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Mikael19
05-15-2019, 01:49 PM
Muslim spoken word. Please I kindly request no hateful comments or you will be ignored. Everyone has their opinion but please make sure it is on topic and related to the video. Thanks.


https://youtu.be/7d16CpWp-ok

Tigranes
05-15-2019, 01:53 PM
Yo

Pansarkamrat
05-15-2019, 02:00 PM
Yo

Outlaw
05-15-2019, 02:07 PM
Meaning of life to worship some God from a book ? Doesn't sound like any meaning to me. Purely existing to worship such an entity sounds more like slavery and a egoistical god who needs approval. The basis of Islam is absolutely illogical and in general are most religions. The philosophical aspect of Buddhism makes much more sense in this case. He's trying to promote Islam by at the same time trying to criticize humans existing for merely materialistic purposes. I guess searching for some God, being , religion or whatever it may be gives some people some sense of purpose in life that is more than the materialistic aspect, weather what they believe is true or not, a meaning, which I am not gonna try and take away from him. But such a meaning can also be found outside religion such as having a life goal, doing good deeds , doing things that make you happy, helping others, some people turn to sports and fitness, health, others towards spirituality or meditation, others I have seen even become minimalists to reduce the materialistic aspect. Just having a purpose or creating a purpose for yourself. Some people are even drawn towards the teachings of Buddhism over time and it's teaching of mindfulness. Some people even become monks. Some become Stoic and just accept lifes circumstances and just live and let live regardless of what happens.

Mikael19
05-15-2019, 02:28 PM
Meaning of life to worship some God from a book ? Doesn't sound like any meaning to me. Purely existing to worship such an entity sounds more like slavery and a egoistical god who needs approval. The basis of Islam is absolutely illogical and in general are most religions. The philosophical aspect of Buddhism makes much more sense in this case. He's trying to promote Islam by at the same time trying to criticize humans existing for merely materialistic purposes. I guess searching for some God, being , religion or whatever it may be gives some people some sense of purpose in life that is more than the materialistic aspect, weather what they believe is true or not, a meaning, which I am not gonna try and take away from him. But such a meaning can also be found outside religion such as having a life goal, doing good deeds , doing things that make you happy, helping others, some people turn to sports and fitness, health, others towards spirituality or meditation, others I have seen even become minimalists to reduce the materialistic aspect. Just having a purpose or creating a purpose for yourself. Some people are even drawn towards the teachings of Buddhism over time and it's teaching of mindfulness. Some people even become monks. Some become Stoic and just accept lifes circumstances and just live and let live regardless of what happens.

Well it depends where you want to start? Firstly, you would have to establish the existence of a creator. Now, I can't give you factual tangible evidence for the existence of a creator, however, I can give you reasons as to why I hold the position that a creator exists. Then, I would establish the idea of this creator and what abilities it would have to possess for me to identify it as a creator of this known universe. I would then see if this creator has made any contact with it's creation I. E. Humans. You woukd see the claim of the men that have claimed they have been sent by that creator e.g moses or Muhammed pbut.

On a sidenote, praying is not the only form of worshipping God. The very fact that a person is following its creators guidance is a form of worshipping. Giving charity, Good to your parents, neighbours, not stealing, being faithful etc. Only difference between your guy who you have described and mine is, that my person doesn't ignore its creator. Having belief is not enough, you need to do good by your actions.

In addition, by whose standards are you going by to define happiness? Isn't happiness subjective? I mean, all of the things you mentioned could easily be taken as the opposite of happiness. Materialistic happiness is just merely an illusion of temporary enjoyment of this world. Also Buddhism is not really a religion. It does not involve God nor does it connect you to God, so cannot be classed a religion.

Let me ask what do you believe? There is pretty much two propositions you can go by, the first one being, "The universe has always existed" or " the universe came into existence at some point". There isnt really another variable because all theories boils down to these two propositions.

Now if you are claiming the possibility of a creator existing is impossible, then you would have to back it up with a logical argument that includes proof and reason. You can't prove a creator exists nor can you disprove it. So let's just assume I'm right and you are wrong for the sake of argument... And a creator lo and behold exists. Who cares what you think? Your opinion is merely subjective and comes from social conditioning and is revolved around emotional belief. The fact would be is that a creator exists and the guidance it has provided. Because you see, the Quran is tangible evidence that you can check out for yourself, it exists. So really, it comes down to this: Either a Creator exists or he doesn't.

