Most unmixed Slavs?

[21993]

Which Slavic nation or ethnicity is the most unmixed one? In other words, which Slavic nation or ethnicity has the most proto-Slavic DNA?

[Dušan]

Ukrainians and Poles, in my opinion.

[Ülev]

no! Polish pan-Slavists can be of R1b-DF27

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Belarusians by far.

[PaleoEuropean]

Slavs by nature are mixed like the Celts were, they weren't a singular people.

[21993]

Slavs by nature are mixed like the Celts were, they weren't a singular people.

Of course, but who were the most unmixed ones then?

[PaleoEuropean]

Of course, but who were the most unmixed ones then?

You would have to discount a lot of countries because of their German influence so probably Moscovy since they are the furthermost away from Norse and German genetics.

[Csanád]

Cumans

[Ayetooey]

East Poland/West Belarus.

[MiloshN]

Ukraine? :D

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Culturally Avar early medieval Slav from Hungary:

Eurogenes K15 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

1 Baltic 32.91
2 North_Sea 22.32
3 Atlantic 20.8
4 Eastern_Euro 19
5 West_Med 4.96

Single Population Sharing:

1 Belorussian 5.28
2 Polish 5.62
3 Estonian_Polish 5.92
4 Lithuanian 6.53
5 Russian_Smolensk 6.72
6 Estonian 7.03
7 South_Polish 8.01
8 Southwest_Russian 8.63
9 Ukrainian 9
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.51
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.8
12 Kargopol_Russian 13.08
13 Southwest_Finnish 13.24
14 Finnish 13.34
15 Croatian 13.93
16 East_Finnish 14.23
17 La_Brana-1 14.94
18 Erzya 15.69
19 Hungarian 15.71
20 East_German 16.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 87.4% Lithuanian + 12.6% French_Basque @ 3.07
2 82.6% Lithuanian + 17.4% Southwest_English @ 3.41
3 82.2% Lithuanian + 17.8% Irish @ 3.41
4 82.5% Lithuanian + 17.5% Southeast_English @ 3.44
5 82.7% Lithuanian + 17.3% West_Scottish @ 3.48
6 85.6% Lithuanian + 14.4% Southwest_French @ 3.68
7 84.1% Lithuanian + 15.9% Orcadian @ 3.74
8 81.9% Lithuanian + 18.1% South_Dutch @ 3.77
9 81.9% Lithuanian + 18.1% Danish @ 3.77
10 82.1% Lithuanian + 17.9% North_Dutch @ 3.79
11 80.5% Lithuanian + 19.5% North_German @ 3.81
12 87% Lithuanian + 13% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.81
13 86.4% Lithuanian + 13.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.82
14 86% Lithuanian + 14% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.02
15 84.3% Lithuanian + 15.7% French @ 4.03
16 87.2% Lithuanian + 12.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.05
17 87% Lithuanian + 13% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.08
18 86.4% Lithuanian + 13.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.09
19 75.4% Lithuanian + 24.6% East_German @ 4.13
20 82.5% Lithuanian + 17.5% Norwegian @ 4.2

Least squares method:

1 50% Lithuanian +50% Polish @ 5.078148

[Satem]

Western Russia imo

[oszkar07]

You would have to discount a lot of countries because of their German influence so probably Moscovy since they are the furthermost away from Norse and German genetics.

they to some degree are mixed with finno-ugrics.

As for the OP i go with WhiteRussians , and Poles.

[ooops]

Ukraine

[Laag]

Poles and Belarusians mixed with Balts. Obviously they can't be "most unmixed Slavs".

[Slavic Italian]

Ukraine.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Poland has too much Celtic/Germanic in western parts, even some Balkan in southeast just like western Ukraine to be considered ''pure Slav''.


Poles and Belarusians mixed with Balts. Obviously they can't be "most unmixed Slavs".

I just posted early Slav result, it's closest to Belarus and pretty close to Lithuania. That's because both Slavs and Balts come from same root.
Baltic admixture is not really foreign to Slavs in a way western or southern Euro blood is, or Uralic in case of Russians.

[Aspirin]

Belarusians.

[Laag]

Poland has too much Celtic/Germanic in western parts, even some Balkan in southeast just like western Ukraine to be considered ''pure Slav''.



I just posted early Slav result, it's closest to Belarus and pretty close to Lithuania. That's because both Slavs and Balts come from same root.
Baltic admixture is not really foreign to Slavs in a way western or southern Euro blood is, or Uralic in case of Russians.

If Baltic admixture is not foreign then Finno-Ugric blood also is not foreign to Slavs. Northern Russian are close to Karelians or Komi-Zyrians. These two peoples just like Balts phenotypically are between Nordic and Baltic. Alpines or Meds are virtually non-existent in them.
In that case Poles, Belarusians and Russians are most unmixed Slavs.

[Peterski]

Western Russia, this area:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?282798-Kiev-Archaeological-Culture-Map&p=5893197&viewfull=1#post5893197


Map of Kiev culture with locations of modern cities (despite its name, Kiev was on the border not in the center of that culture):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiev_culture

https://i.imgur.com/UtImtwe.png

https://i.imgur.com/DzKzPSk.png

[Freeroostah]

Belorussians

West Slavs have a lot of Celtic-Germanic DNA as well

[Blondie]

vlachs

[Laag]

Typical Komi-Zyrian girl. She could be atypical in many of the Slavic peoples.
https://www.krags.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/wMk31trQJ7s.jpg

[Peterski]

Bryansk, Oryol, Belgorod, Kursk (these Oblasts have 60% R1a and 25% I2a-Din, if I remember correctly):

https://i.imgur.com/UtImtwe.png

Kursk is one of the most Slavic Oblasts, and a symbol of decisive Germanic defeat.

So I say Kursk Oblast is the most Slavic.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

If Baltic admixture is not foreign then Finno-Ugric blood also is not foreign to Slavs. Northern Russian are close to Karelians or Komi-Zyrians. These two peoples just like Balts phenotypically are between Nordic and Baltic. Alpines or Meds are virtually non-existent in them.
In that case Poles, Belarusians and Russians are most unmixed Slavs.

