Western Balkan Eurogenes K13

[Ljubic]

Hungarians seem to be a popular topic right now. How about a thread with Eurogenes K13 results for users of Western Balkan origin?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.44
2 North_Atlantic 25.15
3 East_Med 16.77
4 West_Med 16.47
5 West_Asian 7.21
6 Red_Sea 1.75
7 Siberian 0.68
8 Amerindian 0.29
9 Sub-Saharan 0.22
10 Northeast_African 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.71
2 Moldavian 6.56
3 Romanian 7.26
4 Croatian 8.04
5 Bulgarian 8.85
6 Hungarian 9.13
7 Austrian 12.97
8 East_German 14.02
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.3
10 South_Polish 14.8
11 Ukrainian 15.23
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.23
13 Polish 18.26
14 Southwest_Russian 18.34
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.84
16 West_German 19
17 North_Italian 20.21
18 Russian_Smolensk 20.21
19 South_Dutch 20.43
20 Estonian_Polish 20.49

[Moje ime]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 29.36
2 Baltic 27.81
3 East_Med 16.07
4 West_Med 14.6
5 West_Asian 9.55
6 Red_Sea 1.14
7 Oceanian 0.52
8 Northeast_African 0.5
9 Amerindian 0.45

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 2.91
2 Romanian 6.31
3 Hungarian 7.19
4 Moldavian 8.45
5 Bulgarian 8.99
6 Croatian 9.62
7 Austrian 9.99
8 East_German 11.9
9 West_German 14.6
10 South_Polish 15.82
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.02
12 South_Dutch 16.33
13 French 16.68
14 Greek_Thessaly 16.95
15 Ukrainian 17.16
16 North_Italian 17.91
17 North_German 19.02
18 Tuscan 19.58
19 Polish 19.61
20 Portuguese 20.37

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.4% Hungarian + 22.6% Central_Greek @ 2.14
2 71.3% Bulgarian + 28.7% North_Swedish @ 2.18
3 85% Hungarian + 15% Cyprian @ 2.21
4 91.1% Serbian + 8.9% North_German @ 2.25
5 71.1% Hungarian + 28.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.25
6 92.1% Serbian + 7.9% Danish @ 2.26
7 92.7% Serbian + 7.3% Norwegian @ 2.28
8 92.3% Serbian + 7.7% North_Dutch @ 2.29
9 53.7% Romanian + 46.3% Hungarian @ 2.29
10 80.2% Hungarian + 19.8% South_Italian @ 2.29
11 56% Hungarian + 44% Bulgarian @ 2.29
12 92.5% Serbian + 7.5% Swedish @ 2.31
13 71.5% Bulgarian + 28.5% Swedish @ 2.32
14 78.4% Hungarian + 21.6% East_Sicilian @ 2.32
15 92.5% Serbian + 7.5% Southeast_English @ 2.35
16 93.4% Serbian + 6.6% Irish @ 2.38
17 82.8% Hungarian + 17.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.38
18 93.1% Serbian + 6.9% Orcadian @ 2.38
19 93.6% Serbian + 6.4% West_Scottish @ 2.39
20 89.7% Serbian + 10.3% West_German @ 2.4

[Jana]

Admix Results (sorted):

1 Baltic 32.36
2 North_Atlantic 29.78
3 West_Med 15.85
4 West_Asian 11.11
5 East_Med 9.41
6 Siberian 0.95
7 East_Asian 0.52
8 Red_Sea 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

1 Hungarian 5.17
2 Croatian 5.39
3 Moldavian 5.55
4 Serbian 7.85
5 Austrian 7.96
6 East_German 8.52
7 South_Polish 10.78
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.84
9 Romanian 11.45
10 Ukrainian 12.01
11 Bulgarian 13.94
12 Polish 14.52
13 West_German 15.15
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.99
15 Southwest_Russian 16
16 South_Dutch 16.45
17 Russian_Smolensk 17.17
18 North_German 17.52
19 Estonian_Polish 17.97
20 North_Swedish 18.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 61.2% Moldavian + 38.8% Austrian @ 2.99
2 83% Moldavian + 17% Southwest_English @ 3.08
3 82.9% Moldavian + 17.1% Irish @ 3.09
4 83.6% Moldavian + 16.4% West_Scottish @ 3.13
5 81.9% Moldavian + 18.1% Southeast_English @ 3.14
6 82.5% Moldavian + 17.5% Orcadian @ 3.15
7 81.6% Moldavian + 18.4% North_Dutch @ 3.16
8 79.2% Moldavian + 20.8% North_German @ 3.22
9 81.6% Moldavian + 18.4% Danish @ 3.23
10 78.2% Moldavian + 21.8% South_Dutch @ 3.24
11 82.4% Moldavian + 17.6% Norwegian @ 3.26
12 76.8% Moldavian + 23.2% West_German @ 3.28
13 63.8% Moldavian + 36.2% East_German @ 3.31
14 81.7% Moldavian + 18.3% Swedish @ 3.54
15 53.3% Hungarian + 46.7% Moldavian @ 3.69
16 79.6% Croatian + 20.4% West_German @ 3.86
17 58.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41.2% North_Italian @ 3.88
18 83% Croatian + 17% French @ 3.9
19 82.2% Moldavian + 17.8% French @ 3.91
20 81.3% Croatian + 18.7% South_Dutch @ 3.94

[Bessarion]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 32.03
2 Baltic 29.73
3 West_Med 12.69
4 East_Med 12.57
5 West_Asian 9.03
6 Amerindian 1.27


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarian @ 3.577389
2 Serbian @ 7.348007
3 Austrian @ 7.466421
4 Croatian @ 8.949246
5 Moldavian @ 9.241364
6 East_German @ 9.336734
7 Romanian @ 11.962053
8 West_German @ 14.286880
9 South_Polish @ 14.302524
10 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 15.135175
11 Bulgarian @ 15.239482
12 South_Dutch @ 16.199268
13 Ukrainian @ 16.364788
14 North_German @ 17.805134
15 French @ 18.333378
16 Polish @ 18.681089
17 North_Swedish @ 19.900709
18 Southwest_Russian @ 20.262062
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 20.536158
20 Swedish @ 20.683031

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% North_Swedish @ 3.038120


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Norwegian +25% South_Polish @ 1.963125

[Jana]

Hello Bessarion, and welcome. Where in Croatia you are from ?

