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The One
06-02-2019, 03:46 PM
Post female examples of modern women who are CM/Cro magnon/Cro magnid
I’ll start I think a pretty good example would be sprague grayden.
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There are two type of Cro-Magnon North-West and North-East. Which one?
The One
06-02-2019, 05:29 PM
There are two type of Cro-Magnon North-West and North-East. Which one?
North west, I’m guessing they are mainly found in France Germany perhaps the Netherlands and a slightly different one in England?
PaleoEuropean
06-02-2019, 05:33 PM
Post female examples of modern women who are CM/Cro magnon/Cro magnid
I’ll start I think a pretty good example would be sprague grayden.
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She looks too reduced to be called a true cro-magnid also her chin is not wide enough to be a true cro-magnon type. These are less reduced or truer examples imo.
https://i.imgur.com/dUie3Bu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/n9aPpFd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YA6eyun.jpg
PaleoEuropean
06-02-2019, 05:34 PM
Your example is Aurignacid I think.
The One
06-02-2019, 05:37 PM
Your example is Aurignacid I think.
Her face is quite wide tho, also isn’t Kate Middleton a bit to narrow/compressed malars/zygos ?
PaleoEuropean
06-02-2019, 05:41 PM
Her face is quite wide tho
Aurignacids can have wide cheekbones but they have a narrower chin and middle profile, You can see this one has a circular/wide jaw and the next has a pointed chin, the second would be Aurignacid, that is the biggest difference I have found between the two. Aurignacids have some Cro-magnon features but they are reduced.
https://i.imgur.com/OLzxZ0H.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gqbhsry.jpg
PaleoEuropean
06-02-2019, 05:42 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?6510-Cromagnid-versus-Aurignacid
The One
06-02-2019, 05:55 PM
Aurignacids can have wide cheekbones but they have a narrower chin and middle profile, You can see this one has a circular/wide jaw and the next has a pointed chin, the second would be Aurignacid, that is the biggest difference I have found between the two. Aurignacids have some Cro-magnon features but they are reduced.
https://i.imgur.com/OLzxZ0H.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gqbhsry.jpg
Ah I see, I understand it better now thanks for the explanation, however wouldn’t you say Kate Middleton is too narrow with compressed malars/zygos she seems to only have Cm influences, do you have any more examples of English cro magnon types in England except from Kate ?
North-West Upper Paleolithic
http://cdn03.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/moore-museum/julianne-moore-the-new-museum-01.jpg
North-East Upper Paleolithic
https://www.jejaktapak.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/model-Kate-Grigorieva.jpg
PaleoEuropean
06-02-2019, 06:04 PM
Sandy Shaw is the best example i can think of.
https://i.imgur.com/gF2CxTe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SDF7WLE.jpg
The One
06-02-2019, 06:07 PM
North-West Upper Paleolithic
http://cdn03.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/moore-museum/julianne-moore-the-new-museum-01.jpg
North-East Upper Paleolithic
https://www.jejaktapak.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/model-Kate-Grigorieva.jpg
So north west cro magnons have more compressed malars/zygomatic bones?
PaleoEuropean
06-02-2019, 06:09 PM
North-West Upper Paleolithic
http://cdn03.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/moore-museum/julianne-moore-the-new-museum-01.jpg
North-East Upper Paleolithic
https://www.jejaktapak.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/model-Kate-Grigorieva.jpg
Cro-Magnid= less reduced Julaine moor's browline is more Indo-Aryan/Med and the second is way too reduced.
PaleoEuropean
06-02-2019, 06:16 PM
If they don't look like they can crack walnuts with their chin or take a punch from Rocky Marciano they aren't cro-magnoid or are reduced cro-magnoids.
https://i.imgur.com/PLmYmvE.jpg
The One
06-02-2019, 06:18 PM
If they don't look like they can crack walnuts with their chin they aren't cro-magnoid or are reduced cro-magnoids.
https://i.imgur.com/PLmYmvE.jpg
Sandy shaw is a very good example btw looks a lot like that reconstruction, although is it just me or the chin on the reconstruction seems quite small and weak?
Very attractive type on females tbh.
PaleoEuropean
06-02-2019, 06:25 PM
Sandy shaw is a very good example btw looks a lot like that reconstruction, although is it just me or the chin on the reconstruction seems quite small and weak?