Now if you start claiming that you do not believe of a creator existing, then I would ask you this... Do you BELIEVE your father is your father? Most people would assume YES without actual tangible proof. Now they are far from being incorrect, but the same standard applies to a creator. How you ask? Well, quite simply, you have perfectly good reasons to believe your father is your biological father without the need of dna testing, e.g. He resembles you, family testemony, you know your mothers faithfulness, etc. So therefore your belief is backed up by valid reasons. Now I will ask you this...is believing that the universe needed a cause and came into existence illogical? Because even according to the leading scientists in the world, theorise that the universe had a beginning...and in fact a first cause must have existed. They just "don't know" what that is... Don't know of the gaps rather than God of the gaps.

The truth is, there is many angles you could approach which you could assess the credibility of Islam. One approach is whether a creator exists or not. Another apporoach is testing the claim of Muhammed pbuh and seeing if a goat herder in the deserts of Arabia was in fact telling the truth. Or the credibility of the miracle he claimed he brought and the guidance it came with, the Quran. As I mentioned Before, the Quran is tangible evidence which exists. So you would have 2 or 3 variables as to where this came from. First one would be, it was man made. Second one, the devil. Or three it was truly from God.

Now, most people would claim its man made, as i think most people would dismiss the idea of it being from Satan except some few naive Christians. Question is... Why? And how? Now, if you are claiming that Muhammed pbuh lied, then you would need some evidence to back up you claim, other than that it's just an weak accusation. Now I know for a FACT most would assume he made up this religion to gain power, wealth and status. But, he was married to the richest woman in Makkah, his family were custodians of the Kaabah (so he had status) and he was known as the "trustworthy one" ( Al amin) for 40 years of his life. Is this the kind of man who would lie? Not only that, but why come down to the people and tell them to stop worshipping idols, stop comitting fornication, stop drinking alcohol among many other things if he REALLY wanted power? I mean, if he was a liar then I mean come on, his motives would be quite obvious, to gain the peoples favour, but instead he was persecuted for 13 years, banished from his home, and all for what? A lie?do you really still think that?

Mikael19
05-15-2019, 03:08 PM
So looking at Muhammed pbuh character and life Before his claim of revelation, I would conclude that he couldn't be a liar. So what's left? He was crazy or delusional. Well again, to claim he was delusional or crazy would need some sources that would suggest he had these problems, but we don't. I mean, after 40 years of knowing somebody, I think you would get a gist if they were a little cuckoo. Not only that, but let's look at the Quran that he brought. Now I'm sure that many of you don't know this, and don't only take my word for it, rather look at unbiased sources, but, when the leaders of makkah who were heavy pagan worshippers heard this man's word that he revealing, they sent the best poets of Arabia to listen what he was revealing. You know what they concluded? It is sorcery. The best poets of the land just came to conclusion that a illetrate man is revealing magic words. Supernatural in other words. And thsts just the grammatical miracle.

Again, you are thinking, "well I'm not an Arab nor speak arabic, so how can I be convinced if I can't understand the miracle?", valid point actually. Well truth is, the grammatical miracle doesnt really apply to you nor me, as we don't understand Arabic, BUT, that's not the only way of checking its validity. I'm sure many of you guys have heard of a falsification test right? Einstein? Theory of relativity? Ring any bells? Well again, the author of the Quran actually gives you TWO falsification Test, first one being...

"And if you are in doubt about what We have revealed (the Quran) to Our worshiper (Muhammad ), then produce a chapter like it, and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides God if you are truthful. And if you do not do it, and you can never do it, then fear the Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones"

.... And the second one..

Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than God, they would have found within it much contradiction. (4:82)

Part 3 coming soon

Mikael19
05-15-2019, 04:37 PM
Just a side note. Here is a quote of Sir George Bernard Shaw, who was an Irish playwright, critic, polemicist and political activist. His influence on Western theatre, culture and politics extended from the 1880s to his death and beyond. He wrote more than sixty plays, including major works such as Man and Superman (1902), Pygmalion (1912) and Saint Joan (1923). With a range incorporating both contemporary satire and historical allegory, Shaw became the leading dramatist of his generation, and in 1925 was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature. And this is his opinion on Islam:


Letter to the Reverend Ensor Walters (1933), as quoted in Bernard Shaw : Collected Letters, 1926-1950 (1988) by Dan H. Laurence, p. 305

” I have always held the religion of Mohammed in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality.