[Ljubic]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 29.36
2 Baltic 27.81
3 East_Med 16.07
4 West_Med 14.6
5 West_Asian 9.55
6 Red_Sea 1.14
7 Oceanian 0.52
8 Northeast_African 0.5
9 Amerindian 0.45

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 2.91
2 Romanian 6.31
3 Hungarian 7.19
4 Moldavian 8.45
5 Bulgarian 8.99
6 Croatian 9.62
7 Austrian 9.99
8 East_German 11.9
9 West_German 14.6
10 South_Polish 15.82
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.02
12 South_Dutch 16.33
13 French 16.68
14 Greek_Thessaly 16.95
15 Ukrainian 17.16
16 North_Italian 17.91
17 North_German 19.02
18 Tuscan 19.58
19 Polish 19.61
20 Portuguese 20.37

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.4% Hungarian + 22.6% Central_Greek @ 2.14
2 71.3% Bulgarian + 28.7% North_Swedish @ 2.18
3 85% Hungarian + 15% Cyprian @ 2.21
4 91.1% Serbian + 8.9% North_German @ 2.25
5 71.1% Hungarian + 28.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.25
6 92.1% Serbian + 7.9% Danish @ 2.26
7 92.7% Serbian + 7.3% Norwegian @ 2.28
8 92.3% Serbian + 7.7% North_Dutch @ 2.29
9 53.7% Romanian + 46.3% Hungarian @ 2.29
10 80.2% Hungarian + 19.8% South_Italian @ 2.29
11 56% Hungarian + 44% Bulgarian @ 2.29
12 92.5% Serbian + 7.5% Swedish @ 2.31
13 71.5% Bulgarian + 28.5% Swedish @ 2.32
14 78.4% Hungarian + 21.6% East_Sicilian @ 2.32
15 92.5% Serbian + 7.5% Southeast_English @ 2.35
16 93.4% Serbian + 6.6% Irish @ 2.38
17 82.8% Hungarian + 17.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.38
18 93.1% Serbian + 6.9% Orcadian @ 2.38
19 93.6% Serbian + 6.4% West_Scottish @ 2.39
20 89.7% Serbian + 10.3% West_German @ 2.4

Nearly Spot on Serb :thumb001:

[Ford]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.22
2 North_Atlantic 26.17
3 West_Med 16.81
4 East_Med 14.24
5 West_Asian 7.66
6 Siberian 2.06
7 Red_Sea 0.66
8 Oceanian 0.17
9 Amerindian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.96
2 Serbian 5.39
3 Croatian 6.27
4 Hungarian 7.57
5 Romanian 8.59
6 Bulgarian 10.56
7 Austrian 11.47
8 East_German 12.24
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.49
10 South_Polish 12.95
11 Ukrainian 13.41
12 Polish 16.57
13 Southwest_Russian 16.88
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.41
15 West_German 18
16 Russian_Smolensk 18.69
17 Estonian_Polish 19
18 Greek_Thessaly 19.13
19 South_Dutch 19.34
20 Belorussian 19.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.8% Ukrainian + 33.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.62
2 57.6% Southwest_Russian + 42.4% Tuscan @ 2.66
3 63.3% Ukrainian + 36.7% Tuscan @ 2.8
4 61.8% Romanian + 38.2% Ukrainian @ 2.83
5 60% South_Polish + 40% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.91
6 69.5% Bulgarian + 30.5% Estonian @ 2.95
7 55.4% Bulgarian + 44.6% South_Polish @ 2.99
8 59.1% Ukrainian + 40.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.05
9 69.9% Ukrainian + 30.1% South_Italian @ 3.06
10 70% Romanian + 30% Estonian_Polish @ 3.08
11 74.7% Serbian + 25.3% Ukrainian @ 3.08
12 74.2% Romanian + 25.8% Estonian @ 3.1
13 56.4% Bulgarian + 43.6% Ukrainian @ 3.11
14 65.9% Ukrainian + 34.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.11
15 65% Croatian + 35% Bulgarian @ 3.12
16 59.6% Croatian + 40.4% Romanian @ 3.14
17 61.1% Romanian + 38.9% South_Polish @ 3.16
18 55% Greek_Thessaly + 45% Estonian @ 3.18
19 86.7% Croatian + 13.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.19
20 77.7% Croatian + 22.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.19

[Dušan]

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.78
2 North_Atlantic 22.32
3 West_Med 18.56
4 East_Med 12.69
5 West_Asian 8.15
6 Siberian 1.73
7 Red_Sea 1.13
8 Oceanian 0.92
9 South_Asian 0.72

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.63
2 Croatian 6.84
3 Serbian 8.18
4 Romanian 10.2
5 Hungarian 10.72
6 Bulgarian 11.37
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.17
8 Ukrainian 13.2
9 South_Polish 13.63
10 Austrian 14.51
11 East_German 14.85
12 Southwest_Russian 16.47
13 Polish 16.71
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.91
15 Russian_Smolensk 18.36
16 Estonian_Polish 18.69
17 Belorussian 19.61
18 Greek_Thessaly 19.71
19 Kargopol_Russian 20.05
20 Tatar 20.7


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Sardinian @ 3.52
2 60.5% Ukrainian + 39.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.89
3 67.8% Ukrainian + 32.2% Central_Greek @ 4.09
4 54.2% Bulgarian + 45.8% Ukrainian @ 4.12
5 94.6% Moldavian + 5.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.15
6 72.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 27.8% Sardinian @ 4.16
7 90.5% Moldavian + 9.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.16
8 71.1% Ukrainian + 28.9% South_Italian @ 4.17
9 84.3% Moldavian + 15.7% Bulgarian @ 4.19
10 93.9% Moldavian + 6.1% Ashkenazi @ 4.23
11 68.8% Ukrainian + 31.2% East_Sicilian @ 4.23
12 62.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 37.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.24
13 95.1% Moldavian + 4.9% Italian_Jewish @ 4.24
14 93.7% Moldavian + 6.3% Central_Greek @ 4.27
15 93.9% Moldavian + 6.1% East_Sicilian @ 4.27
16 94.6% Moldavian + 5.4% South_Italian @ 4.27
17 94% Moldavian + 6% West_Sicilian @ 4.28
18 95.9% Moldavian + 4.1% Cyprian @ 4.29
19 95.9% Moldavian + 4.1% Tunisian @ 4.29
20 96% Moldavian + 4% Moroccan @ 4.3



Moldovan stronk! :cool:

[Bessarion]

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[Bessarion]

Hello Bessarion, and welcome. Where in Croatia you are from ?


Koprivnica (for others...North Croatia), but the very mixed origin, Croatian north/south, West Czech, Bavarian, some distinct Serbian/Bulgarian (not sure).

I see, you actually have similar gen profile, from where you are?