They always screw up on the reconstructions when it comes to cheeks and chins because a great deal of the mass is muscle designed for eating meat. They made Loschbour man look small chinned too. Thats what you get when you let computers tell you how things look. I think Sandy Shaw is a better example jaw wise, from the cro-magnon jaws we have, they are all wide. Come to think of it, I don't think I have ever seen an intact female cro-magnon skull, I wonder what they even based that off of.
https://i.imgur.com/dAEFRtU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ipPSVOy.jpg
The One
06-02-2019, 06:26 PM
Very attractive type on females tbh.
Definitely agreed
Cro-Magnid= less reduced Julaine moor's browline is more Indo-Aryan/Med and the second is way too reduced.
I took Julianne Moore from Brunn Examples thread since Brunn is North-West Upper Paleolithic type.
Karen Gilan also was classified as Brunn.
https://www.voodou.co.uk/files/2010/11/kgillan_gl_3nov10_pa_b.jpg
PaleoEuropean
06-02-2019, 06:31 PM
I took Julianne Moore from Brunn Examples thread since Brunn is North-West Upper Paleolithic type.
Karen Gilan also was classified as Brunn.
https://www.voodou.co.uk/files/2010/11/kgillan_gl_3nov10_pa_b.jpg
Would definitely think Karen Gilian is more Cro-magnoid. You can be a reduced cro-magnoid, I am borreby but I am not like some of the extreme non-reduced borreby's. There are some more cro-magnoid phenotypes but that does not mean they are cro-magnid. Cro-magnid is like caveman mammoth hunter era, very archiac and unreduced.
I think Gemma Arterton and Jessica Chastain are good examples.
https://i.imgur.com/zTFpU41.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AIK4agX.jpg
The One
06-02-2019, 06:33 PM
They always screw up on the reconstructions when it comes to cheeks and chins because a great deal of the mass is muscle designed for eating meat. They made Loschbour man look small chinned too. Thats what you get when you let computers tell you how things look. I think Sandy Shaw is a better example jaw wise, from the cro-magnon jaws we have, they are all wide. Come to think of it, I don't think I have ever seen an intact female cro-magnon skull, I wonder what they even based that off of.
https://i.imgur.com/dAEFRtU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ipPSVOy.jpg
I think I resemble that Male reconstruction a bit can I send you a pm of my lower third to see if I am CM/Cro magnon influenced?
Golden Lining
06-02-2019, 06:43 PM
Female should technically look more "Cro magnon" in general, since Cro-Magnon traits are more feminine. But none of your examples is a really "Cromagnid type".
PaleoEuropean
06-02-2019, 06:48 PM
I think I resemble that Male reconstruction a bit can I send you a pm of my lower third to see if I am CM/Cro magnon influenced?
No problem. I am actually related to Loschbour man, we share the same Y lineage.
PaleoEuropean
06-02-2019, 06:49 PM
Also Loschbour man is a bit reduced too, he is further down stream from the orignal cro-magnons he would be considered a WHG because of their evolution as they moved north.
The One
06-02-2019, 06:51 PM
No problem. I am actually related to Loschbour man, we share the same Y lineage.
Nevermind found it
LawrenceMartinez
06-02-2019, 06:54 PM
Catherine Zeta Jones, textbook Paleo-atlantid imo
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/80/8f/b8/808fb8feaa04e0b09b95d15a1b9caa2f.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a7/4c/16/a74c1672fc1596a80ddadb280fd7f731.jpg
PaleoEuropean
06-02-2019, 06:55 PM
Catherine Zeta Jones, textbook Paleo-atlantid imo
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/80/8f/b8/808fb8feaa04e0b09b95d15a1b9caa2f.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a7/4c/16/a74c1672fc1596a80ddadb280fd7f731.jpg
Paleo-Atlantid is reduced, not as robust or exaggerated.
PaleoEuropean
06-02-2019, 06:56 PM
Less reduced traits
https://i.imgur.com/pa8MPhZ.jpg
LawrenceMartinez
06-02-2019, 07:02 PM
I think Brie Larson would be a good example (she looks a bit alpinized tho)
https://www.rbsdirect.com.br/imagesrc/24829265.jpg?w=700
https://i2.wp.com/claudiabartelle.com.br/wp-content/uploads/Brie-Larson-Is-Ripped-Watch-Her-Slam-Down-A-7kg-Hammer-Effortlessly.jpg?fit=2456%2C3408
https://stylist-assets.imgix.net/app/uploads/2018/09/21125525/brie-1-crop-1537530965-1680x1120.jpg?w=1200&h=1&fit=max&auto=format%2Ccompress
LawrenceMartinez
06-02-2019, 07:04 PM
Paleo-Atlantid is reduced, not as robust or exaggerated.
