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Tigranes
05-01-2019, 11:32 AM
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A team of international scientists from the University of Tuebingen and the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Germany analyzed the DNA of 93 Egyptian mummies dating from approximately 1400 BCE to 400 CE. The evidence from their study reveals a surprising close relation to ancient people of the Near East such as Armenians.


Our analyses reveal that ancient Egyptians shared more ancestry with Near Easterners than present-day Egyptians, who received additional sub-Saharan admixture in more recent times.

We find that ancient Egyptians are most closely related to Neolithic and Bronze Age samples in the Levant, as well as to Neolithic Anatolian and European populations.

Furthermore, the researchers found that over the 1,300-year period that the mummies represented, the population genetics of the ancient Egypt stayed surprising stable, despite foreign invasions.


The genetics of the Abusir el-Meleq community did not undergo any major shifts during the 1,300-year timespan we studied, suggesting that the population remained, genetically, relatively unaffected by foreign conquest and rule.

said Wolfgang Haak, from the Max Planck Institutes.

The sub-Saharan African genetic influx seems to have only started after the Roman period, which coincides with the advent of monotheism in particularly Islam. Hence why modern Egyptians are more genetically shifted towards African people than the ancient Egyptians.

We found the ancient Egyptian samples falling distinct from modern Egyptians, and closer towards Near Eastern and European samples. In contrast, modern Egyptians are shifted towards sub-Saharan African populations.

So it turns out that modern Egyptians share more genetic ancestry with Sub-Saharan Africans than ancient Egyptians did, while the ancient Egyptians show a closer genetic affinity with ancient people from the Near East and the Levant like Armenians.

Map of Egypt depicting the location of the archaeological site Abusir-el Meleq (orange X) and the location of the modern Egyptian samples (orange circles)
https://i1.wp.com/www.peopleofar.com/wp-content/uploads/ncomms15694-f1.jpg?resize=768%2C1006&ssl=1

https://i2.wp.com/www.peopleofar.com/wp-content/uploads/Egyptian-mummy-portraits-from-the-Roman-era..jpg?w=1981&ssl=1
Egyptian mummy portraits, 1st c. B.C.E. – 1st c. C.E.

Tutankhamun’s paternal lineage

Something similar was revealed a few years ago when a controversy erupted surrounding Tutankhamun’s paternal lineage. Egyptian scholars have tested the autosomal and Y-DNA markers of three Pharaohs of the 18th dynasty : Amenhotep III, his son Akhenaten and grandson Tutankhamun. The aim was to determine the cause of death of Tutankhamun, who died at age 19. They however did not release the genetic data to the public themselves. The Discovery Chanel was making a documentary about this research and perhaps by mistake has recorded and aired some of the results from scientists computers.

Keen observers of the genetics company iGENEA quickly pointed out that the video from Discovery Channel shows the Y-STR results, which appear to be R1b. R1b and its variants is rare among modern Egyptians and the Middle East, it is however quite common in Europe and among the Armenians. This revelation however has not been taken seriously by academia, since the results were never officially published by Egyptian scholars.

Looking back however, with the recent study in mind, it is highly possible that the ancient Egyptian Pharaohs had European or Armenian ancestry.

Ancient Europeans and modern Armenians
The Armenian Highlands and Anatolia form a bridge connecting Europe, the Near East and the Caucasus. Anatolia’s location and history have placed it at the centre of several modern human expansions in Eurasia: it has been inhabited continuously since at least the early Upper Palaeolithic, and has the oldest known monumental complex built by huntergatherers in the 10th millennium BCE (Armenian Portasar commonly known as Göbekli Tepe). It is believed to have been the origin and/or route for migrating Near Eastern farmers towards Europe during the Neolithic, and has also played a major role in the dispersal of the Indo-European languages.

A genetics study by Haber et. al (2015) published not so long ago in the Nature’s European Journal of Human Genetics has demonstrated this connection.


We show that Armenians have higher genetic affinity to Neolithic Europeans than other present-day Near Easterners, and that 29% of the Armenian ancestry may originate from an ancestral population best represented by Neolithic Europeans.

Hence today’s Armenians show genetic affinity to both the ancient Europeans and Egyptians. For more details read the following article: Armenians Have A High Genetic Affinity To Ancient Europeans

The Hyksos

https://i0.wp.com/www.peopleofar.com/wp-content/uploads/Hyksos-chariot.jpg?w=800&ssl=1

One explanation for the ancient Egyptian genetic affinity to Near East and Europe could be the Hyksos invasion. The Hyksos (Egyptian heqa khaseshet, meaning: “ruler(s) of the foreign countries”) were a people of unknown origin who settled in the eastern Nile Delta, some time before 1650 BC and ruled over Egypt well into the Hellenistic era. The Hyksos were often described as bowmen and cavalrymen wearing the cloaks of many colors. They were excellent archers and horse riders, who brought chariot warfare to Egypt.