It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capability to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age.

The world must doubtless attach high value to the predictions of great men like me.

I have prophesied about the faith of Mohammed that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today.

The medieval ecclesiastics, either through ignorance or bigotry, painted Mohammedanism in the darkest colors.

They were in fact trained both to hate the man Mohammed and his religion.

To them Mohammed was Anti-Christ. I have studied him — the wonderful man, and in my opinion far from being an Anti-Christ he must be called the Savior of Humanity.

I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much-needed peace and happiness.

But to proceed, it was in the 19th century that honest thinkers like Carlyle, Goethe and Gibbon perceived intrinsic worth in the religion of Mohammed, and thus there were some change for the better in the European attitude towards Islam.

But the Europe of the present century is far advanced.

It is beginning to be enamored of the creed of Mohammed.

I believe that if today an autocrat of Mohammed’s caliber assumes world leadership, he could solve all problems of humanity splendidly.

The world will become an abode of peace and happiness.

I predict that tomorrow’s Europe will embrace Islam.”

(End of Sir Bernard Shaw’s letter)

Zmey Gorynych
05-15-2019, 04:47 PM
Mikael, word of advice for you: In order to convert or simply convince someone you have to be smarter than that someone. So, do you think you're smart enough?

Mikael19
05-15-2019, 05:15 PM
Alright, so let's get back to it now. There are thousands of grammatical miracles within the quran that is just too detailed to look into, especially explaining it to non Arabic speakers. So, let's look at the most famous subject in this forum: SCIENCE and HISTORY.

It's quite obvious. If deemed correct, how could a man in the desert 14 centuries ago guess so many science facts that have only been discovered recently, when even the Greeks, Persians, Indians were incorrect!!

For example the Human Embryonic development in the Quran which can be found here : https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/216/quran-on-human-embryonic-development/

Again, before blindly critisicsing, this work has been backed up by the well known embryologist non Muslim American Dr Keith. L Moore. His testimony is in the link too.

The miracle of iron

And We also sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind…” (Quran 57:25)

If you were reading this verse in the 7th century or even 17th centhry, you probably wouldn't have thought too much about it. However, now we know according to science, iron is not native to earth, rather it came from space in meteorites.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron

https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/562/miracle-of-iron/

The Big Bang Theory and The expanding Universe

By observing redshifts[2] in the light wavelengths emitted by galaxies, Hubble found that galaxies were not fixed in their position; instead, they were actually moving away from us with speeds proportional to their distance from earth (Hubble's Law). The only explanation for this observation was that the universe had to be expanding. Hubble’s discovery is regarded as one of the greatest in the history of astronomy. In 1929, he published the velocity-time relation which is the basis of modern cosmology. In the years to come, with further observations, the expanding-universe theory was accepted by scientists and astronomers alike.

Yet, astonishingly well before telescopes were even invented and well before Hubble published his Law, Prophet Muhammad used to recite a verse of the Quran to his companions that ultimately stated that the universe is expanding.

“And the heaven We created with might, and indeed We are (its) expander.” (Quran 51:47)


Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, then We separated them, and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?” (Quran 21:30)


In the previous verse, the Arabic words ratq and fataq are used. The word ratq can be translated into “entity” “sewn to” “joined together” or “closed up”. The meaning of these translations all circulate around something that is mixed and that has a separate and distinct existence. The verb fataq is translated into “We unstitched” “We clove them asunder” “We separated” or “We have opened them”. These meanings imply that something comes into being by an action of splitting or tearing apart. The sprouting of a seed from the soil is a good example of a similar illustration of the meaning of the verb fataq.