Paleo-atlantid is the same thing as Brünn
If they don't look like they can crack walnuts with their chin or take a punch from Rocky Marciano they aren't cro-magnoid or are reduced cro-magnoids.
https://i.imgur.com/PLmYmvE.jpg
This is a neanderthal and she doesn't have too much of a chin. Chin is a gracile and modern trait. It is her jaw that is strong
21993
06-02-2019, 07:08 PM
Catherine Zeta Jones, textbook Paleo-atlantid imo
I think Catherine Zeta Jones is rather Atlanto Med but I might be wrong.
Paleo-atlantid is the same thing as Brünn
Probably not true tho, broski
21993
06-02-2019, 07:09 PM
Female should technically look more "Cro magnon" in general, since Cro-Magnon traits are more feminine.
Whaaat?
Female should technically look more "Cro magnon" in general, since Cro-Magnon traits are more feminine. But none of your examples is a really "Cromagnid type".
What do you mean?
LawrenceMartinez
06-02-2019, 07:30 PM
Probably not true tho, broski
Paleo-atlantid was a term used by Lundman that describes the same thing as Coon's Brünn
Whaaat?
I think he might be right. I'm not sure about North-West European Upper Paleolithic types but Coon mentioned that in Eastern Europe North-East Eurpopean Upper Paleolithic traits come out as a rule more strongly among women than among the men.
For example this woman is a good example of North-East European UP type in my opinion. This type is not rare among NE European women but you can hardly find it among men.
https://i.imgur.com/uSTVNiA.png
PaleoEuropean
06-02-2019, 07:49 PM
What do you mean?
That makes zero sense to me either XD Cro-Magnoid is the opposite of feminine, very robust and masculine.
Moje ime
06-02-2019, 07:58 PM
Dragana Mićalović, Serbian actress. She's been classified as Pontid + CM.
https://stat.hellomagazin.rs/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/dragana-micalovic-antonio-ahel-min.jpg
http://pink-rs.com/media/image/portal-media-e15a8879-2452-fb34-24f9-5696b8b49d4b/720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdWNqrCuoXo
Paleo-atlantid was a term used by Lundman that describes the same thing as Coon's Brünn
I don't think so
I think many believe that being Cro-Magnon it means to be robust. But look at this Cro-Magnon reconsruction. He's not even robust in comparison with the examples in this thread. He has a archaic look, the examples in this thread don't have it. Only the girl above I posted look similar to him.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a5/40/04/a5400479b31cc7b13a4abac3a597a720.gif
The One
06-03-2019, 12:47 AM
I think Rebecca Ferguson is pretty CM She’s half Swedish half English and Scottish
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happycow
06-03-2019, 12:55 AM
What about this woman? I made a classification thread the other day but only got one classification. Is she CM or more Faelid? :confused:
https://i.imgur.com/MDHIDK4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/c2GcvcE.jpg
The-Hesse
06-03-2019, 09:03 AM
since Cro-Magnon traits are more feminine.
He refers to social sience attractiveness research bullshit.
Wide face and small chin = Cuteness (Kindchenschema)
Probably he also browses to much imageboards and belives in the Chad meme.
Nurzat
06-03-2019, 03:04 PM
He has a archaic look, the examples in this thread don't have it. Only the girl above I posted look similar to him.
I think my waifu is archaic/Upper Palaeolithic CroMagnon-looking. what do you think? she's northeast Romanian (Moldovan) with only minor Tatar ancestry. kid is also dolicho.
don't quote the photo
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/61990110_2276264026022051_3152016506431209472_n.pn g?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=f81b115aff991f68c92f5c42ae9ba2ad&oe=5D53F3CD
PaleoEuropean
06-03-2019, 03:06 PM
[QUOTE=Nurzat;6070665]I think my waifu is archaic/Upper Palaeolithic CroMagnon-looking. what do you think? she's northeast Romanian (Moldovan) with only minor Tatar ancestry.
don't quote the photo
I can see a lot of the influences but she has an Aurignacid like chin.
I think my waifu is archaic/Upper Palaeolithic CroMagnon-looking. what do you think? she's northeast Romanian (Moldovan) with only minor Tatar ancestry. kid is also dolicho.
don't quote the photo
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/61990110_2276264026022051_3152016506431209472_n.pn g?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=f81b115aff991f68c92f5c42ae9ba2ad&oe=5D53F3CD
Yes, I think so. This type is much closer to that Cro-Magnon reeconstruction than those North-West European women above.
PaleoEuropean
06-03-2019, 03:11 PM
Sandy shaw is a very good example btw looks a lot like that reconstruction, although is it just me or the chin on the reconstruction seems quite small and weak?
