Do you consider Galicians and other northern spaniards to be lighter than other spaniards?

[MagBaX]

Considering northern Spain didn't suffer the islamic invasions as much as the rest of Spain, and that some germanic tribes actually invaded them.

[dududud]

Don't know, but brown eyes come from Early European Farmer (even some indo-europeans), aka non semitic thing.

[alnortedelsur]

No significant differences. Spain has experimented significant population movements from south to north and vice versa, precisely due to the Muslim rule and the Reconquista that came after. All Spaniards have significant Celtic input that comes from thousands of years back. The supposed mixture of southern Spaniards with of Arabs and North Africans (who didn't rule as long as 800 years in most of Spain) is not more than a stupid romantic myth that has been debunked by modern genetics.

[FountainOfSalmacis]

If there’s a group that is different than the rest it should be the Basques.

[Borealis]

I thought Galicia was in Poland and Ukraine

[Duffmannn]

Andalousians and galicians are genetically identicals.

There's no arab imput in Spain at all.

There are more blondes and light eyed people in northern Spain because it's nearer to the epicentrum of both mutations, the Baltic Sea.

But that's normal. Also happens un south France versus northern France, in south Germany versus Northern Germany, or in southern Italy versus northern Italy.

[El_Abominacion]

Not particularly

[The One]

Northern Spain is lighter but by how much is hard to quantify.

[Regnera]

Lighter because latitude.

[Ruggery]

Andalousians and galicians are genetically identicals.

There's no arab imput in Spain at all.

There are more blondes and light eyed people in northern Spain because it's nearer to the epicentrum of both mutations, the Baltic Sea.

But that's normal. Also happens un south France versus northern France, in south Germany versus Northern Germany, or in southern Italy versus northern Italy.

And there are more redheads because it is closer to Ireland xD

[Zuh]

No significant differences. Spain has experimented significant population movements from south to north and vice versa, precisely due to the Muslim rule and the Reconquista that came after. All Spaniards have significant Celtic input that comes from thousands of years back. The supposed mixture of southern Spaniards with of Arabs and North Africans (who didn't rule as long as 800 years in most of Spain) is not more than a stupid romantic myth that has been debunked by modern genetics.

I don't think it is a stupid romantic myth either. :rolleyes:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?288927-Classify-this-guy-and-placed-him

[Duffmannn]

And there are more redheads because it is closer to Ireland xD

Yes, too.

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/red_hair_map_europe.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ymbBd.png

There´s another center of redhair in Udmurtia, Russia.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

No, they can be lighter by a small margin. But iberians are so homogeneous to give importance to those mininum differeces.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Galician people.


https://youtu.be/p4SBoGY-NtQ

[Gallop]

As Spanish and on the ground at all there are not differences among Spaniards on that question.

Parlamentarios gallegos
https://www.diariodeferrol.com/media/diariodeferrol/images/2018/06/27/2018062700153782432.jpg

Parlamentarios andaluces
http://images.teinteresa.es/andalucia/cordoba/parlamentarios-andaluces-creacion-empleo-prioridad_TINIMA20150407_0410_3.jpg

Parlamentarios vascos
https://e00-elmundo.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2016/10/17/14767004137797.jpg

Parlamentarios valencianos
https://ep00.epimg.net/ccaa/imagenes/2015/06/03/valencia/1433331966_655998_1433332110_noticia_normal.jpg

Spain is very homogeneous. Atypical people are in all regions but there is a trend for example with people atypical northern Spain for example it is as if it had all the sense of the world and made sense for the whole area a different origin to the rest of Spain and yet when that same atypical person of Germanic aspect is of Murcia, Andalusia keeps silent. That is the nonsense that there is more or less to try to create differences that do not exist among Spaniards.

[itilvolga]

Yes but there is not a significant difference as much as a different nation.