With the introduction of the Big Bang theory, it soon became clear to Muslim scholars that the details mentioned with regards to the theory go identically hand in hand with the description of the creation of the universe in verse 30 of chapter 21 of the Quran. The theory states that all the matter in the universe came into existence from one single extremely hot and dense point; that exploded and brought about the beginning of the universe, matches what is mentioned in the verse that the heaven and Earth (thus the universe) where once joined together, and then split apart. Once again, the only possible explanation is that Prophet Muhammad had truly received divine revelation from God, The Creator and Originator of the universe.
https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/1560/quran-on-expanding-universe-and-big-bang-theory/

The science of modern cosmology, observational and theoretical, clearly indicates that, at one point in time, the whole universe was nothing but a cloud of ‘smoke’ (i.e. an opaque highly dense and hot gaseous composition).[1] This is one of the undisputed principles of standard modern cosmology. Scientists now can observe new stars forming out of the remnants of that ‘smoke’.

Then He turned to the heaven when it was smoke...” (Quran 41:11)

Because the earth and the heavens above (the sun, the moon, stars, planets, galaxies, etc.) have been formed from this same ‘smoke,’ we conclude that the earth and the heavens were one connected entity

https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/212/quran-on-origin-of-universe/

Here is a link that shows a list of leading scientists comments about the scientific accuracy within the Quran.

https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/219/scientists-comments-on-scientific-miracles-in-holy-quran/

The Quran on Deep seas and internal waves

Or(the unbelievers’ state) is like the darkness in a deep sea. It is covered by waves, above which are waves, above which are clouds. Darknesses, one above another. If a man stretches out his hand, he cannot see it....” (Quran 24:40)

This verse mentions the darkness found in deep seas and oceans, where if a man stretches out his hand, he cannot see it. The darkness in deep seas and oceans is found around a depth of 200 meters and below. At this depth, there is almost no light (see figure 1). Below a depth of 1000 meters there is no light at all.[1] Human beings are not able to dive more than forty meters without the aid of submarines or special equipment. Human beings cannot survive unaided in the deep dark part of the oceans, such as at a depth of 200 meters.

We can also understand from the following sentences in the previous verse, “...in a deep sea. It is covered by waves, above which are waves, above which are clouds....”, that the deep waters of seas and oceans are covered by waves, and above these waves are other waves. It is clear that the second set of waves are the surface waves that we see, because the verse mentions that above the second waves there are clouds. But what about the first waves? Scientists have recently discovered that there are internal waves which “occur on density interfaces between layers of different densities.”
https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/217/quran-on-deep-seas-and-internal-waves/

Mikael19
05-15-2019, 05:18 PM
Mikael, word of advice for you: In order to convert or simply convince someone you have to be smarter than that someone. So, do you think you're smart enough?

I am not here to convince or convert anyone. I am here to refute the nonsense people sprout out here in this forum. Not only that, but I think spreading hate towards Islam and Muslims has become very normal and popular in this forum, is it wrong for me to address that too? ( which I will later on don't worry :))

Mikael19
05-15-2019, 05:26 PM
Mikael, word of advice for you: In order to convert or simply convince someone you have to be smarter than that someone. So, do you think you're smart enough?

You have the right to believe anything you want. Just don't come and claim my belief is wrong when you have no substantial reason to back it up( not saying you do just an example).

Historical accuracy in Quran coming up next....

Mikael19
05-15-2019, 06:03 PM
Meaning of life to worship some God from a book ? Doesn't sound like any meaning to me. Purely existing to worship such an entity sounds more like slavery and a egoistical god who needs approval. The basis of Islam is absolutely illogical and in general are most religions. The philosophical aspect of Buddhism makes much more sense in this case. He's trying to promote Islam by at the same time trying to criticize humans existing for merely materialistic purposes. I guess searching for some God, being , religion or whatever it may be gives some people some sense of purpose in life that is more than the materialistic aspect, weather what they believe is true or not, a meaning, which I am not gonna try and take away from him. But such a meaning can also be found outside religion such as having a life goal, doing good deeds , doing things that make you happy, helping others, some people turn to sports and fitness, health, others towards spirituality or meditation, others I have seen even become minimalists to reduce the materialistic aspect. Just having a purpose or creating a purpose for yourself. Some people are even drawn towards the teachings of Buddhism over time and it's teaching of mindfulness. Some people even become monks. Some become Stoic and just accept lifes circumstances and just live and let live regardless of what happens.

Okay now I would like to address your claim. "the basis of Islam is illogical". Okay well, I would kindly disagree. Why? Well, firstly, God doesn't need our approval nor worship. The nature of God is perfectly explained in such a short verse:

“Say: He, Allah, is One,"
2. “Allah, the Eternal,"
3. “He begets not, nor is He begotten,"
4. “And there is none like unto Him.”