I mad a mistake that picture is a Neanderthal not cro-magnon, Neanderthals had very weak chins
Nurzat
06-03-2019, 03:20 PM
Yes, I think so. This type is much closer to that Cro-Magnon reeconstruction than those North-West European women above.
I can see a lot of the influences but she has an Aurignacid like chin.
what about my maternal grandma (that's my brother by her, not me)? most of my direct ancestors (parents, grandparents, greatgrandparents) look heavily CM-like. I only post the women here since that's the thread's topic. also this CM types in my family look neither Eastern (Slavic) nor Western (Germanic) I think, they're just archaic.
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20584_10202778077252886_3771479969940389885_n.jpg? _nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=7b9680bc2a19490bd1181f9fdf24390c&oe=5D5A77DC
what about my maternal grandma (that's my brother by her, not me)? most of my direct ancestors (parents, grandparents, greatgrandparents) look heavily CM-like. I only post the women here since that's the thread's topic. also this CM types in my family look neither Eastern (Slavic) nor Western (Germanic) I think, they're just archaic.
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20584_10202778077252886_3771479969940389885_n.jpg? _nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=7b9680bc2a19490bd1181f9fdf24390c&oe=5D5A77DC
Yes, Cro-Magnon look is archaic look.
PaleoEuropean
06-03-2019, 03:25 PM
I think many believe that being Cro-Magnon it means to be robust. But look at this Cro-Magnon reconsruction. He's not even robust in comparison with the examples in this thread. He has a archaic look, the examples in this thread don't have it. Only the girl above I posted look similar to him.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a5/40/04/a5400479b31cc7b13a4abac3a597a720.gif
That is an artistic reconstruction not a forensic. That series of reconstructions is very old too. That isn't a terrible representation though. He looks closer to a female specimen than a male would. This is a Mesolithic Swedish Female so she would have been reduced from Cro-Magnon. Cro-Magnon only refers to the earliest Humans in Europe from which European cultures derived and expanded from. Since this women is from the Mesolithic period she is too developed to be considered a Cro-Magnon. The second picture is of a reconstruction in the same series that your pic is from, even this one is old; these are from the 40's to 1950's I believe. They aren't a good representation. Otzi the Iceman even though he is of Middle Eastern lineage not I he is a good example, he is third pic.
https://i.imgur.com/wuHxCQH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MicQHrj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HU1EuLe.jpg
PaleoEuropean
06-03-2019, 03:28 PM
[QUOTE=Nurzat;6070709]what about my maternal grandma (that's my brother by her, not me)? most of my direct ancestors (parents, grandparents, greatgrandparents) look heavily CM-like. I only post the women here since that's the thread's topic. also this CM types in my family look neither Eastern (Slavic) nor Western (Germanic) I think, they're just archaic.
def some heavy cro-magnoid traits, her chin is also a little pointed, but its more rounded. Heavy Cro-Magnoid=Square or large circular jaws.
ixulescu
06-03-2019, 03:30 PM
I'm not impressed with the examples so far. Too many frail looking wide jaws.
Here's a proper robust one:
https://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2014/07/lucy-lawless-agents-of-shield-103336.jpg
PaleoEuropean
06-03-2019, 03:33 PM
[QUOTE=Nurzat;6070709]what about my maternal grandma (that's my brother by her, not me)? most of my direct ancestors (parents, grandparents, greatgrandparents) look heavily CM-like. I only post the women here since that's the thread's topic. also this CM types in my family look neither Eastern (Slavic) nor Western (Germanic) I think, they're just archaic.
I would say you have cro-magnoid traits too, Haplgroup IJ was the original cro-magnon haplgroup, so yours and mine people split around anatolia and my people went north. But both haplgroup I and J formed the proto-Cromagnon haplgroup.
PaleoEuropean
06-03-2019, 03:37 PM
I'm not impressed with the examples so far. Too many frail looking wide jaws.
Here's a proper robust one:
https://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2014/07/lucy-lawless-agents-of-shield-103336.jpg
She is super reduced, she has some cro-magnoid traits but her jaw is too small, she looks more Mediterranean. She is from NZ which means she probably has lineage in the UK which means she probably is from an Indo-Aryan female lineage not Cro-Magnon. The female Cro-Magnon lineages in the Uk were very small as were the male due to a lot of disasters, the population almost went extinct several times. But I agree face muscle wise. she has a truly robust face she is just missing a stronger jaw.
https://i.imgur.com/SeQF4ZM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0rQwsYH.jpg
That is an artistic reconstruction not a forensic.