Uralics are not even Indo-European. Slavs and Balts originate from Balto-Slavic satem branch of IE. They're tightly related similary like Kelts and Germanics.
Do we even have proto Finnic genomes ?

[Peterski]

Slavs originated somewhere near Kursk, Belgorod, Oryol, Bryansk, and to the west as far as Biala Podlaska (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bia%C5%82a_Podlaska):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYo2NZxHV3A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c5hANrS6Gw

Proto-Slavic homeland is on the border of Eastern Poland / Northern Ukraine / Southern Belarus / Western Russia:

https://wczasypolskie.pl/zdjecia/mapa-polesia.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Polesia_map_-_topography.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cf/49/95/cf4995363b73727b47f4b23022c98e9f.jpg

[Slavic Italian]

Slavs originated somewhere near Kursk, Belgorod, Oryol, Bryansk, and to the west as far as Biala Podlaska (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bia%C5%82a_Podlaska):



This is why I got those regions on Tribes SNP Analysis. Makes sense now. I get Belgorod on Gedmatch a good bit.

6 Southeast_English + Ukrainian_Belgorod + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.415856

[Peterski]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnrXJ6CQ5us

[Laag]

Uralics are not even Indo-European. Slavs and Balts originate from Balto-Slavic satem branch of IE. They're tightly related similary like Kelts and Germanics.
Do we even have proto Finnic genomes ?

Uralic is just linguistic group. Balto-Finnic people and Northern Russians phenotypically probably most "Indo-Europeans" in whole Europe.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Uralic is just linguistic group. Balto-Finnic people and Northern Russians phenotypically probably most "Indo-Europeans" in whole Europe.

In Europe, all these groups are ethno-liguistic mate. It means back than first FU speakers had their own unique genetics. There's overlap with Balto-Slavs because both are mainly northeast Euro, but Uralics have extra mongoloid admixture.

[Slavic Italian]

In Europe, all these groups are ethno-liguistic mate. It means back than first FU speakers had their own unique genetics. There's overlap with Balto-Slavs because both are mainly northeast Euro, but Uralics have extra mongoloid admixture.

You know your stuff. That shows up on my IBD analysis as well. Here is one out of several examples.

Mongolian_mongol119 2.71084

[Blondie]

Uralic is just linguistic group. Balto-Finnic people and Northern Russians phenotypically probably most "Indo-Europeans" in whole Europe.

There is no indo-european looking wtf :D Indo-europeans looks different from India to Norway. Finnic peoples and north western russians are nordid + a little siberian mix, typical finno-ugric genetic structure which was not true for PIE.

[Bosniensis]

Belorussians.

[Sarmatian]

Poles and Belarusians mixed with Balts. Obviously they can't be "most unmixed Slavs".

No they didn't. Slavs and Balts had split only some 3000 years ago, they didn't need any mixing to be alike.

[Bosniensis]

No they didn't. Slavs and Balts had split only some 3000 years ago, they didn't need any mixing to be alike.

Balto-Slavic people used to be a single community.

All Slavs have enormous Baltic admixture.

[Kaspias]

Bosnians

[Laag]

No they didn't. Slavs and Balts had split only some 3000 years ago, they didn't need any mixing to be alike.

Slavs have a lot of Alpines types, some Slavic people predominantly are Alpines that is very rare among Balts.

[Laag]

Balto-Slavic people used to be a single community.

All Slavs have enormous Baltic admixture.

Balto-Slavs (Poles, Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians) have a lot of Baltic admixture. What about Czechs and South Slavs?

[Bosniensis]

Balto-Slavs (Poles, Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians) have a lot of Baltic admixture. What about Czechs and South Slavs?

South Slavs are 50% Mediterranean 50% Balto-Slavic

We are not real Slavs to be honest but rather mixed.

[TheMaestro]

Southern + C Belarusians and SE + CE Polish.

[Sarmatian]

Slavs have a lot of Alpines types, some Slavic people predominantly are Alpines that is very rare among Balts.

There could be two reasons for that:

1) Alpine types are product of mixing with other groups

2) It's result of local climatic adaptation, Slavic people living close to Balts have rare occurrence of Alpines too.

[Laag]

If Balts are not considered as foreign admixture for Slavs I'll go with Belarusians.

[Kaspias]

South Slavs are 50% Mediterranean 50% Balto-Slavic

We are not real Slavs to be honest but rather mixed.

You're not Slavs but converted Romans!

[Bosniensis]

You're not Slavs but converted Romans!

I am 25% Slavic 25% Roman 25% Celtic 25% Greek and now I want to marry Turkish bride so my son can be:

20% Slavic 20% Roman 20% Celtic 20% Greek 20% Turkic

What do you think?

[Kaspias]

I am 25% Slavic 25% Roman 25% Celtic 25% Greek and now I want to marry Turkish bride so my son can be:

20% Slavic 20% Roman 20% Celtic 20% Greek 20% Turkic

What do you think?

Turkish from which region?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Balto-Slavs (Poles, Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians) have a lot of Baltic admixture. What about Czechs and South Slavs?

It varies. South Slavs have pretty big difference among each other. Czechs are probably more Slavic in Moravia and Silesia compared to Bohemia.

Leeloo/Stearsolina is around 65% early Slav 35% native Dalmatian on G25. This is good model for most of Croats.

https://i.imgur.com/ALmDlJz.png

I'm little bit different due to big Germanic and Keltic admixture.

[Smaug]

You would have to discount a lot of countries because of their German influence so probably Moscovy since they are the furthermost away from Norse and German genetics.

But closer to Uralic influence.

