View Full Version : Collegno Longobards on GEDmatch Genesis
Peterski
05-11-2019, 01:15 AM
I have uploaded them to GEDmatch Genesis (should be available for "one-to-many" comparisons tomorrow):
Kit Number: UU5731879
Name: CL23
Kit Number: QD2543537
Name: CL25
Kit Number: NZ1152016
Name: CL30
Kit Number: WK4740429
Name: CL31
Kit Number: RS3778199
Name: CL47
Kit Number: SW6326785
Name: CL38
Kit Number: WU7470506
Name: CL36
Kit Number: NC7956297
Name: CL53
Kit Number: RP8536010
Name: CL57
Kit Number: BR2498284
Name: CL49
Kit Number: WG5925191
Name: CL63
Kit Number: GF5389415
Name: CL83
Kit Number: XA3720720
Name: CL84
Kit Number: PE7670115
Name: CL87
Kit Number: DV8389110
Name: CL92
Kit Number: LP1921598
Name: CL93
Kit Number: ZQ6809113
Name: CL94
Kit Number: CA9725839
Name: CL97
Kit Number: SJ4379167
Name: CL110
Kit Number: HU4726947
Name: CL102
Kit Number: SU3968596
Name: CL145
Kit Number: UK8807731
Name: CL151
Kit Number: GL9210858
Name: CL121
Kit Number: XW7223819
Name: CL146
PS: I've mistakenly uploaded them to my "Poland Regions" account, I'll move them to another account later.
See my ancient Poland uploads here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?287204-DNA-of-ancient-inhabitants-of-Poland-and-neighbouring-areas
Peterski
05-12-2019, 06:12 PM
And here are all of the Szolad samples:
Kit Number: LX9522162
Name: SZ1
Kit Number: DQ5538890
Name: SZ2
Kit Number: XL9733057
Name: SZ3
Kit Number: UA7388446
Name: SZ4
Kit Number: SE6751075
Name: SZ5
Kit Number: LL1292414
Name: SZ6
Kit Number: UX4123860
Name: SZ7
Kit Number: UG6245064
Name: SZ8
Kit Number: LY7666778
Name: SZ9
Kit Number: WX9701878
Name: SZ11
Kit Number: RT8592756
Name: SZ12
Kit Number: RP1749276
Name: SZ13
Kit Number: HM6319499
Name: SZ14
Kit Number: RD7767956
Name: SZ15
Kit Number: JB8452859
Name: SZ16
Kit Number: GP9641645
Name: SZ18
Kit Number: QA1470938
Name: SZ19
Kit Number: UB5566403
Name: SZ20
Kit Number: ZK5912932
Name: SZ22
Kit Number: SX7411199
Name: SZ23
Kit Number: FJ2528471
Name: SZ24
Kit Number: SG8142119
Name: SZ25
Kit Number: EY6160897
Name: SZ27
Kit Number: AW3972989
Name: SZ28
Kit Number: EJ9998826
Name: SZ30
Kit Number: NM6192702
Name: SZ31
Kit Number: UU6914129
Name: SZ32
Kit Number: DB9262516
Name: SZ35
Kit Number: BY5848416
Name: SZ36
Kit Number: BF8929036
Name: SZ37
Kit Number: ZJ3278878
Name: SZ38
Kit Number: TZ5280008
Name: SZ40
Kit Number: DH1542070
Name: SZ41
Kit Number: QF6361492
Name: SZ42
Kit Number: JH3368939
Name: SZ43
Kit Number: QN2474695
Name: SZ44
Kit Number: LN6607043
Name: SZ45
https://i.imgur.com/gzqLFt7.jpg
Kit SW6326785
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.48
2 West_Asian 20.33
3 West_Med 19.44
4 North_Atlantic 17.03
5 Red_Sea 6.62
6 Baltic 1.66
7 East_Asian 1.01
8 Northeast_African 0.96
9 Amerindian 0.82
10 Sub-Saharan 0.66
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 6.93
2 Sephardic_Jewish 8.34
3 East_Sicilian 9
4 Central_Greek 9.45
5 Italian_Abruzzo 9.85
6 Italian_Jewish 10.49
7 West_Sicilian 11.21
8 Algerian_Jewish 11.4
9 Tunisian_Jewish 11.93
10 Ashkenazi 12
11 Libyan_Jewish 12.83
12 Cyprian 13.05
13 Lebanese_Muslim 14.83
14 Turkish 15.57
15 Syrian 16.22
16 Greek_Thessaly 16.23
17 Tuscan 16.98
18 Samaritan 19.58
19 Jordanian 19.74
20 Lebanese_Druze 19.96
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.6% Kurdish_Jewish + 31.4% French_Basque @ 3.49
2 59% Kurdish_Jewish + 41% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.54
3 62.5% Kurdish_Jewish + 37.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.65
4 76.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 23.8% French_Basque @ 3.82
5 81.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 18.6% Ossetian @ 3.9
6 60.8% Kurdish_Jewish + 39.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.95
7 63.7% Assyrian + 36.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.13
8 59.5% Kurdish_Jewish + 40.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.19
9 60.2% Assyrian + 39.8% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.22
10 60.3% Kurdish_Jewish + 39.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.27
11 77.1% Italian_Jewish + 22.9% Ossetian @ 4.29
12 81.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 18.7% Balkar @ 4.37
13 58.6% Kurdish_Jewish + 41.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.38
14 62.5% Kurdish_Jewish + 37.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.39
15 82.6% Sephardic_Jewish + 17.4% North_Ossetian @ 4.4
16 60.7% Assyrian + 39.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.41
17 67.2% West_Sicilian + 32.8% Armenian @ 4.44
18 82.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 17.3% Chechen @ 4.45
19 62% Assyrian + 38% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.47
20 81.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 18.3% Adygei @ 4.49
Kit WK4740429
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.6
2 West_Med 18.2
3 North_Atlantic 16.12
4 East_Asian 15.49
5 West_Asian 9.24
6 Baltic 6.08
7 Siberian 4.69
8 Red_Sea 3.61
9 Northeast_African 2.31
10 South_Asian 1.82
11 Oceanian 0.5
12 Amerindian 0.35
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Sicilian 18.33
2 East_Sicilian 18.92
3 Italian_Abruzzo 18.92
4 Central_Greek 19.18
5 Greek_Thessaly 19.57
6 Ashkenazi 19.6
7 South_Italian 19.85
8 Tuscan 20.34
9 Sephardic_Jewish 21.91
10 Algerian_Jewish 21.93
11 Italian_Jewish 22.06
12 North_Italian 23.04
13 Bulgarian 23.37
14 Tunisian_Jewish 24.18
15 Libyan_Jewish 24.38
16 Romanian 24.4
17 Turkish 25.87
18 Serbian 27.04
19 Cyprian 27.44
20 Algerian 27.7
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.5% West_Sicilian + 21.5% Yizu @ 2.38
2 78.5% West_Sicilian + 21.5% Naxi @ 2.49
3 80.4% West_Sicilian + 19.6% Tujia @ 3.06
4 77.1% West_Sicilian + 22.9% Tu @ 3.25
5 80.7% West_Sicilian + 19.3% Miaozu @ 3.33
6 78.5% West_Sicilian + 21.5% Japanese @ 3.52
7 81.1% West_Sicilian + 18.9% She @ 3.53
8 80.4% West_Sicilian + 19.6% Lahu @ 3.78
9 76.1% West_Sicilian + 23.9% Tibeto-Burman_Burmese @ 3.8
10 78.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 21.7% Yizu @ 4.18
11 78.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 21.8% Naxi @ 4.27
12 78.3% East_Sicilian + 21.7% Yizu @ 4.35
13 78.2% East_Sicilian + 21.8% Naxi @ 4.41
14 80.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 19.8% Tujia @ 4.61
