PDA

View Full Version : Are you fit to wear the crown? Royal Y-DNA



Epirus DNA
05-27-2019, 10:48 AM
Are you fit to wear the crown?
Royal Y-DNA

Grand Princes of Kiev
N1c1 - Vladimir II Monomakh (1053-1125)
N1c1 - Mstislav I of Kiev (1076-1132)
N1c1 - Yaropolk II of Kiev (1082-1139)
N1c1 - Viacheslav I of Kiev (1083-1154)
N1c1 - Yuri Dolgorukiy (1090-1157)
N1c1 - Iziaslav II of Kiev (1097-1154)
N1c1 - Rostislav I of Kiev (1110-1167)
N1c1 - Yaroslav II of Kiev (1132-1180)
N1c1 - Roman the Great (1152-1205)
N1c1 - Rurik Rostislavich (-1215)
N1c1 - Ingvar of Kiev (1152-1220)
N1c1 - Mstislav III of Kiev (died 1223)
N1c1 - Rostislav II of Kiev (1173-1214)
N1c1 - Vladimir IV Rurikovich (1187-1239)
N1c1 - Daniel of Galicia (1201-1264)
N1c1 - Alexander Nevsky (1220-1263)
N1c1 - Lev I of Galicia (1228-1301)
N1c1 - Yaroslav of Tver (1230-1271)
N1c1 - Yuri I of Galicia (1252-1308)
N1c1 - Andrew of Galicia (?-1323)
N1c1 - Lev II of Galicia (?-1323)

Grand Dukes of Lithuania
N1c1 - House of Gediminas (1285-1440)

Romanovs
R1b - Paul I (1754-1801)
R1b - Alexander I (1777-1825)
R1b - Constantine I (1779-1831)
R1b - Nicholas I (1796-1855)
R1b - Alexander II (1818-1881)
R1b - Alexander III (1845-1894)
R1b - Nicholas II (1868-1918)

Greek Royalty
R1b - George I (1845-1913)
R1b - Constantine I (1868-1923)
R1b - Alexander (1893-1920)
R1b - George II (1890-1947)

Bulgarian Royalty
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - Ferdinand I (1861-1948)
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - Boris III (1894-1943)
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - Simeon II (b. 1937)

House of Grimaldi
I1a1 (P109) - Louis II of Monaco (1870-1949)

Portuguese Royalty
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - Pedro V (1837-1861)
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - Luis I (1838-1889)
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - Carlos I (1863-1908)
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - Manuel II (1889-1932)

Dukes of Parma
R1b-Z381 - House of Bourbon-Parma

French Royalty
R1b-Z381 - Francis I (1494-1547)
R1b-Z381 - Henry IV (1553-1610)
R1b-Z381 - Louis XIII (1601-1643)
R1b-Z381 - Louis, Dauphin of France (1661-1711)
R1b-Z381 - Louis XV (1710-1774)
R1b-Z381 - Louis XVI (1754-1793)
R1b-Z381 - Louis XVII (1785-1795)
R1b-Z381 - Louis XVIII of France (1755-1824)
R1b-Z381 - Charles X of France (1757-1836)

Belgian Royalty
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - Leopold I (1790-1865)
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - Leopold II (1835-1909)
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - Albert I (1875-1934)
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - Leopold III (1901-1983)
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - Baldwin I (1930-1993)
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - Albert II (1934-)

Austrian Royalty
R1b - Leopold I, Margrave of Austria (died 994)
R1b - Henry I, Margrave of Austria (died 1018)
R1b - Adalbert, Margrave of Austria (985-1055)
R1b - Ernest, Margrave of Austria (1027-1075)
R1b - Leopold II, Margrave of Austria (1050-1095)
R1b - Leopold III, Margrave of Austria (1073-1136)
R1b - Leopold IV, Margrave of Austria, aka Leopold I, Duke of Bavaria (1108-1141)
R1b - Henry II, Duke of Austria, aka Henry XI, also Duke of Bavaria (1107-1177)
R1b - Leopold V, Duke of Austria (1157-1194)
R1b - Frederick I, Duke of Austria (1175-1198)
R1b - Leopold VI, Duke of Austria (1176-1230)
R1b - Frederick II, Duke of Austria (1211-1246)