[Gallop]

https://img.europapress.es/fotoweb/fotonoticia_20170704151211_640.jpg
Group of students from all over Spain

The University of Seville (US) has welcomed 120 baccalaureate and ESO students from all over Spain
https://www.europapress.es/andalucia/sevilla-00357/noticia-mas-centenar-alumnos-bachillerato-eso-disfrutan-us-campus-cientifico-verano-20170704151211.html

https://est.zetaestaticos.com/cordoba/img/noticias/0/703/703815_1.jpg
Nursing students from all over Spain

https://www.diariocordoba.com/noticias/educacion/alumnos-enfermeria-toda-espana-reunen-uco_703815.html

https://www.um.es/image/journal/article?img_id=12702171&t=1554805470015
The Geography Olympics bring together students from all over Spain at the University of Murcia

https://www.um.es/web/sala-prensa/-/las-olimpiadas-de-geografia-reunen-en-la-universidad-de-murcia-a-estudiantes-de-toda-espana

http://www.cantabriadirecta.es/santander-reune-a-270-estudiantes-de-medicina-de-toda-espana/
Santander brings together 270 medical students from all over Spain

http://www.cantabriadirecta.es/santander-reune-a-270-estudiantes-de-medicina-de-toda-espana/

http://www.aepde.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/La-Nucia-Aud-Congreso-AEPD-final-1b-2019-1024x768.jpg
The LVI National Congress of the Sports Press of the Spanish Association of the Sports Press (AEPD) gathered 125 delegates from all over Spain

http://www.aepde.org/finaliza-lvi-congreso-nacional-prensa-deportiva-la-nucia/

As can be seen in these photographs with Spaniards from all regions there is a strong homogeneity among Spaniards. A clear and easy way to settle such nonsense.

Now we do not need to look for a Galician redhead actress to try to make people believe that Galicians are red people, because we have everyone from North to South and from West to East.

[MysteriousWays]

Perhaps a tiny bit, but it is minimal. Spaniards are highly homogeneous genetically.

[Ruggery]

these photographs with Spaniards from all regions there is a strong homogeneity among Spaniards. A clear and easy way to settle such nonsense.

Now we do not need to look for a Galician redhead actress to try to make people believe that Galicians are red people, because we have everyone from North to South and from West to East.

However, in red hair gene it should be more common to see it in the north of Spain than in the south.
The closer to Ireland the more common it is.

[Septentrion]

However, in red hair gene it should be more common to see it in the north of Spain than in the south.
The closer to Ireland the more common it is.

Yes indeed. Additionally, in the 5th century AD, groups of Romano-Brythons fleeing Anglo-Saxon invasion of the island of Britannia came and settled coastal northern Spain, particularly in the Asturias, but also in Galicia. This might have also influenced the frequency of red hair. As it did in France making Brittany and the immediate surrounding areas as the most redhead parts of that country. This also increased the R1b-L21 Y-DNA haplogroup which isn't common in this part of Europe, rather is typical of the British Isles and parts of Norway.

[Latinus]

A bit lighter and with less exotic types than Southern ones, but nothing significant.

[alnortedelsur]

Youth Symphony Orchestra from Galicia:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KsXPq3nedY

Youth symphony Orchestra from the University of Valencia:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aajTjSdTD3k

[Gallop]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG-0EJ789A8
Hinojosa del Duque. Córdoba. Andalusia.

[Gallop]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppEy93FGssA
The morning, Peer Gynt - E.Grieg - Young Symphony Orchestra of Granada

[Ruggery]

Yes indeed. Additionally, in the 5th century AD, groups of Romano-Brythons fleeing Anglo-Saxon invasion of the island of Britannia came and settled coastal northern Spain, particularly in the Asturias, but also in Galicia. This might have also influenced the frequency of red hair. As it did in France making Brittany and the immediate surrounding areas as the most redhead parts of that country. This also increased the R1b-L21 Y-DNA haplogroup which isn't common in this part of Europe, rather is typical of the British Isles and parts of Norway.
+1

Yes, too.

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/red_hair_map_europe.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ymbBd.png

There´s another center of redhair in Udmurtia, Russia.

Yes, but the Udmurts are a siberian-mongolian ethnic group(not caucasian european).
It is worth mentioning that the ethnic group with more red hair are the Caucasian of northwestern Europe , but it is atypical to see them in other ethnic except the Udmurts.

[Duffmannn]

+1


Yes, but the Udmurts are a siberian-mongolian ethnic group(not caucasian european).
It is worth mentioning that the ethnic group with more red hair are the Caucasian of northwestern Europe , but it is atypical to see them except in other ethnic except the Udmurts.

Well Udmurts are caucasian-european people, uralic ones (as finns or estonians), have an slight mongoloid influence, but are still "white-european"

[Bodent]

+1


Yes, but the Udmurts are a siberian-mongolian ethnic group(not caucasian european).
It is worth mentioning that the ethnic group with more red hair are the Caucasian of northwestern Europe , but it is atypical to see them except in other ethnic except the Udmurts.