15 81.5% West_Sicilian + 18.5% Vietnamese @ 4.65
16 80.2% East_Sicilian + 19.8% Tujia @ 4.72
17 80.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 19.6% Miaozu @ 4.82
18 75.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 24.3% Tibeto-Burman_Burmese @ 4.89
19 80.4% East_Sicilian + 19.6% Miaozu @ 4.9
20 80.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 19.2% She @ 4.9
Peterski
11-15-2019, 09:13 PM
This is how I predicted ethnicity of Szolad samples based on their results few months ago:
https://i.imgur.com/pKzwdIJ.png
^^^
And this is how they are modelled now in G25 with new Roman samples used in the models:
SOURCE:
Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081 458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0. 004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
Germanic:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048 773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.001329 5,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Germanic:SWE_IA,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.05846 3,0.041238,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.00284 4,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359
Germanic:DNK_BA,0.1160995,0.1370965,0.0633565,0.05 24875,0.0296975,0.0301205,0.011163,-0.005192,-0.0072605,-0.003827,-0.002923,0.0089175,-0.004683,-0.0161015,0.0138435,0.0041765,0.00678,0.009565,0.0 152095,0.0046275,0.017906,-0.0087795,0.000801,0.002651,-0.0113765
Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Paleo-Balkan:BGR_IA,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Greek:GRC_Mycenaean,0.107847,0.1563915,-0.008108,-0.0646808,0.0216962,-0.0271222,-0.0005288,-0.0021345,0.00542,0.047336,0.005521,0.0169352,-0.012785,-0.0006195,-0.0163882,-0.0098118,0.0210245,0.0036108,0.0123188,-0.0039705,-0.0058648,0.0001858,-0.0065935,0.0011448,-0.0007185
Greek:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2,0.118376,0.158423 ,-0.009051,-0.0670225,0.0252355,-0.027889,0.001645,-0.005077,0.0049085,0.042552,0.002842,0.01124,-0.016873,0.003578,-0.018526,-0.0157785,0.0035855,0.0003805,0.004588,-0.0126935,-0.008298,0.001546,0.001664,0.0071095,-0.008502
Roman:DEU_Roman,0.117238,0.151314,0.045254,0.00032 3,0.052317,0.001952,0.0047,-0.006,0.01943,0.028064,-0.002436,0.004946,-0.017393,-0.013212,-0.004614,0.00411,0.009388,0.006334,-0.000377,5e-04,0.000624,0.001484,-0.000616,-0.00735,-0.001796
Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial,0.1027016,0.1489866,-0.0237507,-0.0575546,0.0043725,-0.0203241,-0.0013366,-0.0049469,0.0004219,0.019336,0.0032343,0.0023073,-0.0039209,-0.0015167,-0.008033,-0.0017982,0.003773,0.0005358,0.0013329,-0.0030926,-0.0024437,0.0018729,-0.0008961,-0.0004869,0.0005663
Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA,0.125205,0.147252,0. 045254,0.005814,0.044931,0.005578,-0.00094,0.003461,0.023725,0.039363,-0.004547,0.008992,-0.021407,-0.014726,0.012893,-0.001989,-0.001043,0.006208,0.003017,-0.003252,0.004742,0.002844,-0.006286,-0.000241,-0.002036
Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA,0.126344,0.1533 45,0.035072,-0.014858,0.052317,-0.013387,-0.00094,0.003461,0.020452,0.04155,0.004222,0.01004 1,-0.013528,-0.008808,0.007465,-0.015646,-0.011995,-0.003041,0.004902,-0.012631,0.007861,0.006306,-0.007641,-0.001325,0.008023
Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA,0.127482,0.148267,0.03469 5,-0.017442,0.043085,-0.005578,-0.002115,-0.003231,0.024952,0.051391,-0.001461,0.013488,-0.034043,-0.010184,-0.008415,0.011535,0.018515,-0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,0.003244,-0.001731,0.002588,-0.006266,-0.007544
Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA,0.133173,0.156392,0.0441 23,-0.010336,0.046778,-0.004741,0.008225,0.004154,0.023725,0.044283,-0.004222,0.01109,-0.02215,-0.011147,-0.006243,-0.006099,0.002738,-0.000127,0.004902,-0.004252,-0.009109,0.004328,-0.003081,-0.009519,-0.002874
Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany,0.12862,0.1376045,0.07 05215,0.034238,0.0481625,0.004044,0.0019975,0.0013 85,0.018509,0.019955,-0.012017,-0.0052455,-0.00944,0.0006195,0.0095685,-0.0013255,-0.005998,0.001774,0.0048395,0.0080665,0.001061,0.0 019785,-0.0006165,-0.005422,-0.0034725
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78,0.132035,0.135065,0.04 6386,0.034238,0.036314,0.003626,0.002585,0.005769, 0.005318,0.010023,0.001299,0.011839,-0.016947,-0.015001,0.017236,0.015115,0.021513,0.005828,0.003 268,0.003252,0.006239,-0.002102,0.001109,-0.002651,-0.001676
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119,0.121791,0.140143,0.0 5242,0.026486,0.040623,0.003068,0.001175,0.001154, 0.003477,0.017859,-0.001299,0.01124,-0.020961,-0.019818,0.01045,0.02201,0.01708,-0.0019,0.009679,0.002376,0.007986,0.003957,-0.005053,0.000964,0.008382
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2,0.124067,0.140143,0.056 191,0.041021,0.042162,0.016455,-0.003055,0.002077,0.014112,0.018406,0.002273,0.006 744,-0.020218,-0.000413,0.011672,0.001591,-0.008996,-0.006334,0.013073,0.012631,0.006988,0.00371,0.0014 79,-0.005422,-0.00467
Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA,0.127482,0.156392,0.047894,0.0 05491,0.04647,-0.011435,0.00329,0.011538,0.010022,0.031345,0.0064 96,0.012889,-0.012487,-0.01156,-0.0095,0.000796,0.001565,-0.003801,-0.005656,0.005753,-0.002995,0.009521,-0.001356,-0.006386,-0.011855
TARGET:
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ11,0.134311,0.137096,0.058454,0.04 7481,0.038776,0.02008,0.00752,0.002308,-0.004704,-0.008747,-0.005196,0.006894,-0.010406,-0.006744,0.015201,0.012729,0.004824,0.000253,0.000 503,0.004502,0.000125,0.004328,-0.001109,0.011688,-0.005508
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ12,0.135449,0.135065,0.060339,0.04 8127,0.047393,0.015339,0.0047,0.005307,-0.001227,-0.002916,-0.007632,0.002398,0.000149,-0.006468,0.019272,0.002387,-0.000522,-0.003801,0.003017,0.007754,0.010606,0.005564,-0.00456,-0.001928,-0.001437
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ13,0.133173,0.133034,0.065996,0.05 9109,0.041238,0.017012,0.00423,0.001154,-0.005522,-0.004191,-0.007632,0.007493,-0.008622,-0.004542,0.016422,0.006232,0.001043,-0.002407,0.007165,0.002876,0.015473,0.014715,0.003 328,0.01458,0.000359