This is explicit enough to show the creation he is separate from them. In addition, why is the basis of Islam illogical? By worshipping God, we attain his guidance. His guidance protects me and my family from the pitfalls of society and life if followed accordingly. In every society there is 5 main poisons that erodes ANY society, these are, drugs, alcholol, sexual immorality, gambling and usery. If I follow the guidance which I believe God has given me, I will never be victims to these poisons, whereas YOU could possibly be. See the difference? If God knows whats best for me, don't you think he would tell us,, instead of leaving it for ourselves to figure it out? That would be an unjust god. Moreover, it's perfectly fine to set yourself goals and achievements throughout your life, Islam promotes that, it also promotes the idea of seeking knowledge from the cradle to the grave. However, we all have a universal goal, which is to obey and worship our creator. Any object on this planet has a purpose based on its existence, and so do we. These goals and purposes to buy a house or get a promotion at your job is just mere consequences of your exisitence in this life.

Funny thing, an atheist went to this Muslim and asked him, "what would you do if you found out there was no god?"

His reply was, "I would still follow the guidance even if there was no god"

In a nutshell, its a win win situation.

Mikael19
05-15-2019, 06:18 PM
Pharaoh
Pharaoh is a title given to Egyptian rulers in the New Kingdom (not before).
For centuries it was thought that all Egyptian rulers were referred to as Pharaohs. Actually the Christian Bible insists that Abraham and Joseph interacted with Pharaohs. However modern discoveries show that this cannot be true. Pharaoh is a title given to rulers in the Egyptian New Kingdom, not before.

Before the New Kingdom the word "Pharaoh" meant "Great House" and it referred to the buildings of the court or palace but not to the ruler.

From the Twelfth Dynasty onward, the word appears in a wish formula "Great House, May it Live, Prosper, and be in Health", but again only with reference to the royal palace and not the person.

Sometime during the era of the New Kingdom, Second Intermediate Period, pharaoh became the form of address for a person who was king.



So there were no Pharaohs at the time of Abraham or Joseph. They were just kings. But the Quran didn't do this mistake. The Quran correctly addressed the ruler at the time of Joseph as King, and correctly addressed the ruler at the time of Moses as Pharaoh.

The Egyptian ruler at time of Joseph was a king:

[Quran 12:52] The king said, "Bring him to me, and I will reserve him for myself." And when he spoke to him, he said, "This day you are with us established and secure."



The Egyptian ruler at time of Moses was a Pharaoh:

[Quran 40:26] Pharaoh said, "Let me kill Moses, and let him appeal to his Lord. I fear he may change your religion, or spread disorder in the land."



No mistakes in the Quran.

How could an illiterate man who lived 1400 years ago have known who was Pharaoh and who was not?

Mikael19
05-15-2019, 06:20 PM
Biblical Haman » Qur’ānic Hāmān: A Case Of Straightforward Literary Transition?

https://www.islamic-awareness.org/quran/contrad/external/haman

Mikael19
05-15-2019, 06:22 PM
Defeat of Persian Empire
In 615 AD, Khusru Parviz of Persia attacked Byzantium (Roman) empire and gained control of Syria, Palestine and North Africa. He ransacked Jerusalem, set fire to the Holy Sepulcher and destroyed numerous cities. The war ended in clear victory for fire-worshippers of Persia.

News of the defeat of Byzantine worshippers of God was received with satisfaction by the idolaters of Mecca. This was grievous to the Muslims and caused them much anxiety about the future course of the events. It was then that a revelation came foretelling the renewed triumph of the Byzantine over the Persians within few years.

These are the relevant verses of Surat Ruum in the Qur’an:

"The Romans have been defeated in a land nearby. But in the future they will triumph over their enemies, within a period of few years. All affairs, both earlier and later, are in the hands of God. And on the day when the Romans triumph, the believers and the followers of Islam will rejoice. God assists to whomsoever He wills, and He is Powerful and Compassionate. This is the promise of God, a promise which can not be violated, but most of the people know not”. (30:1-6).

