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Bellbeaking
05-30-2019, 03:34 AM
Better Fit In England or France?

I did not include those born from outside the Island.

https://i.imgur.com/3gE2Vbn.png?1 Josh Butler, Oliver Newey, Lucas Barker

https://i.imgur.com/rpp3kew.png?1 Matt Breben, Nic Buckle, Bran Ferbache

https://i.imgur.com/QLYBLmS.png Ben Fitchet, David Hooper, Tom Kimber

https://i.imgur.com/vepEMD2.png?1 Luke Le Tissier, Jordan Martel, Tom nightingale

https://i.imgur.com/yNGmkv7.png?1 Jaime Nussbaumer, Luke Nussbaumer, Will Peatfield. Nussbaumer sounds Foreign but I will leave them in.

The three player in the last row which I have not included where not born in Jersey, see them on the site here https://www.guernseycricket.com/squad Here is the squad.

If you want Contrast them with this team from Leicester: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?289820-Leicester-Rugby-squad-Better-fit-in-Wales-or-Netherlands
Or this team from Exeter https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?287691-Exeter-Cheifs-Rugby-Team-SW-England-(class-pass-n-do-it-fast)
Or this compilation of Dark Britons/Irish https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?290081-Class-and-pass-Some-British-Island-People

The Genetic History of these Islands isn't really that well known. Though there is not good reason to think they are that different to the rest of Northern France. Recent immigration has been substantial from England and other places especially to Jersey so I cannot guarantee the Native-ness of these fellas but they where all born there so likely are natives. Where do you think they pass? Normandy, Brittany, England?

billErobreren
05-30-2019, 03:51 AM
Interesting pick. Got anything from the Isle of Wight?

These could be Normans easily. I'm not even talking Cherbourg here; all over, Cornwall after maybe(can't really picture some of those faces in Gateshead or Leeds for some reason) and wouldn't stand out among Betrons much either.


I hear ya on the Nussbaumer fellow, he barely looks like his team members. I think it means nut tree in German but I'm rusty

Bellbeaking
05-30-2019, 03:57 AM
Interesting pick. Got anything from the Isle of Wight?

These could be Normans easily. I'm not even talking Cherbourg here; all over, Cornwall after maybe(can't really picture some of those faces in Gateshead or Leeds for some reason) and wouldn't stand out among Betrons much either.


I hear ya on the Nussbaumer fellow, he barely looks like his team members. I think it means nut tree in German but I'm rusty

I could do a thread on the Isle of Wight, but fwiw they do not look any different from mainland English people which isn't surprising when you consider how close it is to the mainland and the fact that it has always been politically integrated with England

billErobreren
05-30-2019, 04:04 AM
I could do a thread on the Isle of Wight, but fwiw they do not look any different from mainland English people which isn't surprising when you consider how close it is to the mainland and the fact that it has always been politically integrated with England

Just as well. Can't really say I expected them to stand out much from say; your average crowd from Winchester. However, it was once upon a time a Jute settlement 'till the West Saxon kingdom, gave them a spanking for clinging to heathenry. Guess, I was hoping I'd see something more familiar in them.

Tooting Carmen
05-30-2019, 03:16 PM
More English than French to my eyes, except for Lucas Barker.

Bellbeaking
05-30-2019, 03:28 PM
More English than French to my eyes, except for Lucas Barker.

Which isn't surprising, As Northern French people (Germans too) who are fully native are closer to English genetically, than to say, central French (or central Germans - though less obviously phenotypically).

Deneb
05-30-2019, 06:12 PM
More English than French to my eyes, except for Lucas Barker.

I agree.

Bellbeaking
05-30-2019, 06:32 PM
david hooper also looks french to me

billErobreren
05-30-2019, 06:48 PM
david hooper also looks french to me

Him, Barker, Le Tissier and even Peatfield wouldn't stand out as far south as Minho provided they keep their mouths shut.