Various theories have been postulated regarding their origin among them the theory of their Hurrian and Indo-European descent. Their way of life certainly resembles that of the Armeno-Aryan peoples of the time. The Hyksos for example practiced horse burials, and their chief deity was a storm God who later became associated with the Egyptian storm and desert god Set. Ancient Armenians worshiped the storm God Teshub/Teisheba. Teshub was later also identified with Aramazd and Hayk.

https://i1.wp.com/www.peopleofar.com/wp-content/uploads/Hyksos-egypt.jpg?w=1376&ssl=1

Furthermore, the Hyksos brought several technical innovations to Egypt, as well as cultural infusions such as new musical instruments and foreign loanwords. The changes introduced include new techniques of bronze working and pottery, new breeds of animals, and new crops. In warfare, they introduced the horse and chariot, the composite bow, improved battle axes, and advanced fortification techniques. All of this strongly suggests Indo-European origin. Robert Drews (1994) in this book “The Coming of the Greeks: Indo-European Conquests in the Aegean and the Near East” describes the Hyksos as follows:

“Where the hyksos chiefs who took over Egypt ca. 1650 B.C. may have gotten their chariots and charioteers is not known, but eastern Anatolia is not an unlikely source. The most direct evidence for the importance of Armenia in the development and manufacture of military chariots in the Late Bronze Age comes from Egyptian tombs. Since Egypt lacked the necessary woods, one assumes that the pharaohs regularly purchased from abroad either finished chariots or-after Egyptian woodworkers had perfected their skills-the requisite chariot wood. A tomb inscription from the reign of Amenhotep II declares that the wood for His Majesty’s chariot was brought from “the country of Naharin” (Mitanni). Since Mitanni itself was not wooded, we may suppose that the material come from the mountains to the north of Mitanni. In the case of the fifteenth century chariot now in Florance’s Museo Archeologico, studies of the wood done more than fifty years ago concluded that the chariot was made in Armenia, or quite precisely in the mountainous area bounded on the east by the Caspian, and on the south and west by a diagonal line extending from the southern shores of the Caspian to the Black Sea coast in the vicinity of Trebizond. If Egypt was to some extent dependent upon eastern Anatolia for its chariotry during the Eighteenth Dynasty, there are grounds for suspecting that when the chariot warfare first came to Egypt, it came from Armenia.”

That there was plenty of contact between ancient Egypt and ancient Armenia is apparent from Egyptian artifacts that were found in ancient Armenian burials. Whether the Hyksos explain the ancient Egyptian affinity to Armenians and other ancient people of Levant, Anatolia and Europe, or that perhaps this genetic influx extends to far older times remains a mystery. It is not unthinkable that the entire ancient Egyptian civilization radiated from the Armenian plateau after the invention and the spread of agriculture that occurred on the Armenian Highlands and its adjacent territories. The fact that within 1,300-year timespan that these DNA samples represent, there is great genetic continuity among the ancient Egyptians, suggests that it might extend to much older periods even predating the Hyksos invasion. Unless scholars find older Egyptian DNA to analyse and compare, this will remain a subject of discussion.

Another caution regarding the generalization of these findings should be considered. All of the 93 mummies that have been investigated were found in the same place at Abusir el-Meleq. It is possible that they represent only the upper class of ancient Egyptian life or a regional subgroup. However, because of the fairly large time period (1300 years) these mummies belonged to, it is also feasible to assume that they indeed represent a large portion of the genetics of ancient Egypt, with its roots possibly in Armenian Highlands.

https://www.peopleofar.com/2017/06/05/ANCIENT-EGYPTIANS-WERE-CLOSER-TO-ARMENIANS-THAN-TO-AFRICANS-A-NEW-GENETICS-STUDY-REVEALS/?fbclid=IwAR0-qLke5z_davB7HmqAyWk62mXXozpUn8JQ2CD9MqM3CDfZSeDipu clQGo

dududud
05-01-2019, 11:33 AM
Pca with the samples?

Egyptian
05-01-2019, 11:35 AM
Lol

Dorian
05-01-2019, 11:41 AM
Also Sea Peoples?

lonewolfcypriot
05-01-2019, 11:43 AM
Doesn't matter because they still wouldn't pass as white

Dorian
05-01-2019, 11:46 AM
Doesn't matter because they still wouldn't pass as white

Original Hamitics probably passed easily as Southern Europeans or as a little more med-skinned/west-asiatic.

lonewolfcypriot
05-01-2019, 11:51 AM
Original Hamitics probably passed easily as Southern Europeans or as a little more med-skinned/west-asiatic.

The fact they are closer to Armenians than to Africans doesn't really tell us much because Modern day Egyptians are already closer to Armenians than they are to Africans.

Dorian
05-01-2019, 11:57 AM
The fact they are closer to Armenians than to Africans doesn't really tell us much because Modern day Egyptians are already closer to Armenians than they are to Africans.

But does closer mean identical? I doubt it ,even recessive&small percentages of other components can make a difference.

lonewolfcypriot
05-01-2019, 12:10 PM
But does closer mean identical? I doubt it ,even recessive&small percentages of other components can make a difference.

true, I'm guessing the ones from Lower Egypt were more Armenian like and the ones from Upper Egypt were more Saudi like.