Swedish Royalty
I1 - Valdemar I of Sweden (1239-1302)
I1 - Magnus III of Sweden (1240-1290)
I1 - Birger I of Sweden (1280-1321)
I1 - Valdemar, Duke of Finland (1280s-1318)
I1 - Magnus IV of Sweden (1316-1374)
I1 - Eric XII of Sweden (1339-1359)
I1 - Haakon VI of Sweden & Norway (1340-1380)
R1b - Christian I (1426-1481)
R1b - John (1455-1513)
R1b - Christian II (1481-1559)

Norwegian Royalty
I1 - Haakon VI of Sweden & Norway (1340-1380)
R1b - Haakon VII (1872-1957)
R1b - Olav V (1903-1991)
R1b - Harald V (1937-)

Danish Royalty
I1 - Olaf II of Denmark & Norway (1370-1387)
R1b - Christian I (1426-1481)
R1b - John (1455-1513)
R1b - Christian II (1481-1559)
R1b - Frederick I
R1b - Christian III
R1b - Frederick II
R1b - Christian IV
R1b - Frederick III
R1b - Christian V
R1b - Frederick IV
R1b - Christian VI
R1b - Frederick V
R1b - Christian VII
R1b - Frederick VI
R1b - Christian VIII
R1b - Frederick VII
R1b - Christian IX (1818-1906)
R1b - Frederick VIII (1843-1912)
R1b - Christian X (1870-1947)
R1b - Frederick IX (1899-1972)

Scottish Royalty
J2a1-L26 - Earl of Eglinton (1460-1545)

English Royalty
J1c2c - Edward IV (1442-1483)
J1c2c - Richard III (1452-1485)
G2 - Richard III (1452-1485)
R1b-L21 - James I (1566-1625)
R1b-L21 - Charles I (1600-1649)
R1b-L21 - Charles II (1630-1685)
R1b-L21 - James II (1633-1701)
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - Edward VII (1841-1910)
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - George V (1865-1936)
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - Edward VIII (1894-1972)
R1b-U106 (Z305+) - George VI (1895-1952)
R1b - Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh
R1b - Charles, Prince of Wales
R1b - Prince William, Duke of Cambridge

Ancient Egypt
E1b1a - Ramesses III (1217 BC-1155 BC)

Persian Royalty
J1 - Fath Ali Shah Qajar (1772-1834)

Chinese Royalty
C-M401 - Nurhaci, Qing dynasty (1559-1626)

Saudi Royalty
J1-FGC2 - Muhammad bin Saud (1744-1818)

Famous People
E-M34 - Napoleon I (1769-1821)
I2a2a - Napoleon III
E1b1a - Nelson Mandela
E1b1b1 - Adolf Hitler
E1b1b1 - Lyndon B Johnson
E1b1b1 - David Attenborough
E1b1b1 - Richard Attenborough
E1b1b1a2 - Orville Wright
E1b1b1a2 - Wilbur Wright
E1b1b1a2 - Albert Einstein
G2a1 - Joseph Stalin
G2a2b - Oetzi the Iceman
I1 - Leo Tolstoy
I1 - Warren Buffett
I1 - Alexander Hamilton
I1 - Calvin Coolidge
I1 - Bill Clinton
I1 - Sting
I2a1b-L621 - Martin Luther
I2a1b-L621 - Novak Djokovic (1987-)
I2a1a-L161.1 - James Monroe
I2a2a-L1193 - Bill Gates (1955-)
I2a1b3a - Nikola Tesla
I2a2a - Davy Crockett
I2a2a - Andrew Johnson
I2a2a - Eddie Izzard
I2a2a1 - Duke of Hamilton
I2a2a1 - Henry Luce
I2a2b - Myles Standish
I2a2b - Paul Reynaud
J2 - Mayer Amschel Rothschild
J2 - John Curtin
R1a - Francis Drake
R1a1 - Tom Hanks
R1b - John Adams
R1b - John Quincy Adams
R1b - Abraham Lincoln
R1b - Ulysses S Grant
R1b - William McKinley
R1b - Woodrow Wilson
R1b - Che Guevara
R1b - Charles Darwin

drewcastle
05-27-2019, 11:03 AM
Where's the royal r1a?

