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Crimson Winds
05-05-2019, 12:12 PM
I realized there is not much Circassian results or kits posted here. Would appreciate any post having any Circassian(Kabardin,Adygei) results or kits.

Kit Number:Z064278
Eugenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 45.51
2 Baltic 13.95
3 East_Med 13.01
4 West_Med 9.80
5 Siberian 6.42
6 North_Atlantic 4.10
7 South_Asian 2.74
8 Red_Sea 2.31
9 East_Asian 1.35


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kabardin @ 3.818411
2 Balkar @ 5.147593
3 North_Ossetian @ 5.932704
4 Adygei @ 6.758272
5 Kumyk @ 8.862464
6 Ossetian @ 8.912199
7 Chechen @ 9.600834
8 Lezgin @ 12.414721
9 Tabassaran @ 14.489843
10 Georgian @ 15.243761
11 Abhkasian @ 17.189455
12 Nogay @ 19.696238
13 Turkmen @ 21.313032
14 Azeri @ 22.209766
15 Kurdish @ 22.348747
16 Tadjik @ 22.761192
17 Afghan_Tadjik @ 23.350121
18 Iranian @ 24.070314
19 Turkish @ 24.463854
20 Afghan_Pashtun @ 26.620129

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kabardin +50% Kabardin @ 3.818411


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kabardin +25% Kabardin +25% Kabardin @ 3.818411

oszkar07
05-05-2019, 12:41 PM
nice results.

did you check your match with him on gedmatch.

i set 1cm for minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM

i got =

Largest segment = 5.5 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 62.3 cM (1.739 Pct)

26 shared segments found for this comparison.

283024 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.621 Pct SNPs are full identical

Crimson Winds
05-05-2019, 01:25 PM
nice results.

did you check your match with him on gedmatch.

i set 1cm for minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM

i got =

Largest segment = 5.5 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 62.3 cM (1.739 Pct)

26 shared segments found for this comparison.

283024 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.621 Pct SNPs are full identical

I'll get my test in summer.

21993
05-05-2019, 01:29 PM
It is interesting that s/he is closer to both Kurdish and Iranian than s/he is to Turkish.

Crimson Winds
05-06-2019, 10:15 PM
It is interesting that s/he is closer to both Kurdish and Iranian than s/he is to Turkish.

CHG

Crimson Winds
06-10-2019, 04:32 PM
Just found another result. Probably unmixed Adygei from Turkey though he seems little mixed in Caucasus.

Eugenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 46.23
2 East_Med 18.71
3 West_Med 8.80
4 Baltic 8.77
5 North_Atlantic 7.25
6 Red_Sea 2.88
7 Siberian 2.86
8 South_Asian 1.75


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Adygei @ 4.460350
2 Ossetian @ 6.474514
3 Balkar @ 6.489812
4 North_Ossetian @ 6.719551
5 Kumyk @ 6.860340
6 Kabardin @ 8.051940
7 Georgian @ 8.772426
8 Chechen @ 10.395138
9 Abhkasian @ 11.741061
10 Lezgin @ 11.744451
11 Tabassaran @ 14.607310
12 Kurdish @ 16.008783
13 Azeri @ 16.985617
14 Iranian @ 18.879517
15 Turkish @ 19.745230
16 Turkmen @ 20.412905
17 Armenian @ 20.751015
18 Georgian_Jewish @ 23.149313
19 Nogay @ 23.595058
20 Tadjik @ 25.364017

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Georgian +50% Kumyk @ 2.975570


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Georgian +25% Kabardin +25% Kumyk @ 2.807931


Dodecad K12

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 50.32
2 Gedrosia 17.84
3 North_European 15.40
4 Atlantic_Med 6.58
5 Southwest_Asian 5.35
6 Siberian 3.12
7 East_Asian 1.06


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 7.522555
2 Adygei_HGDP @ 10.635115
3 Turks_Behar @ 10.635123
4 Balkars_Yunusbayev @ 11.277376
5 North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev @ 11.633365
6 Turkish_Dodecad @ 11.904294
7 Chechens_Yunusbayev @ 12.133442
8 Armenians_Behar @ 15.962669
9 Lezgins_Behar @ 15.976893
10 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 16.080370
11 Armenian_Dodecad @ 16.889656
12 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 18.311874
13 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 18.350143
14 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 18.360716
15 Iranian_Dodecad @ 19.328606
16 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 19.692532
17 Kurd_Dodecad @ 19.753103
18 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 20.435682
19 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 20.967865
20 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev @ 22.001486