[Jana]

Polesians = north ukrainian southern belarusian southwest russian east-central polish

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Polesia_map_-_topography.jpg/250px-Polesia_map_-_topography.jpg

[Jana]

Leeloo/Stearsolina is around 65% early Slav 35% native Dalmatian on G25. This is good model for most of Croats.

https://i.imgur.com/ALmDlJz.png

Awesome :thumb001::thumb001::thumb001:

slavic pride

[Dick]

You're not Slavs but converted Romans!

In that case so are brits and French they are germanicized.

[Kaspias]

In that case so are brits and French they are germanicized.

Salute to Roman Empire!

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Polesians = north ukrainian southern belarusian southwest russian east-central polish

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Polesia_map_-_topography.jpg/250px-Polesia_map_-_topography.jpg

This.

[Floralys]

Western Belarus, Eastern Poland

[Cumansky]

Cumans

[Cumansky]

Eastern Latvians purest.

[Ülev]

Slav-onians

[Cumansky]

Serious ting.

[Cumansky]

You know what is pure comedy, Croats 65% Native Slavic.

[Cumansky]

You know what else pure comedy Croats 35% Native Dalmatian, lol.

If genetics was only that simple, is not tho.

[Jana]

You know what else pure comedy Croats 35% Native Dalmatian, lol.

If genetics was only that simple, is not tho.

It is my result, and I am close to Croatian average on G25.

[Cumansky]

It is my result, and I am close to Croatian average on G25.

What do you mean?

[Jana]

Eastern Latvians purest.

This is comedy.

[Jana]

What do you mean?

That Hrvoje posted my result when modeling with proto Slavic and native Dalmatian samples

[Ford]

Belarusians. All other Slavs are mudbloods.

[Cumansky]

You are reported.

Croatian:

96.8% Balkan
3.2% Scottish, Irish, and Welsh

Latvian:

100% Baltic

MyHeritage, you think this "Balkan" encompass more Balto Slavic admixture than this "Baltic"?

Don't make me laugh.

[Cumansky]

Belarusians. All other Slavs are mudbloods.

What do you know about Belarusians lol, many are Ukrainians.

[Jana]

Croatian:


I score 0% Balkan on Myheritage and mostly Eastern European. Who are you to deny our Slavic origin ? I hope moderators will punish you for abuse.

[Ford]

What do you know about Belarusians lol, many are Ukrainians.

https://i.imgur.com/gGypSU7.png

[Satem]

Eastern Latvians purest.

You mean Russians from Latgale, right?

[Cumansky]

I score 0% Balkan on Myheritage and mostly Eastern European. Who are you to deny our Slavic origin ? I hope moderators will punish you for abuse.

I not deny you just exaggerate your Balto Slavic admixture for some weirdo agenda you have.

And your people ego when you are under attack is hilarious, you cannot maintain any composure or calm.

Anyways, Natalija my cousin 96.8% Balkan.

[Cumansky]

You mean Russians from Latgale, right?

Yes, see Poles are smart.

[Jana]

I not deny you just exaggerate your Balto Slavic admixture for some weirdo agenda you have.

And your people ego when you are under attack is hilarious, you cannot maintain any composure or calm.

No. Hrvoje posted my results, and you started mocking it. What is motivation for that ?
This is your countinous attack on my nation, you called us Serbs, nazi subhumans, traitors, killers of Poles.

Your sick hatred is disturbing. Especially from a Pole, nation Croats never did any wrong.

Please stop with that , and stop lying. I did not ''exeggerate'' my balto-slavic result, that is what nMonte runner showed when I ran my cordinates with Avar Szolad and Balkan Bronze Age samples.

Please, leave me alone.

[TheOldNorth]

Slavs by nature are mixed like the Celts were, they weren't a singular people.

well the original celts had a similar genotype to the modern irish and welsh

[Pribislav]

I score 0% Balkan on Myheritage and mostly Eastern European. Who are you to deny our Slavic origin ? I hope moderators will punish you for abuse.

Cumansky as Polak promote Vlach supremacy. :lol:

He claim Vlach/paleo-Balkanic origin of I2a-Din.

[Cumansky]

No. Hrvoje posted my results, and you started mocking it. What is motivation for that ?
This is your countinous attack on my nation, you called us Serbs, nazi subhumans, traitors, killers of Poles.

Your sick hatred is disturbing. Especially from a Pole, nation Croats never did any wrong.

Please stop with that , and stop lying. I did not ''exeggerate'' my balto-slavic result, that is what nMonte runner showed when I ran my cordinates with Avar Szolad and Balkan Bronze Age samples.

Please, leave me alone.

Ok lol, you are the first one that quoted me and now you are victim cause you get exposed.

[Cumansky]

Cumansky as Polak promote Vlach supremacy. :lol:

He claim Vlach/paleo-Balkanic origin of I2a-Din.

Why not? Read about my noble house.

PribiVlach aka We Was Slavz until Mustafa showed up.

[Jana]

Ok lol, you are the first one that quoted me and now you are victim cause you get exposed.

You have no right to do this:


You know what else pure comedy Croats 35% Native Dalmatian, lol.

If genetics was only that simple, is not tho.

Because it is trolling. I didn't make up my results, they are like that.
You have no right to call my results fake and humiliate me like that.

I don't claim to be what I am not. Most of my ancestry is slavic and another significant part is native dalmatian. I am proud of both.

Loki will be given letter with your anti-Croatian quotes and lies if you continue. I won't tolerate it.

[Cumansky]

You have no right to do this:



Because it is trolling. I didn't make up my results, they are like that.
You have no right to call my results fake and humiliate me like that.

I don't claim to be what I am not. Most of my ancestry is slavic and another significant part is native dalmatian. I am proud of both.

Loki will be given letter with your anti-Croatian quotes and lies if you continue. I won't tolerate it.

65% Slavic, 35% Dalmatian if it were that simple cool, is not tho.

[Adam Janossy]

You know what else pure comedy Croats 35% Native Dalmatian, lol.

If genetics was only that simple, is not tho.

I don't believe that you are a Vlach in Poland, it sounds very fake. Unlike your results my GF results are real.

[Pribislav]

Why not? Read about my noble house.