As far as I know that is forensic facial reconstruction by Russian anthropologist Gerasimov.
Nurzat
06-03-2019, 03:57 PM
I would say you have cro-magnoid traits too, Haplgroup IJ was the original cro-magnon haplgroup, so yours and mine people split around anatolia and my people went north. But both haplgroup I and J formed the proto-Cromagnon haplgroup.
genetically I am not Near Eastern, J2 is at 5% among Germans and 12% among Ukrainians. overall I score some 70% Northeast + Northwest Euro genes and the rest is Southeast Euro and slight Siberian :D haplogroup is quite irrelevant on a personal level but it is good for population genetics/conclusions. given the region I come from most of my ancestry must come from R1a and I2a males and all sorts of H and U females.
PaleoEuropean
06-03-2019, 04:16 PM
As far as I know that is forensic facial reconstruction by Russian anthropologist Gerasimov.
Still pretty dated and I admitted its not bad, but it's not completely accurate either. I read that the skull that is based off of is from 28,000 years ago (might be wrong read a quick little bit) If that's true he would already be up into the Gravettian period which were descendants of Cro-magnons but far developed from them. Cro-Magnon is pre-Aurignacian which is like 48-50,000 years ago before and during the times when humans bred with Neanderthals and Denisovans.
Nurzat
06-03-2019, 04:56 PM
Still pretty dated and I admitted its not bad, but it's not completely accurate either. I read that the skull that is based off of is from 28,000 years ago (might be wrong read a quick little bit) If that's true he would already be up into the Gravettian period which were descendants of Cro-magnons but far developed from them. Cro-Magnon is pre-Aurignacian which is like 48-50,000 years ago before and during the times when humans bred with Neanderthals and Denisovans.
you're going too far away in time - we usually consider archaic up to WHG, EHG, CHG and Natufian populations' time, i.e. towards the end of the Paleolithic, around 10,000 years ago and even a bit more recently into the next few thousand years, in the Mesolithic
PaleoEuropean
06-03-2019, 05:01 PM
you're going too far away in time - we usually consider archaic up to WHG people, EHG, CHG and Natufian people's time, i.e. towads the end of the Paleolithic, around 10,000 years ago and even a bit more recently in the next few thousand years, in the Mesolithic
They are archiac but they are still very reduced and advanced compared to the humans that bred with the Neanderthals.
Daria Zemkova
https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-450/1225852p/27da64b1/finalists-in-john-gallianos-fashion-fringe-covent-garden-london-britain-shutterstock-editorial-1225852p.jpg
Pretty close to actual Cro-Magnon woman
http://antropogenez.ru/uploads/pics/8b.jpg
Russian singer Daria Stavrovich
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/36/33/843633a7b60128f99bc952d4740b1ef1.jpg
http://n1s1.starhit.ru/97/51/94/9751942e576ae15ad3f58bf7eb89692a/480x497_0_65cde3b92e978c138e5c26480d3f89be@480x497 _0xc0a8399a_10751393331478011728.jpeg
http://n1s1.starhit.ru/a0/57/83/a05783207a2ad45a15171b8473d105bc/480x497_0_70b46e4f35b875f00fd6809bb390f043@480x497 _0xc0a8399a_12828557111482147179.jpeg
Belarusian
https://msqmodels.com/uploads/images/app-models-section/45/images/original/E17MOq26UY4SLc2w.jpg
https://msqmodels.com/uploads/images/app-models-section/45/images/portfolio/TKDec4mITxYwnzG2.jpg
https://msqmodels.com/uploads/images/app-models-section/45/images/original/e34if2HBJb7Pms9n.jpg
Moje ime
06-03-2019, 06:21 PM
Daria Zemkova
https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-450/1225852p/27da64b1/finalists-in-john-gallianos-fashion-fringe-covent-garden-london-britain-shutterstock-editorial-1225852p.jpg
Pretty close to actual Cro-Magnon woman
http://antropogenez.ru/uploads/pics/8b.jpg
Chin isn't similar at all.
Moje ime
06-03-2019, 06:22 PM
It seems that CM nose is more frequent in modern people than CM chin.
It seems that CM nose is more frequent in modern people than CM chin.
Do you have any examples of CM noses?
Moje ime
06-03-2019, 06:34 PM
Do you have any examples of CM noses?
Almost all examples from this thread, low-rooted, short and often turned up. Borreby phenotype is CM phenotype.
PaleoEuropean
06-03-2019, 06:43 PM
Chin isn't similar at all.
