Why McDonald’s Flopped In Vietnam

[The Lawspeaker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9pthhpd7So

The fast food industry thrives in most of the world. Chains like McDonald's and Burger King typically come out on top in the $651 billion fast food industry. In Vietnam, however, the brands have failed to take off. McDonald's and Burger King have more than 36,000 and 16,000 locations across the globe, respectively. But in Vietnam, McDonald's has 17 stores and Burger King has 13. In Vietnam, a country spoiled for choice when it comes to food, some U.S. fast food chains are struggling to compete with the local competition.

[SunCo]

Can vouch for this. When I went to visit my family over there, you could take a couple minute walk to find your breakfast across the street really cheap

[The Lawspeaker]

Can vouch for this. When I went to visit my family over there, you could take a couple minute walk to find your breakfast across the street really cheap

I have the same when I am in the Philippines. Who needs McDonalds ? The price is first world but the quality is shite. I have a trillion other options.

[The Lawspeaker]

Prices are in PHP (Filipino peso) at your local Jollibee:

https://b.zmtcdn.com/data/menus/180/6300180/c19fa1b2fd6c3e378eb07b8690a33766.jpg

1 Euro is around PHP 58. Tell me again why I should go to McDonalds ? Ooh btw: and then I'm splurging. I can get a good bite in every possible street stall for less than 30. A carenderia would be mid-range and I eat there all the time when I'm there.

[Westbrook]

TLDW: They'd rather eat dirty street food at dirt cheap prices

[The Lawspeaker]

TLDW: They'd rather eat dirty street food at dirt cheap prices

Ever seen where McDrek gets its own ingredients from ?

[Westbrook]

No but I know southeast Asians literally recycle used rotting dumpster meat
Ever seen where McDrek gets its own ingredients from ?

[The Lawspeaker]

No but I know southeast Asians literally recycle used rotting dumpster meat

McDonald's isn't that different.

[IrisSelene]

No but I know southeast Asians literally recycle used rotting dumpster meat

They've found even nastier shit in Mc Donalds

[Óttar]

TLDW: They'd rather eat dirty street food at dirt cheap prices

I ate street food in India all the time and never once got sick. Hotel food on the other hand...

[The Lawspeaker]

Fuck McDonalds ! Give me silog (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silog_(dish))(of any kind) or some tsampurado (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champorado) or bulalo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulalo)(when it's a bit colder) and a good strong cup of kapeng barako (coffee - but stronger - more of the espresso variant) and I am ready to start the day.

(Blast ! I am craving for some Filipino food now..)

[The Lawspeaker]

I ate street food in India all the time and never once got sick. Hotel food on the other hand...

I remember buying street food for the first time in El Nido and got a very bad case of Delhi belly but haven't had any problems since.

[Westbrook]

Like what? It's hard to trust much of anything in third world countries, but at least there's some oversight with an international franchise.
They've found even nastier shit in Mc Donalds

[KMack]

If pricing isn't in line with local restaurants it won't large scale. I like breakfast fast food but not much else. McDonalds invented the egg mcmuffin breakfast sandwich, it isn't bad.

[Black Panther]

Good for them. Doesn't seem like it's a country that will be suffering from high obesity rates in the near future. Fast food consumption is destroying the aesthetics of a lot of people in developed AND developing countries. A lot of my friends in Brazil are becoming huge fatsos because of fast food consumption and other crappy eating choices they make. I could notice the difference between now and 6 years ago when I had first left the country. Depressing, really.

[IrisSelene]

Like what? It's hard to trust much of anything in third world countries, but at least there's some oversight with an international franchise.

https://i.imgur.com/v08hcPV.jpg
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[Black Panther]

I myself avoid fast food like a plague. Haven't stepped my foot in McDonalds or Burger King for over a year now. Don't regret it.

[Richmondbread]

They need a Chick-Fil-A

[Richmondbread]

Good for them. Doesn't seem like it's a country that will be suffering from high obesity rates in the near future. Fast food consumption is destroying the aesthetics of a lot of people in developed AND developing countries. A lot of my friends in Brazil are becoming huge fatsos because of fast food consumption and other crappy eating choices they make. I could notice the difference between now and 6 years ago when I had first left the country. Depressing, really.