Slavs have always been slaves? :cool:

ph2ter
05-27-2019, 11:05 AM
Nikola Tesla is R1a.

Slavic royal dinasties have not yet been tested.

gıulıoımpa
05-27-2019, 11:09 AM
peculiar of scottish royalty being J2 L-26 . I wonder how it got up there, Roman maybe? (it would make more sense to find roman in Cornwall or Wales not Scotland so that's why I find it peculiar)

Epirus DNA
05-27-2019, 11:10 AM
peculiar of scottish royalty being J2 L-26 . I wonder how it got up there, Roman maybe? (it would make more sense to find roman in Cornwall or Wales not Scotland so that's why I find it peculiar)

Scottish Royalty

Was the Earl of Eglinton (1460-1545) a descendent of the Greeks?

Earl of Eglinton (1460-1545)
Y-DNA: J2a1-L26

https://i.imgur.com/eEmWZu8.jpg

PaleoEuropean
05-27-2019, 11:11 AM
My ancestors were a heartbeat away from the throne, we are one of the only families able to wear the Stewart tartan because of our multiple relations to both The Stewarts and Bruce's. My families coat of arms and crest both reflect their crest as well.

Pribislav
05-27-2019, 11:14 AM
Serbian dinasty Karađorđević is I2-CTS10228 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karađorđević_dynasty

Epirus DNA
05-27-2019, 11:17 AM
peculiar of scottish royalty being J2 L-26 . I wonder how it got up there, Roman maybe? (it would make more sense to find roman in Cornwall or Wales not Scotland so that's why I find it peculiar)

I've found several YouTube videos and different "theories" that the Scotts were Greeks... but I don't know :shrug:

https://anton-dion.blogspot.com/2014/04/scotland-land-of-ancient-greeks.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=2cNKT6WBwvo

Ülev
05-27-2019, 11:18 AM
Where's the royal r1a?

Slavs have always been slaves? :cool:

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml#famous_people


King Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands, belongs to haplogroup R1a-Z280 (north-western Slavic S18681 subclade) according to the testing of a distant cousin with FTDNA. He is the son of Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands and German diplomat Claus von Amsberg, whose family hails from Mecklenburg.

gıulıoımpa
05-27-2019, 11:20 AM
Scottish Royalty

Was the Earl of Eglinton (1460-1545) a descendent of the Greeks?

Earl of Eglinton (1460-1545)
Y-DNA: J2a1-L26

https://i.imgur.com/eEmWZu8.jpg

thats prehistoric migration though. I think the house may have intermingled with Romano Britons already at that point, or at least that's what I think plausible.

it would have been cool if somehow we managed to get roman gentis (tribes) tested (to see how roman commoners were probably J2 and I while patrician were R1b). but specimen are long lost unfortunately

Lemgrant
05-27-2019, 11:23 AM
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/RussianNobilityDNA/default.aspx?section=yresults

Epirus DNA
05-27-2019, 11:23 AM
thats prehistoric migration though. I think the house may have intermingled with Romano Britons already at that point, or at least that's what I think plausible.

it would have been cool if somehow we managed to get roman gentis (tribes) tested (to see how roman commoners were probably J2 and I while patrician were R1b). but specimen are long lost unfortunately

Maybe. I find it Interesting. Hopefully more samples will come out to the public in the next few years.
You and I are both J-L26 "cousin"
Who is this Earl of Eglinton (1460-1545) !!?!

Kaspias
05-27-2019, 11:24 AM
Gaodang-King Korguz

Noble burials of Mongols in the Yuan dynasty in Shuzhuanglou Site (northernmost Hebei, China, 700YBP) were excavated. All three men excavated belong to Y haplogroup Q.