Thats because those are Asians who bred with Europeans, they are not of European Cro-Magnon lineage, he is stuck on the idea.
https://i.imgur.com/nMOJESz.jpg
"mtDNA analysis shows that the four individuals tested from Sungir belong to mtDNA Haplogroup U. The individual from Burial 1 belongs to mtDNA Haplogroup U8c, while the three individuals from Burial 2 belong to mtDNA Haplogroup U2. Y-DNA analysis shows that all four of the tested individuals from Sungir belong to Y-DNA Haplogroup C1a2.[1]"
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CI_lyJ9dvj4/maxresdefault.jpg
https://cdn.britannica.com/s:300x300/97/44397-004-D45BC527.jpg
http://www.kunstkamera.ru/images/g/09_05.jpg
http://www.pro-product-photography.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Native-Indian-Sitting-Bull.png
TheOldNorth
06-03-2019, 07:15 PM
If they don't look like they can crack walnuts with their chin or take a punch from Rocky Marciano they aren't cro-magnoid or are reduced cro-magnoids.
https://i.imgur.com/PLmYmvE.jpg
that's clearly a neanderthal, not a cro-magnon
Jennifer Lawrence
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Sm8iWjWcTb0/maxresdefault.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hKL2BxG.jpg
The One
06-03-2019, 11:44 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CI_lyJ9dvj4/maxresdefault.jpg
https://cdn.britannica.com/s:300x300/97/44397-004-D45BC527.jpg
http://www.kunstkamera.ru/images/g/09_05.jpg
http://www.pro-product-photography.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Native-Indian-Sitting-Bull.png
I don’t understand the point could you elaborate?
I don’t understand the point could you elaborate?
The first three examples are Cro-Magnons, the last one is native American.
Daria Klishina
https://gdb.rferl.org/35B37D48-D681-4FED-9D28-16EF6361C8D4_w1023_r1_s.jpg
Thats because those are Asians who bred with Europeans, they are not of European Cro-Magnon lineage, he is stuck on the idea.
The original Cro-Magnons were Mongoloids.
Coon said
During the Late Pleistocene age, the post-glacial Mesolithic cultural period, descendants of Upper Palaeolithic hunters lived in North Africa, in most of Europe, and in western Siberia, where some of them merged into the ancestors of the mongoloid group of humanity. Even during the Upper Palaeolithic cultural period in western Europe, some of the hunting peoples showed incipiently mongoloid racial tendencies. Among the living descendants of these hunters, these tendencies are more common in the eastern groups than among those living in the west.
https://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe095.jpg
FIG.5 (1 view). A Finn from Vasa (S. Ostrobothnia), who is anthropometrically and morphologically very close to the Irishman from Leitrim. The same curly hair, and the same conformation of the forehead, lips, and nose have produced a striking similarity. This and other evidence indicate that features which in Finns are often popularly supposed to be mongoloid are actually of European Upper Palaeolithic inspiration.
Also "Mongoloid" Brunn.
https://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe096.jpg
He is close to North-East Upper Paleolithic type.
https://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe022.jpg
Anne McClain - American astronaut
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Anne_C._McClain_portrait.jpg/220px-Anne_C._McClain_portrait.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1127165846483288064/z_ZR5PJj.jpg
Małgorzata Foremniak - Polish actress (squarish orbits and face)
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aGXACTriIkY/W_wyiDkWVPI/AAAAAAAACcQ/hldNslYWRPYN4FRYeiwA4v3JQLWOgzQuwCLcBGAs/s1600/1m.jpg
https://ssl-gfx.filmweb.pl/ph/00/17/10017/683807.1.jpg
Almost all examples from this thread, low-rooted, short and often turned up. Borreby phenotype is CM phenotype.
Borrebies have some strong non-CM tendencies though
Moje ime
06-04-2019, 09:25 PM
Borrebies have some strong non-CM tendencies though
What for example?
PaleoEuropean
06-04-2019, 09:27 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CI_lyJ9dvj4/maxresdefault.jpg
https://cdn.britannica.com/s:300x300/97/44397-004-D45BC527.jpg
http://www.kunstkamera.ru/images/g/09_05.jpg
http://www.pro-product-photography.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Native-Indian-Sitting-Bull.png
Dude stop peddling your Siberian theories of being Cro-Magnons it's simlply not true, Cro-Magnons bred With the ANE, the ANE are not Cro-Magnon Europeans XD. You are reaching far.