PribiVlach aka We Was Slavz until Mustafa showed up.

PribiVlach for sure. My ancestors were in vlach social status, which means almost the highest amount of privilegies which Ottomans gave to Christians. They had a lot of freedom under the Ottomans unlike members of farmer social status who were often humiliated by Ottomans.
Regarless of solid status under the Ottomans for Christians my ancestors left Ottoman Bosnia in 17th century and settled to the Venetian Dalmatia.

[Jana]

65% Slavic, 35% Dalmatian if it were that simple cool, is not tho.

Don't try to lecture me about my people. Southern Croats are mix of slavs and natives, and we already knew that before genetics.

[Cumansky]

I don't believe that you are a Vlach in Poland, it sounds very fake. Unlike your results my GF results are real.

Ok.

[Cumansky]

Don't try to lecture me about my people. Southern Croats are mix of slavs and natives, and we already knew that before genetics.

I don't know I have to ask you because your German man said your result is real, I didn't say it was fake..

Ashkenazi Jewish is native Slavic or native Dalmatian? Because you said you are only mixture of Slavic and Dalmatian, right? Just need clarification on that. That's all.

[Jana]

I don't know I have to ask you because your German man said your result is real, I didn't say it was fake..

Ashkenazi Jewish is native Slavic or native Dalmatian? Because you said you are only mixture of Slavic and Dalmatian, right? Just need clarification on that. That's all.

First, he is Hungarian, not German. And he clusters with Moldovans. Second, what is relation of Ashkenazi Jewish people with Croats or me ?
Do you suffer from Jewish phobia because Western Ukraine used to be full with Jews ?

You don't need clarification, you know well what I said. You have been trying to deny or minimalize Slavic ancestry of Croats because of weird hatred for us, or your Vlach fantasies.
And you called many TA members Jews when you didn't like their posts.

Unlike you, I don't have identity issues. You are Slav pretending to be Vlach which tells enough about your mental health.

[Cumansky]

PribiVlach for sure. My ancestors were in vlach social status, which means almost the highest amount of privilegies which Ottomans gave to Christians. They had a lot of freedom under the Ottomans unlike members of farmer social status who were often humiliated by Ottomans.
Regarless of solid status under the Ottomans for Christians my ancestors left Ottoman Bosnia in 17th century and settled to the Venetian Dalmatia.

Bro you are an idiot, you know your history better than anyone.

But somehow you brainwash by some nationalist agendas, I don't want to have this back and forth you had with user @Aspirin many times, because is waste of my time.

If you don't know who you are learn, I know who I am and another last reason for that is we have better records than you because we never got conquered by backwards Ottoman society that uprooted parts of your history, not ours. Pay them tax and they acknowledge you are higher class, that you always were, Vlach.

[Cumansky]

First, he is Hungarian, not German. And he clusters with Moldovans. Second, what is relation of Ashkenazi Jewish people with Croats or me ?
Do you suffer from Jewish phobia because Western Ukraine used to be full with Jews ?

You don't need clarification, you know well what I said. You have been trying to deny or minimalize Slavic ancestry of Croats because of weird hatred for us, or your Vlach fantasies.
And you called many TA members Jews when you didn't like their posts.

Unlike you, I don't have identity issues. You are Slav pretending to be Vlach which tells enough about your mental health.

I'm just asking why you have Ashkenazi Jewish in your MyHeritage report, and claiming this as Slavic or Dalmatian?

[Papastratosels26]

Belarusians

[Adam Janossy]

I'm just asking why you have Ashkenazi Jewish in your MyHeritage report, and claiming this as Slavic or Dalmatian?

Why do you pretend to be Polish ? You're Vlach migrant from Romania.

Feiichy did not mention MyHeritage, she mentioned Global 25. Everybody know MyHeritage is laughable silly website. I get there many nonsensical things...
She is 0% Jewish on 23andme, FTDNA or on the gedmatch, so don't try to make it seem she is partly Jewish. It is nonsense.

[Adam Janossy]

This Vlach untermensch is so laughable when he is defeated.

[Nurzat]

Most unmixed Slavs?

Ukrainians of Polissia region across the north, southern Belarussians along the Prypyat′ and Poles in Podlaskie and Polesie regions in the east.

they are all one next to the other so they form a continuum there. it's also the native region of the Slavs and its next vicinity, the least infused by Germanic, Baltic, Balkanic, Caucasian or Fenno-Ugrian DNA.

[Adam Janossy]

First, he is Hungarian, not German. And he clusters with Moldovans. Second, what is relation of Ashkenazi Jewish people with Croats or me ?
Do you suffer from Jewish phobia because Western Ukraine used to be full with Jews ?

You don't need clarification, you know well what I said. You have been trying to deny or minimalize Slavic ancestry of Croats because of weird hatred for us, or your Vlach fantasies.
And you called many TA members Jews when you didn't like their posts.

Unlike you, I don't have identity issues. You are Slav pretending to be Vlach which tells enough about your mental health.

No darling, I am not genetically similar to Moldovans. I just have some North Caucasus admixture, that artifically pulls me close to Moldavia.

[Cumansky]

Ukrainians of Polissia region across the north, southern Belarussians along the Prypyat′ and Poles in Podlaskie and Polesie regions in the east.

they are all one next to the other so they form a continuum there. it's also the native region of the Slavs and its next vicinity, the least infused by Germanic, Baltic, Balkanic, Caucasian or Fenno-Ugrian DNA.

Slavs and Balts always mixed tho, you can't separate the two.

[Pribislav]

Bro you are an idiot, you know your history better than anyone.

But somehow you brainwash by some nationalist agendas, I don't want to have this back and forth you had with user @Aspirin many times, because is waste of my time.

If you don't know who you are learn, I know who I am and another last reason for that is we have better records than you because we never got conquered by backwards Ottoman society that uprooted parts of your history, not ours. Pay them tax and they acknowledge you are higher class, that you always were, Vlach.