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ14,0.119514,0.144205,0.053551,0.03 6176,0.035391,0.008088,0.00047,0.007615,-0.001432,0.001276,-0.007307,0.013038,-0.014271,-0.017753,0.014386,-0.001724,-0.015646,-0.005194,0.014832,-0.005127,-0.001996,0.006554,-0.009244,0.011809,0.004191
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ15,0.138864,0.116786,0.058454,0.04 2959,0.036314,0.024821,0.00235,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ16,0.133173,0.128972,0.068259,0.06 2662,0.035699,0.019522,0.002585,0.009923,0.001432,-0.005832,0.001137,0.008992,-0.005946,-0.006881,0.024158,0.006232,-0.008084,-0.000253,-0.003017,0.009004,0.003244,0.005193,0.001109,0.014 219,0.003353
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ18,0.126344,0.14319,0.042238,0.015 827,0.032929,0.00502,0.00611,0.000692,0.000205,0.0 10752,-0.002273,0.002698,-0.000446,-0.001789,-0.003393,0.009149,-0.004563,0.006714,0.015461,-0.005628,-0.001747,-0.002473,0.000246,0.010724,0.004191
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ2,0.122929,0.139128,0.070144,0.067 184,0.038469,0.018128,0.00611,0.006461,-0.000205,-0.009294,-0.000974,-0.00015,-0.008474,-0.00055,0.017372,-0.006629,-0.022296,0.005954,0.005908,-0.004627,0.015597,0.000742,0.007395,0.008555,0.002 634
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ22,0.130897,0.131003,0.057699,0.06 137,0.044008,0.011713,0.00517,0.002538,-0.000409,0.000547,-0.012991,0.005845,-0.004906,-0.010735,0.010586,0.012463,0.000782,-0.003801,0.002891,0.012381,0.009109,0.004328,-0.004314,0.005663,0.003952
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ23,0.12862,0.140143,0.053174,0.035 853,0.037853,0.002231,0.002115,0.006231,0.002863,0 .007836,-0.010393,-0.003297,-0.005798,-0.010735,0.006379,0.009679,-0.004042,0.003421,0.005279,-5e-04,-0.002121,0.007666,0.004067,0.011688,0.000479
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ24,0.134311,0.132019,0.053551,0.04 0698,0.038776,0.010598,-0.00282,0.000692,0.001023,-0.001458,-0.010068,0.002997,-0.013379,0.001514,0.013843,0.019225,-0.00013,-0.005068,0.002137,0.009129,-0.007612,0.005935,0.001849,0.008796,-0.001078
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ27,0.118376,0.14319,0.032432,0.011 305,0.026159,0.004462,0.00047,-0.004384,0.001023,0.008565,-0.006983,0.002847,-0.010852,-0.011285,0.005022,0.003845,0.005737,0.004434,0.009 93,0.004252,-0.000749,-0.002226,0.008258,0.009158,-0.008622
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ28,0.124067,0.148267,0.029793,-0.008075,0.032006,-0.006972,0.00047,-0.003461,0.015339,0.032074,-0.004547,0.007493,-0.014569,0.002064,-0.005293,0.000928,0.006389,0.00266,0.006662,-0.004627,0.004742,0.002226,-0.005176,-0.00494,-0.001557
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ3,0.132035,0.141159,0.04978,0.0358 53,0.038776,0.01255,0.00235,0.006231,0.006749,0.01 549,-0.003248,0.01109,-0.015907,-0.000688,0.005293,0.018563,0.023208,0.005954,0.004 902,-0.001376,0.001747,0.009521,0.001109,0.014942,-0.003592
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ30,0.125205,0.125926,0.056191,0.03 8114,0.03693,0.021753,-0.00094,0.010615,0.00409,0.003827,-0.014128,0.001798,-0.013974,-0.008257,0.021715,-0.010342,-0.023991,-0.00266,0.01169,0.002126,0.016596,0.002844,-0.00037,0.017111,0.000239
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ32,0.111547,0.157407,0.015085,-0.024871,0.026466,-0.015618,0.00141,-0.002308,0.005727,0.019135,0.002598,0.001798,-0.011298,-0.008808,-0.004072,0.002784,0.003651,0.001014,-0.000126,-0.002001,-0.006239,0.000495,0.00456,-0.01458,-0.001916
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ36,0.117238,0.148267,0.011691,-0.025517,0.028313,-0.010319,0.003525,0.006923,0.00225,0.02041,0.00308 5,-0.000599,-0.009663,-0.004679,-0.001357,0.005834,0.00326,-0.000887,0.000377,0.001501,-0.008111,0.004451,0.006779,0.001566,-0.000479
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37,0.118376,0.139128,0.014708,-0.012597,0.01231,-0.006414,-0.004935,0.011769,0.004704,0.013121,-0.003735,0.004796,-0.013379,-0.001514,-0.008143,-0.00053,-0.00326,-0.005574,0.01257,-0.002626,-0.006738,0.006306,-0.000246,0.001807,-0.006706
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ38,0.12862,0.140143,0.057322,0.035 53,0.042162,0.016176,0.00047,-0.000923,0.003681,0.006378,-0.000812,0.003597,-0.011298,-0.00867,0.006786,0.001724,-0.017993,0.001774,0.003645,0.003126,0.010232,0.009 027,0.000123,0.011447,0.003473
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4,0.134311,0.133034,0.064488,0.056 525,0.035699,0.021196,0.011751,0.007154,-0.001841,0.004191,-0.005846,0.001649,-0.013082,-0.001376,0.026465,-0.002519,-0.024121,0.004687,0.00176,-0.004002,0.006988,0.007543,0.004067,0.013737,0.001 796
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ40,0.108132,0.149283,0.00264,-0.037791,0.018157,-0.010598,0.00094,-0.014538,0.003477,0.026789,-0.002436,0.008243,-0.007582,-0.008945,-0.00285,0.005304,0.020731,-0.003927,-0.000377,0.000375,-0.011355,0.00507,0.002218,0.00482,-0.005149
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ42,0.130897,0.14319,0.057699,0.038 114,0.035699,0.012271,0.005405,-0.000231,-0.004704,-0.006196,-0.000487,0.005695,-0.00773,-0.005505,0.014929,0.005038,-0.003781,0.003801,0.011439,0.005378,0.007362,0.001 978,-0.002588,0.007712,-0.001796
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ43,0.122929,0.145221,0.01697,-0.019057,0.030775,-0.01506,-0.004465,-0.004154,0.009613,0.020775,0.002436,0.005545,-0.011596,-0.007019,0.00095,-0.006364,0.011343,0.000507,0.005656,-0.00075,-0.006239,0.000989,0.004314,0.006145,-0.001078
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ45,0.117238,0.141159,0.039598,0.01 3566,0.035699,0.008646,0.00846,0.00923,0.005113,0. 014214,-0.001137,-0.001199,-0.013379,-0.003165,0.004072,0.003845,-0.000652,-0.000507,0.004148,0.004377,0.002246,0.001855,-0.00419,0.005181,-0.003473
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ5,0.125205,0.133034,0.048649,0.034 238,0.036007,0.001394,0.003995,0.003,-0.001636,0.004009,-0.005521,-0.000599,-0.005798,-0.012524,-0.000814,0.015513,0.01356,-0.003294,0.005154,0.002751,-0.003619,0.002349,0.003451,0.008796,-0.004311
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ7,0.135449,0.135065,0.066373,0.062 016,0.035083,0.01255,0.00611,0.005307,0.003272,0,-0.011205,3e-04,-0.007433,-0.010322,0.018729,0.002784,-0.005476,0.000127,0.001885,0.002376,0.009234,0.007 419,0.001602,0.015785,-0.001197