PaleoEuropean
06-04-2019, 09:29 PM
Anne McClain - American astronaut
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Anne_C._McClain_portrait.jpg/220px-Anne_C._McClain_portrait.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1127165846483288064/z_ZR5PJj.jpg
Małgorzata Foremniak - Polish actress (squarish orbits and face)
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aGXACTriIkY/W_wyiDkWVPI/AAAAAAAACcQ/hldNslYWRPYN4FRYeiwA4v3JQLWOgzQuwCLcBGAs/s1600/1m.jpg
https://ssl-gfx.filmweb.pl/ph/00/17/10017/683807.1.jpg
Her jaw and some features are Aurignacid though, she does have a lot of CM tendencies but reduced.
Finnish girl
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COnbY0WW8AAymAd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COnbZS6WEAEyZD2.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COnbZm-WoAAk13e.jpg
The One
06-05-2019, 12:37 PM
Finnish girl
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COnbY0WW8AAymAd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COnbZS6WEAEyZD2.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COnbZm-WoAAk13e.jpg
This thread is about the north west mate
Blondie
06-05-2019, 12:59 PM
Dude stop peddling your Siberian theories of being Cro-Magnons it's simlply not true, Cro-Magnons bred With the ANE, the ANE are not Cro-Magnon Europeans XD. You are reaching far.
Cro-magnoid traits came from neanderthals, when homo sapiens mixed with them.
Lorena Haliti
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA99auRVwAAgeYd.jpg
https://modelisto.com/photoshoot/lorena-haliti-model-198670.jpg
Sacrificed Ram
06-05-2019, 03:33 PM
http://oi63.tinypic.com/mw32ft.jpg
PaleoEuropean
06-05-2019, 05:57 PM
Cro-magnoid traits came from neanderthals, when homo sapiens mixed with them.
Cro-magnid traits are pre-Neanderthal. Neanderthals contributed some traits and compounded others, but Neanderthals were derpy looking with weak small chins. Neandrathals also hive wider orbital bones. People with true Neandrathal traits are people like Aboriginals and New Guineans. The strong features Cro-Magnons had was developed partially through evolution and partially through selective breeding because they were mammoth hunters and the females wanted to the strongest hunter (learned that in college).
The Abroginals got a double dose of Archiac dna from the Denisovan, Cro-Magnons were giants compared to the rest of the world, the Neandrathals were like stubby little slack jawed dwarfs xD.
https://i.imgur.com/9S5v7q8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/y2q27pa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/r5ouw8U.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KbS1dFz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/N6ACWG9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3ki4dnZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ce9g1sJ.jpg
PaleoEuropean
06-05-2019, 05:59 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Qgvjhfy.jpg
The One
06-05-2019, 06:09 PM
http://oi63.tinypic.com/mw32ft.jpg
lol nice joke
I think it would be more correct to call this thread "female examples of North-West European Upper Paleolithic type" or just "robust North-West European women". https://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/icons/icon6.png
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a8/42/4b/a8424bba927eadd6ed4ed84da6035fd3.jpg
Gallop
06-05-2019, 07:09 PM
I've always thought of an archaic type but I do not know what it should be.
Laura Sánchez
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Marie+Claire+Prix+De+La+Mode+2008+8N9el9Gcq0pl.jpg
https://www.mujerhoy.com/noticias/201901/28/media/cortadas/laura-sanchez-krdG-U70436141029jaC-644x483@MujerHoy.jpg
https://img.bekia.es/articulos/th/73000/73704-q1.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3369934035/ce15a2d2b75a53556a9bec3dab16b834_400x400.jpeg
http://www.ecestaticos.com/image/clipping/6645c886e8d2994540279127e2abab5c/laura-sanchez-por-las-calles-de-sevilla-gtres.jpg
http://www.egoagency.es/Imagenes/Laura_Sanchez_g.gif
PaleoEuropean
06-05-2019, 07:11 PM
I've always thought of an archaic type but I do not know what it should be.
Laura Sánchez
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Marie+Claire+Prix+De+La+Mode+2008+8N9el9Gcq0pl.jpg
https://www.mujerhoy.com/noticias/201901/28/media/cortadas/laura-sanchez-krdG-U70436141029jaC-644x483@MujerHoy.jpg
https://img.bekia.es/articulos/th/73000/73704-q1.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3369934035/ce15a2d2b75a53556a9bec3dab16b834_400x400.jpeg
One of the best examples imo, her jaw is circular but robust enough.
Gallop
06-05-2019, 07:29 PM
I also see an archaic essence that is quite marked.