Within less than 10 years, this Prophecy of the Qur’an was fulfilled in the year 624 A.D. corresponding to year 2 A.H. How can we explain the confident and categorical prediction of the victory of a defeated people over a victorious people, in the absence of any factors pointing to the likelihood of such an event? A realistic approach to the state of society and the course of events would definitely have contradicted this prophesy. The Prophet of Islam foretold a definite military victory at a certain point in the future. How did he know it was going to occur?

Mikael19
05-15-2019, 06:34 PM
The prophecy of prophet isiah chapter 42

http://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_42.htm

Sing to the Lord a new song,
his praise from the ends of the earth,
you who go down to the sea, and all that is in it,
you islands, and all who live in them.
11 Let the wilderness and its towns raise their voices;
let the settlements where Kedar lives rejoice.
Let the people of Sela sing for joy;
let them shout from the mountaintops.
12 Let them give glory to the Lord
and proclaim his praise in the islands.
13 The Lord will march out like a champion,
like a warrior he will stir up his zeal;
with a shout he will raise the battle cry
and will triumph over his enemies.

14 “For a long time I have kept silent,
I have been quiet and held myself back.
But now, like a woman in childbirth,
I cry out, I gasp and pant.
15 I will lay waste the mountains and hills
and dry up all their vegetation;
I will turn rivers into islands
and dry up the pools.
16 I will lead the blind by ways they have not known,
along unfamiliar paths I will guide them;
I will turn the darkness into light before them
and make the rough places smooth.
These are the things I will do;
I will not forsake them.
17 But those who trust in idols,
who say to images, ‘You are our gods,’
will be turned back in utter shame

Mikael19
05-15-2019, 06:45 PM
The Qedarite Kingdom, or Qedar (Arabic: مملكة قيدار‎, Mamlakat Qaydar), was a largely nomadic, ancient Arab tribal confederation. Described as "the most organized of the Northern Arabian tribes", at the peak of its power in the 6th century BCE it had a kingdom and controlled a vast region in Arabia.[1][2][3][4]

Biblical tradition holds that the Qedarites are named for Qedar, the second son of Ishmael, mentioned in the Bible's books of Genesis (25:13) and 1 Chronicles (1:29), where there are also frequent references to Qedar as a tribe.

Where is Mount sela?

Sela is a mountain in Medina in modern Saudi Arabia. Mount selae in the "District of the Seven Mosques" in city of Medina Municipality in Saudi Arabia.

Which prophet made the kedarites aka arabs rejoice, made the people of sela ( medinah) sing for joy( this is famously known when the Muslims entered madina and were singing), turning back the idolatrous in utter Shame (the pagan arabs) as well as being a warrior (no arguments from anti islamists over here :)), and triumph over his enemies. ( if you need reminding, within a short period of time, he managed to concede the Persians and the Romans, the two biggest empires in history).

http://i68.tinypic.com/24y699d.png

http://i67.tinypic.com/2h6d4yt.png

Just a heads up, I don't need the prophecy in the old testament to solidify my claim that Muhammed pbuh is truly the prophet of God. Its just to show the Jews and Christians, the forthcoming prophet has been mentioned in your own scriptures.

Note: the injeel (gospel) is NOT referring to the new testament that Christians read. It is the gospel given to jesus pbuh. The gospel the Christians have are the gospels of Mark, luke John and Matthew.

Mikael19
05-15-2019, 07:02 PM
For anyone interested in grammar and linguistics, then I would suggest you watch this video which goes over a few grammatical points within the Quran.


https://youtu.be/8KPEiGqDQHg

Mikael19
05-17-2019, 03:14 PM
This is how Islam led the world with women's rights
https://www.google.com/amp/s/stepfeed.com/amp/this-is-how-islam-led-the-world-with-women-s-rights-0090

Mikael19
05-20-2019, 11:29 AM
https://youtu.be/4Q4neEGlb4c

Insuperable
05-20-2019, 11:33 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/JnKBwXVC/maxresdefault.jpg

Aspirin
05-20-2019, 12:08 PM
Muslim spoken word. Please I kindly request no hateful comments or you will be ignored. Everyone has their opinion but please make sure it is on topic and related to the video. Thanks.


https://youtu.be/7d16CpWp-ok

Why do you promote subhumanism and animalism on an European Cultural Forum?

Mikael19
05-20-2019, 12:40 PM
Why do you promote subhumanism and animalism on an European Cultural Forum?