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ8,0.125205,0.153345,0.054682,0.047 804,0.038776,0.015339,-0.000235,0.001385,0.009613,0.002551,0.002598,0.012 589,-0.010555,-0.013074,0.013843,-0.010077,-0.008475,0.013936,0.004274,0.000625,0.004742,-0.00779,-0.007272,0.00482,-0.005029
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ9,0.138864,0.125926,0.069013,0.066 861,0.036622,0.03012,0.00188,0.011999,0.011658,-0.000547,-0.011692,0.003597,-0.008176,-0.003716,0.029994,-0.001193,-0.00665,0.001394,0.00088,0.007629,0.011355,0.00581 2,-0.003451,0.014942,-0.001796
HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19,0.120652,0.167562,0.012822,-0.045866,0.035391,-0.022869,-0.00047,-0.000923,0.001023,0.045559,0.007145,0.01079,-0.013528,0.007844,-0.014115,-0.018297,-0.003129,0.003421,0.008547,-0.016258,-0.010232,0.003462,0.005793,0.007832,0.001317
On the left their G25 results, on the right my predictions from before we had Roman DNA:
SZ36 = I predicted as Roman, turns out correct
SZ37 = I predicted as Roman, turns out correct
SZ43 = I predicted as Roman, turns out a Roman-Greek-Celtic mix
SZ40 = I predicted as Greek, turns out Imperial Roman (similar!)
SZ28 = I predicted as Roman, turns out correct
SZ19 = I predicted as Greek, turns out correct
https://i.imgur.com/K3isp18.png
Coastal Elite
11-15-2019, 09:20 PM
These codes are great.
https://i.imgur.com/Hr0qneA.jpg
Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
0.04137009 Celtic: DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.04593280 Celtic: DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.04631012 Germanic: DEU_MA
0.04759063 Celtic: DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.05029466 Celtic: CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05458717 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.05771696 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.05873969 Celtic: DEU_Lech_MBA
0.05875933 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.05977118 Germanic: SWE_IA
0.06036753 Germanic: DNK_BA
0.06974852 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.07634531 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.08061514 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.08556223 Slavic: HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.10079358 Paleo-Balkan:BGR_IA
0.12044158 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.12488589 Greek:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
0.12686808 Greek:GRC_Mycenaean
Peterski
11-15-2019, 09:22 PM
These codes are great.
https://i.imgur.com/Hr0qneA.jpg
Not much Roman for someone half Romanian? And British-Irish populations are missing from the model.
Adamastor
11-15-2019, 09:25 PM
Not much Roman for someone half Romanian? And British-Irish populations are missing from the model.
Romanians barely have admixture from actual Romans. They are as Roman genetically as Haitians are French.
Peterski
11-15-2019, 09:31 PM
Romanians barely have admixture from actual Romans.
But the lack of British-Irish populations is still a problem - that's why his Germanic is inflated.
Pre-Germanic British samples like LBA Scotland etc. need to be added to the model for him.
Soon we'll have Gaels on G25.
Coastal Elite
11-15-2019, 09:35 PM
Not much Roman for someone half Romanian? And British-Irish populations are missing from the model.
As I always said, we're mostly pure Dacians, little Roman input. :)
Nurzat
11-15-2019, 09:39 PM
Romanians barely have admixture from actual Romans. They are as Roman genetically as Haitians are French.
Nurzat
55.2% Slavic_HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
19.2% Roman_ITA_Rome_Imperial
13.8% Paleo-Balkan_BGR_IA
9.6% Germanic_DEU_MA
1.8% Celtic_DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.4% Celtic_DEU_Lech_MBA
Distance to: Nurzat
0.05688097 Germanic_DEU_MA
0.05925844 Celtic_CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.06063097 Celtic_DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.06394734 Celtic_DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.06564807 Germanic_SWE_IA
0.06755565 Germanic_DNK_BA
0.06815486 Celtic_DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119
0.06829755 Slavic_HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.07084296 Roman_DEU_Roman
0.07161366 Celtic_DEU_Lech_MBA
0.07603763 Paleo-Balkan_HRV_IA
0.07842448 Roman_ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.08560667 Roman_ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.09533930 Roman_ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.09774487 Roman_ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.10963975 Paleo-Balkan_BGR_IA
0.12544763 Roman_ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.13358607 Greek_Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
0.13511851 Greek_GRC_Mycenaean
Samnium
11-15-2019, 09:41 PM
As I always said, we're mostly pure Dacians, little Roman input. :)
Romans culturally though.
You won't escape the I M P E R I V M .
Samnium
11-15-2019, 09:42 PM
Nurzat
55.2% Slavic_HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
19.2% Roman_ITA_Rome_Imperial
13.8% Paleo-Balkan_BGR_IA
9.6% Germanic_DEU_MA
1.8% Celtic_DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.4% Celtic_DEU_Lech_MBA
Distance to: Nurzat
0.05688097 Germanic_DEU_MA
0.05925844 Celtic_CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.06063097 Celtic_DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.06394734 Celtic_DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.06564807 Germanic_SWE_IA
0.06755565 Germanic_DNK_BA
0.06815486 Celtic_DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119
0.06829755 Slavic_HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.07084296 Roman_DEU_Roman
0.07161366 Celtic_DEU_Lech_MBA
0.07603763 Paleo-Balkan_HRV_IA
0.07842448 Roman_ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.08560667 Roman_ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.09533930 Roman_ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.09774487 Roman_ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.10963975 Paleo-Balkan_BGR_IA
0.12544763 Roman_ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.13358607 Greek_Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
0.13511851 Greek_GRC_Mycenaean
Roman Imperial is basically a proxy for "East-Med" admixture, we are talking about the Iron Age romans.