Ignorance causes obesity, not fast food.

[The Lawspeaker]

I myself avoid fast food like a plague. Haven't stepped my foot in McDonalds or Burger King for over a year now. Don't regret it.

I am not going there either. The last time I went to anything which would be deemed fastfood here was to a sandwich store for a quick pick me up. And, oh yes, a herring sandwich from a cart is technically fast food as well.

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0d/8d/bc/82/leckereien-in-der-ablage.jpg

[PaleoEuropean]

I ate street food in India all the time and never once got sick. Hotel food on the other hand...

The spices they use like turmeric have anti-bacterial properties. You could cook roadkill in turmeric and probably not get sick XD.

[The Lawspeaker]

They need a Chick-Fil-A

I'd be o.k with replacing all McDonald's, Starbucks, Burger King's and KFC in the Netherlands with Wendy's and Chick-Fil-A's at a 50 to 1 ratio: 50 places close, 1 opens. Since there are 225 McDonalds (most of which franchises), 60 to 70 Burger King's, 73 Starbucks and 58 KFC's, we can gain a lot (or rather: lose) a lot by closing them all down. That means that they will be able to get 9 outlets and rest of the market can be given to independent sandwich stores, bakeries and coffee lounges etc.

[Smeagol]

I ordered McDonalds once and found a dead fly in the food.

[The Lawspeaker]

I ordered McDonalds once and found a dead fly in the food.

That doesn't surprise me at all.

[Smeagol]

That doesn't surprise me at all.

Thankfully I got my money back.

[The Lawspeaker]

Thankfully I got my money back.

I know one thing: I think we need to get rid of all those fast food stores.

[Vojnik]

Sell a fried rice burger and see them flock to the stores.

[Vojnik]

Macedonia hasn't even got one McDonald's. They don't survive there either for some reason.

They have a couple of Burger king's, but i reckon that will shut down too.

[arkas]

Sell a fried rice burger and see them flock to the stores.

Are you retarded?

Anyways, Vietnamese have way better French influenced cuisine, banh mi rolls are delicious, they're like the burger of Vietnam.

[The Lawspeaker]

Are you retarded?

Anyways, Vietnamese have way better French influenced cuisine, banh mi rolls are delicious, they're like the burger of Vietnam.

As if they are begging for American fastfood there. In Vietnam of all places..:picard1: I guess Vojnik never tried Vietnamese food.

[Vojnik]

Are you retarded?

Anyways, Vietnamese have way better French influenced cuisine, banh mi rolls are delicious, they're like the burger of Vietnam.

Wow. Relax. It was a joke.

[Vojnik]

As if they are begging for American fastfood there. In Vietnam of all places..:picard1: I guess Vojnik never tried Vietnamese food.

I looooove Vietnamese food.

[Westbrook]

Why
I know one thing: I think we need to get rid of all those fast food stores.

[The Lawspeaker]

I looooove Vietnamese food.

Good stuff. Just pricey here.

[The Lawspeaker]

Why

Public health hazard and a rape of the local economy as all profits flow out of the country. Never mind that it's also cultural imperialism as none of these companies sell traditionally Dutch products or even use the Dutch language.

[Ayetooey]

Macedonia hasn't even got one McDonald's. They don't survive there either for some reason.

They have a couple of Burger king's, but i reckon that will shut down too.

People would be mad to go to such a place in balkans when you can go get cevapi, Pljeskavica, burek etc.

[Westbrook]

Health nannyism? Protectionism? You're sounding really Euro right now and not in a good way.
Public health hazard and a rape of the local economy as all profits flow out of the country. Never mind that it's also cultural imperialism as none of these companies sell traditionally Dutch products or even use the Dutch language.

[Vojnik]

Good stuff. Just pricey here.

Really? In Australia it is very cheap in my opinion.

[Vojnik]

People would be mad to go to such a place in balkans when you can go get cevapi, Pljeskavica, burek etc.