[Bosniensis]

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.79
2 North_Atlantic 25.11
3 West_Med 16.52
4 East_Med 15.27
5 West_Asian 8.96
6 South_Asian 1.97
7 Red_Sea 1.41
8 East_Asian 0.99
9 Northeast_African 0.65
10 Oceanian 0.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.1
2 Romanian 5.38
3 Moldavian 6.46
4 Bulgarian 7.44
5 Croatian 8.74
6 Hungarian 9.11
7 Austrian 12.45
8 East_German 13.77
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.31
10 Greek_Thessaly 15.84
11 South_Polish 15.88
12 Ukrainian 16.47
13 West_German 17.83
14 North_Italian 18.6
15 French 19.26
16 South_Dutch 19.35
17 Polish 19.47
18 Southwest_Russian 19.82
19 Tuscan 19.93
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.1% Greek_Thessaly + 49.9% South_Polish @ 1.77
2 58.7% Ukrainian + 41.3% West_Sicilian @ 1.89
3 64.8% Croatian + 35.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.9
4 73.2% Croatian + 26.8% West_Sicilian @ 1.94
5 76.1% Croatian + 23.9% South_Italian @ 1.97
6 79.1% Croatian + 20.9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.05
7 63.2% South_Polish + 36.8% South_Italian @ 2.11
8 63.2% Romanian + 36.8% Croatian @ 2.12
9 73.9% Croatian + 26.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.12
10 73% Croatian + 27% Central_Greek @ 2.2
11 76.9% Romanian + 23.1% Ukrainian @ 2.22
12 55.2% Greek_Thessaly + 44.8% Polish @ 2.23
13 79.2% Croatian + 20.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.24
14 57.3% Ukrainian + 42.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.25
15 72.2% Croatian + 27.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.27
16 54.4% Bulgarian + 45.6% Croatian @ 2.27
17 79.3% Croatian + 20.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.28
18 60.4% South_Polish + 39.6% East_Sicilian @ 2.31
19 79.9% Romanian + 20.1% Polish @ 2.31
20 50.2% Tuscan + 49.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.34

[Jana]

Koprivnica (for others...North Croatia), but the very mixed origin, Croatian north/south, West Czech, Bavarian, some distinct Serbian/Bulgarian (not sure).

I see, you actually have similar gen profile, from where you are?

:thumb001:

Mostly Dalmatia, but not only :)

[Bessarion]

:thumb001:

Mostly Dalmatia, but not only :)

...me too, partly:cool:

[Dušan]

Serbian average in Eurogenes calculators is artificially slightly southern-shifted.
No way that Sinan with Goranci or Albanian partly family-side is closer to Serbian average then me.

Eurogenes K15 diagram shows that majority of tested Serbs on this example are northern than "average".

https://i.imgur.com/LjeiQnU.png

[Ljubic]

Serbian average in Eurogenes calculators is artificially slightly southern-shifted.
No way that Sinan with Goranci or Albanian partly family-side is closer to Serbian average then me.

Eurogenes K15 diagram shows that majority of tested Serbs on this example are northern than "average".

https://i.imgur.com/LjeiQnU.png

Yeah, just like many Croats are.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

http://oi66.tinypic.com/sxnj2s.jpg
http://oi65.tinypic.com/2qa1g0g.jpg

[Bosniensis]

You know you are not Croat when you score Bulgaria before Croatia xD

[Dušan]

Yeah, just like many Croats are.

Yeah, these are results of kajkavian Croats that Hrvoje posted.

https://i.imgur.com/VMcyCcB.png

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?290521-Origin-and-ethnogenesis-of-Kajkavian-Croats&p=6053714&viewfull=1#post6053714

[Pribislav]

Hrvoje, you are 0.25% negroid. Is that visible on lenght of your pride? :lol:

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Hrvoje, you are 0.25% negroid. Is that visible on lenght of your pride? :lol:

Ofc bro :cool:

[Pribislav]

Ofc bro :cool:

:thumb001:

[Ayetooey]

Dads.

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.47
2 North_Atlantic 24.12
3 West_Med 17.07
4 East_Med 15.22
5 West_Asian 9.07
6 Amerindian 1.16
7 South_Asian 0.66
8 Red_Sea 0.64
9 East_Asian 0.27
10 Sub-Saharan 0.27
11 Oceanian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.23
2 Moldavian 5.28
3 Romanian 7.13
4 Croatian 7.47
5 Bulgarian 8.6
6 Hungarian 9.41
7 Austrian 13.28
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.88
9 East_German 14.19
10 South_Polish 14.68
11 Ukrainian 14.88
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.33
13 Polish 18.08
14 Southwest_Russian 18.11
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.38
16 West_German 19.44
17 Russian_Smolensk 20.03
18 Estonian_Polish 20.45
19 North_Italian 20.67
20 South_Dutch 20.93


Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.8% Bulgarian + 36.2% Ukrainian @ 1.93
2 53.9% Ukrainian + 46.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.04
3 53.8% Croatian + 46.2% Bulgarian @ 2.07
4 68.3% Bulgarian + 31.7% Polish @ 2.16
5 66.1% Ukrainian + 33.9% South_Italian @ 2.28
6 75.4% Bulgarian + 24.6% Lithuanian @ 2.34
7 70.8% Croatian + 29.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.35
8 71% Bulgarian + 29% Estonian_Polish @ 2.35
9 63.7% Bulgarian + 36.3% South_Polish @ 2.43
10 62.4% Ukrainian + 37.6% Central_Greek @ 2.44
11 62.4% Bulgarian + 37.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.45
12 70.7% Bulgarian + 29.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.52
13 75.3% Bulgarian + 24.7% Estonian @ 2.58
14 51.1% Greek_Thessaly + 48.9% Polish @ 2.59
15 71.9% Bulgarian + 28.1% Belorussian @ 2.6
16 77.6% Croatian + 22.4% Central_Greek @ 2.61
17 80.4% Croatian + 19.6% South_Italian @ 2.64
18 79.3% Croatian + 20.7% Ashkenazi @ 2.72
19 68.9% Romanian + 31.1% Ukrainian @ 2.72
20 84.9% Croatian + 15.1% Cyprian @ 2.72

[Ljubic]

You know you are not Croat when you score Bulgaria before Croatia xD

Puh, you have dodged that bullet havent you?

[Cumansky]

Damn a few these niggas German af

[Voskos]

https://www.themaparchive.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/b9d24ee63e043d9dae72d8cfeefe8ff8/A/x/Ax00813.jpg

[Dušan]

Damn a few these niggas German af

Who?

[Ljubic]

Damn a few these niggas German af

How does high North Atlantic make you German? Croatia is not far from Austria and other Westerneuropean countries.

[Pribislav]

Damn a few these niggas German af

Among Serbs is ancient.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?277615-Krajina-Serb-(from-Banija)-results&p=5887747&viewfull=1#post5887747

[Cumansky]

Who?

Not you Dusan, I hope my kids in future have low North Atlantic as you

[Cumansky]

Among Serbs is ancient.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?277615-Krajina-Serb-(from-Banija)-results&p=5887747&viewfull=1#post5887747

Yeah right PribiVlach ancient Saxons

[Cumansky]

How does high North Atlantic make you German? Croatia is not far from Austria and other Westerneuropean countries.

Exactly

There are Germanics and there are Slavics, and because of history they have to be divided

Same as Croats and Serbs, Serbs and Albanians, Poles and Ukrainians, etc, etc, etc

[Pribislav]

Yeah right PribiVlach ancient Saxons

Germanic admixture in Serbs is from Goths, Gepids, Normans (Robert Guiscard's warriors) and Saxon miners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxons_in_medieval_Serbia

Germanic admixture in Croatians is recent. From assimilated Danube Swabians in the last 100 years.

