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bained
05-15-2019, 10:49 AM
Hello, guys! I'm a long time reader, so I finally decided to share some values:
Y-haplo: I-Z17855*, mtDNA: X2f, Ancestry: Roman town, surrounded by Thracian temples and graves. Location: Plovdiv region. All 6 generations ago are from that region.
I recently saw the new Magyar paper and the chief had the same male and female haploshit, so I started reading forums again. Feel free to ask for other results or any questions.8794287941

Eurogenes K13
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 25.67
2 East_Med 22.31
3 Baltic 21.25
4 West_Med 18.04
5 West_Asian 8.82
6 Red_Sea 2.3
7 Amerindian 0.98
8 Oceanian 0.32
9 Siberian 0.26
10 Sub-Saharan 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5.37
2 Bulgarian 5.38
3 Serbian 8.31
4 Greek_Thessaly 8.61
5 Tuscan 11.68
6 North_Italian 12.4
7 Italian_Abruzzo 13.88
8 West_Sicilian 14.92
9 Moldavian 15.32
10 Central_Greek 15.36
11 Hungarian 15.89
12 East_Sicilian 16.36
13 Ashkenazi 17.47
14 Croatian 17.54
15 Austrian 17.8
16 Portuguese 18.19
17 French 18.59
18 South_Italian 19.12
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.16
20 Spanish_Extremadura 19.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.4% Ashkenazi + 46.6% East_German @ 2.64
2 60.2% Hungarian + 39.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.65
3 75.1% Serbian + 24.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.66
4 78.5% Greek_Thessaly + 21.5% North_Swedish @ 2.81
5 50.5% Ashkenazi + 49.5% Austrian @ 2.82
6 65.2% Serbian + 34.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.86
7 62.3% West_Sicilian + 37.7% South_Polish @ 2.88
8 60.7% Hungarian + 39.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.93
9 71.7% Romanian + 28.3% Tuscan @ 3
10 68.5% Greek_Thessaly + 31.5% Austrian @ 3.01
11 70.3% West_Sicilian + 29.7% Estonian @ 3.01
12 67.9% West_Sicilian + 32.1% Belorussian @ 3.03
13 66% Greek_Thessaly + 34% Hungarian @ 3.07
14 78.4% Greek_Thessaly + 21.6% Swedish @ 3.08
15 71.1% Greek_Thessaly + 28.9% East_German @ 3.11
16 54.8% Hungarian + 45.2% South_Italian @ 3.11
17 65.6% West_Sicilian + 34.4% Polish @ 3.14
18 75.8% Serbian + 24.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.16
19 52.5% Hungarian + 47.5% Ashkenazi @ 3.2
20 69.1% Serbian + 30.9% Ashkenazi @ 3.2

Eurogenes K15

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 19.12
2 Atlantic 18.93
3 North_Sea 14.53
4 Baltic 14.23
5 West_Med 13.31
6 Eastern_Euro 8.53
7 West_Asian 8.12
8 Red_Sea 2.66
9 Amerindian 0.46
10 Oceanian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.43
2 Romanian 6.21
3 Serbian 8.11
4 Greek 8.99
5 Greek_Thessaly 9.41
6 Tuscan 10.67
7 North_Italian 11.92
8 Italian_Abruzzo 12.6
9 West_Sicilian 13.38
10 Austrian 13.8
11 Central_Greek 14.18
12 Moldavian 14.39
13 Ashkenazi 14.4
14 East_Sicilian 14.84
15 Hungarian 15.11
16 Croatian 15.14
17 South_Italian 17.1
18 Portuguese 17.13
19 Spanish_Cataluna 17.45
20 Spanish_Extremadura 17.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.4% West_Sicilian + 35.6% Polish @ 2.5
2 62% West_Sicilian + 38% South_Polish @ 2.5
3 66.7% West_Sicilian + 33.3% Belorussian @ 2.58
4 69.4% West_Sicilian + 30.6% Lithuanian @ 2.61
5 68.6% West_Sicilian + 31.4% Estonian @ 2.74
6 64.8% West_Sicilian + 35.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.76
7 53.2% West_Sicilian + 46.8% Croatian @ 2.82
8 61.4% Greek + 38.6% Austrian @ 2.92
9 61.5% Austrian + 38.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.93
10 66.9% West_Sicilian + 33.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.95
11 62.9% West_Sicilian + 37.1% Ukrainian @ 2.95
12 74.8% Greek + 25.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.02
13 55.5% Austrian + 44.5% South_Italian @ 3.02
14 62% West_Sicilian + 38% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.07
15 65.7% West_Sicilian + 34.3% Southwest_Russian @ 3.15
16 60.3% Austrian + 39.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.21
17 76.5% Greek + 23.5% North_Swedish @ 3.29
18 65.4% West_Sicilian + 34.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.34
19 73.7% Greek + 26.3% North_German @ 3.41
20 68.7% Greek + 31.3% East_German @ 3.44