Mens-Sarda
05-01-2019, 12:30 PM
This makes sense, Ancient Egyptians shared common ancestors with Berbers, these ancestors lived somewhere in the heart of Sahara when it was green and rich of water. When the climate changed about 7000 years ago, this ancient people split moving to different directions, the proto-Berbers moved towards north-west, while the proto-Egyptians moved eastwards, following the course of the Yellow Nile, an extinct branch of the Nile now known as Wadi Howar; the Yellow Nile was 1100Km long, from its sources on the mountains of Ennedi, in Chad, the river joined the Nile somewhere in northern Sudan. Year by year the proto-Egyptians following the drying river finally arrived to the Nile valley where they settled.

Look at these prehistoric cave paintings from the mountains of Tassili n'Ajjer, in the heart of Sahara (southern Algeria).

A group of dancers with painted skin and wearing totemic animal masks, they look very similar to the Egyptian gods with animal heads.
https://www.eyeofthepsychic.com/wp-content/uploads/img2/tassili_05.jpg

https://cdn.kastatic.org/ka-perseus-images/2bf3684a33332b257b46809306a61b5b851984ee.jpg

Location of the Ennedi plateau, source of the Yellow Nile
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/06/article-1394809-0C6E832B00000578-702_470x523.jpg

Wadi Howar (the former Yellow Nile)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/Nile_Map_Sudan.png/326px-Nile_Map_Sudan.png

Petalpusher
05-01-2019, 12:33 PM
The fact they are closer to Armenians than to Africans doesn't really tell us much because Modern day Egyptians are already closer to Armenians than they are to Africans.

The statement is that they shared more with Armenians than modern Egyptians do, it's obvious both are closer in comparison to Africans in the Subsaharian sense (but Egypt is in Africa). Anyway it is old news, the study has been out for 2 years now.

Maintenance
05-01-2019, 12:34 PM
Breaking news from Black Panthers: We built the great wall of china!

Papastratosels26
05-01-2019, 12:38 PM
Interesting

Nassbean
05-01-2019, 12:49 PM
Modern egyptians are in general already close to levantine people it is simply their ssa component who makes them slightly different from their ancestors maybe copts are the best representation of ancient egyptians.

Token
05-01-2019, 12:51 PM
New? This is old as fuck dude.


Modern egyptians are in general already close to levantine people it is simply their ssa component who makes them slightly different from their ancestors maybe copts are the best representation of ancient egyptians.
Yes they are.

Bellbeaking
05-01-2019, 01:42 PM
Modern egyptians are in general already close to levantine people it is simply their ssa component who makes them slightly different from their ancestors maybe copts are the best representation of ancient egyptians.

Copts also have more SSA from east africa than ancient egyptians, but lack much of the West african DNA present in muslim egyptianshttps://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2017/08/26/northeast-africa/


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?214734-Ancient-Egyptians-on-GEDmatch/page4

This thread puts the 3 ancient samples in GEDmatch and k36

Nassbean
05-01-2019, 02:18 PM
Copts also have more SSA from east africa than ancient egyptians, but lack much of the West african DNA present in muslim egyptianshttps://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2017/08/26/northeast-africa/


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?214734-Ancient-Egyptians-on-GEDmatch/page4

This thread puts the 3 ancient samples in GEDmatch and k36

Didn't know that interesting thank you !

XenophobicPrussian
05-01-2019, 02:42 PM
lol at the OP trying to spin this into something Armenian specific, also the one southern Euro saying they looked Med.

Fyi, like others have said, this is old news and these ancient Egyptians clustered with Israel and Saudi Bedouins, and they still had minor SSA, just less than moderns.

Dorian
05-01-2019, 05:13 PM
lol at the OP trying to spin this into something Armenian specific, also the one southern Euro saying they looked Med.

Fyi, like others have said, this is old news and these ancient Egyptians clustered with Israel and Saudi Bedouins, and they still had minor SSA, just less than moderns.

What's your problem bruh?I said If not exactly like Southern Euros then with some kind of different shift(judging by Armenian mentioned I guess west-asiatic)
South Med+Berberid phenotypes are related to us too..Wuz that so weird?

These for example will look off as groups but individually you can see them passing from Med countries to West Asia and Balkans.
https://i.postimg.cc/LXm9H9Fh/SCB.jpg (https://postimg.cc/zLPZ71B1)

Kamal900
05-01-2019, 05:45 PM
PCA genetic charts of the ancient Egyptians were much more closer to Arabians and Egyptian Muslims than to Armenians. Armenians are genetically west asiatic grouping while the ancient Egyptians were Southern Levantines like today's Egyptians with extra SSA admixture. Armenians are not Levantines btw.

Kamal900
05-01-2019, 05:46 PM
Copts also have more SSA from east africa than ancient egyptians, but lack much of the West african DNA present in muslim egyptianshttps://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2017/08/26/northeast-africa/


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?214734-Ancient-Egyptians-on-GEDmatch/page4

This thread puts the 3 ancient samples in GEDmatch and k36

Just like Palestinians, yes. Our SSA admixture is mostly east African in origins.