Peterski
11-15-2019, 09:44 PM
Nurzat
55.2% Slavic_HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
19.2% Roman_ITA_Rome_Imperial
13.8% Paleo-Balkan_BGR_IA
9.6% Germanic_DEU_MA
1.8% Celtic_DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.4% Celtic_DEU_Lech_MBA
Distance to: Nurzat
0.05688097 Germanic_DEU_MA
0.05925844 Celtic_CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.06063097 Celtic_DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.06394734 Celtic_DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.06564807 Germanic_SWE_IA
0.06755565 Germanic_DNK_BA
0.06815486 Celtic_DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119
0.06829755 Slavic_HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.07084296 Roman_DEU_Roman
0.07161366 Celtic_DEU_Lech_MBA
0.07603763 Paleo-Balkan_HRV_IA
0.07842448 Roman_ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.08560667 Roman_ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.09533930 Roman_ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.09774487 Roman_ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.10963975 Paleo-Balkan_BGR_IA
0.12544763 Roman_ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.13358607 Greek_Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
0.13511851 Greek_GRC_Mycenaean
^^^
Pretty high Roman! But also high Slavic. Are you fully Romanian?
Roman Imperial is basically a proxy for "East-Med" admixture, we are talking about the Iron Age romans.
But Dacia was conquered during Imperial times already.
While for example Gaul or Britain were conquered earlier.
Coastal Elite
11-15-2019, 09:45 PM
Romans culturally though.
You won't escape the I M P E R I V M .
The language for sure. I don't mind the Latin influence, the romance languages sound better IMO.
andre
11-15-2019, 09:45 PM
This is how I predicted ethnicity of Szolad samples based on their results few months ago:
https://i.imgur.com/pKzwdIJ.png
^^^
And this is how they are modelled now in G25 with new Roman samples used in the models:
SOURCE:
Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081 458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0. 004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
Germanic:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048 773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.001329 5,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Germanic:SWE_IA,0.122929,0.123895,0.067127,0.05846 3,0.041238,0.02008,0.005875,0.007615,0.002863,-0.009659,0.003735,0.001948,-0.006987,0.003853,0.020358,-0.006762,-0.015385,0.006461,0.009427,0.00025,0.00025,0.00284 4,0.002465,0.011447,0.000359
Germanic:DNK_BA,0.1160995,0.1370965,0.0633565,0.05 24875,0.0296975,0.0301205,0.011163,-0.005192,-0.0072605,-0.003827,-0.002923,0.0089175,-0.004683,-0.0161015,0.0138435,0.0041765,0.00678,0.009565,0.0 152095,0.0046275,0.017906,-0.0087795,0.000801,0.002651,-0.0113765
Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA,0.132035,0.151314,0.033941,-0.01615,0.024928,-0.005857,-0.006345,0.007154,0.003681,0.028976,0.001786,0.011 69,-0.02111,-0.001376,-0.005972,-0.008486,-0.006519,0.004941,0.005531,-0.014257,-0.001872,0.00507,0.001479,0.00253,0.003353
Paleo-Balkan:BGR_IA,0.126344,0.157407,0.007165,-0.051034,0.029852,-0.02259,0.00423,-0.001385,0.007772,0.032074,-0.001461,0.005695,-0.013974,-0.003028,-0.015065,-0.001458,0.01369,0.006968,0.006285,-0.014757,-0.006239,0.004699,-0.007888,0.003494,-0.008861
Greek:GRC_Mycenaean,0.107847,0.1563915,-0.008108,-0.0646808,0.0216962,-0.0271222,-0.0005288,-0.0021345,0.00542,0.047336,0.005521,0.0169352,-0.012785,-0.0006195,-0.0163882,-0.0098118,0.0210245,0.0036108,0.0123188,-0.0039705,-0.0058648,0.0001858,-0.0065935,0.0011448,-0.0007185
Greek:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2,0.118376,0.158423 ,-0.009051,-0.0670225,0.0252355,-0.027889,0.001645,-0.005077,0.0049085,0.042552,0.002842,0.01124,-0.016873,0.003578,-0.018526,-0.0157785,0.0035855,0.0003805,0.004588,-0.0126935,-0.008298,0.001546,0.001664,0.0071095,-0.008502
Roman:DEU_Roman,0.117238,0.151314,0.045254,0.00032 3,0.052317,0.001952,0.0047,-0.006,0.01943,0.028064,-0.002436,0.004946,-0.017393,-0.013212,-0.004614,0.00411,0.009388,0.006334,-0.000377,5e-04,0.000624,0.001484,-0.000616,-0.00735,-0.001796
Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial,0.1027016,0.1489866,-0.0237507,-0.0575546,0.0043725,-0.0203241,-0.0013366,-0.0049469,0.0004219,0.019336,0.0032343,0.0023073,-0.0039209,-0.0015167,-0.008033,-0.0017982,0.003773,0.0005358,0.0013329,-0.0030926,-0.0024437,0.0018729,-0.0008961,-0.0004869,0.0005663
Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA,0.125205,0.147252,0. 045254,0.005814,0.044931,0.005578,-0.00094,0.003461,0.023725,0.039363,-0.004547,0.008992,-0.021407,-0.014726,0.012893,-0.001989,-0.001043,0.006208,0.003017,-0.003252,0.004742,0.002844,-0.006286,-0.000241,-0.002036
Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA,0.126344,0.1533 45,0.035072,-0.014858,0.052317,-0.013387,-0.00094,0.003461,0.020452,0.04155,0.004222,0.01004 1,-0.013528,-0.008808,0.007465,-0.015646,-0.011995,-0.003041,0.004902,-0.012631,0.007861,0.006306,-0.007641,-0.001325,0.008023
Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA,0.127482,0.148267,0.03469 5,-0.017442,0.043085,-0.005578,-0.002115,-0.003231,0.024952,0.051391,-0.001461,0.013488,-0.034043,-0.010184,-0.008415,0.011535,0.018515,-0.003674,0.005405,0.004377,0.003244,-0.001731,0.002588,-0.006266,-0.007544
Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA,0.133173,0.156392,0.0441 23,-0.010336,0.046778,-0.004741,0.008225,0.004154,0.023725,0.044283,-0.004222,0.01109,-0.02215,-0.011147,-0.006243,-0.006099,0.002738,-0.000127,0.004902,-0.004252,-0.009109,0.004328,-0.003081,-0.009519,-0.002874
Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany,0.12862,0.1376045,0.07 05215,0.034238,0.0481625,0.004044,0.0019975,0.0013 85,0.018509,0.019955,-0.012017,-0.0052455,-0.00944,0.0006195,0.0095685,-0.0013255,-0.005998,0.001774,0.0048395,0.0080665,0.001061,0.0 019785,-0.0006165,-0.005422,-0.0034725