My ancestors were not Latin speakers. I know my ancestors from 16th and 17th century and they had Slavic names.
Be vlach in Ottoman empire was social and even political category, not ethnic and linguistic. Latin speaking Balkanites never recognized themselves as vlachs. They call themselves Romani, Rumani, Armani, Rramani, Rumeri etc.

This document is from year 1596, and it's about conspriracy in Bosnia against Ottoman. My ancestors participated in conspiracy.. It's written on Chyllic on Serbian language and I can read and understand without any problem. All names in document are Serbian/Slavic.

https://i.imgur.com/Cy9cJR5.jpg

[Adam Janossy]

Ukrainians of Polissia region across the north, southern Belarussians along the Prypyat′ and Poles in Podlaskie and Polesie regions in the east.

they are all one next to the other so they form a continuum there. it's also the native region of the Slavs and its next vicinity, the least infused by Germanic, Baltic, Balkanic, Caucasian or Fenno-Ugrian DNA.

Jana said the same thing.

[Cumansky]

Why do you pretend to be Polish ? You're Vlach migrant from Romania.

I am Vlach migrant from Romania (Kingdom of Hungary, previously Bulgarian Empire) that established Polish noble family in Pokuttya.

[Adam Janossy]

I am Vlach migrant from Romania (Kingdom of Hungary, previously Bulgarian Empire) that established Polish noble family in Pokuttya.

You are simple proletarian, who only finished vocational secondary school.

[Cumansky]

Feiichy did not mention MyHeritage, she mentioned Global 25. Everybody know MyHeritage is laughable silly website. I get there many nonsensical things...
She is 0% Jewish on 23andme, FTDNA or on the gedmatch, so don't try to make it seem she is partly Jewish. It is nonsense.

I don't care what she mentioned, is a dirty game, accept you are both Kuzarim.

[Adam Janossy]

I don't care what she mentioned, is a dirty game, accept you are Kuzarim.

Proli, you are defeated. It is the result of your low class origin, that prevent you from being good debatant.

[Cumansky]

Proli, you are defeated. It is the result of your low class origin, that prevent you from being good debatant.

Defeated in what?

[Adam Janossy]

Defeated in what?

Your lies were easy to debunk.

[Dorian]

You are simple proletarian, who only finished vocational secondary school.

https://i.postimg.cc/7Z5pPHhy/A.jpg (https://postimg.cc/qNdmjd2m)

[Cumansky]

Your lies were easy to debunk.

What lie is that? Don't you have a kid nigga, this what you do make childish debates?

[Adam Janossy]

What lie is that? Don't you have a kid nigga, this what you do make childish debates?

Cumansky TA career
https://www.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/hippo1.gif

https://i.gifer.com/Lvp0.gif

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[Cumansky]

Cumansky TA career
https://www.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/hippo1.gif

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Your behavior is pure Kuzarim, same your girl, reminds me those administrators that run these websites.

[Adam Janossy]

Your behavior is pure Kuzarim, same your girl, reminds me those administrators that run these websites.

You are simple working class proli, pictures work better for you than the sentences. More simple the better :))))

[Adam Janossy]

Taxonomy
NE Ibrahimovic

so, your look is Balkanite Gypo. explains your frustrations towards light pigmented people...

[Cumansky]

Why is this German Khazar still quote me?

Take your loss, because is a packaged family hit.

[Adam Janossy]

Why is this German Khazar still quote me?

Take your loss, because is a packaged family hit.

Are you talking to yourself ? :)))))
Ukraine = Khazaria

I think you are armenoid looking guy (like Ibrahomovics) , who hate his middle eastern look. it is so called self-projection :)))

[Cumansky]

Are you talking to yourself ? :)))))
Ukraine = Khazaria

I think you are armenoid looking guy (like Ibrahomovics) , who hate his middle eastern look. it is so called self-projection :)))

I'm Jew, by blood.

You think I'm mad by saying this?

[Cumansky]

Are you talking to yourself ? :)))))
Ukraine = Khazaria

I think you are armenoid looking guy (like Ibrahomovics) , who hate his middle eastern look. it is so called self-projection :)))

North African and Ashkenazi Jew.

[Cumansky]

Are you talking to yourself ? :)))))
Ukraine = Khazaria

I think you are armenoid looking guy (like Ibrahomovics) , who hate his middle eastern look. it is so called self-projection :)))

Your girl still score more Ashkenazi than me, and you plot and cluster in Pale of Settlement region, you might be first cousin with Adam Silver.

[Izmir]

No darling, I am not genetically similar to Moldovans. I just have some North Caucasus admixture, that artifically pulls me close to Moldavia.

Nah bro,you don't have any north caucasian admixture, thats just a proxy gedmatch uses, you dont score any north caucasian on any commercial tests.You said you got a geo tree for all of your ancestors, and if all had magyar names then one of them was a politically magyarised gypsy.

[Izmir]

No. Hrvoje posted my results, and you started mocking it. What is motivation for that ?
This is your countinous attack on my nation, you called us Serbs, nazi subhumans, traitors, killers of Poles.

Your sick hatred is disturbing. Especially from a Pole, nation Croats never did any wrong.

Please stop with that , and stop lying. I did not ''exeggerate'' my balto-slavic result, that is what nMonte runner showed when I ran my cordinates with Avar Szolad and Balkan Bronze Age samples.

Please, leave me alone.

The pole is up to something, non-slavic admixture in croats is not native, one can argue its mostly from early middle ages invaders/settlers to modern era immigrants.I like how you people talk only about slavic and paleo-balkanic
admixture in Balkans, the half-half is just wishful thinking.Only IBD sharing matters and modern balkanites share close to no with ancient samples, the test shows Feiichy as 65% slav rest paleo-balkanite cause those 2
were the proxies use, in turn these proxies recursively decay back to basic components, it just means her ancient components are identical to someone who would be 65/35% of those 2 populations and nothing else.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I'm just asking why you have Ashkenazi Jewish in your MyHeritage report, and claiming this as Slavic or Dalmatian?