AphroditeWorshiper
05-01-2019, 06:21 PM
Of course, Basal Eurasians on the past was close to each other, from Morocco to Caucasus/Persia

Pandit
05-02-2019, 01:24 PM
no shit, entire egypt is the home of brown Semitic speaking people since ancient times. their SSA admixture is fairly recent as only after Arabs conquered them they started importing black slaves to work for them.

Mens-Sarda
05-02-2019, 05:00 PM
no shit, entire egypt is the home of brown Semitic speaking people since ancient times. their SSA admixture is fairly recent as only after Arabs conquered them they started importing black slaves to work for them.

Ancient Egyptian language was not Semitic but it was related to Berber and other African languages like Chadic and Kushitic.

Logos
05-02-2019, 08:50 PM
Genetic proximity or not, it would be necessary to prove that the ancient Egyptians had left Egypt to pretend that the current Egyptians are not the main descendants.

El_Abominacion
05-03-2019, 12:17 PM
AYO HOL UP

Ayetooey
05-03-2019, 12:49 PM
:(

sailormoon
05-03-2019, 06:56 PM
Abusir el-Meleq was a cosmopolitan city which had an influx of Greek migrants. At least some inhabitants of Abusir el-Meleq were able to speak Greek. Schuenemann et al. (2017) concede that thier genetic data obtained from a single northern site may not be representative for all of ancient Egypt. It is possible that populations in the south of Egypt had a higher sub-Saharan genetic component, closely related to Nubians.

https://media.springernature.com/m685/nature-assets/ncomms/2017/170530/ncomms15694/images/ncomms15694-f1.jpg


However, we note that all our genetic data were obtained from a single site in Middle Egypt and may not be representative for all of ancient Egypt. It is possible that populations in the south of Egypt were more closely related to those of Nubia and had a higher sub-Saharan genetic component, in which case the argument for an influx of sub-Saharan ancestries after the Roman Period might only be partially valid and have to be nuanced. Throughout Pharaonic history there was intense interaction between Egypt and Nubia, ranging from trade to conquest and colonialism, and there is compelling evidence for ethnic complexity within households with Egyptian men marrying Nubian women and vice versa51,52,53. Clearly, more genetic studies on ancient human remains from southern Egypt and Sudan are needed before apodictic statements can be made.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15694

MS85
05-03-2019, 07:13 PM
Most people forget that the Levant was also part of the Egyptian Kingdom. So, the Levant people were also Egyptian and not only the NorthEast Africans.

Egyptian Queen Nefertiti was of the royal Mitanni (ARYAN) ancestry. Mitanni were proto-proto-Kurds (ARYANS).


https://i.postimg.cc/zvZC15Mz/249.png

Token
05-04-2019, 12:18 AM
Most people forget that the Levant was also part of the Egyptian Kingdom. So, the Levant people were also Egyptian and not only the NorthEast Africans.

Egyptian Queen Nefertiti was of the royal Mitanni (ARYAN) ancestry. Mitanni were proto-proto-Kurds (ARYANS).



WE WUZ KANGZ N'SHIET
Here is a gift for you:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?288215-quot-Proto-Iranians-were-not-Northern-Europeans-quot

Smeagol
05-04-2019, 09:53 AM
Abusir el-Meleq was a cosmopolitan city which had an influx of Greek migrants. At least some inhabitants of Abusir el-Meleq were able to speak Greek. Schuenemann et al. (2017) concede that thier genetic data obtained from a single northern site may not be representative for all of ancient Egypt. It is possible that populations in the south of Egypt had a higher sub-Saharan genetic component, closely related to Nubians

Flawed logic, because the study showed a continuity from the New Kingdom to the Roman period and their autosomal DNA was not similar to Greeks at all. Also, Greek speakers weren't all or even mostly ethnically Greek in the Hellenistic Kingdoms. Sorry, but real Egyptians were never niggers.


Egyptian Queen Nefertiti was of the royal Mitanni (ARYAN) ancestry.

There is zero proof of that.

Nazarene
05-04-2019, 09:57 AM
The Copts are the true heirs to the glories of Egypt

FinalFlash
05-04-2019, 10:08 AM
This isn't saying much @OP. Ancient Egyptians were probably closer to the entire Caucasoid world than they were to Sub Saharan Africans.

Tigranes
05-04-2019, 10:32 AM
Armenians built the pyramids, confirmed.
We wuz pharaohs 'n shiet!

MS85
05-04-2019, 08:15 PM
WE WUZ KANGZ N'SHIET
Here is a gift for you:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?288215-quot-Proto-Iranians-were-not-Northern-Europeans-quotARYAN Mitanni princess Nefertiti who became queen of Egypt. Doesn't look 'white' to me.

https://i.postimg.cc/nLfFNbnv/266px-Nofretete-Neues-Museum.jpg

This is how the REAL Mitanni ARYANS looked like!

MS85
05-04-2019, 08:19 PM
There is zero proof of that.What proof? It is a historic FACT.

An ARYAN princess of Mitanni dynasty married to Akhenaten and became queen of Egypt

Smeagol
05-04-2019, 11:23 PM
What proof? It is a historic FACT.

