Northern France has a strong genetic component related to Late Bronze Age Scottish people

[Peterski]

Northern France has a strong genetic component related to Late Bronze Age inhabitants of Scotland.

This is best illustrated by the genetic similarity of this ancient Scottish sample to modern populations:

LBA stands for Late Bronze Age

https://i.imgur.com/nJbTEJq.png

I suspect once the "Genetic History of France" gets published, we will learn that some Gauls were genetically similar to Celts in Scotland.

We will also learn that the Roman conquest brought significant Mediterranean ancestry to Central France.

[billErobreren]

Now, this is a fascinating topic! Do dish

[Bellbeaking]

Why is there so little genetic data for France, modern or ancient? I wonder if there is political reasons, I mean France doesn't take demographic data as they do not believe in the idea of ethnic French. I am not suggesting their would be resistance to this kind of study, rather, that there would just be less enthusiasm of funding available for it. I hope one day we get Channel Island Data, but I doubt it. I could try and get my family to take DNA tests. I wonder to what extent we represent Pre-roman northern French? Perhaps not much due to Brittonic and Norman migration.

[Grace O'Malley]

Why is there so little genetic data for France, modern or ancient? I wonder if there is political reasons, I mean France doesn't take demographic data as they do not believe in the idea of ethnic French. I am not suggesting their would be resistance to this kind of study, rather, that there would just be less enthusiasm of funding available for it. I hope one day we get Channel Island Data, but I doubt it. I could try and get my family to take DNA tests. I wonder to what extent we represent Pre-roman northern French? Perhaps not much due to Brittonic and Norman migration.

Yes they would need to test ancient samples because the modern Bretons and Normans have had too much interaction with both Britain and Ireland and vice versa. So no good using moderns to compare.

[Rædwald]

https://i.imgur.com/vB9B5.gif

[billErobreren]

Why is there so little genetic data for France, modern or ancient? I wonder if there is political reasons, I mean France doesn't take demographic data as they do not believe in the idea of ethnic French. I am not suggesting their would be resistance to this kind of study, rather, that there would just be less enthusiasm of funding available for it. I hope one day we get Channel Island Data, but I doubt it. I could try and get my family to take DNA tests. I wonder to what extent we represent Pre-roman northern French? Perhaps not much due to Brittonic and Norman migration.

Unfortunately French now is now more a color blind civic nationality which makes this such pain to gauge. So, yeah perhaps testing a population like that of Jersey would seem like a good compromise

[Lucas]

Northern France has a strong genetic component related to Late Bronze Age inhabitants of Scotland.

This is best illustrated by the genetic similarity of this ancient Scottish sample to modern populations:

LBA stands for Late Bronze Age


I suspect once the "Genetic History of France" gets published, we will learn that some Gauls were genetically similar to Celts in Scotland.

We will also learn that the Roman conquest brought significant Mediterranean ancestry to Central France.

But you are aware of Britons migration to Brittany in VI century AD?

[billErobreren]

But you are aware of Britons migration to Brittany in VI century AD?

They also migrated into Galicia but Northern French people remain all too close British Celts as a whole to to simply credit some Britons' flight from the 5th and 6th centuries.

[dududud]

Cool.

[J. Ketch]

The Late Bronze Age Scotland samples on average are not so similar to Northern French though.

[Peterski]

But you are aware of Britons migration to Brittany in VI century AD?

Similarity to North-West France and Normandy is also equal or over 85.

[J. Ketch]

"sample": "Scotland_MBA:I2655",
"fit": 1.0365,
"Dutch": 72.5,
"German": 17.5,
"French": 5,
"Norwegian": 2.5,
"Swedish": 1.67,
"Belgian": 0.83,
"French_East": 0,
"closestDistances": [
"Swedish:Sweden9: 2.384922",
"Dutch:Netherlands21: 2.675591",
"Swedish:Sweden10: 2.676122",
"Swedish:Sweden4: 2.757275",
"Norwegian:NOR152: 2.894931",
"Dutch:Netherlands53: 2.952717",
"German:German76: 2.962981",
"Swedish:Sweden1: 2.969491",
"Dutch:Netherlands9: 3.010322",
"Norwegian:NOR108: 3.018899",


"sample": "Scotland_LBA:Average",
"fit": 1.229,
"Dutch": 40.83,
"German": 31.67,
"Norwegian": 11.67,
"French": 8.33,
"Swedish": 4.17,
"Belgian": 3.33,
"French_East": 0,
"closestDistances": [
"Dutch:Netherlands21: 2.721868",
"Norwegian:NOR101: 2.743729",
"Swedish:Sweden4: 2.797740",
"Norwegian:NOR108: 2.840415",
"Swedish:Sweden9: 2.878589",
"Norwegian:NOR107: 2.931436",

Doesn't look like much of a connection to me (Northernmost French on the bottom left in blue).
https://i.postimg.cc/LXbW14BV/SCOT-lba.png