Udmurts are Finno-Ugric native to the Perm region west of the Urals not Siberia. They are actually predominantly West Eurasian.The Khanty who are from east of the Urals are more East Eurasian, but even they have significant West-Eurasian admixture.

Karin Mark found an average of 4% red hair among Udmurts with individual sampled varying from 1% to 7.3%.
According to James F. Tocher‘s survey of Scottish schoolchildren red hair averages 5.3% and runs up to around 7% in Banff and East Aberdeenshire in Northeastern Scotland.

The notion of the Udmurts being more frequently red-haired than the British Isles in completely false and based on low sample sizes by anthropologists like Malijew. However the frequency appears to be in the same general range as the British Isles with substantial samples.

[Ruggery]

Well Udmurts are caucasian-european people, uralic ones (as finns or estonians), have an slight mongoloid influence, but are still "white-european"

Exactly but the Mongoloid influence in that ethnic group is higher than the Finns and Estonian averages.

[Cristiano viejo]

If there’s a group that is different than the rest it should be the Basques.
Not physically and genotypically they are ultra close to the rest.


And there are more redheads because it is closer to Ireland xD

However, in red hair gene it should be more common to see it in the north of Spain than in the south.
The closer to Ireland the more common it is.

The village with more redheads in Spain is found in Andalusia. 10% are carrot-heads.

Good luck searching a village so all over Europe.

[El_Jibaro]

No, my Galician father is a wog, god damn it. My mother is much lighter (blue eyes, light brown kind of blondish hair) and she had a fully Canarian mom.

[Urbanuss]

Yes

[sofiagris]

The differences are very slight in Spain if you compare north to south, however there is a difference between the provinces that border with France and those bordering with Portugal, for example light eyes are more frequent in the area closest to France, reaching 22% in Gipuzkoa, 24% in Navarra, 27% in Zaragoza or 29% in Cantabria, in the provinces bordering Portugal they reach the minimum percentage of Spain at 10% and do not exceed 20% except in Orense and Pontevedra

[Gallop]

The differences are very slight in Spain if you compare north to south, however there is a difference between the provinces that border with France and those bordering with Portugal, for example light eyes are more frequent in the area closest to France, reaching 22% in Gipuzkoa, 24% in Navarra, 27% in Zaragoza or 29% in Cantabria, in the provinces bordering Portugal they reach the minimum percentage of Spain at 10% and do not exceed 20% except in Orense and Pontevedra

Source?

Among Spaniards there is no belief or discourse about it. Nobody thinks that in the north they are lighter or that in this or that place they are blonder e.t.c. We know that we have the different eye colors that can occur in Europe, as well as e.t.c. hair tones, but in general not for any territory preferably. It is a discourse that is heard from foreigners but that does not exist among us, so if it were real we would have it, and it is not so.

[Gallop]

https://estaticos-cdn.prensaiberica.es/clip/c134e4bc-5368-4a76-92fb-9792cb615224_16-9-aspect-ratio_default_0.jpg
Gallicians students

https://s3.ppllstatics.com/laverdad/www/multimedia/201808/25/media/cortadas/128327462--624x277.jpg
Murcian students


There is no such discourse among Spaniards in a serious or credible way.

[Gallop]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrRjJCarzpk&list=RDIrRjJCarzpk&start_radio=1

There are two Andalusians and one Asturian, would you know who they are?

It would be almost impossible with the naked eye. The Asturian is in the middle and the Andalusians are the ones on the two extremes, left and right.

Exactly the blonde is the Andalusian, sorry dear but that's the way it is.
Salvador Daza From Andalusia. Remind me to include it in the thread of blonde Spaniards. :)
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000373998802/f40508bc85e08eb1de7f03ca6b8e01b0_400x400.jpeg

[sofiagris]

Here is the link and source

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=115530&d=1662929396

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[Ruggery]

https://estaticos-cdn.prensaiberica.es/clip/c134e4bc-5368-4a76-92fb-9792cb615224_16-9-aspect-ratio_default_0.jpg
Gallicians students

https://s3.ppllstatics.com/laverdad/www/multimedia/201808/25/media/cortadas/128327462--624x277.jpg
Murcian students


There is no such discourse among Spaniards in a serious or credible way.

In The Galicians I have seen many dark-skinned people even without the need for the intense sun that exists in the south of Spain.