She is not part Jewish. MyHeritage is notoriously innacurate, they assigned bits of Jew and Nigerian to pretty much everyone because they push multi-culti propaganda.
I get English there and I'm 0% fucking English.

You're a troll bro.

She is lot more versed in genetics than you. Stears is a troll tho

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Nah bro,you don't have any north caucasian admixture, thats just a proxy gedmatch uses, you dont score any north caucasian on any commercial tests.You said you got a geo tree for all of your ancestors, and if all had magyar names then one of them was a politically magyarised gypsy.


The pole is up to something, non-slavic admixture in croats is not native, one can argue its mostly from early middle ages invaders/settlers to modern era immigrants.I like how you people talk only about slavic and paleo-balkanic
admixture in Balkans, the half-half is just wishful thinking.Only IBD sharing matters and modern balkanites share close to no with ancient samples, the test shows Feiichy as 65% slav rest paleo-balkanite cause those 2
were the proxies use, in turn these proxies recursively decay back to basic components, it just means her ancient components are identical to someone who would be 65/35% of those 2 populations and nothing else.

Hello IcelSlayer, long time no see

[Ford]

She is not part Jewish. MyHeritage is notoriously innacurate, they assigned bits of Jew and Nigerian to pretty much everyone because they push multi-culti propaganda.
I get English there and I'm 0% fucking English.

You're a troll bro.

She is lot more versed in genetics than you. Stears is a troll tho

I just think their calculators are very noisy, not necessarily designed to show people as mixed. According to them I'm around 15% Scandinavian/Finnish. I've heard that they're going to launch a new update later this year, so I hope that will correct some inaccuracies.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I just think their calculators are very noisy, not necessarily designed to show people as mixed. According to them I'm around 15% Scandinavian/Finnish. I've heard that they're going to launch a new update later this year, so I hope that will correct some inaccuracies.

I'm pretty convinced they have agenda bro. I get Eskimo/Inuit there also, and funnily enough on gedmatch I'm like 0% mongoloid (only get minor amerindian, and that's double less than Eskimo they assigned me)
They want to make us all exotic mixed, but hopefully they will improve.

[Ford]

I'm pretty convinced they have agenda bro. I get Eskimo/Inuit there also, and funnily enough on gedmatch I'm like 0% mongoloid (only get minor amerindian, and that's double less than Eskimo they assigned me)
They want to make us all exotic mixed, but hopefully they will improve.

Maybe you're right but I think it may be more related to some error in their code. Most of my DNA relatives on there are 100% Euro, just that their ethnic breakdowns within Europe are retarded. Also, I always score more Siberian than average on gedmatch yet I've never been assigned any non-Euro DNA on any of the major testing sites (except for 2% Sephardic on FTDNA).

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Maybe you're right but I think it may be more related to some error in their code. Most of my DNA relatives on there are 100% Euro, just that their ethnic breakdowns within Europe are retarded. Also, I always score more Siberian than average on gedmatch yet I've never been assigned any non-Euro DNA on any of the major testing sites (except for 2% Sephardic on FTDNA).

You know what's interesting ? How they count euro jewish admixture as European :rolleyes:
not sure about sephardic

[Dick]

Probably the Eastern Slavs



https://i.imgur.com/CyuWbco.png

[PaleoEuropean]

You know what's interesting ? How they count euro jewish admixture as European :rolleyes:
not sure about sephardic

Jews are about as native as every other non-native haplogroups. Anything but haplogroup I for males is faux European if you want to be technical. That's not intended to be insulting but if you wan't to split hairs, Haplgroup R,G,E,J are all middle eastern/north African. Jews average about 15% R1b, when you get into Spaniards/Portuguese of converso descent its even higher.. I am not saying that you are anyone else isn't European, but if you aren't from the I club you are all from the same place mostly and that is Iran and the Middle East. It's like fighting over who is less middle eastern. We all are a bunch of Euro-Middle eastern-North African mutts admixture wise.

[Laag]

Polesians = north ukrainian southern belarusian southwest russian east-central polish

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Polesia_map_-_topography.jpg/250px-Polesia_map_-_topography.jpg

Ukrainians from Polesia. True Slavs?

http://metalurg-malyn.at.ua/_ph/2/2/348890583.jpg
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http://futsalvolyn.at.ua/_nw/1/15170431.jpg
http://futsalvolyn.at.ua/_nw/1/19471436.jpg

[Jana]

non-slavic admixture in croats is not native

:picard2::picard2::picard2:

Stupid troll!

[Jana]

Ukrainians from Polesia. True Slavs?

Truest Slavs :)

[Izmir]

:picard2::picard2::picard2:

Stupid troll!

The average crorat has no IBD share with the samples from Bronze Age to pre-roman period and if they do match its insignificant/noise, its impossible to be just slavic-native-paleobalkan(actually after 2k years its impossible to have any paleobalkan admixture) because historically there were more invaders in Balkans than the number of paleo-balkanites who after a few generations washed away most of paleo-balkan admixture.This is seen from ydna/mtdna too, most of non-slavic crorat ydna/mtdna is from early middle ages to modern times immigrants.

[Jana]

The average crorat has no IBD share with the samples from Bronze Age to pre-roman period and if they do match its insignificant/noise, its impossible to be just slavic-native-paleobalkan(actually after 2k years its impossible to have any paleobalkan admixture) because historically there were more invaders in Balkans than the number of paleo-balkanites who after a few generations washed away most of paleo-balkan admixture.This is seen from ydna/mtdna too, most of non-slavic crorat ydna/mtdna is from early middle ages to modern times immigrants.

Not true. Native population survived in coastal towns, islands and mountains until late middle ages assimilation. And I match bronze age Dalmatians.
no wonder on Lucs calc I get Iberian like mix :)

native Dalmatians were SW European not southeastern. And my native admix is SW european, not east med like.