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78,0.132035,0.135065,0.04 6386,0.034238,0.036314,0.003626,0.002585,0.005769, 0.005318,0.010023,0.001299,0.011839,-0.016947,-0.015001,0.017236,0.015115,0.021513,0.005828,0.003 268,0.003252,0.006239,-0.002102,0.001109,-0.002651,-0.001676
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119,0.121791,0.140143,0.0 5242,0.026486,0.040623,0.003068,0.001175,0.001154, 0.003477,0.017859,-0.001299,0.01124,-0.020961,-0.019818,0.01045,0.02201,0.01708,-0.0019,0.009679,0.002376,0.007986,0.003957,-0.005053,0.000964,0.008382
Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2,0.124067,0.140143,0.056 191,0.041021,0.042162,0.016455,-0.003055,0.002077,0.014112,0.018406,0.002273,0.006 744,-0.020218,-0.000413,0.011672,0.001591,-0.008996,-0.006334,0.013073,0.012631,0.006988,0.00371,0.0014 79,-0.005422,-0.00467
Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA,0.127482,0.156392,0.047894,0.0 05491,0.04647,-0.011435,0.00329,0.011538,0.010022,0.031345,0.0064 96,0.012889,-0.012487,-0.01156,-0.0095,0.000796,0.001565,-0.003801,-0.005656,0.005753,-0.002995,0.009521,-0.001356,-0.006386,-0.011855
TARGET:
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ11,0.134311,0.137096,0.058454,0.04 7481,0.038776,0.02008,0.00752,0.002308,-0.004704,-0.008747,-0.005196,0.006894,-0.010406,-0.006744,0.015201,0.012729,0.004824,0.000253,0.000 503,0.004502,0.000125,0.004328,-0.001109,0.011688,-0.005508
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ12,0.135449,0.135065,0.060339,0.04 8127,0.047393,0.015339,0.0047,0.005307,-0.001227,-0.002916,-0.007632,0.002398,0.000149,-0.006468,0.019272,0.002387,-0.000522,-0.003801,0.003017,0.007754,0.010606,0.005564,-0.00456,-0.001928,-0.001437
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ13,0.133173,0.133034,0.065996,0.05 9109,0.041238,0.017012,0.00423,0.001154,-0.005522,-0.004191,-0.007632,0.007493,-0.008622,-0.004542,0.016422,0.006232,0.001043,-0.002407,0.007165,0.002876,0.015473,0.014715,0.003 328,0.01458,0.000359
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ14,0.119514,0.144205,0.053551,0.03 6176,0.035391,0.008088,0.00047,0.007615,-0.001432,0.001276,-0.007307,0.013038,-0.014271,-0.017753,0.014386,-0.001724,-0.015646,-0.005194,0.014832,-0.005127,-0.001996,0.006554,-0.009244,0.011809,0.004191
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ15,0.138864,0.116786,0.058454,0.04 2959,0.036314,0.024821,0.00235,0.010153,0.001227,-0.003827,0.001949,0.001948,-0.013082,-0.015276,0.016558,0.017634,0.012517,0.000127,0.013 073,0.013006,0.003993,0.00272,-0.002342,0.025064,-0.004191
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ16,0.133173,0.128972,0.068259,0.06 2662,0.035699,0.019522,0.002585,0.009923,0.001432,-0.005832,0.001137,0.008992,-0.005946,-0.006881,0.024158,0.006232,-0.008084,-0.000253,-0.003017,0.009004,0.003244,0.005193,0.001109,0.014 219,0.003353
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ18,0.126344,0.14319,0.042238,0.015 827,0.032929,0.00502,0.00611,0.000692,0.000205,0.0 10752,-0.002273,0.002698,-0.000446,-0.001789,-0.003393,0.009149,-0.004563,0.006714,0.015461,-0.005628,-0.001747,-0.002473,0.000246,0.010724,0.004191
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ2,0.122929,0.139128,0.070144,0.067 184,0.038469,0.018128,0.00611,0.006461,-0.000205,-0.009294,-0.000974,-0.00015,-0.008474,-0.00055,0.017372,-0.006629,-0.022296,0.005954,0.005908,-0.004627,0.015597,0.000742,0.007395,0.008555,0.002 634
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ22,0.130897,0.131003,0.057699,0.06 137,0.044008,0.011713,0.00517,0.002538,-0.000409,0.000547,-0.012991,0.005845,-0.004906,-0.010735,0.010586,0.012463,0.000782,-0.003801,0.002891,0.012381,0.009109,0.004328,-0.004314,0.005663,0.003952
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ23,0.12862,0.140143,0.053174,0.035 853,0.037853,0.002231,0.002115,0.006231,0.002863,0 .007836,-0.010393,-0.003297,-0.005798,-0.010735,0.006379,0.009679,-0.004042,0.003421,0.005279,-5e-04,-0.002121,0.007666,0.004067,0.011688,0.000479
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ24,0.134311,0.132019,0.053551,0.04 0698,0.038776,0.010598,-0.00282,0.000692,0.001023,-0.001458,-0.010068,0.002997,-0.013379,0.001514,0.013843,0.019225,-0.00013,-0.005068,0.002137,0.009129,-0.007612,0.005935,0.001849,0.008796,-0.001078
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ27,0.118376,0.14319,0.032432,0.011 305,0.026159,0.004462,0.00047,-0.004384,0.001023,0.008565,-0.006983,0.002847,-0.010852,-0.011285,0.005022,0.003845,0.005737,0.004434,0.009 93,0.004252,-0.000749,-0.002226,0.008258,0.009158,-0.008622
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ28,0.124067,0.148267,0.029793,-0.008075,0.032006,-0.006972,0.00047,-0.003461,0.015339,0.032074,-0.004547,0.007493,-0.014569,0.002064,-0.005293,0.000928,0.006389,0.00266,0.006662,-0.004627,0.004742,0.002226,-0.005176,-0.00494,-0.001557
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ3,0.132035,0.141159,0.04978,0.0358 53,0.038776,0.01255,0.00235,0.006231,0.006749,0.01 549,-0.003248,0.01109,-0.015907,-0.000688,0.005293,0.018563,0.023208,0.005954,0.004 902,-0.001376,0.001747,0.009521,0.001109,0.014942,-0.003592
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ30,0.125205,0.125926,0.056191,0.03 8114,0.03693,0.021753,-0.00094,0.010615,0.00409,0.003827,-0.014128,0.001798,-0.013974,-0.008257,0.021715,-0.010342,-0.023991,-0.00266,0.01169,0.002126,0.016596,0.002844,-0.00037,0.017111,0.000239
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ32,0.111547,0.157407,0.015085,-0.024871,0.026466,-0.015618,0.00141,-0.002308,0.005727,0.019135,0.002598,0.001798,-0.011298,-0.008808,-0.004072,0.002784,0.003651,0.001014,-0.000126,-0.002001,-0.006239,0.000495,0.00456,-0.01458,-0.001916
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ36,0.117238,0.148267,0.011691,-0.025517,0.028313,-0.010319,0.003525,0.006923,0.00225,0.02041,0.00308 5,-0.000599,-0.009663,-0.004679,-0.001357,0.005834,0.00326,-0.000887,0.000377,0.001501,-0.008111,0.004451,0.006779,0.001566,-0.000479
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37,0.118376,0.139128,0.014708,-0.012597,0.01231,-0.006414,-0.004935,0.011769,0.004704,0.013121,-0.003735,0.004796,-0.013379,-0.001514,-0.008143,-0.00053,-0.00326,-0.005574,0.01257,-0.002626,-0.006738,0.006306,-0.000246,0.001807,-0.006706