The most principal occupant, Gaodang King Korguz, had mtDNA of haplogroup D4m2; two others' mtDNA is A

Korguz was the son of a princess of Kublai Khan and he was the king of the Ongud and a descendant of Gok-Turk. The Ongud claimed descent from the Shatuo. a branch of the Göktürks prominent in the era of the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period. His two wives were all princesses of Yuan Dynasty. It was very important for the Yuan dynasty to maintain marriage-alliance with the Onguds, which had been very important assistant since Genghis Khan. About 16 princesses of Yuan dynasty were married to khans of the Ongud.


++

https://i.ibb.co/dbSxrQJ/Ads-z.png

Derwisz Czelebi Hadżi Murzicz, ‘the cadi of all the Tatars of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania’ in the second half of the sixteenth century (Zakrzewski 1989: 145)

MiloshN
05-27-2019, 11:26 AM
Nope? xD

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
05-27-2019, 11:28 AM
As you can see, most of western European origin Royals belonged to U106 and subclades under it. And I'm willing to bet that was haplogroup of Charlemagne also.

Epirus DNA
05-27-2019, 11:36 AM
Are you fit to wear the crown? #2
Royal mtDNA

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?290726-Are-you-fit-to-wear-the-crown-2-Royal-mtDNA&p=6057514#post6057514

gıulıoımpa
05-27-2019, 11:38 AM
Who is this Earl of Eglinton (1460-1545) !!?!

after some brief research seems like the most famous (and only one i can find of) Scottish noble family with a J-26 haplogroup is the one of the Montgomerys.
they are of Norman descent and settled in Wales first and Scotland after.

Epirus DNA
05-27-2019, 11:46 AM
after some brief research seems like the most famous (and only one i can find of) Scottish noble family with a J-26 haplogroup is the one of the Montgomerys.
they are of Norman descent and settled in Wales first and Scotland after.

Thanks! I actually just found similar information.

I'm wondering how did L-26 get up there?
Hellenic Roman soldiers from the Roman Army? or did L-26 get there before Rome?

Ayetooey
05-27-2019, 12:06 PM
As you can see, most of western European origin Royals belonged to U106 and subclades under it. And I'm willing to bet that was haplogroup of Charlemagne also.

Richard the 3rd, English king from the 1400's belonged to G-P287; modern Windsor line is R1b-u106; early Anglo-Saxon kings from the early middle ages from kingdoms like Wessex, Mercia would of likely been R1b-u106 I think; either that or I1.

PaleoEuropean
05-27-2019, 12:08 PM
I've found several YouTube videos and different "theories" that the Scotts were Greeks... but I don't know :shrug:

https://anton-dion.blogspot.com/2014/04/scotland-land-of-ancient-greeks.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=2cNKT6WBwvo

Scottish Royalty is I1 and R, The Stewarts were R and the Bruces were I1, before that it would have been the Picts, Dal Riatans and Vikings which would be the same. Except I2 would thrown in if the Picts were native Britons.

Norb
05-27-2019, 12:31 PM
any R1a-L664?

Kmakkmak
04-20-2020, 09:29 AM
Piast Dynasty(960-1370)--------------------R1b

Kmakkmak
04-20-2020, 09:32 AM
Přemyslid dynasty(867-1306)-----------------R1b

Kmakkmak
04-20-2020, 09:34 AM
Ottoman Dynasty(1299-1923)--------------R1a-Z93

Based on descendant testing, it appears most likely that the sultans of the Ottoman dynasty belonged to haplogroup R1a-Z93. This has not been officially confirmed yet. All sultans of the Ottoman Empire (1299-1922) descend in patrilineal line from Osman I, making it one of the longest reigning Y-chromosomal lineage in history.

Source:Eupedia.com

Kmakkmak
04-20-2020, 09:35 AM
Arpad Dynasty(855-1301)-----------------R1a-Z93

The DNA of King Béla III of Hungary (c. 1148-1196) was tested by Olasz et al. (2018). His Y-DNA was identified as R1a (possibly the Z93 branch and Z2123>Y934 clade based on STR values, but unconfirmed), while his mtDNA was H1b. Béla was a member of the Árpád dynasty, which ruled over Hungary (and Croatia from 1091) from the arrival of the Magyars in the 9th century until 1301.