[Cumansky]

Germanic admixture in Serbs is from Goths, Gepids, Normans (Robert Guiscard's warriors) and Saxon miners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxons_in_medieval_Serbia

Germanic admixture in Croatians is recent. From assimilated Danube Swabians in the last 100 years.

Probably you right, I'm not arguing.

[Jana]

My father

Admix Results (sorted):

1 Baltic 31.96
2 North_Atlantic 28.66
3 West_Med 15.44
4 East_Med 12.29
5 West_Asian 8.17
6 East_Asian 1.48
7 Amerindian 0.98
8 Siberian 0.59
9 Northeast_African 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

1 Hungarian 4.86
2 Croatian 5.11
3 Moldavian 5.12
4 Serbian 6
5 Austrian 8.82
6 East_German 9.54
7 Romanian 9.86
8 South_Polish 11.42
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.46
10 Bulgarian 12.24
11 Ukrainian 12.37
12 Polish 15.15
13 West_German 15.65
14 Southwest_Russian 16.24
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.54
16 South_Dutch 17.08
17 Russian_Smolensk 17.71
18 Estonian_Polish 18.19
19 French 18.57
20 Belorussian 18.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 56.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 43.5% North_Italian @ 2.19
2 66.2% Ukrainian + 33.8% Tuscan @ 2.54
3 57% Southwest_Russian + 43% North_Italian @ 2.59
4 69.1% Serbian + 30.9% Ukrainian @ 2.63
5 67.3% Serbian + 32.7% South_Polish @ 2.63
6 68.1% South_Polish + 31.9% Tuscan @ 2.65
7 83% Croatian + 17% North_Italian @ 2.7
8 71.5% South_Polish + 28.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.71
9 55.3% Croatian + 44.7% Serbian @ 2.72
10 53.9% Romanian + 46.1% South_Polish @ 2.76
11 73.7% Serbian + 26.3% Polish @ 2.78
12 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Tuscan @ 2.81
13 80.5% Serbian + 19.5% Estonian @ 2.87
14 70.5% South_Polish + 29.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.94
15 61.7% Bulgarian + 38.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.03
16 63.9% Ukrainian + 36.1% North_Italian @ 3.07
17 85.9% Croatian + 14.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.07
18 81.7% Serbian + 18.3% Lithuanian @ 3.08
19 68.2% Serbian + 31.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.09
20 61.3% Romanian + 38.7% Polish @ 3.1

[Jana]

Germanic admixture in Serbs is from Goths, Gepids, Normans (Robert Guiscard's warriors) and Saxon miners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxons_in_medieval_Serbia

Germanic admixture in Croatians is recent. From assimilated Danube Swabians in the last 100 years.

Pure speculation.

[Jana]

Interesting that my dad is only one with with East Asian above 1%. Some users score Siberian or Amerindian over 1%, but that is quite common in east part of europe. East Asian is not.

[Ljubic]

My father

Admix Results (sorted):

1 Baltic 31.96
2 North_Atlantic 28.66
3 West_Med 15.44
4 East_Med 12.29
5 West_Asian 8.17
6 East_Asian 1.48
7 Amerindian 0.98
8 Siberian 0.59
9 Northeast_African 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

1 Hungarian 4.86
2 Croatian 5.11
3 Moldavian 5.12
4 Serbian 6
5 Austrian 8.82
6 East_German 9.54
7 Romanian 9.86
8 South_Polish 11.42
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.46
10 Bulgarian 12.24
11 Ukrainian 12.37
12 Polish 15.15
13 West_German 15.65
14 Southwest_Russian 16.24
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.54
16 South_Dutch 17.08
17 Russian_Smolensk 17.71
18 Estonian_Polish 18.19
19 French 18.57
20 Belorussian 18.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 56.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 43.5% North_Italian @ 2.19
2 66.2% Ukrainian + 33.8% Tuscan @ 2.54
3 57% Southwest_Russian + 43% North_Italian @ 2.59
4 69.1% Serbian + 30.9% Ukrainian @ 2.63
5 67.3% Serbian + 32.7% South_Polish @ 2.63
6 68.1% South_Polish + 31.9% Tuscan @ 2.65
7 83% Croatian + 17% North_Italian @ 2.7
8 71.5% South_Polish + 28.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.71
9 55.3% Croatian + 44.7% Serbian @ 2.72
10 53.9% Romanian + 46.1% South_Polish @ 2.76
11 73.7% Serbian + 26.3% Polish @ 2.78
12 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Tuscan @ 2.81
13 80.5% Serbian + 19.5% Estonian @ 2.87
14 70.5% South_Polish + 29.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.94
15 61.7% Bulgarian + 38.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.03
16 63.9% Ukrainian + 36.1% North_Italian @ 3.07
17 85.9% Croatian + 14.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.07
18 81.7% Serbian + 18.3% Lithuanian @ 3.08
19 68.2% Serbian + 31.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.09
20 61.3% Romanian + 38.7% Polish @ 3.1

Fully Dalmatian?

[Jana]

Fully Dalmatian?

50% Hvar Island, Dalmatia
25% North Western Bosnia
12.5% Banovina, Central Croatia
12.5% North Western Croatia

:)

What about you ?

[Pribislav]

Pure speculation.

Many Croatians have recent German (mostly Danube Swabian) admixture. You, Hrvoje and Bessarion are one of them. There was no Saxon miners in Croatia in the middle age, unlike Serbia.

There is no recent German admixture in Serbs.

[Ljubic]

50% Hvar Island, Dalmatia
25% North Western Bosnia
12.5% Banovina, Central Croatia
12.5% North Western Croatia

:)

What about you ?

Hvar origin might explain the relatively high east asian. Haplogroup Q is fairly high for the region. 6 % isnt that much but still much more than in Croatia as whole.

My father is partly from Hercegovina and partly from Northeast Bosnia while my mother is Bosniak, German and Bulgarian.

Fathers results:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.99
2 North_Atlantic 23.37
3 West_Med 15.85
4 East_Med 13.45
5 West_Asian 9.54
6 Red_Sea 3.45
7 Sub-Saharan 0.83
8 Siberian 0.75
9 South_Asian 0.64
10 Northeast_African 0.06
11 Oceanian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.99
2 Serbian 5.76
3 Croatian 6.7
4 Romanian 8.16
5 Hungarian 9.34
6 Bulgarian 9.75
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.61
8 Austrian 13.31
9 South_Polish 13.84
10 Ukrainian 14.03
11 East_German 14.13
12 Southwest_Russian 16.97
13 Polish 17.09
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.18
15 Greek_Thessaly 18.31
16 Russian_Smolensk 18.81
17 Estonian_Polish 19.35
18 West_German 19.93
19 Belorussian 20.04
20 Tatar 20.7

[Jana]

Many Croatians have recent German (mostly Danube Swabian) admixture. You, Hrvoje and Bessarion are one of them. There was no Saxon miners in Croatia in the middle age, unlike Serbia.

