`Exotic` Looking Brits

[Treffie]

A while back Uncle Aemeric suggested that I start a thread on `exotic` looking people who don't quite fit the British stereotype. I'll post a few to start, please feel free to add others. I've looked into their ancestry and I can't find anything to suggest anything but British. I wish to add that I'm not endorsing anything :thumb001:

Chris Coleman, Wales (this is what I would call a `dark Welsh`)

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03_03/chriscolemanG3003_468x541.jpg

Claire Short, England

http://transitionculture.org/wp-content/uploads/clare-short.jpg

Gavin Henson, Wales

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00358/SNN2419Z_280_358726a.jpg

Cheryl Cole, England

http://www.superiorpics.com/wenn_album/Cheryl_Cole_-_Heartbroken/cheryl_cole_001_050508.jpg

John Rhys-Davies, Wales

http://www.aolcdn.com/ch_newgd/j-r_davies.jpg

Gordon Banks, England

http://letterfromlarnaca.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/gordonbanks.jpg

Hugh Griffith, Wales

http://www.nndb.com/people/120/000063928/griffith-face.jpg

[Jägerstaffel]

Didn't John Rhys-Davies play an Arab in Indiana Jones?

I was surprised to learn he wasn't one.

[Treffie]

Didn't John Rhys-Davies play an Arab in Indiana Jones?

I was surprised to learn he wasn't one.

Yes he did, he also played Gimli in Lord of the Rings.:thumb001:


Martin Johnson, England

http://v4admin.sportnetwork.net/upload/245/EMP-5859901.jpg

Richard Mylan, Wales (I was in school with him so I thought I'd throw him in for good measure!:D)

http://www.mrproducer.co.uk/g_images/large/1210321839-richard-mylan-never-forget-take-that-musical-pre.jpg

Ryan Thomas, England

http://members.shaw.ca/lolaland/jason.jpg

Erin O'Connor, England (looks steely Russian to me!)

http://www.bassey.co.uk/blog2/uploaded_images/Erin%20O%27Connor-745492.bmp

Rose Huntington-Whitely, England (Russian looking?)

http://profile.ak.facebook.com/object3/860/113/l44384945917_2869.jpg

[Lenny]

John Rhys-Davies, Wales

http://www.aolcdn.com/ch_newgd/j-r_davies.jpg

He looks a lot like an Afghan I knew. (His parents had fled Afghanistan to Europe and then to America in the early 1980s. Shortly after arriving in the USA he was born. He claimed his father fled because he had "spit on a Soviet officer":p He was not Pashto; his parents spoke Farsi...[apparently the language of the upper-class in Kabul until the civil wars began, when they all fled]).



I always thought this guy's look was strange for a Northumberland'er:
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4962/rowanatkinson.jpg

[Æmeric]

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Claire Short, England

http://transitionculture.org/wp-content/uploads/clare-short.jpg

If she was American a lot of cyber anthropologists would detect Eskimid or Silvid.




Richard Mylan, Wales

http://www.mrproducer.co.uk/g_images/large/1210321839-richard-mylan-never-forget-take-that-musical-pre.jpg

Looks like a North African or Yemeni Jew.





Ryan Thomas, England

http://members.shaw.ca/lolaland/jason.jpg

Brazilian?


The two men above look dodgy even by American standards.

[Osweo]

Claire Short, England

http://transitionculture.org/wp-content/uploads/clare-short.jpg


I don't see anything THAT peculiar here.
And, as I understand it, her surname is an anglicisation/translation of my very own Gaelic derived one...

[Jägerstaffel]

I don't see anything THAT peculiar here.
And, as I understand it, her surname is an anglicisation/translation of my very own Gaelic derived one...

Which is why I don't put any stock into cyber classification.
So she may look a little like another race.. it's more likely than not just an unlucky face rather than some distant eskimo admixture.

[Osweo]

Which is why I don't put any stock into cyber classification.
So she may look a little like another race.. it's more likely than not just an unlucky face rather than some distant eskimo admixture.

Aye, she looks like my Mam, to tell the truth! :p

Mind you, we do wind her up by calling her 'the Dalai Lama' when she laughs too much, making her eyes extra squinty... :D

[Jägerstaffel]

I knew it! Multiculturalism has struck again!

[Lenny]

This "Claire Short" is 63 years old; all people's eyes start to droop like that with old age. Let's see a photo of her at age 30 for comparison!

[Æmeric]

All the examples Trefelin posted look more exotic then Kate Beckinsale & Beckinsale is suppose to be 1/8 or 1/16 Burmese.


http://www.topnews.in/light/files/Kate-Beckinsale2.jpg

[Osweo]

All the examples Trefelin posted look more exotic then Kate Beckinsale & Beckinsale is suppose to be 1/8 or 1/16 Burmese.


http://www.topnews.in/light/files/Kate-Beckinsale2.jpg
Kate is of that 1/1,000,000 sort that is considered appropriate to put on our screens. She's not a good example of slightly Burmese people, or of ANYTHING for that matter. We wouldn't know of her existence if her foreignness was any more pronounced, as she would never have got where she has.

The Welsh fellers look a bit odd, but I've seen similar around. Claire Short looks quite NORMAL even. :confused:

[Fortis in Arduis]

Kate is of that 1/1,000,000 sort that is considered appropriate to put on our screens. She's not a good example of slightly Burmese people, or of ANYTHING for that matter. We wouldn't know of her existence if her foreignness was any more pronounced, as she would never have got where she has.

The people I know who are 1/2 Anglo-Indian all look pretty Anglo:

Once you get down to 1/4 or 1/8 it ceases to reveal itself. IMO.

I had a pal who was Anglo-Assamese, she just looked like a very hot Indian.

She modelled for the Wella hair company, but could not get any further than that though, as, "No Asian model has ever been on the cover of Vogue, darling."

Oddly, this bunch all went to the same Catholic School in Cambridge.

Some Anglo-Indian totty for you:

http://69.20.67.100/library/photos/242/242203.jpg

Yep... she is 1/4 Indian. Joanna Lumley.

Other than that. Wow. Some Welsh are rather different.

[Treffie]

I don't see anything THAT peculiar here.
And, as I understand it, her surname is an anglicisation/translation of my very own Gaelic derived one...

I think it's due to the fact that she looks Eurasian, maybe this photo is better? It looks to me that she has a slight inner epicanthic fold which could make her pass as something else.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44534000/jpg/_44534511_clare_short_203.jpg

[Vulpix]

I think it's due to the fact that she looks Eurasian, maybe this photo is better? It looks to me that she has a slight inner epicanthic fold which could make her pass as something else.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44534000/jpg/_44534511_clare_short_203.jpg


Or maybe it could be age?

[Treffie]

Or maybe it could be age?