[Izmir]

Not true. Native population survived in coastal towns, islands and mountains until late middle ages assimilation. And I match bronze age Dalmatians.
no wonder on Lucs calc I get Iberian like mix :)

native Dalmatians were SW European not southeastern. And my native admix is SW european, not east med like.

There is no proof you have paleo-balkanic admixture, western europeans match those samples better than balkanites for example aye's father who is dalmatian doesnt match the ancient dalmatian sample but aye matches it(prob because his mother matches it),any country that is high in bellBeaker admixture will match them better than croats.
And on mytrueancestry iberians are being modeled as paleo-balkanite too so its all bullshit.


Not true. Native population survived in coastal towns, islands and mountains until late middle ages assimilation.

How paleo-balkan those "native" samples were is debatable, probably close to none, in Croatian islanders are more slavic than mainlanders.

[Jana]

There is no proof you have paleo-balkanic admixture, western europeans match those samples better than balkanites for example aye's father who is dalmatian doesnt match the ancient dalmatian sample but aye matches it(prob because his mother matches it),any country that is high in bellBeaker admixture will match them better than croats.
And on mytrueancestry iberians are being modeled as paleo-balkanite too so its all bullshit

Wrong. I match it on gedmatch, western Europeans don't. Mytrueancestry shows genetic similarity not origin. Yes, we who live there 1000 years have no native blood, hahaha!


How paleo-balkan those "native" samples were is debatable, probably close to none, in Croatian islanders are more slavic than mainlanders.

Yes, we are more Slavic because we are recent arrivals from western BiH and island was uninhabited before that. My island toponyms are 100% Slavic.
But situation can be different on big islands with fortified towns and population continuity from antiquity. Slavs settled there too (later), but recorded Romance refugees from mainland filled those islands to hide from invaders.

Some island probably have significant native genetics.

[Izmir]

Wrong. I match it on gedmatch, western Europeans don't. Mytrueancestry shows genetic similarity not origin. Yes, we who live there 1000 years have no native blood, hahaha!



Yes, we are more Slavic because we are recent arrivals from western BiH and island was uninhabited before that. My island toponyms are 100% Slavic.
But situation can be different on big islands with fortified towns and population continuity from antiquity. Slavs settled there too (later), but recorded Romance refugees from mainland filled those islands to hide from invaders.

Some island probably have significant native genetics.

Feiichy you DONT match paleo-balkanite samples as in recent ancestry to justify your 35% "paleo-balkanite" admixture, what you match are leftover common Bronze Age segments, thats why westerners match them better.In reality the average paleo-balkanite mixture in crorats is < 1% to none.End of discussion.The rest of your post is just theory in practice we know this does not exist.

[Aspirin]

Ukrainians from Polesia. True Slavs?

She is right.
https://pp.userapi.com/c854224/v854224239/55776/n7c2kF_R7bc.jpg
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[Dick]

We don’t have paleo Balkan admixture it’s just some left over Byzantine slave genes from avars and scythians

[Ayetooey]

We don’t have paleo Balkan admixture it’s just some left over Byzantine slave genes from avars and scythians

I agree brother, ancient sources say the Slavs settled on empty land. Gedmatch West Asian/East med in Serbs comes from ancient Sarmatian Serboi tribe, who mixed with slavs to form the White Serbs.

[Jana]

We don’t have paleo Balkan admixture it’s just some left over Byzantine slave genes from avars and scythians


I agree brother, ancient sources say the Slavs settled on empty land. Gedmatch West Asian/East med in Serbs comes from ancient Sarmatian Serboi tribe, who mixed with slavs to form the White Serbs.

Those are fantasies. Byzantine sources say native population was greatly reduced by warfare and diesease, but it certanly did not dissapear.
Incoming Slavs mingled with remnants of local population and learned great deal of things from them - for example building in stone in Dalmatia and how to be fearless pirates.
Early Croatian state had quite a large navy - and they didn't learn secrets of ship building in Poland and Ukraine.

Please, let's not go into Bosniensis, IncelSlyayer and Cumansky low level trolling. It is pitiful.

[Dick]

I agree brother, ancient sources say the Slavs settled on empty land. Gedmatch West Asian/East med in Serbs comes from ancient Sarmatian Serboi tribe, who mixed with slavs to form the White Serbs.

Yeah except for Bosniensis he descends from Hercules and Julius Caesar

[Ayetooey]

Wrong. I match it on gedmatch, western Europeans don't. Mytrueancestry shows genetic similarity not origin. Yes, we who live there 1000 years have no native blood, hahaha!



Yes, we are more Slavic because we are recent arrivals from western BiH and island was uninhabited before that. My island toponyms are 100% Slavic.
But situation can be different on big islands with fortified towns and population continuity from antiquity. Slavs settled there too (later), but recorded Romance refugees from mainland filled those islands to hide from invaders.

Some island probably have significant native genetics.

I match all 3 Dalmatian samples; my dad matches none of them. That means I match them through my British mother; even an Indian poster here matches those samples. I wouldn't take those samples so literally.

[Jana]

She is right.
https://pp.userapi.com/c854224/v854224239/55776/n7c2kF_R7bc.jpg
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I was friends with Belarusian user Volat. He was great expert in genetics, linguistics and history of Slavic people.
Belarus has 80% Baltic hydronyms, but this is not true for southwestern Belarus where toponyms and hydronyms are Slavic. This includes Gomel district too where lot of Chernobyl radiation went.

According to him 3/4 of Belarusians are Balto-Slavic, and remaining 1/4 in southern region along Pripyat river basin is pure Slavic.
He is from north of Belarus close to Latvian border, and he is genetically close to Lithuanians, Pskov Russians other than his own people who are Slavic + Baltic.

His YDNA is Z92 branch of R1a-Z280 which is more typicaly Baltic than Slavic. Interesting is that in southern Belarus I2-din is 25%, rest is mostly R1a.
Concentration of I2a-din falls dramatically when you enter former Baltic territory.