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Chechens_Yunusbayev +50% Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.969792

PuntDNAL K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 42.73
2 SW_Europe 22.55
3 NE_Europe 14.26
4 SW_Asia 11.31
5 Siberia 3.58
6 South_Asia 1.68
7 Americas 1.49


Finished reading population data. 191 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ossetian @ 3.670945
2 Dagestan_Azeri @ 4.721376
3 Adygei @ 6.144823
4 Abkhasian @ 6.402831
5 Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 6.787522
6 Balkar @ 8.163871
7 Kurdish @ 9.388504
8 Kumyk @ 9.990169
9 Turkish_Kayseri @ 10.529271
10 Turkish @ 11.094548
11 Turkish_Aydin @ 11.462667
12 Iranian @ 11.832153
13 Chechen @ 12.499382
14 Armenian @ 14.999988
15 Assyrian @ 16.351219
16 Turkish_Trabzon @ 16.441837
17 Lebanese_Druze @ 19.103701
18 Lebanese_Muslim @ 19.365580
19 Syrian @ 19.405388
20 Nogay @ 20.112133

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Adygei +50% Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 2.816076


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Azerbaijan_Azeri +25% Chechen +25% Ossetian @ 2.587769

Gangrel
06-10-2019, 04:52 PM
It is interesting that s/he is closer to both Kurdish and Iranian than s/he is to Turkish.

Kurds are the bridge between Persians and Caucasians

Rgvgjhvv
06-10-2019, 04:57 PM
Most Greeks are genetically closer to ethnic Turks than Circassians are. Who woulda thought?

Crimson Winds
06-10-2019, 05:01 PM
Most Greeks are genetically closer to ethnic Turks than Circassians are. Who woulda thought?

In almost every calculator doesn't have Turkish_Aydin reference.

Rgvgjhvv
06-10-2019, 05:06 PM
In almost every calculator doesn't have Turkish_Aydin reference.

I was judging it based off of the distance to Turkish in Eurogenes K13 you posted. I'm just basing it off of memory. Maybe it's different in other calculators, no idea.

Anxiety
06-10-2019, 05:09 PM
My puntDNAL K13

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 35.82
2 SW_Europe 24.97
3 NE_Europe 14.06
4 SW_Asia 13.41
5 Siberia 5.17
6 NE_Asia 2.91
7 South_Asia 2.23
8 SE_Asia 1.1
9 Americas 0.3
10 Oceania 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish_Aydin 3.52
2 Turkish 4.29
3 Turkish_Kayseri 5.3
4 Balkar 7.15
5 Azerbaijan_Azeri 7.59
6 Ossetian 8.63
7 Kumyk 9.08
8 Dagestan_Azeri 10.03
9 Adygei 10.63
10 Abkhasian 11.46

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.7% Turkish_Aydin + 22.3% Abkhasian @ 1.28
2 69.6% Turkish + 30.4% Kumyk @ 1.84
3 71.1% Turkish_Aydin + 28.9% Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 1.86
4 84.8% Turkish_Aydin + 15.2% Turkish_Trabzon @ 1.87
5 64.3% Turkish_Kayseri + 35.7% Kumyk @ 1.94

Crimson Winds
06-10-2019, 05:09 PM
I was judging it based off of the distance to Turkish in Eurogenes K13 you posted. I'm just basing it off of memory. Maybe it's different in other calculators, no idea.

It absurdly varies in other calculators. I cannot really understand why?

Rgvgjhvv
06-10-2019, 05:16 PM
It absurdly varies in other calculators. I cannot really understand why?

I agree, it makes no sense.