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ38,0.12862,0.140143,0.057322,0.035 53,0.042162,0.016176,0.00047,-0.000923,0.003681,0.006378,-0.000812,0.003597,-0.011298,-0.00867,0.006786,0.001724,-0.017993,0.001774,0.003645,0.003126,0.010232,0.009 027,0.000123,0.011447,0.003473
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ4,0.134311,0.133034,0.064488,0.056 525,0.035699,0.021196,0.011751,0.007154,-0.001841,0.004191,-0.005846,0.001649,-0.013082,-0.001376,0.026465,-0.002519,-0.024121,0.004687,0.00176,-0.004002,0.006988,0.007543,0.004067,0.013737,0.001 796
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ40,0.108132,0.149283,0.00264,-0.037791,0.018157,-0.010598,0.00094,-0.014538,0.003477,0.026789,-0.002436,0.008243,-0.007582,-0.008945,-0.00285,0.005304,0.020731,-0.003927,-0.000377,0.000375,-0.011355,0.00507,0.002218,0.00482,-0.005149
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ42,0.130897,0.14319,0.057699,0.038 114,0.035699,0.012271,0.005405,-0.000231,-0.004704,-0.006196,-0.000487,0.005695,-0.00773,-0.005505,0.014929,0.005038,-0.003781,0.003801,0.011439,0.005378,0.007362,0.001 978,-0.002588,0.007712,-0.001796
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ43,0.122929,0.145221,0.01697,-0.019057,0.030775,-0.01506,-0.004465,-0.004154,0.009613,0.020775,0.002436,0.005545,-0.011596,-0.007019,0.00095,-0.006364,0.011343,0.000507,0.005656,-0.00075,-0.006239,0.000989,0.004314,0.006145,-0.001078
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ45,0.117238,0.141159,0.039598,0.01 3566,0.035699,0.008646,0.00846,0.00923,0.005113,0. 014214,-0.001137,-0.001199,-0.013379,-0.003165,0.004072,0.003845,-0.000652,-0.000507,0.004148,0.004377,0.002246,0.001855,-0.00419,0.005181,-0.003473
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ5,0.125205,0.133034,0.048649,0.034 238,0.036007,0.001394,0.003995,0.003,-0.001636,0.004009,-0.005521,-0.000599,-0.005798,-0.012524,-0.000814,0.015513,0.01356,-0.003294,0.005154,0.002751,-0.003619,0.002349,0.003451,0.008796,-0.004311
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ7,0.135449,0.135065,0.066373,0.062 016,0.035083,0.01255,0.00611,0.005307,0.003272,0,-0.011205,3e-04,-0.007433,-0.010322,0.018729,0.002784,-0.005476,0.000127,0.001885,0.002376,0.009234,0.007 419,0.001602,0.015785,-0.001197
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ8,0.125205,0.153345,0.054682,0.047 804,0.038776,0.015339,-0.000235,0.001385,0.009613,0.002551,0.002598,0.012 589,-0.010555,-0.013074,0.013843,-0.010077,-0.008475,0.013936,0.004274,0.000625,0.004742,-0.00779,-0.007272,0.00482,-0.005029
HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ9,0.138864,0.125926,0.069013,0.066 861,0.036622,0.03012,0.00188,0.011999,0.011658,-0.000547,-0.011692,0.003597,-0.008176,-0.003716,0.029994,-0.001193,-0.00665,0.001394,0.00088,0.007629,0.011355,0.00581 2,-0.003451,0.014942,-0.001796
HUN_MA_Szolad_o1:SZ19,0.120652,0.167562,0.012822,-0.045866,0.035391,-0.022869,-0.00047,-0.000923,0.001023,0.045559,0.007145,0.01079,-0.013528,0.007844,-0.014115,-0.018297,-0.003129,0.003421,0.008547,-0.016258,-0.010232,0.003462,0.005793,0.007832,0.001317
On the left their G25 results, on the right my predictions from before we had Roman DNA:
SZ36 = I predicted as Roman, turns out correct
SZ37 = I predicted as Roman, turns out correct
SZ43 = I predicted as Roman, turns out a Roman-Greek-Celtic mix
SZ40 = I predicted as Greek, turns out Imperial Roman (similar!)
SZ28 = I predicted as Roman, turns out correct
SZ19 = I predicted as Greek, turns out correct
https://i.imgur.com/K3isp18.png
That’s nice! Someone could run it for me?
Andrei_scaled,0.122929,0.137096,0.039598,0.005168, 0.028313,-0.000558,0.008695,0.004846,-0.004295,0.00656,-0.001137,-0.002398,0.00669,0.018992,-0.018594,-0.011933,-0.011474,0.010008,0.00817,-0.012881,-0.00574,-0.000124,0.002958,-0.002048,-0.001916
Nurzat
11-15-2019, 09:47 PM
^^^
Pretty high Roman! But also high Slavic. Are you fully Romanian?
half Carpathian Ukrainian, half Moldovan (Romanian side)
That’s nice! Someone could run it for me?
Andrei_scaled,0.122929,0.137096,0.039598,0.005168, 0.028313,-0.000558,0.008695,0.004846,-0.004295,0.00656,-0.001137,-0.002398,0.00669,0.018992,-0.018594,-0.011933,-0.011474,0.010008,0.00817,-0.012881,-0.00574,-0.000124,0.002958,-0.002048,-0.001916
here:
Andre
48.8% Slavic_HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
39.2% Greek_Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
6.2% Roman_ITA_Rome_Imperial
5.8% Germanic_SWE_IA
Distance to: Andre
0.05767606 Paleo-Balkan_HRV_IA
0.06911567 Celtic_DEU_Lech_MBA
0.07029741 Roman_DEU_Roman
0.07252741 Celtic_CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.07680750 Germanic_DEU_MA
0.07705691 Roman_ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.07757833 Roman_ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.07776014 Roman_ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.07821857 Celtic_DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_2
0.08174168 Celtic_DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_78
0.08415113 Celtic_DEU_Lech_EBA_AITI_119
0.08445318 Germanic_SWE_IA
0.08914693 Paleo-Balkan_BGR_IA
0.09088727 Germanic_DNK_BA
0.09304542 Slavic_HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2
0.09441212 Roman_ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.10552405 Roman_ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.10871305 Greek_Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
0.11350250 Greek_GRC_Mycenaean
Tommie
11-15-2019, 09:49 PM
Romanians barely have admixture from actual Romans. They are as Roman genetically as Haitians are French.
Not true.
half Carpathian Ukrainian, half Moldovan (Romanian side)
Your Y-DNA is rather 'East Meddish' than from our side ;)
Samnium
11-15-2019, 09:53 PM
But Dacia was conquered during Imperial times already.
While for example Gaul or Britain were conquered earlier.
It wasn't conquered in Republican Times though, and the easternization probably began some centuries before the conquest of Romania. I'm talking about the old Iron Age Republican samples !