Yes. In Australia, after a night out at clubs, everyone goes to Mcdonald's or Kebab. In Macedonia, they get Burek. I experienced this in Skopje after a night out, the Burek shop on the corner of were i was staying was full of people. Culture shock. :P

[The Lawspeaker]

Health nannyism? Protectionism? You're sounding really Euro right now and not in a good way.

Yes. I am very protectionist. Because our own economy is more important than the figures of some foreign tax-dodging multinational. I wouldn't be a patriot if I wouldn't place our own needs over the needs of the foreigner. Particularly if foreign corporations who fund all sorts of liberal initiatives to undercut local labour by importing more migrants and who adulterate their food stuffs.

[The Lawspeaker]

Really? In Australia it is very cheap in my opinion.

Not here. We don't have many Vietnamese here so it's rather exclusive.

[Vojnik]

The Balkans want this:
https://images.myguide-cdn.com/macedonia/blog/taste-of-macedonia-part-one/large/taste-of-macedonia-part-one-188353.jpg

https://previews.123rf.com/images/visionsi/visionsi1603/visionsi160300034/56469338-wholesome-platter-of-mixed-meats-including-grilled-steak-balkan-food.jpg

Not this:
https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5bd8a43c1011421d960d9563-750-563.jpg

[Vojnik]

Yeah, but McDonald's should have just remained in North America. It is rubbish.

[The Lawspeaker]

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http://www.partyserviceinstijl.nl/webshop/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/broodje-roomkaas-bieslook.jpg

http://bar-b.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Burger-n-Beer.jpg

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Instead of this:

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[Smeagol]

I know one thing: I think we need to get rid of all those fast food stores.

The only one I still go to is Chick-fil-A. The food is decent and the company is owned by good Christians who I like to support. Especially considering leftists are always trying to sabotage them.

[The Lawspeaker]

The only one I still go to is Chick-fil-A. The food is decent and the company is owned by good Christians who I like to support. Especially considering leftists are always trying to sabotage them.

I wish them good luck. I think we need to protect our own middenstand (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittelstand) (the smallholder) and get rid of all these multinational fast-food businesses.

[Westbrook]

Do you really feel like the Dutch nation and culture is so fragile that it could be damaged by fast food restaurants?
Yes. I am very protectionist. Because our own economy is more important than the figures of some foreign tax-dodging multinational. I wouldn't be a patriot if I wouldn't place our own needs over the needs of the foreigner. Particularly if foreign corporations who fund all sorts of liberal initiatives to undercut local labour by importing more migrants and who adulterate their food stuffs.

I wish them good luck. I think we need to protect our own middenstand (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittelstand) (the smallholder) and get rid of all these multinational fast-food businesses.

[The Lawspeaker]

Do you really feel like the Dutch nation and culture is so fragile that it could be damaged by fast food restaurants?

We're a small country and one that is worth protecting. And every drop adds up. Besides the wellbeing of our taxpaying middenstand is more important to our economy than your tax-dodging multinationals. We don't really need them. McDonald's opened here in 1971 and has been undercutting Dutch labour and businesses (while dodging due taxes) since and it's time to end that era.

[Black Panther]

Ignorance causes obesity, not fast food.

The increase in demand for fast food is a sign of societal ignorance.

[Black Panther]

I am not going there either. The last time I went to anything which would be deemed fastfood here was to a sandwich store for a quick pick me up. And, oh yes, a herring sandwich from a cart is technically fast food as well.

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0d/8d/bc/82/leckereien-in-der-ablage.jpg

I ate at a Subway store, which isn't as bad as going to a Mc or King store, for almost 2 years ago. That's the last memory I have of eating fast food.

[The Lawspeaker]

I ate at a Subway store, which isn't as bad as going to a Mc or King store, for almost 2 years ago. That's the last memory I have of eating fast food.

Subway isn't too bad but this isn't a Subway but a BackWerk (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/BackWerk). Personally, I would like to see them broken up as well but Subway just needs to go as well.