There is no recent German admixture in Serbs.

But there were OstroGoths in Dalmatia, Gepids and Langobards in Panonnia. Than you had German craftsmen settled in royal cities of Panonnia like in Hungary.
Generally Croats don't have much German especially not in Dalmatia. Ph2ter has lot of Celtic, not that much Germanic, because Celts lived in Zagorje.

I cluster slightly east of Croatian average on Global 25, and it mostly fail to recognize this types of admixture in me. On 23andme I get Poland as country of ancestry 3 different regions.
Perhaps they were Prussian ?

[Jana]

Moje Ime has Celtic admixture. Hrvoje I think doesn't have Swabian, but assimilated Germans of Slovenia. He mentioned his Slovenian grandmother had German family name.

[Pribislav]

But there were OstroGoths in Dalmatia, Gepids and Langobards in Panonnia. Than you had German craftsmen settled in royal cities of Panonnia like in Hungary.
Generally Croats don't have much German especially not in Dalmatia. Ph2ter has lot of Celtic, not that much Germanic, because Celts lived in Zagorje.

I cluster slightly east of Croatian average on Global 25, and it mostly fail to recognize this types of admixture in me. On 23andme I get Poland as country of ancestry 3 different regions.
Perhaps they were Prussian ?

Ostrogoths, Gepids and Langobards were in early middle age. I think their input on autosomal of South Slavs in very low. Their influence is more visible in y dna. For example Sandžakian and Dalmatian Serbs have about 25% I1 (on good sample), but autosomally Germanic influence among them almost doesn't exist.
I think autosomally Germanic influence in Serbs is more related with Saxon miners than with Germanic tribes from early middle age.
Serbs with recent German ancestors are very rare. Croatians have more recent German influence than Serbs without doubt.

Your German ancestors were probably quite Slavic shifted Germans.

[TheMaestro]

H3HH33HH3H3


# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.46
2 North_Atlantic 23.1
3 West_Med 19.8
4 East_Med 16.27
5 West_Asian 10.83
6 Siberian 1.38
7 Red_Sea 0.94
8 Amerindian 0.91
9 Oceanian 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.85
2 Bulgarian 4.78
3 Serbian 5.6
4 Moldavian 9.38
5 Croatian 12.28
6 Hungarian 12.77
7 Greek_Thessaly 12.84
8 Austrian 15.53
9 North_Italian 16.59
10 East_German 17.06
11 Tuscan 17.43
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.7
13 Italian_Abruzzo 19.23
14 South_Polish 19.61
15 Central_Greek 19.76
16 West_German 19.82
17 Ukrainian 19.89
18 French 20.15
19 West_Sicilian 20.53
20 East_Sicilian 21.12

[Ljubic]

H3HH33HH3H3


# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.46
2 North_Atlantic 23.1
3 West_Med 19.8
4 East_Med 16.27
5 West_Asian 10.83
6 Siberian 1.38
7 Red_Sea 0.94
8 Amerindian 0.91
9 Oceanian 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.85
2 Bulgarian 4.78
3 Serbian 5.6
4 Moldavian 9.38
5 Croatian 12.28
6 Hungarian 12.77
7 Greek_Thessaly 12.84
8 Austrian 15.53
9 North_Italian 16.59
10 East_German 17.06
11 Tuscan 17.43
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.7
13 Italian_Abruzzo 19.23
14 South_Polish 19.61
15 Central_Greek 19.76
16 West_German 19.82
17 Ukrainian 19.89
18 French 20.15
19 West_Sicilian 20.53
20 East_Sicilian 21.12

Origin?

[Cumansky]

My father

Admix Results (sorted):

1 Baltic 31.96
2 North_Atlantic 28.66
3 West_Med 15.44
4 East_Med 12.29
5 West_Asian 8.17
6 East_Asian 1.48
7 Amerindian 0.98
8 Siberian 0.59
9 Northeast_African 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

1 Hungarian 4.86
2 Croatian 5.11
3 Moldavian 5.12
4 Serbian 6
5 Austrian 8.82
6 East_German 9.54
7 Romanian 9.86
8 South_Polish 11.42
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.46
10 Bulgarian 12.24
11 Ukrainian 12.37
12 Polish 15.15
13 West_German 15.65
14 Southwest_Russian 16.24
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.54
16 South_Dutch 17.08
17 Russian_Smolensk 17.71
18 Estonian_Polish 18.19
19 French 18.57
20 Belorussian 18.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 56.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 43.5% North_Italian @ 2.19
2 66.2% Ukrainian + 33.8% Tuscan @ 2.54
3 57% Southwest_Russian + 43% North_Italian @ 2.59
4 69.1% Serbian + 30.9% Ukrainian @ 2.63
5 67.3% Serbian + 32.7% South_Polish @ 2.63
6 68.1% South_Polish + 31.9% Tuscan @ 2.65
7 83% Croatian + 17% North_Italian @ 2.7
8 71.5% South_Polish + 28.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.71
9 55.3% Croatian + 44.7% Serbian @ 2.72
10 53.9% Romanian + 46.1% South_Polish @ 2.76
11 73.7% Serbian + 26.3% Polish @ 2.78
12 84.7% Croatian + 15.3% Tuscan @ 2.81
13 80.5% Serbian + 19.5% Estonian @ 2.87
14 70.5% South_Polish + 29.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.94
15 61.7% Bulgarian + 38.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.03
16 63.9% Ukrainian + 36.1% North_Italian @ 3.07
17 85.9% Croatian + 14.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.07
18 81.7% Serbian + 18.3% Lithuanian @ 3.08
19 68.2% Serbian + 31.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.09
20 61.3% Romanian + 38.7% Polish @ 3.1

Pole from East Galicia is more native lmao

1 Croatian 2.91
2 Moldavian 4.29
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.03
4 Hungarian 7.51
5 South_Polish 7.88
6 Ukrainian 8.16
7 Serbian 9.92
8 Southwest_Russian 11.07
9 Polish 11.23
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.47
11 East_German 11.88
12 Austrian 12.12
13 Russian_Smolensk 12.95
14 Estonian_Polish 13.45
15 Romanian 13.45
16 Belorussian 14.01
17 Bulgarian 15.29
18 Kargopol_Russian 15.57
19 Erzya 17.18
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.27

1 Baltic 37.04
2 North_Atlantic 26.01
3 West_Med 13.02
4 East_Med 11.34
5 West_Asian 8.13
6 Red_Sea 1.37
7 Siberian 1.2
8 Oceanian 0.89
9 Sub-Saharan 0.42
10 Amerindian 0.29
11 South_Asian 0.28
12 Northeast_African 0.02