Nurzat
11-15-2019, 09:56 PM
Your Y-DNA is rather 'East Meddish' than from our side ;)
but I usually don't score East Med other than the component including Russians score. I mean I don't score the Red Sea or such. YDNA is irrelevant without traceable heritage. it's for populations study, not individual. the J2 is from my Slavic side, I bet my Moldovan side is R1a for all males (all my Moldovan friends that tested are R1a). my J2 is at some >10% in Ukraine, quite common. southern Russia I bet as well. Black Sea ancient spread most probably.
here's me and Andre, both from Moldova region:
https://scontent.fotp1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75311431_123821799057619_5428039342960410624_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=110&_nc_oc=AQmNL3ChKRY3kLsSpR12iwNvpZrOjIjwdZ8Iku9EIPz W4I6JroILiplaqEtw5uC00YA&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp1-1.fna&oh=34207c6df09322d23080a6f95168feae&oe=5E897FFB
https://scontent.fotp1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/78210649_123822382390894_8157576838655246336_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=110&_nc_oc=AQnYmaczzMdFSYQpIUPOda_hvULPH8HR1CIEHKXPepK wmuQrW5-ieVuo_Tf2Qfk5GyU&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp1-1.fna&oh=8ea99108327f16b5e36fdcfbb10f549e&oe=5E87B84D
but I usually don't score East Med other than the component including Russians score. I mean I don't score the Red Sea or such. YDNA is irrelevant without traceable heritage. it's for populations study, not individual. the J2 is from my Slavic side, I bet my Moldovan side is R1a for all males (all my Moldovan friends that tested are R1a). my J2 is at some >10% in Ukraine, quite common. southern Russia I bet as well. Black Sea ancient spread most probably.
Sure, I didn't mean anything like that.
andre
11-15-2019, 10:36 PM
but I usually don't score East Med other than the component including Russians score. I mean I don't score the Red Sea or such. YDNA is irrelevant without traceable heritage. it's for populations study, not individual. the J2 is from my Slavic side, I bet my Moldovan side is R1a for all males (all my Moldovan friends that tested are R1a). my J2 is at some >10% in Ukraine, quite common. southern Russia I bet as well. Black Sea ancient spread most probably.
here's me and Andre, both from Moldova region:
https://scontent.fotp1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75311431_123821799057619_5428039342960410624_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=110&_nc_oc=AQmNL3ChKRY3kLsSpR12iwNvpZrOjIjwdZ8Iku9EIPz W4I6JroILiplaqEtw5uC00YA&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp1-1.fna&oh=34207c6df09322d23080a6f95168feae&oe=5E897FFB
https://scontent.fotp1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/78210649_123822382390894_8157576838655246336_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=110&_nc_oc=AQnYmaczzMdFSYQpIUPOda_hvULPH8HR1CIEHKXPepK wmuQrW5-ieVuo_Tf2Qfk5GyU&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp1-1.fna&oh=8ea99108327f16b5e36fdcfbb10f549e&oe=5E87B84D
Run my coordinates with the roman-celtic-slavic etc model please.
Nurzat
11-15-2019, 10:44 PM
Sure, I didn't mean anything like that.
since me and Andre are from the same region, a model/comparison:
https://scontent.fotp1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/74589263_123829305723535_239643137708916736_n.jpg? _nc_cat=107&_nc_oc=AQlikSp9kp4ArMrPGtNhXemHFYBUdTPjnMF-Ulsq2tlrlfLdbysoJLAJTOkPeR5L5e8&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp1-1.fna&oh=2417927c04bcd3e6912bcbfe92ab803f&oe=5E8B2C70
andre
11-15-2019, 10:51 PM
since me and Andre are from the same region, a model/comparison:
https://scontent.fotp1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/74589263_123829305723535_239643137708916736_n.jpg? _nc_cat=107&_nc_oc=AQlikSp9kp4ArMrPGtNhXemHFYBUdTPjnMF-Ulsq2tlrlfLdbysoJLAJTOkPeR5L5e8&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp1-1.fna&oh=2417927c04bcd3e6912bcbfe92ab803f&oe=5E8B2C70
I have some finnish admix like hungarians
Nurzat
11-15-2019, 10:54 PM
Run my coordinates with the roman-celtic-slavic etc model please.
is this ok?
https://scontent.fotp1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/76648949_123830915723374_5328722733956071424_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=111&_nc_oc=AQlzLlf8Aag9WRhX4BAkvKunxCh-Ru8W7DHQcyQkRLUQOWq0C-_nrNVKBbD56vZbEQ0&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp1-1.fna&oh=2547b208e327c4fda7838b82f5908a41&oe=5E4A6D83
https://scontent.fotp1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75418994_123831249056674_8473881139688243200_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=104&_nc_oc=AQn8Ivy1ay_Z7EtSpe2aaYTtdkV7z8bPWqUv6kE-lxii0WHIwhvvLaJf1XzHDqLShAQ&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp1-2.fna&oh=74fdf4ddee18942232c20496637cef1b&oe=5E51A017
https://scontent.fotp1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/77357501_123831422389990_1943256574390697984_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=107&_nc_oc=AQmugM6Aeu3HP2z-ccNqeU9yepfb8RAeSQ97xobOO5Wj_tGa6BbKgegdqiw7qwMSjj E&_nc_ht=scontent.fotp1-1.fna&oh=e8d67867a8aeb8fd8246f1c2ec18496f&oe=5E425298
andre
11-15-2019, 10:57 PM
I‘m always amazed by the fact that I have absolutely no Celtic or Germanic admix.
What program is that? Is it run on the PC?
Nurzat
11-15-2019, 11:07 PM
I‘m always amazed by the fact that I have absolutely no Celtic or Germanic admix.
maybe nothing recent but I'm sure we all have all sorts of things back in time, which is anyway less and less relevant as you go farther back. after 5-6 generations you can have as little as 1-2% or even nothing left of the genes of your direct ancestor 200 years ago.
What program is that? Is it run on the PC?
https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/
Tommie
11-17-2019, 05:24 PM
Roman Imperial is basically a proxy for "East-Med" admixture, we are talking about the Iron Age romans.
Roman colonists came from all over the Empire.
According to this chart, Roman legions in Romania were
https://i.imgur.com/Exe47FY.jpg
Adamastor
11-17-2019, 05:27 PM
Roman colonists came from all over the Empire.
According to this chart, Roman legions in Romania were
https://i.imgur.com/Exe47FY.jpg
It just seems you guys have no actual Italic blood, that is what really counts as Roman.
Tommie
11-17-2019, 05:39 PM
It just seems you guys have no actual Italic blood, that is what really counts as Roman.
Most Romanians score varying amount of "Italian".
WeirdLookingFellow
11-17-2019, 05:50 PM
Most Romanians score varying amount of "Italian".
You'll need a damn good calculator / test to prove that. Especially since it's clear that Imperial Romans GTFO'd out of Italy when the barbarians came, Dacia was GTFO'd even faster and it could barely be kept as a colony; not to mention the fact that Romans didn't colonize more than half of what is actually Romanian territory now.
http://puu.sh/EFEXg/5c259fe532.png
Distance to: Insert_scaled
0.05859084 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.05860284 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.05914596 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.05927194 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05951685 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.05986370 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.06064060 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA
0.06426181 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.06735179 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.07078893 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.07216670 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.07523887 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.08154642 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.08233772 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.08449919 Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad:Av2
0.09562264 Paleo-Balkan:BGR_IA
0.11201994 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.11854959 Greek:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2
0.11856993 Greek:GRC_Mycenaean
lacreme
11-01-2020, 12:32 PM
Bump!
Does anyone have an archive of their results run through the various gedmatch calculators ? They have since been deleted from gedmatch and only some are available on the vahaduo versions of the calcs and even then not always the same samples across them...
I'm particularly interested in CL110 (and another one who was a family member of his if I recall correctly) for which I can only find the dodecad k12b coordinates.
thanks!
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