Fiko0
06-10-2019, 07:11 PM
My kit trough a calculator from Turkish DNA Project:

Single Population Approximation List:
1. Turk_Ahiska @ 7,048738
2. Turk_Anatolia_East @ 7,657243
3. Circassian @ 8,511891
4. Turk_Trabzon @ 8,601861
5. Greek_Pontus @ 8,854158
6. Ossetian @ 9,092579
7. Balkar @ 9,241975
8. Alan_DA162 @ 9,386964
9. Armenian_West @ 10,019191
10. Karachay @ 10,315555
11. Abkhazian @ 10,758081
12. Laz @ 10,941403
13. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 11,069638
14. Turk_Anatolia_Central_East @ 11,28101
15. Georgian_Adjara @ 11,402303
16. Turk_Anatolia_Southeast @ 11,442462
17. Zaza @ 11,476776
18. Azerbaijani @ 11,595231
19. Greek_Cappadocia @ 11,680423
20. Alan_average @ 11,93452
21. Kura_Araxes_Bronze_Age @ 11,97568
22. Turk_Anatolia_Central_Black_Sea @ 12,19136
23. Azov_Greek @ 12,488402
24. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 12,488505
25. Talysh_Azerbaijan @ 12,560357
26. Georgian_Mingrelian @ 12,635754
27. Georgian_Gurian @ 12,703842
28. Turk_Anatolia_Central_West @ 12,821925
29. Turk_Anatolia_South @ 12,873655
30. Turkmen_Iraq @ 12,970504 2-

Population Approximation List: 1. 13% Belgian + 87% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,623525 2. 13% Frisian + 87% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,67643 3. 12% English_Kent_GBR + 88% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,693367 4. 13% German_South + 87% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,723908 5. 12% British + 88% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,77893 6. 13% English + 87% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,799874 7. 81% Turk_Ahiska + 19% Romanian_South_South @ 1,818008 8. 13% English_Cornwall_GBR + 87% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,83528 9. 12% Norwegian_West + 88% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,845692 10. 18% Macedonian + 82% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,855374 11. 84% Turk_Ahiska + 16% Romanian_North_West @ 1,861486 12. 13% Irish + 87% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,872777 13. 88% Turk_Ahiska + 12% Welsh @ 1,874795 14. 13% Dutch + 87% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,884204 15. 18% Romanian_South + 82% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,885035 16. 12% Scythian_Ukraine_scy010 + 88% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,910847 17. 19% Albanian_North + 81% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,922025 18. 19% Albanian_Kosovo + 81% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,933991 19. 16% Italian_North + 84% Turk_Ahiska @ 1,94521 20. 83% Turk_Ahiska + 17% Romanian_South_East @ 1,946283

Rgvgjhvv
06-10-2019, 07:16 PM
My kit trough a calculator from Turkish DNA Project:

Single Population Approximation List:
1. Turk_Ahiska @ 7,048738
2. Turk_Anatolia_East @ 7,657243
3. Circassian @ 8,511891
4. Turk_Trabzon @ 8,601861
5. Greek_Pontus @ 8,854158
6. Ossetian @ 9,092579
7. Balkar @ 9,241975
8. Alan_DA162 @ 9,386964
9. Armenian_West @ 10,019191
10. Karachay @ 10,315555
11. Abkhazian @ 10,758081
12. Laz @ 10,941403
13. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 11,069638
14. Turk_Anatolia_Central_East @ 11,28101
15. Georgian_Adjara @ 11,402303
16. Turk_Anatolia_Southeast @ 11,442462
17. Zaza @ 11,476776
18. Azerbaijani @ 11,595231
19. Greek_Cappadocia @ 11,680423
20. Alan_average @ 11,93452
21. Kura_Araxes_Bronze_Age @ 11,97568
22. Turk_Anatolia_Central_Black_Sea @ 12,19136
23. Azov_Greek @ 12,488402
24. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 12,488505
25. Talysh_Azerbaijan @ 12,560357
26. Georgian_Mingrelian @ 12,635754
27. Georgian_Gurian @ 12,703842
28. Turk_Anatolia_Central_West @ 12,821925
29. Turk_Anatolia_South @ 12,873655
30. Turkmen_Iraq @ 12,970504 2-

Link calculator?

Anxiety
06-10-2019, 07:18 PM
My kit trough a calculator from Turkish DNA Project:

Ik wil hem ook graag proberen :)

Fiko0
06-10-2019, 07:30 PM
Ik wil hem ook graag proberen :)

Je kunt hier lid worden en even een administrator contacteren: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/oghuz-turks/about

Ik had het via hier gedaan: https://turkishdna.blogspot.com/p/hakkmzda.html

Fiko0
06-10-2019, 07:32 PM
Link calculator?

I dont really know. They did it for me..

Its a more pinpoint calculator than most general calculators out there.
People from north-east Turkey get better results with this one.