1 58% Romanian + 42% Lithuanian @ 1.25
2 52.8% Serbian + 47.2% Southwest_Russian @ 1.29
3 72.1% Southwest_Russian + 27.9% Tuscan @ 1.29
4 50% Romanian + 50% Estonian_Polish @ 1.34
5 52.2% Belorussian + 47.8% Bulgarian @ 1.38
6 54.2% Russian_Smolensk + 45.8% Bulgarian @ 1.45
7 51% Russian_Smolensk + 49% Romanian @ 1.47
8 53.2% Estonian_Polish + 46.8% Bulgarian @ 1.49
9 71.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.6% Tuscan @ 1.5
10 51% Romanian + 49% Belorussian @ 1.51
11 54.8% Bulgarian + 45.2% Lithuanian @ 1.54
12 54.9% Southwest_Russian + 45.1% Romanian @ 1.64
13 62.2% Lithuanian + 37.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.69
14 54.3% Bulgarian + 45.7% Estonian @ 1.71
15 85.5% South_Polish + 14.5% Cyprian @ 1.74
16 69.5% Estonian_Polish + 30.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.75
17 83.5% Ukrainian + 16.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.76
18 53.7% Serbian + 46.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.76
19 57.8% Polish + 42.2% Bulgarian @ 1.79
20 65.6% Ukrainian + 34.4% Bulgarian @ 1.83

[Jana]

Pole from East Galicia is more native lmao

1 Croatian 2.91
2 Moldavian 4.29
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.03
4 Hungarian 7.51
5 South_Polish 7.88
6 Ukrainian 8.16
7 Serbian 9.92
8 Southwest_Russian 11.07
9 Polish 11.23
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.47
11 East_German 11.88
12 Austrian 12.12
13 Russian_Smolensk 12.95
14 Estonian_Polish 13.45
15 Romanian 13.45
16 Belorussian 14.01
17 Bulgarian 15.29
18 Kargopol_Russian 15.57
19 Erzya 17.18
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.04
2 North_Atlantic 26.01
3 West_Med 13.02
4 East_Med 11.34
5 West_Asian 8.13
6 Red_Sea 1.37
7 Siberian 1.2
8 Oceanian 0.89
9 Sub-Saharan 0.42
10 Amerindian 0.29
11 South_Asian 0.28
12 Northeast_African 0.02

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58% Romanian + 42% Lithuanian @ 1.25
2 52.8% Serbian + 47.2% Southwest_Russian @ 1.29
3 72.1% Southwest_Russian + 27.9% Tuscan @ 1.29
4 50% Romanian + 50% Estonian_Polish @ 1.34
5 52.2% Belorussian + 47.8% Bulgarian @ 1.38
6 54.2% Russian_Smolensk + 45.8% Bulgarian @ 1.45
7 51% Russian_Smolensk + 49% Romanian @ 1.47
8 53.2% Estonian_Polish + 46.8% Bulgarian @ 1.49
9 71.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.6% Tuscan @ 1.5
10 51% Romanian + 49% Belorussian @ 1.51
11 54.8% Bulgarian + 45.2% Lithuanian @ 1.54
12 54.9% Southwest_Russian + 45.1% Romanian @ 1.64
13 62.2% Lithuanian + 37.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.69
14 54.3% Bulgarian + 45.7% Estonian @ 1.71
15 85.5% South_Polish + 14.5% Cyprian @ 1.74
16 69.5% Estonian_Polish + 30.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.75
17 83.5% Ukrainian + 16.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.76
18 53.7% Serbian + 46.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.76
19 57.8% Polish + 42.2% Bulgarian @ 1.79
20 65.6% Ukrainian + 34.4% Bulgarian @ 1.83

White Croat remnant.

[Cumansky]

White Croat remnant.

Nope, world doesn't revolve around Croats 3 million nation lol, you are egomaniacs.

[Cumansky]

White Croat remnant.

He is Bosnian in the other calcs tho.

[Jana]

Nope, world doesn't revolve around Croats 3 million nation lol, you are egomaniacs.

Since Galicia is earliest location of White Croatia, it can't be a coincidence. White Croat remnants were assimilated by both southeastern Poles and western Ukrainians, also by Carpathian Rusyns.


He is Bosnian in the other calcs tho.

There never existed Slavic tribe of Bosnians, they are either of Croat or Serb origin.

[Jana]

I am little bit joking. White Croats were not like modern Croats, I supose all early Slavic tribes were similar and Avar_Szolad like.
Western Ukraine accumulated lot of Vlach admixture during history, so quite a few of natives there can lean to Croats.
Volat noticed this few years ago.

But I am not joking about the fact White Croats who didn't migrate south were assimilated by northern slavs, it's well known fact.

[Pribislav]

I am little bit joking. White Croats were not like modern Croats, I supose all early Slavic tribes were similar and Avar_Szolad like.
Western Ukraine accumulated lot of Vlach admixture during history, so quite a few of natives there can lean to Croats.
Volat noticed this few years ago.

But I am not joking about the fact White Croats who didn't migrate south were assimilated by northern slavs, it's well known fact.

Serbs from eastern Germany and western Czechia were assimilated by Germans and Czechs. Only few Lusatian Serbs survived 1000 years long germanization until today.

[Cumansky]

Since Galicia is earliest location of White Croatia, it can't be a coincidence. White Croat remnants were assimilated by both southeastern Poles and western Ukrainians, also by Carpathian Rusyns.



There never existed Slavic tribe of Bosnians, they are either of Croat or Serb origin.

Vlach origin, same as Serbs, Bosnians and Horvat Serbs.

And alot other overlapping admixtures Slavic, Germanic, Mediterranean, etc. And he purer Croat than your family according to GEDmatch lol.

[Jana]

Serbs from eastern Germany and western Czechia were assimilated by Germans and Czechs. Only few Lusatian Serbs survived 1000 years long germanization until today.

Yes, true.

[Jana]

Vlach origin, same as Serbs, Bosnians and Horvat Serbs.

And alot other overlapping admixtures Slavic, Germanic, Mediterranean, etc. And he purer Croat than your family according to GEDmatch lol.

Western Ukrainians are Slavic + Vlach, similar to some southwest Slavs.
Please don't use term Horvat Serbs, it is nonsense. There is no need to use cheap propaganda when you are not even Serb.

[Dick]

Yeah right PribiVlach ancient Saxons

I am the father of the Saxons that pillaged and raped britain. the Original Vlachosaxon :icon_twisted:


https://i.imgur.com/EVwpGLj.png

[Coastal Elite]

[I]H3HH33HH3H3


# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.85


Are you Romanian?

[Cumansky]

I am the father of the Saxons that pillaged and raped britain. the Original Vlachosaxon :icon_twisted:


https://i.imgur.com/EVwpGLj.png

Probably, or Goths that pillaged around Europe, or Vikings. I2 is native around Carpathians.