Possibly, but it's usually the outer epicanthus that heads south with age, like most other parts.:)

In this photo of her when she was younger, the folds are hardly visible but she still looks a tad Eurasian. Maybe it's just the slightly almond shaped eyes? I don't know.

http://www.col.org/SiteCollectionImages/short.jpg

[Lenny]

Can you dig up photos of her parents or a sibling perhaps?

[Treffie]

Can you dig up photos of her parents or a sibling perhaps?

That's the thing, can't find anything on them at all, only that they were from Co. Antrim in N.Ireland.

[Treffie]

Couple more

Ruth Madoc, Wales

http://www.s-one-beauty.com/celebgallery/thumbnails/11.jpg


Jonathan Thomas, Wales

http://www.scrum.com/PICTURES/CMS/700/736.1.jpg

[Æmeric]

It seems a disproportionate number of exotic Brits are Welsh.

[Æmeric]

Some Anglo-Indian totty for you:

http://69.20.67.100/library/photos/242/242203.jpg

Yep... she is 1/4 Indian. Joanna Lumley.

Other than that. Wow. Some Welsh are rather different.
Are you certain she is part Indian or were her family entirely British (by blood) who resided in India during the Raj?

[Rasvalg]

I think it's due to the fact that she looks Eurasian, maybe this photo is better? It looks to me that she has a slight inner epicanthic fold which could make her pass as something else.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44534000/jpg/_44534511_clare_short_203.jpg

I personally think that she looks like alot of the old polish gals that live up here by me. I wonder if she can cook like them.:D
As for the Welsh guys they all look like regular welsh. As for playing Arabs, now you believe the hollyweird role that he played and that is what stuck in your mind. If he had played James Bond then that is what he would be.

[chap]

Yep... she is 1/4 Indian. Joanna Lumley.

Do you have a source for that?

[Spaniard_Truth]

Yes he did, he also played Gimli in Lord of the Rings.:thumb001:


Martin Johnson, England

http://v4admin.sportnetwork.net/upload/245/EMP-5859901.jpg

Richard Mylan, Wales (I was in school with him so I thought I'd throw him in for good measure!:D)

http://www.mrproducer.co.uk/g_images/large/1210321839-richard-mylan-never-forget-take-that-musical-pre.jpg

Ryan Thomas, England

http://members.shaw.ca/lolaland/jason.jpg

Erin O'Connor, England (looks steely Russian to me!)

http://www.bassey.co.uk/blog2/uploaded_images/Erin%20O%27Connor-745492.bmp

Rose Huntington-Whitely, England (Russian looking?)

http://profile.ak.facebook.com/object3/860/113/l44384945917_2869.jpg


Ryan Thomas is a quadroon or an octoroon. I used to watch Coronation Street here in Spain years ago, and his estranged father was played by a mulatto.

Richard Mylan is unquestionably mixed race. There were many lascars in port cities throughout British history. For some reason, certain cities such as Cardiff and Liverpool attracted non-whites historically, and today those cities produce the occasional ambiguous 'native'. Richard Mylan seems part Negro.

[Útrám]

In the adjacent island of Iceland, similar individuals can be found. This is an Icelandic athlete from a geographically isolated village in the western peninsula of Snæfelsnes. He's probably just a very extreme Bruenn which has coincidentally led to an African-like appearance, he could easily pass for a mulatto. However, some documented voyages of Vikings did write about encounters with 'blámenn'(literally blue men, a slur for black people).

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/69/l_0eba84a98e957a42c573c9b8dad9df21.jpghttp://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/118/l_0a2a7e346b09cbaa5e4de9559a0630ba.jpghttp://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/77/l_94c2b4cca72fd224c7b292a7fbf08705.jpg

Him and a cousin of his.

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/127/l_92bdf02d21473825e41e8d0e23028699.jpg

When compared to an equally exaggerated but lighter specimen, you'll notice how he's still exceptional but in fact completely Cro-mangid.

Chris Bores, American actor/producer

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2867/predatorpostervf3.jpghttp://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/110/l_2772c240ab70f9002a9c215c3fe5e705.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/110/l_7fb0ddcf0d1b40a9f0003a41b8427043.jpg

[Treffie]

Ryan Thomas is a quadroon or an octoroon. I used to watch Coronation Street here in Spain years ago, and his estranged father was played by a mulatto.

Erm, not so sure about that. There's nothing quadroon or octoroon (I hate Americanisms) about him. :confused:


Richard Mylan is unquestionably mixed race. There were many lascars in port cities throughout British history. For some reason, certain cities such as Cardiff and Liverpool attracted non-whites historically, and today those cities produce the occasional ambiguous 'native'. Richard Mylan seems part Negro.

There's nothing questionable about it. Luckily I can answer this from a personal perspective. To suggest that his ancestry is part negro is spurious - you obviously haven't visited these parts. :confused:

[Spaniard_Truth]

Erm, not so sure about that. There's nothing quadroon or octoroon (I hate Americanisms) about him. :confused:

He has negroid features. He doesn't look a world apart from Craig Charles whom he stars alongside. And in the TV show he features in, he's cast as mixed race.




There's nothing questionable about it. Luckily I can answer this from a personal perspective. To suggest that his ancestry is part negro is spurious - you obviously haven't visited these parts. :confused:

His hair is negroid. Wikipedia states he's from Swansea, which is a port town, and therefore non-European ancestry is far from inconceivable.

[Útrám]

He has negroid features. He doesn't look a world apart from Craig Charles whom he stars alongside. And in the TV show he features in, he's cast as mixed race.





His hair is negroid. Wikipedia states he's from Swansea, which is a port town, and therefore non-European ancestry is far from inconceivable.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/images/bank/programmes_tv/ent/300coupling_mylan.jpg

Curly hair doesn't mean anything. From a strict morphological viewpoint he's a complete Europid, but defiantly exotic to the British isle, he looks like he's from Pakistan or India to me.

[Brännvin]

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/127/l_92bdf02d21473825e41e8d0e23028699.jpg

When compared to an equally exaggerated but lighter specimen, you'll notice how he's still exceptional but in fact completely Cro-mangid.

Chris Bores, American actor/producer

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2867/predatorpostervf3.jpghttp://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/110/l_2772c240ab70f9002a9c215c3fe5e705.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/110/l_7fb0ddcf0d1b40a9f0003a41b8427043.jpg


Reminds me famous french rugby player Sébastien Chabal

[Freomæg]

His hair is negroid.
His hair and only his hair, I'd say. Everything else about him looks reasonable for a Welshman and even the extreme curly hair could easily be nothing more than an anomaly.

[Spaniard_Truth]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/images/bank/programmes_tv/ent/300coupling_mylan.jpg

Curly hair doesn't mean anything. From a strict morphological viewpoint he's a complete Europid, but defiantly exotic to the British isle, he looks like he's from Pakistan or India to me.

