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Maguzanci
05-17-2019, 06:42 AM
Indonesian: Half ethnic Acehnese half ethnic Javanese (main ethnic group of Indonesia, mainly situated in Java). Seems he got most of his Caucasoid admix from his Acehnese side.

His pics: He looks like the Asian version of Mortimer to me:

https://i.imgur.com/4NqyCNj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NADk3lv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6SyS5nN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FmAHVes.jpg

His 23andme: DO NOT QUOTE IT: He is only 10.7% South Asian here. It increase drastically like up to 20% something South Asian when he used gedmatch.
https://i.imgur.com/g1mhqzG.png


Admix Results (sorted): He is around 8-9% West Eurasian here (some might be hiding in the South Indian)

# Population Percent
1 SE-Asian 62.63
2 S-Indian 17.01
3 Baloch 5.14
4 NE-Asian 5.1
5 Papuan 2.91
6 Caucasian 2.16
7 Siberian 1.94
8 NE-Euro 1.38
9 American 0.83
10 Beringian 0.75
11 Pygmy 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 thai (xing) 7.84
2 cambodian (hgdp) 11.36
3 singapore-malay (sgvp) 11.66
4 khmer-cambodian (xing) 12.78
5 iban (xing) 26.81
6 dai (hgdp) 28.39
7 dai-chinese (1000genomes) 29.42
8 kinh (1000genomes) 31.49
9 samoan (xing) 33.97
10 lahu (hgdp) 34.21
11 vietnamese (xing) 34.87
12 khasi (chaubey) 38.54
13 tongan (xing) 39.26
14 burmanese (chaubey) 48.45
15 garo (chaubey) 51.47
16 bonda (chaubey) 51.59
17 juang (chaubey) 51.7
18 great-andamanese (reich) 52.74
19 onge (reich) 52.77
20 kharia (chaubey) 58.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.1% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.9% srivastava (reich) @ 1.91
2 86.3% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.7% tharu (metspalu) @ 1.92
3 86.3% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.7% up-muslim (metspalu) @ 1.92
4 85.9% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 14.1% caribbean-indian (harappa) @ 1.93
5 86.6% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.4% lodi (reich) @ 1.95
6 86.1% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.9% ap-hyderabad (harappa) @ 1.97
7 86.3% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.7% andhra-pradesh (harappa) @ 2
8 86.7% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.3% hallaki (reich) @ 2
9 86.7% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.3% kol (metspalu) @ 2
10 86.6% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.4% up-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 2.01
11 86.4% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.6% kanjar (metspalu) @ 2.01
12 85.9% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 14.1% bihari (harappa) @ 2.03
13 86.8% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.2% kurumba (metspalu) @ 2.05
14 86.5% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.5% tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 2.06
15 86.4% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.6% karnataka (harappa) @ 2.06
16 86.6% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.4% dusadh (metspalu) @ 2.06
17 86.3% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.7% sinhalese (harappa) @ 2.07
18 86.8% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.2% velama (reich) @ 2.08
19 86.8% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.2% piramalai-kallar (metspalu) @ 2.09
20 86.8% singapore-malay (sgvp) + 13.2% naidu (reich) @ 2.1


He seem to be around 14-15% Caucasoid based on Eurasia K3:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 E_Eurasian 83.12
2 W_Eurasian 14.64
3 SSA 2.24

PuntDNAL K10 Ancient: Interestingly, he can modelled as a mix of mainly Cambodian+North Indian/Pakistani populations. He is around 9% Caucasoid admix here (the ASI here seem to be hiding some more West Eurasian as Euros and MENAs are scoring minor amounts of it).

# Population Percent
1 E_Asian 64.79
2 ASI 17.94
3 CHG 5.68
4 Oceanian 4.48
5 Siberian 2.64
6 ENF 1.83
7 WHG 1.3
8 Sub-Saharan 0.73
9 Beringian 0.62

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Cambodian 13.23
2 Vietnamese 25.63
3 Han_Chinese 28.46
4 Japanese 29.33
5 Hazara 47.57
6 Uzbek 54.67
7 Altaian 59.73
8 Nogai 63.55
9 Burusho 65.78
10 Tuvinian 65.85
11 Pashtun 68.39
12 Pathan 71.39
13 Sindhi 71.54
14 Kalash 71.94
15 Punjabi 72.08
16 UP_Brahmin 72.28
17 Turkish_Aydin 72.8
18 Tamil_Nadu 74.17
19 Chuvash 74.27
20 Brahui 75.01

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85% Cambodian + 15% Sindhi @ 4.06
2 83.9% Cambodian + 16.1% Burusho @ 4.15
3 85% Cambodian + 15% Pathan @ 4.22
4 85.2% Cambodian + 14.8% UP_Brahmin @ 4.29
5 85.3% Cambodian + 14.7% Punjabi @ 4.73
6 86% Cambodian + 14% Velama @ 4.77
7 85.4% Cambodian + 14.6% Kalash @ 4.88
8 85.8% Cambodian + 14.2% Tamil_Nadu @ 5.1
9 86% Cambodian + 14% Brahui @ 5.14
10 86.1% Cambodian + 13.9% Balochi @ 5.29
11 84.9% Cambodian + 15.1% Pashtun @ 5.3
12 86.3% Cambodian + 13.7% Makrani @ 5.35
13 74.1% Vietnamese + 25.9% Punjabi @ 5.36
14 86.4% Cambodian + 13.6% Piramalai_Kallars @ 5.46
15 75.2% Vietnamese + 24.8% Velama @ 5.58
16 74.3% Vietnamese + 25.7% UP_Brahmin @ 5.76
17 74.8% Vietnamese + 25.2% Tamil_Nadu @ 5.77
18 75.5% Vietnamese + 24.5% Piramalai_Kallars @ 6.07
19 80.4% Cambodian + 19.6% Hazara @ 6.64
20 87.2% Cambodian + 12.8% Iranian @ 7