I will just let the quran and hadith speak for itself bro

O people, We have created you male and female and made you into nations and tribes that you may know one another. Verily, the most noble of you to Allah is the most righteous of you. Verily, Allah is knowing and aware.

Surat al-Hujurat 49:13

We have certainly honored the children of Adam and carried them on the land and sea and provided good things for them, and We favored them over much of what We created, with decisive preference.

Surat al-Isra’ 17:70

O people, your Lord is one and your father Adam is one. There is no favor of an Arab over a foreigner, nor a foreigner over an Arab, and neither white skin over black skin, nor black skin over white skin, except by righteousness.


“ O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under a trust from God and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.”


O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your Lord, and that He will indeed reckon your deeds. God has forbidden you to take usury (interest), therefore all interest obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital, however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer any inequity.

Do not betray or be treacherous or vindictive. Do not mutilate. Do not kill the children, the aged or the women. Do not cut or burn palm trees or fruitful trees. Donï؟½t slay a sheep, a cow or camel except for your food. And you will come across people who confined themselves to worship in hermitages, leave them alone to what they devoted themselves for.”

O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm in justice, witnesses for Allah, even if it be against yourselves or parents and relatives. Whether one is rich or poor, Allah is more worthy of both. So follow not [personal] inclination, lest you not be just. And if you distort [your testimony] or refuse [to give it], then indeed Allah is ever, with what you do, Acquainted.

Mikael19
05-20-2019, 12:44 PM
Why do you promote subhumanism and animalism on an European Cultural Forum?

promoting equality, eradicating racism, establishing justice, promoting the well being of the innocents in warfare and the environment as well favoring the treatment of women rightfully is subhuman? Maybe to you bro

Aspirin
05-20-2019, 01:12 PM
promoting equality, eradicating racism, establishing justice, promoting the well being of the innocents in warfare and the environment as well favoring the treatment of women rightfully is subhuman? Maybe to you bro

Lol, quite ironic what the place frome where you migrated, is totally antipode of all these words, especially the treatment of the women (:laugh:), and is an islamic hellhole.

A lesson from Afghanistan, how need to treat a woman. :icon_lol:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cFd2m2Htx_U/maxresdefault.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1sKiXX5Mcw

Mikael19
05-20-2019, 01:34 PM
Lol, quite ironic what the place frome where you migrated, is totally antipode of all these words, especially the treatment of the women (:laugh:), and is an islamic hellhole.

A lesson from Afghanistan, how need to treat a woman. :icon_lol:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cFd2m2Htx_U/maxresdefault.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1sKiXX5Mcw

Again, show me where the teachings of Islam promotes this when I literally just showed you quotes from the hadith and quran that tells men to treat their women with kindness. Don't deviate away from the point by showing me ignorant fools who impose their patriarchal mentality on vulnerable women. Domestic violence occurs in every part of the world, you can't hide from it.

Insuperable
05-20-2019, 01:42 PM
I will just let the quran and hadith speak for itself bro

O people, We have created you male and female and made you into nations and tribes that you may know one another. Verily, the most noble of you to Allah is the most righteous of you. Verily, Allah is knowing and aware.

Surat al-Hujurat 49:13

We have certainly honored the children of Adam and carried them on the land and sea and provided good things for them, and We favored them over much of what We created, with decisive preference.

Surat al-Isra’ 17:70

O people, your Lord is one and your father Adam is one. There is no favor of an Arab over a foreigner, nor a foreigner over an Arab, and neither white skin over black skin, nor black skin over white skin, except by righteousness.


“ O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under a trust from God and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.”


O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your Lord, and that He will indeed reckon your deeds. God has forbidden you to take usury (interest), therefore all interest obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital, however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer any inequity.

Do not betray or be treacherous or vindictive. Do not mutilate. Do not kill the children, the aged or the women. Do not cut or burn palm trees or fruitful trees. Donï؟½t slay a sheep, a cow or camel except for your food. And you will come across people who confined themselves to worship in hermitages, leave them alone to what they devoted themselves for.”

O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm in justice, witnesses for Allah, even if it be against yourselves or parents and relatives. Whether one is rich or poor, Allah is more worthy of both. So follow not [personal] inclination, lest you not be just. And if you distort [your testimony] or refuse [to give it], then indeed Allah is ever, with what you do, Acquainted.

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