No it isn't. There's a huge amount of speculation about Akhenaten and Nefertiti, most of it not backed up by any real evidence. One of the theories is that Nefertiti was actually the Mitanni Princess Tadukhipa, but this makes no sense because Tadukhipa was already married to Akhenaten's father Amenhotep III. Even if she did later marry Akhenaten as well, there would have been no reason for a name change. The wife of the later Pharaoh Ay (the most likely candidate for Nefertiti's father) held the title of nurse to Nefertiti which would also make no sense for a teenage Princess coming into Egypt who wouldn't need a nurse. There is no real evidence of a non-Egyptian origin for Nefertiti.

MS85
05-04-2019, 11:31 PM
No it isn't. There's a huge amount of speculation about Akhenaten and Nefertiti, most of it not backed up by any real evidence. One of the theories is that Nefertiti was actually the Mitanni Princess Tadukhipa, but this makes no sense because Tadukhipa was already married to Akhenaten's father Amenhotep III. Even if she did later marry Akhenaten as well, there would have been no reason for a name change. The wife of the later Pharaoh Ay (the most likely candidate for Nefertiti's father) held the title of nurse to Nefertiti which would also make no sense for a teenage Princess coming into Egypt who wouldn't need a nurse. There is no real evidence of a non-Egyptian origin for Nefertiti.What are you talking about?
Nefertiti was a daughter of the ARYAN Mitanni (proto-Kurdish) King Tushratta. He made a pact with the Egyptians to bring peace between 2 kingdoms.

It was Nefertiti who brought ARYAN Mithraism (ARYAN Kurdish religion) to Egypt. MithRA was an ARYAN sun deity, Egytians shortened the word 'MithRA' and their SUN god called her/him simply 'RA'.


https://i.postimg.cc/gjLjwr61/egyptian-1823488-960-720.jpg

dperucca
05-04-2019, 11:34 PM
The Copts are the true heirs to the glories of Egypt

How much longer will they be around though? They are targeted so frequently.. it's horrible. I have an atheist friend in Egypt who is frequently treated like garbage as well.

Smeagol
05-04-2019, 11:37 PM
What are you talking about?
Nefertiti was a daughter of the ARYAN Mitanni (proto-Kurdish) King Tushratta. He made a pact with the Egyptians to bring peace between 2 kingdoms.

It was Nefertiti who brought ARYAN Mithraism (ARYAN Kurdish religion) to Egypt. MithRA was an ARYAN sun deity, Egytians shortened the word 'MithRA' and their SUN god called her/him simply 'RA'.

I just addressed this. Tadukhipa was the daughter of Tushratta who he sent to Amenhotep III. There is no evidence that she and Nefertiti were the same person. Ra was a god worshipped by the Egyptians since the Old Kingdom. Nothing to do with Mitanni.

MS85
05-05-2019, 12:01 AM
I just addressed this. Tadukhipa was the daughter of Tushratta who he sent to Amenhotep III. There is no evidence that she and Nefertiti were the same person. Ra was a god worshipped by the Egyptians since the Old Kingdom. Nothing to do with Mitanni.Honestly I do believe that you are wrong. But let agree to disagree.

ARYAN Nefertiti made RA (Kurdish MithRA) the most important and maybe even the ONLY deity in Egypt


I know it is a stupid source, but I'm lazy right now. From wiki, one of the 'new theories':


New theories[edit]
Discovered in 2012, a Regnal Year 16, month 3 of Akhet, day 15 inscription, dated explicitly to Akhenaten's reign, mentions the presence of the "Great Royal Wife, His Beloved, Mistress of the Two Lands, Neferneferuaten Nefertiti".[25][26] The barely legible five line text "mentions a building project in Amarna" (Egypt's political capital under Akhenaten).[27][28] The inscription was found in a limestone quarry at Dayr Abū Ḥinnis, just north of Dayr al-Barshā, north of Amarna.[29] The inscription has now been published in a 2014 journal article by Athena Van der Perre who states that the five-line building inscription was found in a limestone quarry at Dayr Abū Ḥinnis.[30] Van der Perre notes that Dayr Abū Ḥinnis is located "on the eastern side of the Nile, about ten kilometers north of Amarna" and records that the building work inscription refers equally to both the ruling king Akhenaten and his great wife Nefertiti under the authority of the king's scribe Penthu.[31] Penthu was presumably the owner of Amarna Tomb 5—where one of his titles given was "first servant of the Aten in the Mansion of Aten in Akhetaten"; due to the rarity of his name and his position as chief priest within the Aten priesthood, it cannot be coincidental—as van der Perre writes—that the same Penthu would have been placed in charge of quarrying stone for the Aten temple.[32] However, as Van der Perre stresses:[33]
The importance of the inscription from Dayr Abū Ḥinnis lies in the first part of the text. This inscription offers incontrovertible evidence that both Akhenaten and Nefertiti were still alive in the 16th year of his (i.e. Akhenaten's) reign and, more importantly, that they were still holding the same positions as at the start of their reign. This makes it necessary to rethink the final years of the Amarna Period.
This means that Nefertiti was alive in the second to last year of Akhenaten's reign, (this pharaoh's final year was his Year 17) and demonstrates that Akhenaten still ruled alone, with his wife by his side. Therefore, the rule of the female Amarna pharaoh known as Neferneferuaten must be placed between the death of Akhenaten and the accession of Tutankhamun. This female pharaoh used the epithet 'Effective for her husband' in one of her cartouches,[34] which means she was either Nefertiti or her daughter Meritaten (who was married to king Smenkhkare).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nefertiti

Nazarene
05-05-2019, 12:29 AM
How much longer will they be around though? They are targeted so frequently.. it's horrible. I have an atheist friend in Egypt who is frequently treated like garbage as well.