Hair of that type isn't indigenous to any region of Europe. Aemeric is correct that he looks Yemeni or North African. Considering that South Wales had race riots around 1919, foreign presence has obviously been there for several generations.

Regarding Ryan Thomas, this thread http://boards.mulatto.org/post?id=1109621&trail=30 lists him as mulatto alongside other confirmed mixed people, so I have no reason to believe they don't know what they're talking about

[Útrám]

Reminds me famous french rugby player Sébastien Chabal

More guys belonging to this extremity.

Sébastien Chabal

http://www.xarj.net/wp-content/gallery/chabal-rugby-2007/1sebastien-chabal.jpg

Dalip Singh

http://www.superiorpics.com/pictures2/Singh_JS23768699.jpg

Nikolei Valuev

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/293/Nikolai-Valuev86.jpg

[Treffie]

He has very negroid features

Has he? Such as?


His hair is negroid. Wikipedia states he's from Swansea, which is a port town, and therefore non-European ancestry is far from inconceivable.

Negroid hair? Curly hair like that can be seen here, it's not that common but that are quite a few people with similar here. Oswiu is a member here who has similar hair IMO, are you suggesting that everyone with similar features here has negro ancestry?

Swansea happens to be my hometown. Yes it was a port but there was no black settlement such as Cardiff etc. There are only 300 black people here out of a population of 1/4 million. If there was any settlement this would have happened in the 1930's - 1950's (the same time as immigration to Cardiff), but Swansea didn't have shipping connections to the Yemen, Somalia or the Caribbean. The black population of Cardiff is 10,000+. In addition to this RM's family are all local - my parents grew up with his and could even remember his grandparents, so the chances of him possessing any negro ancestry are very slim indeed.

[Freomæg]

Hair of that type isn't indigenous to any region of Europe.
I was just in France over the weekend at a festival where there were people from all over Western Europe. I saw dozens of people (many who had naturally blonde hair) whose hair was as curly, or almost, as Ryan Thomas. Some had hair so curly that it was matted. I think it's extremely uncommon, but not unheard of among native Europeans.

[Spaniard_Truth]

Has he? Such as?

A face has a thousand subtleties that blend to create an overall impression. He's obviously not more than 1/4, so he has no 'pure' Negroid features (eg. prognathism, broad nose, curly hair etc.), yet African ancestry is obvious in his eye form and cranial structure. In fact, most of his features are subtly negroid. Each by itself wouldn't be any cause for alarm, yet all together trigger a gut feeling as to his foreignness.

The fact that a quick Google search yields countless threads discussing his ancestry (and mentioning Negroid in particular) only support the suspicion. Last of all, he's cast as a member of a (mixed) ethnicity. Why, when his ethnicity has never been integral to a storyline, would they choose a mulatto father to make a short appearance?

So he looks mixed ('exotic' as you say), he was cast as mixed, and England is full of mixed people. Is there a reason to doubt that he is mixed?


Negroid hair? Curly hair like that can be seen here, it's not that common but that are quite a few people with similar here. Oswiu is a member here who has similar hair IMO, are you suggesting that everyone with similar features here has negro ancestry?


Oswiu doesn't have Negroid hair. I'd say people with foreign features have questionable ancestry. They're not necessarily mixed, but considering historical contact of all Europeans with Gypsies, Jews, slaves, lascars, colonial back-migratnts etc, then we should expect alien features to surface in all populations every now and then.

[Útrám]

Curly and even frizzy hair is not uncommon in the European North-West. This is not at all suggestive of sub-saharan ancestry.

http://www.nfs.is/resources/Thumbnails/391_r695_IMG_0033.JPG

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/16_johnc_lgl.jpg

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/10/10/images/willferrell.jpg

[Spaniard_Truth]

Curly and even frizzy hair is not uncommon in the European North-West. This is not at all suggestive of sub-saharan ancestry.

http://www.nfs.is/resources/Thumbnails/391_r695_IMG_0033.JPG

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/16_johnc_lgl.jpg

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/10/10/images/willferrell.jpg

The latter two don't have frizzy negroid hair. I've seen people like the first guy all over Europe, but who knows what their ancestry is? Jews often have such hair. Maybe they are part Jewish, who are in turn part Negroid?

[Útrám]

The latter two don't have frizzy negroid hair. I've seen people like the first guy all over Europe, but who knows what their ancestry is? Jews often have such hair. Maybe they are part Jewish, who are in turn part Negroid?

The first picture is an Icelandic basketball player, the second and third are Irish-Americans.

[Treffie]

A face has a thousand subtleties that blend to create an overall impression. He's obviously not more than 1/4, so he has no 'pure' Negroid features (eg. prognathism, broad nose, curly hair etc.), yet African ancestry is obvious in his eye form and cranial structure. In fact, most of his features are subtly negroid. Each by itself wouldn't be any cause for alarm, yet all together trigger a gut feeling as to his foreignness.

The fact that a quick Google search yields countless threads discussing his ancestry (and mentioning Negroid in particular) only support the suspicion. Last of all, he's cast as a member of a (mixed) ethnicity. Why, when his ethnicity has never been integral to a storyline, would they choose a mulatto father to make a short appearance?


I'm very glad that you've re-opened this thread because Ryan Thomas especially was a dubious character, I could never make out if he was considered a `dark Brit` or had some other ancestry. I've looked for ages and could never come up with anything! I've just looked up his brother, another actor, Adam Thomas, and there is definitely something there.
I don't see forums as concrete proof.

http://www.grangehillfans.co.uk/starfile/images/Reece_Noi.jpg

[Guapo]

Curly and even frizzy hair is not uncommon in the European North-West. This is not at all suggestive of sub-saharan ancestry.


Its a UP trait as far as I know.

[Goidelic]

I'm very glad that you've re-opened this thread because Ryan Thomas especially was a dubious character, I could never make out if he was considered a `dark Brit` or had some other ancestry. I've looked for ages and could never come up with anything! I've just looked up his brother, another actor, Adam Thomas, and there is definitely something there.
I don't see forums as concrete proof.

http://www.grangehillfans.co.uk/starfile/images/Reece_Noi.jpg

One thing to consider is that a lot of Southern Euros and Italians settled in Britain during the Industrial Revolution he just might be the "distant Neolithic Italian descended odd man out." ;)

Ryan Thomas gives me a Sicilian vibe as well. He could pass as having distant North African ancestry and further back from that ancient Sub-Saharan ancestry based on pigmentation and strength. There is no way he is all indigenous English, like a Paleo/Medieval Englishman, no way. I'd like to see his genealogical profile if I may request such. :thumb001:;)

[Spaniard_Truth]

One thing to consider is that a lot of Southern Euros and Italians settled in Britain during the Industrial Revolution he just might be the "distant Neolithic Italian descended odd man out." ;)

Ryan Thomas gives me a Sicilian vibe as well. He could pass as having distant North African ancestry and further back from that ancient Sub-Saharan ancestry based on pigmentation and strength. There is no way he is all indigenous English, like a Paleo/Medieval Englishman, no way. I'd like to see his genealogical profile if I may request such. :thumb001:;)

He's part Negro. He even has a negro haircut (i.e. he acknowledges his negro ancestry).

I don't believe many Southern Europeans settled in Britain during the industrial revolution. At least I've never heard of that.

http://www.ancestry.com/facts/sanchez-family-history-uk.ashx doesn't suggest there was much Spaniard presence. Italian presence was mainly London based. The only immigrants the British industrial revolution attracted were Irish.

[Amarantine]

Concerning a curly hair just to know that a lot of red haired people has very curly (natural of course) hair, and their type of single hair in the structure is different then other types of curly hair.

[Treffie]

http://www.ancestry.com/facts/sanchez-family-history-uk.ashx doesn't suggest there was much Spaniard presence. Italian presence was mainly London based. The only immigrants the British industrial revolution attracted were Irish.

25% of Italian immigrants into Britain settled in my part of Wales. ;)

[Freomæg]

25% of Italian immigrants into Britain settled in my part of Wales. ;)
Does that explain the dark features of many Welshmen or is that still largely due to Wales harbouring the remnants of Neolithic Britons?

[Treffie]

Does that explain the dark features of many Welshmen or is that still largely due to Wales harbouring the remnants of Neolithic Britons?

I think it's a bit of both to be honest, the indigenous population were originally darker than most parts of the country, so I think the immigrant Italian population probably added to it.

[Osweo]

Is it me, Tref, or is this 'little dark' look more prevalent in the English Marcher counties than over the border itself? Around Shrewsbury, Ross on Wye, Tewkesbury sort of thing. I towered over people in Ross! :P
Or do these towns just attract people from the wider region, to parade them more 'en masse' to the visitor than would be the case in the smaller towns over the border?

[Birka]

Curly and even frizzy hair is not uncommon in the European North-West. This is not at all suggestive of sub-saharan ancestry.

http://www.nfs.is/resources/Thumbnails/391_r695_IMG_0033.JPG

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/16_johnc_lgl.jpg

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2007/10/10/images/willferrell.jpg

John C. Riley, in the middle picture is of Irish and Lithuanian ancestry. Is he an extreme Brunn or Cro-Mag?

[Treffie]

Is it me, Tref, or is this 'little dark' look more prevalent in the English Marcher counties than over the border itself? Around Shrewsbury, Ross on Wye, Tewkesbury sort of thing. I towered over people in Ross! :P
Or do these towns just attract people from the wider region, to parade them more 'en masse' to the visitor than would be the case in the smaller towns over the border?

To be honest with you Oswiu the last time I ventured to that part of the world was about 5 years ago, but I don't think I would have taken much notice. Now that you mention it though, I currently deal with a school in Oswestry, Shropshire and most of the staff live west of the border for some unknown reason. On a side note, it's quite an unusual town for England - on market day, Welsh can be heard just as much as English. :)

This is an old school friend of mine (not the wallaby!)

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1284/31/41/627216977/n627216977_1657246_1142.jpg

[SilverFish]

John C. Riley, in the middle picture is of Irish and Lithuanian ancestry. Is he an extreme Brunn or Cro-Mag?

Extreme Bruenn.

[la bombe]

When I first saw Kimberley Walsh from Girls Aloud I thought she was part black, or something more 'exotic' than English but I guess not

http://images.teamsugar.com/files/upl1/20/202476/46_2008/52bf42dff66ed49f_kimberley-walsh-birthday-quiz.jpg
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/kimberley-walsh-gal-fhm08.jpg
http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Girls+Aloud+Launch+New+Samsung+F210+Purple+wPjA3HY CgHPl.jpg

[Tony]

Same suspicion here for Jane Goody

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/Jane+Goody+Arriving+Heathrow+Airport+Sd6t8eTsqFdl. jpg

http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/janegoody12.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/Goody.jpg/220px-Goody.jpg

[Troll's Puzzle]

Jade Goody does in fact have negroid ancestry, her dad was a mulatto.

(which might explain her intelligence level :D)

he even claimed it was racist to say she looked like a pig, because her appearance was due to her 'west indian heritage' - read here (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-430263/Jade-black-roots-Grandpa-Winston.html)/

[strongmagic]

I didn't know that there were people who actually knew of Jade Goody and didn't know her ancestry. She is undoubtedly 1/4 caribbean and I think she shows it a bit. She has two 1/8 black sons both of them look completely white her youngest however looks like a towheaded depigmented nordic swede and shows absolutely no sign of African ancestry whatsoever.

[strongmagic]

Jade Goody's sons and their father.

[Grey]

Aye, she looks like my Mam, to tell the truth! :p

Mind you, we do wind her up by calling her 'the Dalai Lama' when she laughs too much, making her eyes extra squinty... :D

Looks like my mom too. I don't see what's so foreign to be honest; she just looks British IMO.

[Motörhead Remember Me]

Funny. I didn't find anyone to be exotic by British standards. They all fit in Britain better than anywhere else!

[Stefan]

And here I thought I would look somewhat exotic.....

[strongmagic]

Well for all the comments above you guys have alot to learn there are people I know with confirmed mixed African, Native,and other ethnicities who look way less exotic than many of these people. Note once again just take a look at Jade Goody's youngest son who is 1/8 black who doesn't look exotic at all.

[Freomæg]

Yes. The 'exoticness' of one's look proves nothing, ultimately. It can suggest something, but actually proves nothing.

[Majar]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/images/bank/programmes_tv/ent/300coupling_mylan.jpg

His hair is negroid. Wikipedia states he's from Swansea, which is a port town, and therefore non-European ancestry is far from inconceivable.

Yes, some Africans have hair like that, but only after they put conditioning chemicals on it to get spirals like that. Natural nappy hair looks like this (http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1466/7360971/14017281/210991245.jpg).

[strongmagic]

Majar you are obviously somewhat limited in your information. Many people of African Descent can and do have hair like that obviously they won't be 100 percent Bantu but I don't think anyone asserted that this guy could ever be. Many African Americans have hair like that and it is often accompanied by lighter features as well as some Ethiopians and Somalians. If he however is proven somehow to be unmixed that means there is alot more variation in caucasians than I thought possible.

[hereward]

When someone looks exotic it is because they, in all probabillity, have ancestry that is exotic. I am from London originally, you get to see practically every mix possible. I too believe that the mylan fella has west indian ancestry, the funny thing is that if he was in London, most west indians and indians would think of him as being mixed race, never mind the English. With regards to these types of photo's, no one can proove 100% what there background is, as the person in questions ancestry is not known. For those of you from our Islands, please remember the great demograhic change on our populations since the late 1700's, take nothing for granted.

[man of kent]

More 'Exotic' looking Brits:

Scotland

Graeme Souness

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/images/uploads/StandardSize-320x240/Scotland/IntRollofHonour/921659.jpg

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/gallery/top20-worldcup-haircuts/pa-1186264.jpg

John Gorman

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/54783000/jpg/_54783226_nor_v_dons_john_gorman.jpg

http://www.mkdons.com/javaImages/5e/1/0,,10420~10355038,00.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/threecounties/content/images/2004/11/30/john_gorman2_203_203x152.jpg

John Laurie

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/12_02/frazerDM1112_228x374.jpg

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsL/tve9961-19691023-82.gif

England

Tom Daley

http://img.skysports.com/11/04/660x350/Tom-Daley-March-2011_2584840.jpg

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Thomas+Daley+FINA+Diving+World+Series+Preview+24Ew JD9gN8el.jpg


Alexander Armstrong

http://i2.listal.com/image/1479789/600full-alexander-armstrong.jpg

http://www.celebs101.com/gallery/Alexander_Armstrong/291624/Alexander_Armstrong_Picture.jpg

Matthew Etherington

http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/14/2012/324x324/43570.jpg

http://img.skysports.com/10/09/460x238/MatthewEtherington_2508694.jpg

Charlie Daniels

http://www.gillinghamfootballclub.com/javaImages/55/20/0,,10416~3809365,00.jpg

http://www.leytonorient.com/javaImages/21/50/0,,10439~9850913,00.jpg

[Neanderthal]

Holy shit, he is like my ex-GF father's look-a-like. :eek:

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/54783000/jpg/_54783226_nor_v_dons_john_gorman.jpg

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/6027/110108v229.jpg

He is of Scottish ancestry too tho.

[Hess]

I suppose Welsh Actor Hugh Griffith looks "exotic" if we believe in the stereotype of all British people being blonde and blue eyed.
http://images.tvrage.com/people/2/4372.jpg

[Northern_Sun]

I don't know why nobody mentioned Victoria Beckham yet. I always thought she looked quite exotic to be British. If you look at photos of her when she was young, before all the surgery, her nose looks very strange.


Before and After

http://alteredidentity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/victoria_beckham_nose.jpg

http://www.cosmeticsurgerytruth.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/posh17.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bHsWZCcnUgY/TrOvolPKKVI/AAAAAAAABWs/2nNEL2RbMmQ/s640/4BBACB7D-CE36-FA05-7F4AA48738AB7AC8.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fDmzvCaSc78/TnGtjNQDKvI/AAAAAAAAAKc/c0-uIodOyl4/s640/victoria-beckham-new-hair-photo.jpg

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpejP4zp8iuMZaHq1yDhreS1ad20wZt 9zRBPPn1sfvZE-sAz9ZnkS45I0thQ


On some photos she looks like she could have African ancestry, as she reminds me of Halle Berry.


Victoria

http://cdn.thegloss.com/files/2008/09/nc-victoria-beckham.jpg


Halle
http://cancerandcandy.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/halle-berry-short-hair1.jpg

[RottenBeauty]

Robert Sheehan

http://willowbatel.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/misfits_s2_robert_sheehan_001.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Tr95tI9lVxU/TVp4-Bcx_KI/AAAAAAAAaS8/jkXsSJpb0NI/s1600/600f++-robert-sheehan.jpg

[morski]

So can I pass as dark Brit?:D

[Mordid]

Robert Sheehan

http://willowbatel.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/misfits_s2_robert_sheehan_001.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Tr95tI9lVxU/TVp4-Bcx_KI/AAAAAAAAaS8/jkXsSJpb0NI/s1600/600f++-robert-sheehan.jpg
My favourite character from misfits. :D He's not Brit, but Irish. :p

[Pallantides]

I have seen some Norwegian and Danish chicks with simillar look as Victoria Beckham. Also Danish model Freja Beha Erichsen have a sort of simillar look to her.

[billErobreren]

& Freja is pretty much your everyday Danish girl. I never got the fuzz over her on how gorgeous she is:rolleyes: she just looks typical, boobless & in need of a sandwich but typical nonetheless

[billErobreren]

I don't think they're exotic but most people don't think of people like this when Great Britain & Ireland comes to mind

anyways was Tom Jones already mentioned?
http://the60sofficialsite.com/images/tom-jones.jpg
John Lynch would probably fit peoples idea of an Italian or Frenchman
http://www.joanneobrien.co.uk/uploads/05_John-Lynch.jpg
This guy always gave me a Dutch/Scandinavian & at times French too:scratch: I really don't know why
http://www.mostbeautifulman.com/actors/BenBarnes/images/pic04.jpg
I guess here's another
http://world-news-artist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/david-suchet-world-news-artist.jpg

[Korbis]

Not that exotic, certainly. You have weird notions about Britain and europe as a whole and how we "should" look like there in the states. I think its due to the input of german and dutch inmigrants over the white anglos which kept a high level of "blondism" on average and represent the WASP culture, while american swarthier types often blend with all the hispanic, italians and jews you have around.

[Supreme American]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/images/bank/programmes_tv/ent/300coupling_mylan.jpg

Curly hair doesn't mean anything. From a strict morphological viewpoint he's a complete Europid, but defiantly exotic to the British isle, he looks like he's from Pakistan or India to me.

He's got quite a non-white admixture. By the hair alone, I'd suggest Jewish or semi-distant black.

The only reason a Brit would look "exotic" is that they aren't white.

[Hess]

The only reason a Brit would look "exotic" is that they aren't white.



There is a laundry list of reasons as to why a British person (or anyone else, for that matter) would look "exotic". As tempting as it is to point fingers and call people "Non-White" (as if that means something), genetics and anthropology in general much much more complex than just White/Non-White

[Dr. van Winkle]

The only reason a Brit would look "exotic" is that they aren't white.

"White" is a socio-cultural term rather than a biological category.

Ethnic looking Hollywood actors of mestizo ancestry like Johnny Depp are widely accepted as white in the U.S.. This reveals how dysfunctional the white/non-white ideology really is.

It's pointless to argue about which Northern Europeans are white and which are not, because from a genetic point of view obviously most are white, even if they have black or curly hair.

Would you consider Agrippa as non-white because of his black hair? That's silly.

[Pallantides]

Johnny Depp looks European to me. Apart from being a bit dark he never looked very exotic imo.

[Hess]

"White" is a socio-cultural term rather than a biological category.

Ethnic looking Hollywood actors of Mestizo ancestry like Johnny Depp are widely accepted as white in the U.S.. This reveals how dysfunctional the white/non-white ideology really is.

It's pointless to argue about which Northern Europeans are white and which are not, because from a genetic point of view obviously most are white, even if they have black or curly hair.

Would you consider Agrippa as non-white because of his black hair? That's silly.

exactly.


just to add on to these great points, during my time living in America I have seen many light complexioned Turks and Jews accepted as "white" and many real Europeans (Cretans, Maltese, etc) being treated as Mexicans :rolleyes:

[Dr. van Winkle]

Johnny Depp looks European.

His great-grandmother was Amerindian.

Even if he is pred. Caucasoid, his face literally screams "American mestizo".

[Pallantides]

His great-grandmother was Amerindian.

Even if he is pred. Caucasoid, his face literally screams "American mestizo".

He claims he got Cherokee ancestry, but it's not confirmed I believe since none of his ancestors appear on the Daws rolls.



He don't really look much more exotic than someone like Horst Buchholz:
http://i.imgur.com/GmxM2.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_p2gmq6jlgZc/TEwQQnw9rmI/AAAAAAAAAHw/0SW4NpJ5tLE/s1600/Horst+Buchholz.jpg

[007]

"David Suchet's father was Lithuanian Jewish and his mother was Anglican (she was of Russian Jewish descent on her own father's side, and of English descent on her mother's side)"

From Wikipedia

http://world-news-artist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/david-suchet-world-news-artist.jpg

[morski]

Johnny Depp looks European to me. Apart from being a bit dark he never looked very exotic imo.

What about Keeanu Reeves? I believe they accept him for white as well in the States.

[billErobreren]

Not that exotic, certainly. You have weird notions about Britain and europe as a whole and how we "should" look like there in the states. I think its due to the input of german and dutch inmigrants over the white anglos which kept a high level of "blondism" on average and represent the WASP culture, while american swarthier types often blend with all the hispanic, italians and jews you have around.

:blink:

Let me just quote myself

I don't think they're exotic but most people don't think of people like this when Great Britain & Ireland comes to mind
there:coffee:(although I always had my suspicions about the bald guy) I don't even know what Jews look like on average there aren't any in this area:rolleyes:

[GeistFaust]

exactly.


just to add on to these great points, during my time living in America I have seen many light complexioned Turks and Jews accepted as "white" and many real Europeans (Cretans, Maltese, etc) being treated as Mexicans :rolleyes:




This is why I am all in favor for re-instituting a one drop policy, that mimics the Jim Crow laws. Its the only way we can have any racial honesty or integrity within society, instead of having to deal with this nonsense that we are all one. This is the mentality the Plutocrats, Nanny Feminist Liberals, and Chauvinist Non-White groups want you to believe in.



It fits into both of these parties agendas, but in whole the Plutocrats and Politicians come out the victors. The Plutocrats get their large sums of money, which they also have chained the politicians to, and the politicians have gotten their ideals and agendas out there via the money flow of the Plutocrats.


Its all one big cash trail full of corruption and distortion, and it can be found in the overtly consumerist nature of the culture we live, which is signified by these big businesses. If you go to a Wal-Mart or Sams in the U.S. a large part of the people that go there are minorities(Blacks and Hispanics), coupled with white trash, and a few middle class people.


The middle class has not been spared the enforcement of the politicians agendas and ideologies, but they have not fared as badly as the minority groups. The minority groups have basically been bred and born to be absorbers of political ideas and agendas that have a corrupt or degenerate connotation attached to them.


They can't think for themselves, they live more immoral lives on average, and they have no concept of discipline or self-control, which makes them the perfect advertising boards for big organizations and politicians. The big organizations and politicians will make it seem they are working for the small man, and want the best for everybody, but in actuality they only care about pushing their own ideals and agendas.


They push these ideas and agendas on the population through their human instruments and suck puppets found in the lower classes and sometimes in the middle class. The Plutocrats use their huge amount of cash to bait everyone into the ideologies and agendas, and to make animals of humans when projecting or reacting to certain socio-political ideals or agendas.


They basically have found a way to domesticate certain inferior groups in the populations, and make them into a violent force to exploit and unleash the underlying tensions between class and racial divide. The agenda has been to exploit the racial tension which coincides with class status, and I think in large part Hispanics and Blacks should forever be kept at the level of the working class.


I am a White Supremacist in the mold of Lincoln and other Post-Reconstruction political theorists and thinkers. I believe this nation was founded by white men, and it would be dishonest to let it become anything else in large part. I am not in support for a mixed or diverse population, because there are too many wants/needs on both sides, that eventually the inferior side will dominate if we give them a chance to compete.



This is because as we have seen certain liberal agendas enforced through political correctness will project a certain morbid kind of guilt, which will keep us from affirming our own cultural and ethnic identity. It will also keep us from trying to refrain and constrain the abuses and violations made by the inferior races.



I think this plays into the hands of the Plutocrats and Politicians in advancing their corrupt socio-political agendas and ideologies, which are in actuality laddled with a greed and selfishness oriented around big money and big business.


I think enforcing the one drop policy, drawing up definitions and terms for a new understanding of the bio-cultural identity of peoples that aligns itself with a traditional perspective, and constructing the boundaries around these definitions and terms should be of the utmost importance to a new society in America.


I think it will keep certain insidious socio-political ideologies, who derive a lot of power from reducing racial identity to a merely socio-cultural or socio-environmental identity. It will keep certain rabid and insidious chauvinistic minority groups from suppressing or repressing the system, which in a large part is promoted and advocated for power hungry politicians and corrupt Plutocrats.


Then we can work on keeping White Chauvinist groups from getting out of control, and maintaining a society that inclines towards racial homogeneity in terms of its class and power structure.



At the same time this racial absolutism will be founded and grounded on the original constitutional values of the founding father, and will align itself with a system of checks and balances. Getting back on topic, I find many exotic British centers around more Southern looking phenotypes as is well known. Paleo-Atlantid types and even North Atlantid types with a Mediterranid influence seem to get confused with more Southern peoples at times.


It seems that this concept is further exaggerated in the New World due to the fact that it seems like a lot of the British that did come over to the New World where from more Eastern parts of Great Britain.


This is why the American perspective regarding race can be a bit skewed, because it is narrow regarding the types it has to deal with. I certainly would say that there are types, which are truly exotic looking. Brad Paisley, who is of Scottish ancestry, always came off as a bit exotic to me.

[Jack B]

It seems that this concept is further exaggerated in the New World due to the fact that it seems like a lot of the British that did come over to the New World where from more Eastern parts of Great Britain.


This is why the American perspective regarding race can be a bit skewed, because it is narrow regarding the types it has to deal with.

I think it also has to do with the fact that in a melting pot of ethnicities and looks people will attribute a certain look to a group they expect it to come from, therefore if the stereotype of an Italian is some tan dude with dark hair then these features will be attributed to his Italian side if he is Irish/Italian or whatever, regardless of the fact that his Italian side could be filled with blondes. The stereotype gets strengthened not challenged.

In Europe we see looks that wouldn't be assosciated with our group in a melting pot like the USA everyday, so to us they aren't seen as exotic and in some cases are actually thought of as quite regular/common and we don't get the big deal when a foreigner can't put the look with what they have been taught to expect.

[Dr. van Winkle]

He don't really look much more exotic than someone like Horst Buchholz

East German actor Horst Buchholz had a much stronger facial relief and his hair was brown, not black as that of Johnny Depp. I'm tempted to classify Buchholz as a Balto-Cromagnoid mix.

The underlying difference between them is that Balto-Cromagnoids are native to the European continent, whereas Indianid-mixtures are clearly not.

He claims he got Cherokee ancestry, but it's not confirmed I believe since none of his ancestors appear on the Daws rolls.

Johnny Depp's Amerindian ancestry definitely shows.

Here I have put him into comparison with a Latino immigrant:

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5810/johnnydepp2y.jpg

Why is Johnny Depp considered white and the Latino not? They are both a mixture of Caucasoid and Indianid lineages and have approximately the same appearance.

The U.S. definition of what constitutes whiteness appears to be blurry. In the future, it will be inevitably become more open to predominantly Caucasoid mixed-race persons.

The number of babies born to U.S. minorities already outnumbers that of babies born to whites. White Americans will be in the minority by 2019, the Census Bureau announced.

American liberalism and the destruction of the white race are two sides of the same coin.

[Pallantides]

Well some people on here claimed they could see the "Amerindian" in this woman:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40971&page=2

It's possible that Johnny Depp got Amerindian ancestry, but it's also possible he don't, his claim have not exactly been verified.


I think this Norwegian would be suspected of having Amerindian ancestry as well if he was American:
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lindesnes/lindesnes22.jpg

[billErobreren]

East German actor Horst Buchholz had a much stronger facial relief and his hair was brown, not black as that of Johnny Depp. I'm tempted to classify Buchholz as a Balto-Cromagnoid mix.

The underlying difference between them is that Balto-Cromagnoids are native to the European continent, whereas Indianid-mixtures are clearly not.


Johnny Depp's Amerindian ancestry definitely shows.

Here I have put him into comparison with a Latino immigrant:

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5810/johnnydepp2y.jpg

Why is Johnny Depp considered white and the Latino not? They are both a mixture of Caucasoid and Indianid lineages and have approximately the same appearance.

The U.S. definition of what constitutes whiteness appears to be blurry. In the future, it will be inevitably become more open to predominantly Caucasoid mixed-race persons.

The number of babies born to U.S. minorities already outnumbers that of babies born to whites. White Americans will be in the minority by 2019, the Census Bureau announced.

American liberalism and the destruction of the white race are two sides of the same coin.

actually that's Benjamin Bratt & he's no immigrant but his mother is Peruvian.

[GeistFaust]

East German actor Horst Buchholz had a much stronger facial relief and his hair was brown, not black as that of Johnny Depp. I'm tempted to classify Buchholz as a Balto-Cromagnoid mix.

The underlying difference between them is that Balto-Cromagnoids are native to the European continent, whereas Indianid-mixtures are clearly not.


Johnny Depp's Amerindian ancestry definitely shows.

Here I have put him into comparison with a Latino immigrant:

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5810/johnnydepp2y.jpg

Why is Johnny Depp considered white and the Latino not? They are both a mixture of Caucasoid and Indianid lineages and have approximately the same appearance.

The U.S. definition of what constitutes whiteness appears to be blurry. In the future, it will be inevitably become more open to predominantly Caucasoid mixed-race persons.

The number of babies born to U.S. minorities already outnumbers that of babies born to whites. White Americans will be in the minority by 2019, the Census Bureau announced.

American liberalism and the destruction of the white race are two sides of the same coin.


This is a good post, and I will have to say that its ambiguity, that is the term white as it applies to humans, is becoming a bit more defined. This is we will accept half whites as white in the future, or anyone who looks white for that matter. There is a huge problem that comes along with this, and it does not have to do with the people who are not white, but also people who make look white, but don't actually have any connection with the meaning which white denotes.


The term white in a racial sense basically denotes all people of European lineage more or less. If you reduce white simply to a matter of skin color then you are undermining and cutting out the essential meaning, which white wishes to denote. This is the fundamental problem with language as well.



That which we wish to define in its utmost meaning, becomes lost in a coinciding quality or property, which correlates to the utmost meaning at times, but does not always do so. White looking Semitic people, North Africans, and even Asians probably can be considered white in the near future, not to mention all the mixes and half-breeds.


This will create an even greater degree of ambiguity, and we will dealt with a racial mess of epic proportions on so many levels within society, culture, and politics. Its almost as if we might as well come up with new terminologies to apply to these "New Races" which are cropping up or just claiming everyone to be human.



The former option will leave us in a situation resembling the Latin American countries, which we are heading to within the West. The latter option will completely strip humans of their cultural and linguistic identity in its purest and most authentic form. This is something the Plutocrats are working for through an over emphasis on money, consumerism, and materialism.



I know this all sounds cliche after a while, but it is the truth, and one people pass over or even ignore as crazy. This is why in large part a one drop policy was needed so such a disaster would not happen in America and other Western countries like it did with so many of the Latin American countries. Racial identity is being reduced from a bio-cultural to a socio-cultural definition as you stated earlier in one of your posts.


I think that in essence the substratum of a people's identity can be found first in their language and culture, but without a bio-cultural or ethnic identity I think the linguistic and socio-cultural component loses all its substance. Its the bio-cultural identity of a nation which mends it together and makes it strong, and it is when the national spirit centers around this identity and driven on by it that it can be truly authentic.



The greatest cultures should and have had a strong understanding on blood and kinship in relation to the land, nature, and the soil. It is nature itself which imbues on people a sense of its unity, which manifests itself biologically, and just like members of a family it is something which bonds people in an unseparable union, which indicates itself in linguistic and cultural operations.

The attack on the bio-cultural identity of a man is an attack on the very heart of the tribal and family spirit of man, which has served as an essential catalyst to all that is human and all that is divine. The ambiguity in racial classification and terminology reflects the empty and void materialism which is advocated for today.


Relationships are built more on superficial and artificial whims and sensibilities, which are heavily sexualized and materialized, to the point where the racial identity has been negated from the human consciousness.

[Prismane]

Leon Britton, a Londoner
http://www.fansfc.com/UploadedImages/Players/Leon%20Britton_633590610028750000.jpg

[RottenBeauty]

Johnny Depp looks Native influenced to me, but I do not care one way or the other.

[Korbis]

Leon Britton, a Londoner
http://www.fansfc.com/UploadedImages/Players/Leon%20Britton_633590610028750000.jpg


Looks like an (ugly) Welshman.

Def not exotic or extremely rare, though Im sure if he ever go to the states he would be mistaken for a mexican.

