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Epirus DNA
05-10-2019, 11:58 AM
Eprius DNA Results :thumb001:
Archaeogenetic Matches in Date Order
(mytrueancestry.com)

Before Christ
4000 BC 32. Copper Age Armenia (4000 BC) (24.64)- I1631
3800 BC 28. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) (23.88)- I0184
3500 BC 45. Trypillia (3500 BC) (28.75)- I1926
2200 BC 27. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) (23.33)- I4930
2000 BC 41. Minoan (2000 BC) (27.82)-I9129
2000 BC 43. Minoan (2000 BC) (28.24)-I9005
2000 BC 46. Minoan (2000 BC) (28.94)-I0071
2000 BC 51. Minoan (2000 BC) (30.32)-I9130
2000 BC 52. Minoan (2000 BC) (30.37)-I0070
2000 BC 54. Minoan (2000 BC) (30.9)-I9131
2000 BC 55. Minoan (2000 BC) (31.59)-I0074
1875 BC 39. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (26.83)-MA2208
1875 BC 48. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (29.33)-MA2206
1675 BC 49. Hittite Anatolia (1675 BC) (29.47)-MA2200
1600 BC 11. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1600 BC) (19.51)-I4332
1500 BC 23. Bronze Age Armenia (1500 BC) (23.09)-Rise397
1370 BC 40. Crete Armenoi (1370 BC) (27.59)-I9123
1350 BC 7. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (16.6)-I9033
1350 BC 19. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (21.9)-I9006
1350 BC 20. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (22.51)-I9041
1350 BC 21. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (22.77)-I9010
1200 BC 29. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1200 BC) (24.03)-I3313
900 BC 50. Cimmerian Odessa (900 BC) (29.95)-cim358
800 BC 57. Hungary Iron Age (800 BC) (31.81)- IR1
775 BC 60. Halstatt (775 BC) (32.29)-DA112
600 BC 42. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (27.88)-scy010
600 BC 59. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (32.21)-scy009
450 BC 12. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (19.51)-I5769
300 BC 30. Scythian Moldova (300 BC) (24.2)-scy301
300 BC 47. Roman Soldier Germany (300 BC) (29.28)-FN_2
270 BC 18. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (21.7)-scy192
235 BC 44. Scythian Ukraine (235 BC) (28.58)-scy011


Anno Domini
300 AD 13. Ostrogoth Crimea (300 AD) (19.62)- Ker1
450 AD 31. Gepid / Goth (450 AD) (24.4)- Vim2
450 AD 56. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (31.79)-BIM_33
590 AD 1. Central Roman (590 AD) (11.92)-SZ32
590 AD 2. Central Roman (590 AD) (12.96)-SZ36
590 AD 3. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (13.07)-SZ40
590 AD 4. Central Roman (590 AD) (15.1)-SZ43
590 AD 9. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (18.94)-SZ19
590 AD 15. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (20.72)-SZ45
590 AD 16. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (20.97)-SZ18
590 AD 17. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (21.1)-SZ28
590 AD 25. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (23.14)-SZ5
590 AD 53. Celt / Hungary (590 AD) (30.68)-SZ42
590 AD 58. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (31.96)-SZ23
670 AD 5. Central Roman (670 AD) (16.27)-CL36
670 AD 6. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (16.4)-CL121
670 AD 8. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) (17.02)-CL38
670 AD 10. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (19.33)-CL30
670 AD 14. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) (20.31)-CL25
670 AD 24. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (23.13)-CL23
670 AD 26. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (23.18)-CL53
670 AD 33. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (24.67)-CL94
670 AD 34. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (25.07)-CL102
670 AD 35. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (25.16)-CL57
670 AD 36. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (25.31)-CL47
670 AD 37. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (25.98)-CL63
1244 AD 22. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (22.93)- DA199
1500 AD 38. Ottoman (1500 AD) (26.75)- MA2196


https://i.imgur.com/FmOTrQF.jpg
Nassbean
05-10-2019, 12:02 PM
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Skif
05-10-2019, 12:59 PM
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Voskos
05-10-2019, 02:45 PM
So these guys are your closest matches:
590 AD 1. Central Roman (590 AD) (11.92)-SZ32
590 AD 2. Central Roman (590 AD) (12.96)-SZ36
590 AD 3. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (13.07)-SZ40
590 AD 4. Central Roman (590 AD) (15.1)-SZ43
Epirus DNA
05-10-2019, 02:58 PM
So these guys are your closest matches:
590 AD 1. Central Roman (590 AD) (11.92)-SZ32
590 AD 2. Central Roman (590 AD) (12.96)-SZ36
590 AD 3. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (13.07)-SZ40
590 AD 4. Central Roman (590 AD) (15.1)-SZ43

Yes. Here are the results in order from #1 - #60 closest matches:

https://i.imgur.com/Cu5hXJ2.jpg
Freeroostah
05-10-2019, 03:01 PM
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Closest Archeogenetic matches

1. Central Roman (590 AD) (11.45) - SZ32
2. Central Roman (590 AD) (11.61) - SZ36
3. Central Roman (590 AD) (13.66) - SZ43
4. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (15.24) - CL121
5. Central Roman (670 AD) (16.04) - CL36
6. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (18.53) - SZ40
7. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (18.62) - SZ28
8. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (18.69) - CL23
9. Ostrogoth Crimea (300 AD) (19.35) - Ker1
10. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (19.57) - CL30
11. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (19.73) - I9033
12. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (19.81) - SZ45
13. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (19.99) - SZ19
14. Crete Armenoi (1370 BC) (20.75) - I9123
15. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1600 BC) (20.85) - I4332
16. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (20.85) - I5769
17. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) (21.03) - CL38
18. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) (21.19) - CL25
19. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1200 BC) (21.3) - I3313
20. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (21.31) - SZ18
21. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (21.4) - scy192
22. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (22.91) - CL57
23. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (22.93) - CL94
24. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (22.93) - I9041
25. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (23.73) - SZ5
26. Bronze Age Armenia (1500 BC) (23.94) - Rise397
27. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (24.17) - CL53
28. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) (24.26) - I4930
29. Gepid / Goth (450 AD) (24.32) - Vim2
30. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (24.46) - DA199
31. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (24.78) - CL63
32. Scythian Moldova (300 BC) (25.45) - scy301
33. Copper Age Armenia (4000 BC) (25.48) - I1631
34. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (25.69) - CL47
35. Ottoman (1500 AD) (25.77) - MA2196
36. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (25.83) - I9010
37. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) (26.07) - I0184
38. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (26.26) - CL102
39. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (26.34) - I9006
40. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (26.49) - scy010
41. Roman Soldier Germany (300 BC) (28.09) - FN_2
42. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (28.35) - MA2208
43. Minoan (2000 BC) (29.35) - I9005
44. Cimmerian Odessa (900 BC) (29.44) - cim358
45. Hungary Iron Age (800 BC) (29.53) - IR1
46. Minoan (2000 BC) (29.89) - I9129
47. Trypillia (3500 BC) (30.03) - I1926
48. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (30.09) - MA2206
49. Scythian Ukraine (235 BC) (30.12) - scy011
50. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (30.3) - scy009
51. Minoan (2000 BC) (30.49) - I0071
52. Celt / Hungary (590 AD) (30.52) - SZ42
53. Hittite Anatolia (1675 BC) (30.85) - MA2200
54. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (31.47) - BIM_33
55. Minoan (2000 BC) (31.53) - I0070
56. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (31.98) - SZ38
57. Minoan (2000 BC) (32.28) - I9130
58. Halstatt (775 BC) (32.29) - DA112
59. Scythian Russia (300 BC) (32.53) - I0247
60. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (32.68) - SZ23
Voskos
05-10-2019, 03:01 PM
Cool results. Native southeast european.
Rgvgjhvv
05-10-2019, 03:01 PM
1. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (11.69) - [Upgrade for more details]
2. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (12.12) - [Upgrade for more details]
3. Central Roman (590 AD) (12.37) - [Upgrade for more details]
4. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (12.39) - [Upgrade for more details]
5. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) (12.47) - [Upgrade for more details]
6. Central Roman (590 AD) (13.47) - [Upgrade for more details]
7. Central Roman (590 AD) (13.61) - [Upgrade for more details]
8. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) (13.8) - [Upgrade for more details]
9. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (14.25) - [Upgrade for more details]
10. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (14.56) - [Upgrade for more details]
11. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (15.29) - [Upgrade for more details]
12. Central Roman (670 AD) (16.39) - [Upgrade for more details]
13. Ostrogoth Crimea (300 AD) (16.41) - [Upgrade for more details]
14. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) (17.08) - [Upgrade for more details]
15. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (17.65) - [Upgrade for more details]
16. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (17.83) - [Upgrade for more details]
17. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (18.97) - [Upgrade for more details]
18. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) (19.69) - [Upgrade for more details]
19. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (20.31) - [Upgrade for more details]
20. Minoan (2000 BC) (21.15) - [Upgrade for more details]

EDIT: Just saw in date order. But too lazy :lol:
Epirus DNA
05-10-2019, 03:08 PM
1. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (11.69) - [Upgrade for more details]

EDIT: Just saw in date order. But too lazy :lol:

'Date Order' is interesting to me because I am looking for parallels between this Date Order List and my Y-DNA migration.
It's very interesting stuff.
Rgvgjhvv
05-10-2019, 03:10 PM
'Date Order' is interesting to me because I am looking for parallels between this Date Order List and my Y-DNA migration.
It's very interesting stuff.

I agree, it would be cool. It would just take me a while/I wouldn't even be sure how to begin
Epirus DNA
05-10-2019, 03:10 PM
Cool results. Native southeast european.

Absolutely! Thanks! Interesting comparing this with the J2a Y-DNA migration and looking at what the community has for Minoan and Mycenaen Haplos.


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Individual Population Haplogroup
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I2495 Anatolia_BA J1a(xJ1a2b)

I0070 Minoan_Lasithi J2a1d

I0073 Minoan_Lasithi J2a1(xJ2a1a, J2a1b1a, J2a1b2, J2a1c, J2a1e, J2a1h, J2a1i)

I9130 Minoan_Odigitria G2a2b2a(xG2a2b2a1b1a2a, G2a2b2a1c1a)

I9041 Mycenaean J2a1(xJ2a1a, J2a1b1, J2a1b2, J2a1c, J2a1e, J2a1g, J2a1h, J2a1i)
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The Mycenean sample is not negative for J2a1b which means that it can still be J2-M67*.
J2-M67's ultimate origin is most likely somewhere around Armenia, but off course this doesn't mean automatically that proto-Greeks had West Asian origin, because it could be there from Minoan period.
Also it should be added that in Voskeridas paper J2-M67 showed as good correlation in spreading Greek language to Cyprus as R1b-M269, so it's presence in Mycenean context makes sense. Absence of E-V13 in Bronze Age Balkans and Greece on the other side is very puzzling.
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Epirus DNA
05-10-2019, 03:12 PM
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Closest Archeogenetic matches

1. Central Roman (590 AD) (11.45) - SZ32
2. Central Roman (590 AD) (11.61) - SZ36
3. Central Roman (590 AD) (13.66) - SZ43
4. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (15.24) - CL121
5. Central Roman (670 AD) (16.04) - CL36
6. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (18.53) - SZ40
7. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (18.62) - SZ28
8. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (18.69) - CL23
9. Ostrogoth Crimea (300 AD) (19.35) - Ker1
10. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (19.57) - CL30


Who are these Central Romans?! Hellenized Romans or Greeks?
Epirus DNA
05-10-2019, 03:14 PM
I agree, it would be cool. It would just take me a while/I wouldn't even be sure how to begin

Tedious 15 minute Excel work-- Copy & Paste from MyTrueA and then add column filters to reorganize.
Freeroostah
05-10-2019, 05:36 PM
Who are these Central Romans?! Hellenized Romans or Greeks?

I've no idea, I think they were found in graves with other Helleno-Romans so they could have Greek blood?

Sources : https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-06024-4
MagnusDark
05-11-2019, 01:55 PM
Me:

1. Central Roman (590 AD) (7.168) - SZ32
2. Central Roman (590 AD) (9.685) - SZ36
3. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (11.61) - I9033
4. Central Roman (590 AD) (12.27) - SZ43
5. Central Roman (670 AD) (13.04) - CL36
6. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (13.92) - SZ19
7. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (13.96) - SZ40
8. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1600 BC) (14.09) - I4332
9. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) (14.09) - I5769
10. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (14.39) - CL121
11. Scythian Moldova (270 BC) (15.68) - scy192
12. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) (15.75) - SZ28
13. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) (15.96) - I4930
14. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (18.38) - I9041
15. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) (19.67) - CL25
16. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (19.85) - I9006
17. Medieval Iberian (670 AD) (20.02) - CL23
18. Cisalpine Gaul (590 AD) (20.06) - SZ45
19. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) (20.31) - CL38
20. Illyrian / Dalmatia (1200 BC) (20.36) - I3313
21. Iberian / Piedmont (670 AD) (20.41) - CL94
22. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (20.63) - I9010
23. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (21.06) - CL30
24. Trypillia (3500 BC) (21.18) - I1926
25. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (21.29) - SZ18
26. Medieval Hungary / Balkan (1244 AD) (21.68) - DA199
27. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) (23.11) - I0184
28. Medieval Piedmont (670 AD) (23.11) - CL57
29. Medieval Tyrolian (670 AD) (23.16) - CL53
30. Roman Soldier Germany (300 BC) (23.79) - FN_2
31. Ostrogoth Crimea (300 AD) (23.88) - Ker1
32. Minoan (2000 BC) (23.94) - I9005
33. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (24.21) - SZ5
34. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (24.51) - CL102
35. Crete Armenoi (1370 BC) (24.52) - I9123
36. Frankish-Gaul / Lombardy Italy (670 AD) (24.71) - CL47
37. Minoan (2000 BC) (25.0) - I9130
38. Minoan (2000 BC) (25.09) - I0071
39. Medieval Frank (670 AD) (25.62) - CL63
40. Minoan (2000 BC) (26.02) - I9129
41. Gepid / Goth (450 AD) (26.13) - Vim2
42. Minoan (2000 BC) (26.14) - I9131
43. Scythian Moldova (300 BC) (26.27) - scy301
44. Minoan (2000 BC) (26.45) - I0070
45. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (26.91) - MA2208
46. Bronze Age Armenia (1500 BC) (27.71) - Rise397
47. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (28.02) - MA2206
48. Minoan (2000 BC) (28.03) - I0074
49. Minoan (2000 BC) (28.75) - I0073
50. Scythian Ukraine (235 BC) (29.17) - scy011
51. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (29.49) - scy010
52. Roman Soldier Freiham-Nord Germany (300 BC) (29.84) - FN_2
53. Neolithic Germany (3200 BC) (29.86) - I0172
54. Hittite Anatolia (1675 BC) (29.93) - MA2200
55. Ottoman (1500 AD) (30.56) - MA2196
56. Copper Age Armenia (4000 BC) (30.73) - I1631
57. Neolithic Greece (4000 BC) (31.14) - Klei10
58. Neolithic Anatolia (6300 BC) (31.39) - I0746
59. Frankish / Hungary (590 AD) (31.6) - SZ23
60. Bell Beaker Poland (2500 BC) (31.74) - I4251