I have no idea, but I don't see their persecution stopping anytime soon. Hopefully something changes, but Egyptian society seems pretty set on hating non-Muslims.

MS85
05-05-2019, 01:40 AM
Aryan Mitanni princes Nefertiti looks very Kurdish to me.

this is Armenian propaganda video. Instead of Armenian, Nefertiti was Mitanni royal elite proto-Iranic and therefore proto-Kurdic



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFZGxkFwrVE

billErobreren
05-05-2019, 01:42 AM
But we wuz KANGZ! On a serious note, this isn't really news. Even Berbers would have more in common with them than Zulus

Profileid
05-05-2019, 09:46 PM
look how eager everyone is to steal the legacy of ancient Egypt

Tigranes
05-05-2019, 09:54 PM
Aryan Mitanni princes Nefertiti looks very Kurdish to me.

this is Armenian propaganda video. Instead of Armenian, Nefertiti was Mitanni royal elite proto-Iranic and therefore proto-Kurdic


:rotfl: You're pathetic!
What's next?
mUh! Kingdom of Commagene wAs kUrdish
Urartu aNciEnT kUrdIsh kInGdOM

Pansarkamrat
05-05-2019, 09:57 PM
It is not weird because Armenians are also middleeastern as Egyptians.

Kamal900
05-05-2019, 10:02 PM
look how eager everyone is to steal the legacy of ancient Egypt

Honestly, I feel very sorry for the Egyptians, especially the Copts.

Kamal900
05-05-2019, 10:03 PM
It is not weird because Armenians are also middleeastern as Egyptians.

Not really. Armenians are west asiatic genetically while Egyptians, both ancient and modern, are Southern Levantines. There is a difference between the two worlds.

Profileid
05-05-2019, 10:04 PM
Honestly, I feel very sorry for the Egyptians, especially the Copts.

idk if copts in real life have a mentality where they view themselves as separate from the rest of egyptians. its a shame their society is less free today than 40 years ago

Tigranes
05-05-2019, 10:05 PM
It is not weird because Armenians are also middleeastern as Egyptians.

Define "Middle Eastern".

Pansarkamrat
05-05-2019, 10:06 PM
Define "Middle Eastern".

Brown.

MS85
05-05-2019, 10:07 PM
:rotfl: You're pathetic!
What's next?
mUh! Kingdom of Commagene wAs kUrdish
Urartu aNciEnT kUrdIsh kInGdOMAre tou a retard with your smiley?

Everywhere in NorthWest Asian where ARYAN was spoken it is Kurdish.

Tigranes
05-05-2019, 10:08 PM
Brown.

Define "White" then...

Tigranes
05-05-2019, 10:10 PM
Are tou a retard with your smiley?

Everywhere in NorthWest Asian where ARYAN was spoken it is Kurdish.

Kurds are basically Outsiders, just like Turks.

Pansarkamrat
05-05-2019, 10:11 PM
Define "White" then...

Mate i am just joking around.

Tigranes
05-05-2019, 10:12 PM
Mate i am just joking around.

Whatever you say mate.:)

MS85
05-05-2019, 10:13 PM
Not really. Armenians are west asiatic genetically while Egyptians, both ancient and modern, are Southern Levantines. There is a difference between the two worlds.Egyptians were not West Asian.

Egypt was a big kingdom and it was very diverse. People in African part of Egypt were mostly African and in the Levant part of Egypt people were mostly Levantise/Semitic.


And like all royals all over the world , also the Egyptian Royals were mixed. Egyptians Royals had all kind of blood in them.


Even today most royals are heavily mixed people.

MS85
05-05-2019, 10:14 PM
Kurds are basically Outsiders, just like Turks.
outsiders of what?

Tigranes
05-05-2019, 10:14 PM
Everywhere in NorthWest Asian where ARYAN was spoken it is Kurdish.

https://pics.me.me/im-kevin-whats-your-name-muhammad-but-am-not-arab-8221941.png

Tigranes
05-05-2019, 10:16 PM
outsiders of what?

Anatolia, Armenian Highlands...
You are not the native to these lands, Intruders would be the right term.

MS85
05-05-2019, 10:17 PM
Hey Armenian, can you tell where the Lom Gypsies are?