Kaspias
05-15-2019, 11:35 AM
Welcome to the forum. May i ask you where are you exactly from? I guess around Карлово?

Zzzzz
05-15-2019, 04:41 PM
Welcome, I guess you are from Хисаря. :)

Bosniensis
05-15-2019, 04:44 PM
Welcome to the forum ;P

bained
05-15-2019, 11:57 PM
Welcome to the forum. May i ask you where are you exactly from? I guess around Карлово?

Yep, in that range. I see you post a lot of other Bulgarian kits, do I differ a lot from them? On the maps I posted, I'm shifted towards Italy and even Friuli is 82 compared to 81 for BG. Can I claim my free macaroni?

Pribislav
05-16-2019, 12:07 AM
Welcome to the forum!

Post K12b Dodecad.

bained
05-16-2019, 12:21 AM
# Population Percent
1 North_European 33.21
2 Atlantic_Med 29.92
3 Caucasus 23.97
4 Southwest_Asian 6.04
5 Gedrosia 4.72
6 Northwest_African 1.87
7 Siberian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 7.36
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.31
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.43
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 11.96
5 N_Italian (Dodecad) 13.77
6 TSI30 (Metspalu) 15.81
7 Hungarians (Behar) 16.14
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.45
9 North_Italian (HGDP) 16.77
10 C_Italian (Dodecad) 17.26
11 Greek (Dodecad) 17.46
12 German (Dodecad) 19.49
13 French (Dodecad) 20.07
14 French (HGDP) 20.12
15 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 21.62
16 Baleares (1000Genomes) 22.53
17 Galicia (1000Genomes) 22.68
18 Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.27
19 Dutch (Dodecad) 23.29
20 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 48.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.17
2 72.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 27.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.31
3 79.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 20.6% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 1.41
4 78.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 21.9% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.54
5 63.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 36.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.58
6 55.4% German (Dodecad) + 44.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.58
7 73.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 26.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 1.59
8 75.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.6
9 52.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 47.2% German (Dodecad) @ 1.61
10 76.6% Romanians (Behar) + 23.4% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 1.65
11 76.8% Romanians (Behar) + 23.2% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 1.7
12 76% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 24% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 1.73
13 57.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 42.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.73
14 64.4% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 35.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.77
15 63.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 36.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.81
16 76.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.1% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 1.85
17 75.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 24.7% Russian (Dodecad) @ 1.86
18 59.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 40.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.87
19 55.5% German (Dodecad) + 44.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.87
20 79.1% Romanians (Behar) + 20.9% Spanish (Dodecad)

Lucas
05-16-2019, 12:29 AM
Post K36 too

bained
05-16-2019, 12:31 AM
K36

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.67 Pct
Armenian 4.49 Pct
Basque 0.86 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.20 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 7.20 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 11.17 Pct
East_Med 6.80 Pct
Eastern_Euro 3.64 Pct
Fennoscandian 2.28 Pct
French 5.93 Pct
Iberian 13.69 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.61 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 6.03 Pct
North_African 0.38 Pct
North_Atlantic 3.23 Pct
North_Caucasian 2.61 Pct
North_Sea 7.67 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 3.52 Pct

21993
05-16-2019, 12:35 AM
Welcome

Kaspias
05-16-2019, 12:45 AM
Yep, in that range. I see you post a lot of other Bulgarian kits, do I differ a lot from them? On the maps I posted, I'm shifted towards Italy and even Friuli is 82 compared to 81 for BG. Can I claim my free macaroni?