[Cumansky]

Western Ukrainians are Slavic + Vlach, similar to some southwest Slavs.
Please don't use term Horvat Serbs, it is nonsense. There is no need to use cheap propaganda when you are not even Serb.

Don't use Western Ukrainian, that not my direct lineage, you and your hubby make up propaganda every second word you typing.

[Aspirin]

Western Ukraine accumulated lot of Vlach admixture during history, so quite a few of natives there can lean to Croats.
Volat noticed this few years ago.

Yes, but it's valid only to Carpathian region, not for entire Galicia. People in this region have a visible Balkan influence in their autosomal results, and in most of the cases, have the closest populations to them Croatians and Moldavians, sometimes Moldavians as closest.

For example I posted results of this guy here, he is Boyko, and he plots a little bit South-Eastern from Croatian average.
http://forum.molgen.org/index.php/topic,1953.msg231534.html#msg231534

[HungryLion]

Yes, but it's valid only to Carpathian region, not for entire Galicia. People in this region have a visible Balkan influence in their autosomal results, and in most of the cases, have the closest populations to them Croatians and Moldavians, sometimes Moldavians as closest.

For example I posted results of this guy here, he is Boyko, and he plots a little bit South-Eastern from Croatian average.
http://forum.molgen.org/index.php/topic,1953.msg231534.html#msg231534

Trace of white Serbs, as name say..

[Vojnik]

Admix Results (sorted):


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
North_Atlantic
24.02


2
Baltic
22.65


3
East_Med
19.19


4
West_Med
17.23


5
West_Asian
11.73


6
Red_Sea
4.33


7
Amerindian
0.72


8
Northeast_African
0.07


9
Sub-Saharan
0.04


10
South_Asian
0.01


</tbody>


Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Romanian
3.03


2
Bulgarian
3.5


3
Serbian
6.64


4
Greek_Thessaly
9.42


5
Moldavian
12.94


6
Tuscan
14.03


7
North_Italian
14.63


8
Hungarian
14.71


9
Italian_Abruzzo
14.93


10
Croatian
15.62


11
Central_Greek
16.03


12
West_Sicilian
16.7


13
Austrian
16.96


14
East_Sicilian
17.19


15
Ashkenazi
19.03


16
East_German
19.08


17
French
19.47


18
West_German
19.82


19
Portuguese
19.98


20
South_Italian
20.27


</tbody>



Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

65.5%
Italian_Abruzzo
+
34.5%
Russian_Smolensk
@
1.47


2

69.5%
Italian_Abruzzo
+
30.5%
Lithuanian
@
1.48


3

66%
Italian_Abruzzo
+
34%
Estonian_Polish
@
1.57


4

59.7%
Italian_Abruzzo
+
40.3%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
1.63


5

51.1%
Italian_Abruzzo
+
48.9%
Croatian
@
1.66


6

63.9%
Italian_Abruzzo
+
36.1%
Polish
@
1.69


7

94.9%
Romanian
+
5.1%
Saudi
@
1.71


8

71.3%
Serbian
+
28.7%
Central_Greek
@
1.73


9

61.2%
Italian_Abruzzo
+
38.8%
Ukrainian
@
1.75


10

72.8%
Serbian
+
27.2%
East_Sicilian
@
1.86


11

94%
Romanian
+
6%
Bedouin
@
1.89


12

66.4%
Italian_Abruzzo
+
33.6%
Belorussian
@
1.89


13

95.3%
Romanian
+
4.7%
Yemenite_Jewish
@
1.92


14

91.6%
Romanian
+
8.4%
Sephardic_Jewish
@
1.95


15

83.2%
Serbian
+
16.8%
Cyprian
@
1.96


16

94.1%
Romanian
+
5.9%
Palestinian
@
1.97


17

92.6%
Romanian
+
7.4%
Tunisian_Jewish
@
1.97


18

92.7%
Romanian
+
7.3%
Libyan_Jewish
@
1.97


19

56.5%
South_Italian
+
43.5%
Polish
@
1.99


20

76.1%
Serbian
+
23.9%
South_Italian
@
2


</tbody>



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Croatian +50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.773930


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Romanian +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.453339


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Polish + Serbian @ 1.343988

[Aspirin]

Trace of white Serbs, as name say..

The name Boyko don't have anything to do with White Serbs (Boiki), in that region in the past lived only White Croats. And Balkan admixture in Carpathian region is clearly from Vlachs, peope are visible south-shifted compared with surounding Slavic populations from plains.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Trace of white Serbs, as name say..

There is no connection of White Serbs with Carpathians whatsoever, but nice try. Boyko is quite a new name for local Rusyns.
Boiki mentioned in context of White Serbs was reference to Celtic tribe Boii in western Czech Republic, where ancestors of Serbs lived.

I don't understand need even to claim ancestral region of Croatian people as related to Serbs, it is bordering insanity.

[Ford]

There is no connection of White Serbs with Carpathians whatsoever, but nice try. Boyko is quite a new name for local Rusyns.
Boiki mentioned in context of White Serbs was reference to Celtic tribe Boii in western Czech Republic, where ancestors of Serbs lived.

I don't understand need even to claim ancestral region of Croatian people as related to Serbs, it is bordering insanity.

My specific clade is only found in Germany, Poland and Sweden from what I've been able to gather. Maybe I'm one of those White Serbs? xD

[ph2ter]

My K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 34.99
2 North_Atlantic 33.09
3 West_Med 12.25
4 West_Asian 7.76
5 East_Med 6.52
6 Red_Sea 2.23
7 Amerindian 1.33
8 South_Asian 1.08
9 Oceanian 0.38
10 Siberian 0.36

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.62
2 East_German 5.39
3 Croatian 6.23
4 Austrian 6.53
5 South_Polish 7.18
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.07
7 Moldavian 8.99
8 Ukrainian 9.37
9 Polish 10.29
10 Serbian 12.22
11 North_Swedish 12.89
12 Southwest_Finnish 13.08
13 Southwest_Russian 13.27
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.43
15 Russian_Smolensk 13.44
16 Estonian_Polish 14.23
17 North_German 14.3
18 Belorussian 14.4
19 West_German 14.52
20 Swedish 15.06

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

My specific clade is only found in Germany, Poland and Sweden from what I've been able to gather. Maybe I'm one of those White Serbs? xD

Your ancestor was probably Boii who joined White Serbs on adventure south :D

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

My K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 34.99
2 North_Atlantic 33.09
3 West_Med 12.25
4 West_Asian 7.76
5 East_Med 6.52
6 Red_Sea 2.23
7 Amerindian 1.33
8 South_Asian 1.08
9 Oceanian 0.38
10 Siberian 0.36

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.62
2 East_German 5.39
3 Croatian 6.23
4 Austrian 6.53
5 South_Polish 7.18
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.07
7 Moldavian 8.99
8 Ukrainian 9.37
9 Polish 10.29
10 Serbian 12.22
11 North_Swedish 12.89
12 Southwest_Finnish 13.08
13 Southwest_Russian 13.27
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.43
15 Russian_Smolensk 13.44
16 Estonian_Polish 14.23
17 North_German 14.3
18 Belorussian 14.4
19 West_German 14.52
20 Swedish 15.06

Hey man, idk how many Croatian regional kits you have but is there some kind of cline in north Croatia ? I mean by that from Zagorje to Slavonia.
We did K15 PCA but not sure how pure selected samples are. I wonder how you compare to somebody from Međimurje, Moslavina, Podravina or Srijem.