I'm looking for them. I know they were and lived in Armenia, but somehow they disappeared. What did you do to them? I hope you didn't eat them..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lom_people

MS85
05-05-2019, 10:18 PM
Anatolia, Armenian Highlands...
You are not the native to these lands.Anatolia is big. Define Anatolia

Tigranes
05-05-2019, 10:20 PM
Anatolia is big. Define Anatolia

It doesn't matter how big it is, that still won't make you natives.

Anatolia
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/AnatolieLimits.jpg

MS85
05-05-2019, 10:24 PM
It doesn't matter how big it is, that still won't make you natives.

Anatolia
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/AnatolieLimits.jpgKurds are absolutely NOT native to an area within that orange line.

We are native to our beloved ARYAN Zagros Mountains:

https://i.postimg.cc/cHsNMZBJ/Naamloos.png

MS85
05-05-2019, 10:26 PM
Btw, Lachin (Red Kuridstan) in Caucasus is also ours


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistansky_Uyezd

Tigranes
05-05-2019, 10:27 PM
Kurds are absolutely NOT native to an area within that orange line.

We are native to our beloved ARYAN Zagros Mountains:


More like:
http://www.armenophile.com/img/cImg/800_galImg_armenianplateauandarmenianhighlandscopy .jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Map_of_Assyria.png

Tigranes
05-05-2019, 10:30 PM
Btw, Lachin (Red Kuridstan) in Caucasus is also ours


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistansky_Uyezd

There's no such place as "Kurdistan", it's only fictional term.

MS85
05-05-2019, 10:33 PM
More like:
http://www.armenophile.com/img/cImg/800_galImg_armenianplateauandarmenianhighlandscopy .jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Map_of_Assyria.pngYeah right, keep dreaming.

Kurdistan = where ARYAN was spoken. Mitanni was an Aryan Kingdom.

They called thei capital city Washukanni.

Washukanni is a Kurdish word with a meaning and it is located in Rojava city of Serekanie

MS85
05-05-2019, 10:35 PM
There's no such place as "Kurdistan", it's only fictional term.Kurdistan is where the ARYAN language is spoken for thousands of years. That is Kurdistan!


There are no Lom Gypsies in Armenia, because Armenians assimilated them.


Armenians are like Turks, a product of Gypsy people. Very dirty people



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lom_people

MS85
05-05-2019, 10:39 PM
Armenians are like Kardashian. They mix with everybody. It is in their genes to mix everybody, with Gypsies, Africans, Turks, the list goes on


Disgusting Gypsy people

FinalFlash
05-05-2019, 10:41 PM
Armenians are like Kardashian. They mix with everybody. It is in their genes to mix with Gypsies, Africans, Turks, the list goes on


Disgusting Gypsy people

Projecting much?

MS85
05-05-2019, 10:44 PM
Projecting much?No, just telling the truth. It is a reality.

There are a lot Gypsies in Middle East and native people don't assimilate them. There are a lot Gypsies in Caucasus (Georgia), Iran, Kurdistan etc.

And, there was a time when there lived a lot Gypsies in Armenia. But there are no Gypsies left in Armenia. Where are they? Why there are Gypsies in other countries, but not in Armenian? We know for sure that Gypsies lived in Armenia!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lom_people


Armenians are such a dirty people that they even assimilated those poor Lom Gypsies.


Turks, Armenians, same mixed sh!t..


Armenians are a product of Gypsies, period. This is a FACT! Armenians are the people of Kardashian, this is all we need to know!

Tigranes
05-05-2019, 10:50 PM
https://i.ibb.co/vZtCkqz/x8actc9.jpg

MS85
05-05-2019, 10:51 PM
Listen, I can be very racist. If somebody wants to play racist with me I can strike back and be racist to ANYBODY.

Just live us poor Kurds alone!

FinalFlash
05-05-2019, 10:51 PM
No, just telling the truth. It is a reality.

There are a lot Gypsies in Middle East and native people don't assimilate them. There are a lot Gypsies in Caucasus (Georgia), Iran, Kurdistan etc.

And, there was a time when there lived a lot Gypsies in Armenia. But there are no Gypsies left in Armenia. Where are they? Why there are Gypsies in other countries, but not in Armenian? We know for sure that Gypsies lived in Armenia!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lom_people


Armenians are such a dirty people that they even assimilated those poor Lom Gypsies.


Turks, Armenians, same mixed sh!t..


Armenians are a product of Gypsies, period. This is a FACT!


They are the people of Kardashian, this is all we need to know!

That's interesting. Do you have any official statistics of these Lom people in Armenia?

Btw, according to genetics studies, Kurds and Iranians have the most South Asian-like affinities in West Asia while among Armenians and Georgians this components ranges from noise-level to downright nonexistent. So it's interesting you make these claims that genetics completely disproves.

PS. Armenia is a country while Kurdistan doesn't exist. You might want to think twice about calling others gypsies.

MS85
05-05-2019, 10:53 PM
Mitanni was an ARYAN kingdom. They were ARYAN people and believed in the ARYAN GODS. The leaders of Mitanni had ARYAN (Kurdish) name. Their capital has a (ARYAN) Kurdish meaning. Nothing to do with the Armenians at all. So f*ck off!