Eurogenes K13: This one is a bit more accurate as it model him as a mix of Malay+various South Asian populations. He is around 8.4% Caucasoid here (looks like some more could be hiding behind the South Asian component). Interestingly, Baltic is the most Caucasoid component that he score.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 65.31
2 South_Asian 22.08
3 Baltic 5.63
4 Oceanian 3.6
5 East_Med 1.57
6 West_Med 0.67
7 West_Asian 0.56
8 Northeast_African 0.5
9 Amerindian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Malay 10.42
2 Cambodian 14.03
3 Tibeto-Burman_Burmese 16.05
4 Lahu 25.37
5 Vietnamese 27.35
6 Miaozu 30.49
7 Yizu 30.56
8 Dai 30.66
9 Tujia 31.35
10 Naxi 31.81
11 She 31.85
12 Tu 35.51
13 Japanese 38.47
14 Xibo 46.49
15 Hezhen 48.14
16 Uygur 51.25
17 Hazara 55.94
18 Aghan_Hazara 57.95
19 Austroasiatic_Ho 59.18
20 Uzbeki 59.69


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.9% Malay + 11.1% North_Kannadi @ 3.32
2 88.7% Malay + 11.3% Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.36
3 88.8% Malay + 11.2% Kanjar @ 3.37
4 88.9% Malay + 11.1% Kol @ 3.37
5 88.7% Malay + 11.3% Dharkar @ 3.42
6 89.3% Malay + 10.7% Chamar @ 3.47
7 87.3% Malay + 12.7% Bangladeshi @ 3.52
8 88.5% Malay + 11.5% Chenchu @ 3.57
9 89% Malay + 11% Dusadh @ 3.62
10 88.7% Malay + 11.3% Kshatriya @ 3.62
11 89.2% Malay + 10.8% Sakilli @ 3.69
12 89.3% Malay + 10.7% Piramalai @ 3.69
13 88.6% Malay + 11.4% Brahmin_UP @ 3.69
14 89.2% Malay + 10.8% Velamas @ 3.72
15 89.2% Malay + 10.8% Kurumba @ 3.75
16 88.8% Malay + 11.2% Gujarati @ 3.8
17 85.5% Cambodian + 14.5% North_Kannadi @ 4.1
18 85.3% Cambodian + 14.7% Kanjar @ 4.16
19 85.2% Cambodian + 14.8% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.22
20 86.1% Malay + 13.9% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 4.24

Mortimer
05-17-2019, 07:54 AM
I do see a resemblance to me. Interesting results who is this guy? Do you know him?

Maguzanci
05-17-2019, 08:06 AM
I do see a resemblance to me. Interesting results who is this guy? Do you know him?

He is banned member from Anthroscape. His name is Lordkings. He is an Indonesian (Half ethnic Acehnese Half ethnic Javanese) who lives in Wisconsin, USA. He got banned for spamming the forum I think.

I never interacted with him as he was banned like a year before I joined Anthroscape.

I made a taxonomy thread for him yesterday: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?289560-Guess-and-classify-this-Mortimer-lookalike-(At-least-he-give-some-vibes)

Bigsaul
05-17-2019, 09:54 AM
Guy looks like he's angry at life.

Maguzanci
05-17-2019, 09:58 AM
Guy looks like he's angry at life.

LMAO

XYZ.2018
05-18-2019, 12:02 AM
It is Mortimer actually. You didn't know?

Maguzanci
06-01-2019, 01:34 AM
Forget to show his McDonald's results. Here they are:

It seems that he has actual Indian ancestry (most SE Asians score some Indian but it could also be Negrito/ASI-related than actual South Asian admix) from Gujarat which is in Western India.

In the second and third pic, he seem to show a slight shift towards the S_India and N_India clusters compared to the average Malaysian and Cambodian cluster which he still plots close to them. I guess in his case, he has actual South Asian ancestry?

Please don't quote them:

https://i.imgur.com/TyysgBV.png

https://i.imgur.com/obFR3ge.png

https://i.imgur.com/0niTOMc.png

Also this is Dr. McDonald's analysis of his result:


Most likely fit is 14.8% (+- 0.8%) S. Asia (various subcontinents)
and 85.2% (+- 0.8%) E. Asia (all Southeast Asia)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
N_India= 0.151 Malaysian= 0.849 or
Sindhi= 0.138 Malaysian= 0.862 or
S_India= 0.156 Malaysian= 0.844

and a custom fit agrees exactly. This looks like some sort of SE Asian,
or an actual India/SE Asian mix.


So he really seems to have actual South Asian ancestry and likely from North/West India.