[ph2ter]

Hey man, idk how many Croatian regional kits you have but is there some kind of cline in north Croatia ? I mean by that from Zagorje to Slavonia.
We did K15 PCA but not sure how pure selected samples are. I wonder how you compare to somebody from Međimurje, Moslavina, Podravina or Srijem.

I don't have anybody except my family.
My wife is also 100% genetically from Zagorje and she is not related to me. Her values are:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.74
2 North_Atlantic 32.29
3 West_Med 12.26
4 West_Asian 9.91
5 East_Med 7.07
6 South_Asian 1.82
7 Amerindian 1.16
8 East_Asian 1.1
9 Red_Sea 0.46
10 Sub-Saharan 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.36
2 Croatian 6.14
3 East_German 6.22
4 Austrian 6.72
5 Moldavian 8.08
6 South_Polish 8.34
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.14
8 Ukrainian 10.3
9 Serbian 11.17
10 Polish 11.8
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.02
12 Southwest_Russian 14.15
13 West_German 14.34
14 North_Swedish 14.43
15 North_German 14.67
16 Russian_Smolensk 14.74
17 Southwest_Finnish 15.01
18 Romanian 15.1
19 South_Dutch 15.59
20 Estonian_Polish 15.65

[Leto]

CommonSense is gone, here are his results:

Kit T361196

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.67
2 North_Atlantic 24.65
3 West_Med 17.63
4 East_Med 13.96
5 West_Asian 11.87
6 South_Asian 1.51
7 Oceanian 0.86
8 Amerindian 0.56
9 Siberian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.81
2 Romanian 5.69
3 Moldavian 6.37
4 Bulgarian 7.5
5 Croatian 9.22
6 Hungarian 10
7 Austrian 13.08
8 East_German 14.35
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.62
10 Greek_Thessaly 16.09
11 South_Polish 16.39
12 Ukrainian 16.86
13 West_German 18.32
14 North_Italian 18.99
15 South_Dutch 19.88
16 French 19.89
17 Polish 19.97
18 Southwest_Russian 20.23
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.29
20 Tuscan 20.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.6% Romanian + 46.4% Moldavian @ 2.81
2 55% Moldavian + 45% Bulgarian @ 2.96
3 79.5% Moldavian + 20.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.96
4 56% Bulgarian + 44% Croatian @ 3.09
5 82.9% Moldavian + 17.1% South_Italian @ 3.12
6 64.6% Romanian + 35.4% Croatian @ 3.13
7 78.4% Moldavian + 21.6% Tuscan @ 3.14
8 81% Moldavian + 19% West_Sicilian @ 3.18
9 74.1% Moldavian + 25.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.18
10 80.4% Moldavian + 19.6% Central_Greek @ 3.19
11 78% Romanian + 22% Ukrainian @ 3.23
12 72.4% Croatian + 27.6% Central_Greek @ 3.26
13 76.6% Romanian + 23.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.26
14 75.8% Croatian + 24.2% South_Italian @ 3.33
15 70.6% Bulgarian + 29.4% South_Polish @ 3.39
16 69.5% Bulgarian + 30.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.42
17 81.3% Romanian + 18.7% Polish @ 3.44
18 78% Romanian + 22% South_Polish @ 3.45
19 81.8% Moldavian + 18.2% East_Sicilian @ 3.45
20 71.8% Croatian + 28.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.46

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I don't have anybody except my family.
My wife is also 100% genetically from Zagorje and she is not related to me. Her values are:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.74
2 North_Atlantic 32.29
3 West_Med 12.26
4 West_Asian 9.91
5 East_Med 7.07
6 South_Asian 1.82
7 Amerindian 1.16
8 East_Asian 1.1
9 Red_Sea 0.46
10 Sub-Saharan 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.36
2 Croatian 6.14
3 East_German 6.22
4 Austrian 6.72
5 Moldavian 8.08
6 South_Polish 8.34
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.14
8 Ukrainian 10.3
9 Serbian 11.17
10 Polish 11.8
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.02
12 Southwest_Russian 14.15
13 West_German 14.34
14 North_Swedish 14.43
15 North_German 14.67
16 Russian_Smolensk 14.74
17 Southwest_Finnish 15.01
18 Romanian 15.1
19 South_Dutch 15.59
20 Estonian_Polish 15.65

Pretty similar to your results.

[Ikol]

Mine?

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.39
2 North_Atlantic 27.26
3 West_Med 19.07
4 East_Med 13.43
5 West_Asian 7.34
6 Red_Sea 1.92
7 Amerindian 1.05
8 East_Asian 0.68
9 Oceanian 0.49
10 Northeast_African 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.3
2 Romanian 7.08
3 Moldavian 7.44
4 Hungarian 8.45
5 Croatian 8.75
6 Bulgarian 9.35
7 Austrian 10.72
8 East_German 12.04
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.33
10 South_Polish 15.83
11 West_German 15.9
12 Ukrainian 16.49
13 French 16.86
14 Greek_Thessaly 17.06
15 North_Italian 17.15
16 South_Dutch 17.21
17 Polish 19.25
18 Portuguese 19.39
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.44
20 Tuscan 19.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.6% Croatian + 33.4% North_Italian @ 1.91
2 69.6% Croatian + 30.4% Tuscan @ 2.14
3 54.3% Ukrainian + 45.7% Tuscan @ 2.19
4 55% North_Italian + 45% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.47
5 56.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.8% Tuscan @ 2.54
6 70.8% Moldavian + 29.2% North_Italian @ 2.56
7 54.5% North_Italian + 45.5% Southwest_Russian @ 2.56
8 75.6% Moldavian + 24.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.76
9 52.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 47.1% North_Italian @ 2.77
10 50.4% Polish + 49.6% Tuscan @ 2.77
11 51% Ukrainian + 49% North_Italian @ 2.8
12 76.7% Moldavian + 23.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.89
13 75.9% Moldavian + 24.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.91
14 75.1% Moldavian + 24.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.92
15 73.7% Moldavian + 26.3% Portuguese @ 2.92
16 58.4% Tuscan + 41.6% Lithuanian @ 2.97
17 76.9% Moldavian + 23.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.06
18 75.4% Moldavian + 24.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.07
19 52.8% Tuscan + 47.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.09
20 79% Moldavian + 21% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.19


Why so mani croatia, north italy and spanish population sharing?