Source:https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml

Kmakkmak
04-20-2020, 09:42 AM
Eighteenth Dynasty of Egypt(1549/1550 BC–1292 BC)---------------------R1b-M269


Source: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25663-Pharaoh-Tutankhamun-Akhenaten-and-Amenhotep-III-were-R1b

Kmakkmak
04-20-2020, 09:47 AM
Eighteenth Dynasty of Egypt(1549/1550 BC–1292 BC)---------------------R1b-M269


Source: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25663-Pharaoh-Tutankhamun-Akhenaten-and-Amenhotep-III-were-R1b

Kmakkmak
04-20-2020, 09:50 AM
Shaddadids Dynasty(951-1174 AD)-----------------R1a(Most probably Z93 branch)


The Shaddadids were a Muslim dynasty of Kurdish origin[2][3][4][5] who ruled in various parts of Armenia and Arran from 951 to 1174 AD. They were established in Dvin. Through their long tenure in Armenia, they often intermarried with the Bagratuni royal family of Armenia.[6][7]

They began ruling in the city of Dvin, and eventually ruled other major cities, such as Barda and Ganja. A cadet line of the Shaddadids were given the cities of Ani and Tbilisi[8] as a reward for their service to the Seljuqs, to whom they became vassals.[9][10] From 1047 to 1057, the Shaddadids were engaged in several wars against the Byzantine army. The area between the rivers Kura and Araxes was ruled by a Shaddadid dynasty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaddadids


Source:FTDNA.com

Kmakkmak
04-20-2020, 09:55 AM
Scotland Clans and Dynasties

Clann Somhairle --------R1a-Z284

Clan MacDougall --------R1a-Z284

Uí Ímair Dynasty--------R1a-Z284

Crovan dynasty ---------R1a-Z284

Source: Eupedia.com

Kmakkmak
04-20-2020, 09:58 AM
Ashina Dynasty(552–659 and 682–744)--------------R1a-Z93

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_Khaganate

Source:https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?6327-Ashina-Paleo-DNA-and-documented-archive-descendants-of-Ashina-in-China/page2&__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=fc4b04e4dc73db4af3018581c3797d 4184beb1d8-1587376678-0-AQZcYCrWXwcyjGupriGlkX6DuVky6R-PQVdr2tqBTWJ38P-jrdaFtx9RhgiecpV9ueoetlXzmNlKP0aRDkqt2WzyBBoD04jEY 2bgPUqXYeUSntUrHKpkChyHbk-cIY7-OOf9V1vs0qv59Hme-rwqmwt0rGIMQjWuq7OhqTdeDx_h9J8F47EGaIHgDT2HiA4jAgK uHs_Q661qEUsnW-yUe-Xe78pa_cARingtbbeq3y6dj25_UXrOQNx9Sn3RUH-O23UE_Py9yx1oi0x2mKw3aBdxxp7p8-5NY8NmgdUmTh00xJN8WYNGrUxltqVdBqIDORaStlywjGA8kyvU I-FBLZV-Sc0qfAjDAfNwuPfm52NPuEgSM_PteUJxxT-7ko0lSxlLuGuSjMdqSCmHXudMMHI

Luso
04-20-2020, 07:51 PM
i'm r1b-L51 so no

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
04-20-2020, 07:54 PM
i'm r1b-L51 so no

All of the R1b posted by the OP are R1b-L51 as well, just down streams below the phylogenetic tree. Your haplogroup doesn't say much besides that you are R1b. You would have to do an haplogroup test to know more.

https://adamsfamilydna.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/R1b-tree.gif

**JC**
04-22-2020, 01:50 PM
I'm R1b-U106 Z344 upstream from the French kings cluster Z381
:thumb001:

tipirneni
04-25-2020, 12:53 AM
Louis XVI shows up on my timeline

H1a1 in South Asia is the clad that has a lot of history linking to numerous dynasties