[Ebrel]

This "Claire Short" is 63 years old; all people's eyes start to droop like that with old age. Let's see a photo of her at age 30 for comparison!
An ancient post I know, but...

Here's a picture of her in her early 20s. I think she still looks rather "exotic". She has an interesting face.

http://www.clareshort.co.uk/gallery/Clare_Short_Graduation.jpg

[Svartálfar]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/Joseph_Gilgun_2009_cropped.jpg/220px-Joseph_Gilgun_2009_cropped.jpg

Joseph Gilgun

[Mordid]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/Joseph_Gilgun_2009_cropped.jpg/220px-Joseph_Gilgun_2009_cropped.jpg

Joseph Gilgun
Are you serious?

[Ebrel]

Joseph Gilgun
He looks like a long-lost Gallagher brother. I wonder if he has Irish heritage.

[Pallantides]

An ancient post I know, but...

Here's a picture of her in her early 20s. I think she still looks rather "exotic". She has an interesting face.

http://www.clareshort.co.uk/gallery/Clare_Short_Graduation.jpg

She don't really strike me as that exotic when she was young, but I'm not British so I can't really say how she would be precived there .

[rashka]

I always thought this guy's look was strange for a Northumberland'er:
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4962/rowanatkinson.jpg

Mr. Bean's my favorite exotic Brit. I just love him. I would marry him if he was younger. ;)

[Östsvensk]

Diana Rigg, English:

http://www.howmuchdotheyweigh.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Diana-Rigg.jpg

Benedict Cumberbatch, English:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YiA8QxPfkjE/TeuZ4m-snYI/AAAAAAAAFho/_2OSlrnGAME/s1600/Benedict%252BCumberbatch%252BNational%252BLottery% 252BAwards%252BqFzIJvCaPlPl.jpg
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Benedict+Cumberbatch+2010+Summer+TCA+Tour+-g1rGlP-pUTl.jpg

Matt Milne:

http://unitedagents.co.uk/sites/default/files/matt%20milne.jpg
http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2012/01/09/214576-actor-matt-milne-attends-the-uk-premiere-of-war-horse-in-london.jpg

[Mordid]

Benedict Cumberbatch, English:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YiA8QxPfkjE/TeuZ4m-snYI/AAAAAAAAFho/_2OSlrnGAME/s1600/Benedict%252BCumberbatch%252BNational%252BLottery% 252BAwards%252BqFzIJvCaPlPl.jpg
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Benedict+Cumberbatch+2010+Summer+TCA+Tour+-g1rGlP-pUTl.jpg

Fairly common look among English people, nothing exotic about his look.

[Östsvensk]

Fairly common look among English people, nothing exotic about his look.

If he was American, people would be screaming "NATIVE-ADMIXED" all over the place.

[hajduk]

He just has strong CM admixture.

[Treffie]

Fairly common look among English people, nothing exotic about his look.

He still looks British, but he IS odd looking

[Mordid]

If he was American, people would be screaming "NATIVE-ADMIXED" all over the place.
If he were Ostsvensk, he don't know what he's talking about. To be honest with you, I don't see any Amerindian from him. He just look like regular North-West Euro gentlemen.

[Pallantides]

If he was American, people would be screaming "NATIVE-ADMIXED" all over the place.

Really? :confused:



None of them look that exotic imo.

[Mordid]

He just has strong CM admixture.
Pred. Keltic Nordid with Cromagnoid influence would be my classification for him.

He still looks British, but he IS odd looking
It's the eyeshape what give him odd look, but overall, he doesn't strike me as foreign look.

[Treffie]

I guess here's another
http://world-news-artist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/david-suchet-world-news-artist.jpg

Jewish grandfather


He's got quite a non-white admixture. By the hair alone, I'd suggest Jewish or semi-distant black.

The only reason a Brit would look "exotic" is that they aren't white.

I was in school with Richard Mylan, he lived in the same village as me. We used to tease him about his appearance, but there's no foreign mixture in his family. His parents and his sister (Teresa) all look white as sheets. :D

[Östsvensk]

If he were Ostsvensk, he don't know what he's talking about. To be honest with you, I don't see any Amerindian from him. He just look like regular North-West Euro gentlemen.

Compare to Meg Tilly (she is Eurasian):

http://www.jsrpages.co.uk/scanst/tillym/Meg_Tilly-q%20%289%29.jpg

She had some of the least votes in a thread on who would be seen as white in the US (on another forum).

[Pallantides]

Benedict Cumberbatch looks a bit like that Scottish hacker Gary McKinnon
http://www.ufoera.com/images/ufo/gary-mckinnon_095.jpg


Compare to Meg Tilly (she is Eurasian):

http://www.jsrpages.co.uk/scanst/tillym/Meg_Tilly-q%20%289%29.jpg

She had some oyf the least votes in a thread on who would be seen as white in the US (on another forum).

The really don't look much alike imo.

[Östsvensk]

The really don't look much alike imo.

No, they don't. But they have similar eyeshapes. And I do not see anything else on Tilly that American racial inspectors would see as "off". But I'm not much of an inspector myself, so what do I know... :D

[Mordid]

Östsvensk, i don't know whether you are blind or troll.

[Östsvensk]

Östsvensk, i don't know whether you are blind or troll.

I'll go with blind. :thumb001:

I'm not implying that he is "Amerindian", but only that he has something exotic about his eyeshape.

[Mordid]

I'll go with blind. :thumb001:
My thought exactly.

[Aviane]

Exotic Brits are even Lappish or Western Asian/North African.

[Lábaru]

to the eyes of a British Andrew Lee Potts is exotic or typical?

http://pics.livejournal.com/textualdeviance/pic/0006yswc

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg214/scaled.php?server=214&filename=182970.jpg&res=medium

I guess he fits into the British spectrum.

[Osweo]

to the eyes of a British Andrew Lee Potts is exotic or typical?

http://pics.livejournal.com/textualdeviance/pic/0006yswc

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg214/scaled.php?server=214&filename=182970.jpg&res=medium

I guess he fits into the British spectrum.

A little weird looking, but wouldn't stand out. Why, what is he?

[Sikeliot]

Exotic Brits are even Lappish or Western Asian/North African.

Not so much that but I posted an Irish woman on here once who looked very rare for Northern Europe or Ireland in total and looked almost Moroccan/Berber.

[Lábaru]

A little weird looking, but wouldn't stand out. Why, what is he?

He is an actor that I see on a TV British series.

[Korbis]

Yep, the geek from Primeval, that show with cheap CGI dinosaurs and monsters.

Pretty average looking. Looks a bit irish...

[zack]

Here is a guy I'm subscribed on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vPEx9uYh5Q&feature=channel

[Septentrion]

Yeah this guy could be English/Irish/Scottish/Welsh.

[Septentrion]

These two guys have nothing of African ancestry. They rather look like Cro-Magnid in phenotype.

[Septentrion]

Kate's cute