Tigranes
05-05-2019, 10:56 PM
Listen, I can be very racist. If somebody wants to play racist with me I can strike back and be racist to ANYBODY.

Just live us poor Kurds alone!


MS85
Politics: PKK

MS85
05-05-2019, 11:00 PM
That's interesting. Do you have any official statistics of these Lom people in Armenia?

Btw, according to genetics studies, Kurds and Iranians have the most South Asian-like affinities in West Asia while among Armenians and Georgians this components ranges from noise-level to downright nonexistent. So it's interesting you make these claims that genetics completely disproves.

PS. Armenia is a country while Kurdistan doesn't exist. You might want to think twice about calling others gypsies.Maybe only 50 Gypsies left in Armenia, while there was a HUGE population of Gypsies in Armenia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lom_people


'Neolithic Iranian' auDNA in Kurds has nothing to do with South Asia. It is native to Kurdistan for at least 10000 years.

High 'Neolithic Iranian' auDNA in Kurds makes us Aryan, while Armenians are still a product of Gypsies.

Once again, Kurdistan is a place where native language of that area is ARYAN.



How old are you? Do you really think Kurdistan doesn't exist, lol. Of course there is Kurdistan, but it is not YET recognised. There is Kurdistan, it is not recognised yet, but we are working on it.


When I look at the Turks I see no difference between the Armenians and Turks, same mentality, same looks, same Gypsy people, mix with anybody and try to assimilate everybody

MS85
05-05-2019, 11:06 PM
If you want to talk about politics, lets talk about politics. Like it is said. I follow and support the politics of the pro-Great Kurdistan Kurdish party PKK! Nothing wrong with it

Tigranes
05-05-2019, 11:07 PM
If you ant to talk about politics, lets talk about politics. Like it is said. I follow and support the politics of the pro-Great Kurdistan Kurdish party PKK! Nothing wrong with it

I doubt you even know Kurdish...

FinalFlash
05-05-2019, 11:12 PM
Maybe only 50 Gypsies left in Armenia, while there was a HUGE population of Gypsies in Armenia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lom_people


'Neolithic Iranian' auDNA in Kurds has nothing to do with South Asia. It is native to Kurdistan for at least 10000 years.

High 'Neolithic Iranian' auDNA in Kurds makes us Aryan, while Armenians are still a product of Gypsies.

Once again, Kurdistan is a place where native language of that area is ARYAN.



How old are you? Do you really think Kurdistan doesn't exist, lol. Of course there is Kurdistan, but it is not YET recognised. There is Kurdistan, it is not recognised yet, but we are working on it.


When I look at the Turks I see no difference between the Armenians and Turks, same mentality, same looks, same Gypsy people, mix with anybody and try to assimilate everybody

Proof of Lom gypsy statistics in Armenia? Based off what I have studied, South Asian admixture in Armenia is virtually non existent so any Lom gyspies that may or may not have assimilated surely didn't put any dent in the genepool.

The only ethnic group in Armenia who have some SA admixture are Yezdi people who are essentially non-muslim Kurds. Very nomadic and backwards people who marry their kids off at 12-14 years old. Must be the "Aryan" Kurdish connection.

MS85
05-05-2019, 11:14 PM
I doubt you even know Kurdish...Dude, I try to ignore people like you, Armenians, Assyrians, Turks.

I don't try and don't want to interfere in their pitiful topics about looks. I absolutely don't care about how insecure people are. I don't care about insecurity of the Turks and their identity crises. I don't want to have anything to do with it


You are the one who called me out!


Just live me alone and I will leave you and your people alone!

MS85
05-05-2019, 11:21 PM
Proof of Lom gypsy statistics in Armenia? Based off what I have studied, South Asian admixture in Armenia is virtually non existent so any Lom gyspies that may or may not have assimilated surely didn't put any dent in the genepool.

The only ethnic group in Armenia who have some SA admixture are Yezdi people who are essentially non-muslim Kurds. Very nomadic and backwards people who marry their kids off at 12-14 years old. Must be the "Aryan" Kurdish connection.Maybe we marry our kid off at the age 12, but we stay within our race. And we keep our race PURE. While Armenians mix with everything and everybody.

There are no statiscs about Gypsies in Armenia, because all Gypsies have been ASSIMILATED. Gypsies are everywhere but not in Armenia, WHY?


poor Armenian Gypsy children who are now assimilated by the Armenians:


https://i.postimg.cc/g0vqvbgr/photo-227158-cdc77d46a.jpg[

It is from you own ARMENIAN site: http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/details/227158/


Just look and enjoy the music:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6HYTloMnvI

happycow
05-05-2019, 11:43 PM
:confused:

Arsen_
05-05-2019, 11:57 PM
Armenians are like Kardashian. They mix with everybody. It is in their genes to mix everybody, with Gypsies, Africans, Turks, the list goes on
Disgusting Gypsy people

You filthy dog and genetical trash cleaner, your dirty breed cleaned all shit in Armenia doing the most dirtiest job that even Gypsies would not do! How you dare insult Armenians, you epitome of dirtiness?! Even shit of Armenians is more precious than all your dirty breed!