You clearly differ from NW Bulgaria(Sofia-Vidin), NE Bulgaria(Ludogorie), Thrace (Western-Eastern-Bulgarian), South parts of Plovdiv(Smolyan). Your results fit to the SW Bulgaria(N. Macedonia-Greece border) and Central-North Central Bulgaria where Balkan Mountains lie.

It is not very typical for Bulgarians to score 20+NA while having only 21 Baltic. We see this result in SW Bulgaria because of Greek influence in this area, also we see this result in Central Bulgaria because of Vlach influence in this area. In this sense it wouldn't be wrong to say you have some Vlach admixture. Also the Roman Town confirms this theory. In addition, your results reminds me a Karavlach from Kavala.

bained
05-16-2019, 12:52 AM
You clearly differ from NW Bulgaria(Sofia-Vidin), NE Bulgaria(Ludogorie), Thrace (Western-Eastern-Bulgarian), South parts of Plovdiv(Smolyan). Your results fit to the SW Bulgaria(N. Macedonia-Greece border) and Central-North Central Bulgaria where Balkan Mountains lie.

It is not very typical for Bulgarians to score 20+NA while having only 21 Baltic. We see this result in SW Bulgaria because of Greek influence in this area, also we see this result in Central Bulgaria because of Vlach influence in this area. In this sense it wouldn't be wrong to say you have some Vlach admixture. Also the Roman Town confirms this theory. In addition, your results reminds me a Karavlach from Kavala.

Thanks for that information! You are spot on the SW Bulgaria, it is the only other region than Plovdiv that I get on 23andme.

bained
05-16-2019, 12:57 AM
Welcome, I guess you are from Хисаря. :)

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Thracian
05-16-2019, 01:13 AM
Thanks for that information! You are spot on the SW Bulgaria, it is the only other region than Plovdiv that I get on 23andme.

Can you share your 23andMe as well?

Kaspias
05-16-2019, 01:14 AM
Thanks for that information! You are spot on the SW Bulgaria, it is the only other region than Plovdiv that I get on 23andme.

You're welcome. Would you mind to post your 23andMe results? It would be interesting to see.

bained
05-16-2019, 01:15 AM
Can you share your 23andMe as well?


100%
European
100.0%
Southern European
91.9%
Greek & Balkan
79.6%
Italian
6.9%
Broadly Southern European
5.4%
Eastern European
7.3%
Broadly European
0.7%

bained
05-16-2019, 01:18 AM
87957 87958 87959 87960

Ok the first pic is from the BETA so the percentages are lower than current version, but still the same regions.

Kaspias
05-16-2019, 01:25 AM
@Thracian how were yours? As far as i remember you got regions only in Bulgaria. Is this normal to see specific regions below more than one country?

Thracian
05-16-2019, 01:33 AM
@Thracian how were yours? As far as i remember you got regions only in Bulgaria. Is this normal to see specific regions below more than one country?

It was beta, actually. I also got Greece (Peloponnese), Italy (Campania and Sicily) and Turkey (no specific regions) after the update. Maybe the regions will change again after the Central/South Asian update. Usually people have more than one country.

andre
05-16-2019, 08:54 AM
These results are a little different from the other Balkans (Romanians, Serbs and other Bulgarians) because by looking at your map k36 you are oriented south-south west europe.. while most of the Balkan people are south-north east. I think there has been a large Roman colonization (with especially Romanized Celts) in that area. Correct me if I'm wrong!