This can mean, proto-Balto-Slavs were R1a Z280, and assimilation of I2a group (maybe East Germanic speakers?) led to creation of early Slavic community.
There is also R1a M458, peaking in Poles, Sorbs and Czechs-Slovaks and certanly quite Slavic, but there is big lack of ancient samples with this marker to make solid conclusions.

[Jana]

I match all 3 Dalmatian samples; my dad matches none of them. That means I match them through my British mother; even an Indian poster here matches those samples. I wouldn't take those samples so literally.

Forget Dalmatian samples, southern European genetics in Serbs is native and you must be mental to question that.
Besides, Serbs have additional Greek like Thracian genetics too.

Sarmatians were genetically closest to Russians.

[Leto]

I was friends with Belarusian user Volat. He was great expert in genetics, linguistics and history of Slavic people.
Belarus has 80% Baltic hydronyms, but this is not true for southwestern Belarus where toponyms and hydronyms are Slavic. This includes Gomel district too where lot of Chernobyl radiation went.

According to him 3/4 of Belarusians are Balto-Slavic, and remaining 1/4 in southern region along Pripyat river basin is pure Slavic.
He is from north of Belarus close to Latvian border, and he is genetically close to Lithuanians, Pskov Russians other than his own people who are Slavic + Baltic.

He's a rabid Russophobe and wasn't objective at all, don't cite him as a reliable source. He claims that Belorussian people are basically Slavic-speaking Lithuanians and have little to do with Russians, which is utter nonsense. That idiot is banned on Anthrogenica now, so let's just send him into oblivion.

[Jana]

He's a rabid Russophobe and wasn't objective at all, don't cite him as a reliable source. He claims that Belorussian people are basically Slavic-speaking Lithuanians and have little to do with Russians, which is utter nonsense. That idiot is banned on Anthrogenica now, so let's just send him into oblivion.

False. He considers western Russians very similar to Belarusians. And yes, he is very objective. I don't care for his political opinions.

[Jana]

Cumansky exposed: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?291128-Cumansky-Mykhailo-exposed&p=6065430#post6065430

Please read this topic, and everything will be clear about him.

[War Chef]

Those are fantasies. Byzantine sources say native population was greatly reduced by warfare and diesease, but it certanly did not dissapear.

Yep, Justinian's plague depopulated the Balkans, leaving a vacuum for the Slavs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague_of_Justinian

[Leto]

False. He considers western Russians very similar to Belarusians. And yes, he is very objective. I don't care for his political opinions.
Lol, the guy literally claimed one needs to be 55-60% East European on Dodecad V3 in order to be "genetically Belarusian", while as a matter of fact even Latvians get only about 40% on that calculator. My father is 35% for example. No one is 55%, that calculator is weird and cannot be taken seriously in the first place.

[Jana]

Lol, the guy literally claimed one needs to be 55-60% East European on Dodecad V3 in order to be "genetically Belarusian", while as a matter of fact even Latvians get only about 40% on that calculator. My father is 35% for example. No one is 55%, that calculator is weird and cannot be taken seriously in the first place.

He probably scores such inflated amount because his sample was taken as reference for that calculator, or is very close to that. I agree with you on that.

[Seya]

No darling, I am not genetically similar to Moldovans. I just have some North Caucasus admixture, that artifically pulls me close to Moldavia.

that north caucasus admixture u also got it from your romanian side. i also score around 10-11% on gedmatch calculators.

[War Chef]

that north caucasus admixture u also got it from your romanian side. i also score around 10-11% on gedmatch calculators.

I always thought you look extremely Circassian.

[HungryLion]

East Poland/West Belarus.

This

[Seya]

I always thought you look extremely Circassian.

everyone says that really ))

[War Chef]

everyone says that really ))

What part of Romania are you from? You have high Asian also from what I remember. Similar to Circassians (adygei)

https://i.imgur.com/13oF9nZ.jpg

[ixulescu]

Yep, Justinian's plague depopulated the Balkans, leaving a vacuum for the Slavs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague_of_Justinian

Northern half of the Balkans was sparsely populated until late 18th century.
There was always space for more people.

[War Chef]

Northern half of the Balkans was sparsely populated until late 18th century.
There was always space for more people.

So who repopulated Romania and where did they come from.
I know I heard Vlachs came from Macedonia but I actually think most of Romania was repopulated by Carpathian Highlanders who came down.

[ixulescu]

So who repopulated Romania and where did they come from.
I know I heard Vlachs came from Macedonia but I actually think most of Romania was repopulated by Carpathian Highlanders who came down.

Romanian lands had relatively constant but sparse population between 1000 and 1750. Two factors major factors changed that dynamic afterwards: the peace with the Ottomans and the decline of feudalism.

All countries in the area experienced exponential population growth after 1750 (until 1980s), Romania included.


Now, if we want to be more precise, Mongol invasion set up a series of events that triggered a lot of population migration and eventually the formation of the Romanian principalities 100 years later. So there's that as well. Also, Vlachs didn't come from Macedonia. Latinophone population was everywhere in the Northern half of the Balkans. We know this from the funerary inscriptions found all over the place.

[Seya]

What part of Romania are you from? You have high Asian also from what I remember. Similar to Circassians (adygei)

https://i.imgur.com/13oF9nZ.jpg

i'm from east romania.

[Jana]

that north caucasus admixture u also got it from your romanian side. i also score around 10-11% on gedmatch calculators.

How much Romanian admixture do you think he has ?

[Seya]

How much Romanian admixture do you think he has ?

taking into consideration his results and his family background i'd say half. in transylvania there are a lot of romanians who had to convert and take hungarian names in the past

[Jana]

taking into consideration his results and his family background i'd say half. in transylvania there are a lot of romanians who had to convert and take hungarian names in the past

:P

[Karaton]

Greeks.

[Satem]

Greeks.

wut?

[Ülev]

Greeks.


wut?

Polak, Hellen dwa bratanki? (http://balkanistyka.org/polak-hellen-dwa-bratanki/)
:rolleyes: