View Full Version : What's the true origin of my Y-DNA?
Voskos
05-10-2019, 03:30 PM
Any ideas?
Rgvgjhvv
05-10-2019, 03:31 PM
Just for reference:
http://i66.tinypic.com/ekbpw.gif
Voskos
05-10-2019, 03:43 PM
If i had to judge from above map solely, I'd say proto-Iranic/ proto-Kurdish.
Rgvgjhvv
05-10-2019, 03:44 PM
If i had to judge from above map solely, I'd say proto-Iranic/ proto-Kurdish.
Haplogroup T is one of the most widely dispersed paternal lineages in the world. In Europe, it makes up only 1% of the population on most of the continent, except in Greece, Macedonia and Italy where it exceeds 4%, and in Iberia where it reaches 2.5%, peaking at 10% in Cadiz and over 15% in Ibiza. The maximal worldwide frequency for haplogroup T is observed in East Africa (Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania) and in the Middle East (especially the South Caucasus, southern Iraq, south-west Iran, Oman and southern Egypt), where it accounts for approximately 5 to 15% of the male lineages. Over 50% of haplogroup T has been reported in some tribes in northern Somalia and Djibouti. Another hotspot are the Fulani people of Cameroon (18%). Besides these regions and Europe, T is found in isolated pockets as far as Zambia, South Africa, India, Central Asia and Northeast Asia, including southern Siberia, Mongolia (2%) and northern China (1%).
Rgvgjhvv
05-10-2019, 03:47 PM
Nowadays haplogroup T1a is far more common in Mediterranean Europe than elsewhere on the continent. This suggests that the bulk of T1a farmers may have followed a different route from the Near East, either by boat along the coasts, and/or via North Africa.
Furthermore, within Europe the frequency of T1a mirrors that haplogroup J1, just as they do in the Arabian peninsula. In Europe, both haplogroups are most common in the mountainous parts of the southern Balkans, the central and southern Apennines in Italy, Sicily, the Massif Central in France (Auvergne), and south-western Iberia. All these regions would have been better suited for goat and sheep herding than for cereal cultivation in the Neolithic period. Mountainous regions allow herders to practice transhumance, i.e. the seasonal movement of people with their livestock between fixed summer and winter pastures.
Pubiczar
05-10-2019, 03:49 PM
Looks Mediterranean...
Rgvgjhvv
05-10-2019, 03:51 PM
The European branch appears to have propagated through a Mediterranean route to Greece, Italy (including Sicily and Sardinia) and Iberia. Historically the Kura-Araxes culture is the best match for this expansion. While the Proto-Indo-Europeans (haplogroups R1a and R1b) were expanding from the Pontic-Caspian Steppe to central and northern Europe and Central Asia, the Kura-Araxes people, on the other side of the Caucasus, also developed a contemporary Bronze Age culture that expanded across West Asia, and possibly as far east as Pakistan and India. The Minoans, Europe's oldest proper civilisation (as opposed to archeological culture), could be an offshoot from that Kura-Araxes expansion.
gıulıoımpa
05-10-2019, 03:54 PM
I think it may be afroasiatic in origin then became protomediterranian.
Voskos
05-10-2019, 04:05 PM
Its parent clade LT:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Haplogroup_LT_%28L298-P326%29.png/831px-Haplogroup_LT_%28L298-P326%29.png
TheMaestro
05-10-2019, 04:11 PM
Didn't even know this even exists.
Voskos
05-10-2019, 04:26 PM
Also, to note that the publicly available FT-dna T-M70 data, shows that a significant part of the T-M70 results are coming from Ashkenazi people having origins in regions like Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania. Together with the Karaite(Karaites are the direct descendants of the Khazar Turks) Haplogroup T-M70 results above, this shows that the origin of Haplogroup T-M70 is equal to the West Eurasian origin(1 West Eurasian anthrolopogical type which is equal to multiple West Eurasian haplogroups: E, G, H, I, J, L, R, T) of the medieval Khazar Turks.
Also the fact that haplogroup L1a(LT* => L* and T*) has been found within the earliest Kura Araxes archaeological culture people(Kura Araxes culture: the root of the Proto Turk Kurgan Culture) shows that Haplogroup T-M70 is of Proto Turk origin(West Eurasian origin).
Zmey Gorynych
05-10-2019, 04:28 PM
Rare haplotype, I remember there was a spaniard here who was F.
and Their legs are long
Possible patterns between Y-chromosome and elite endurance runners were studied in an attempt to find a genetic explanation to the Ethiopian endurance running success. Given the superiority of East African athletes in international distance running over the past four decades, it has been speculated that they are genetically advantaged. Elite marathon runners from Ethiopia were analysed for K*(xP) which according to the previously published Ethiopian studies is attributable to the haplogroup T[305]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_T-M184#Elite_endurance_runners
Voskos
05-10-2019, 04:32 PM
QUOTE:
The highest frequency of haplogroup T is found among the Kazakh Turks, the Dravidians, the Antemoro and maybe also among the Dire Dawa Somalis.
Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
05-10-2019, 04:41 PM
Fertile crescent ? Looks neolithic, but rare unlike G.
I’m a nutshell; I,G, E,J,T,F big dick Africans. R1 micropenis asians
Altaylardan Tunaya
05-10-2019, 05:09 PM
It could be Phoenician or Elamite..
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