Raquel Revuelta
https://sevilla.abc.es/estilo/bulevarsur/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/raquel-revuelta-rocioruz4-simof.jpg
https://s03.s3c.es/imag/_v0/770x420/8/b/3/raquel-revuelta-indonesia770.jpg
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBMZjdI.img?h=343&w=624&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=358&y=192
https://www.hola.com/imagenes/actualidad/20180809128334/raquel-revuelta-cuenta-primera-persona-terremoto-indonesia/0-591-571/raquel-revuelta-m.jpg
The One
06-05-2019, 07:48 PM
I've always thought of an archaic type but I do not know what it should be.
Laura Sánchez
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Marie+Claire+Prix+De+La+Mode+2008+8N9el9Gcq0pl.jpg
https://www.mujerhoy.com/noticias/201901/28/media/cortadas/laura-sanchez-krdG-U70436141029jaC-644x483@MujerHoy.jpg
https://img.bekia.es/articulos/th/73000/73704-q1.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3369934035/ce15a2d2b75a53556a9bec3dab16b834_400x400.jpeg
http://www.ecestaticos.com/image/clipping/6645c886e8d2994540279127e2abab5c/laura-sanchez-por-las-calles-de-sevilla-gtres.jpg
http://www.egoagency.es/Imagenes/Laura_Sanchez_g.gif
I’ve seen a Spanish woman with a similar look I forgot her name but I think this look is common among robust Spanish women anyway good example mate.
Edit: just realised the girl I was thinking of was French still Western Europen however.
Zroota
06-12-2019, 06:33 AM
Sonia Kruger:
https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/O7UdEBUWkAMWd3Ll9CwPhcl99qM/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2018/07/01/474/n/4981324/9cf4c1b35b38abb52ee299.15189852_GettyImages-988628766/i/Sonia-Kruger.jpg
Gallop
06-26-2019, 10:40 AM
Carmina Barrios
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNjZiYzlmNzQtMTZjZS00ZGU5LWI3M2UtMDNkZTU1ZDYyOT g3XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTA0MjU0Ng@@._V1_.jpg
https://fotografias-neox.atresmedia.com/clipping/cmsimages02/2018/07/04/8932C83E-E64C-4438-861D-3981A17F87D7/58.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8XXlEvWFfeWvCw2ingWnwV8KH6-YfdLaCDwBtzvBmjBmRCHsu
billErobreren
06-26-2019, 10:48 AM
Liv Corfixen
http://images.fandango.com/ImageRenderer/200/0/redesign/static/img/default_poster.png/0/images/masterrepository/performer%20images/p793559/livcorfixen.jpg
https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w500/67MfNKbfolk3aJ1Gs3VIi0GmZbH.jpg
PaleoEuropean
06-26-2019, 10:49 AM
Liv Corfixen
http://images.fandango.com/ImageRenderer/200/0/redesign/static/img/default_poster.png/0/images/masterrepository/performer%20images/p793559/livcorfixen.jpg
https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w500/67MfNKbfolk3aJ1Gs3VIi0GmZbH.jpg
Very good example
PaleoEuropean
06-26-2019, 10:50 AM
Jessica and Ashley Simpson
https://i.imgur.com/MzOPbhJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/b6EDRXY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Kmopu4q.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DNPDAt7.jpg
PaleoEuropean
06-26-2019, 10:51 AM
https://i.imgur.com/e2gJE8I.jpg
Carmina Barrios
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNjZiYzlmNzQtMTZjZS00ZGU5LWI3M2UtMDNkZTU1ZDYyOT g3XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTA0MjU0Ng@@._V1_.jpg
https://fotografias-neox.atresmedia.com/clipping/cmsimages02/2018/07/04/8932C83E-E64C-4438-861D-3981A17F87D7/58.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8XXlEvWFfeWvCw2ingWnwV8KH6-YfdLaCDwBtzvBmjBmRCHsu
She's close to original Cro-Magnon look.
https://s-t-o-l.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/444.jpg
PaleoEuropean
06-26-2019, 10:54 AM
https://i.imgur.com/fYbvOg2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fRhM2Ta.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iOCBU3D.jpg
gıulıoımpa
06-26-2019, 10:55 AM
Sigourney Weaver should be a good example shouldn't her?
https://rudighedini.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/60-sigourney-weaver.jpg?w=1400
PaleoEuropean
06-26-2019, 10:56 AM
She's close to original Cro-Magnon look.
https://s-t-o-l.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/444.jpg
Dude stop taking your facts from 80 year old reconstructions, she is Berberid not even Euro looking.
http://humanphenotypes.net/Berberid.html
PaleoEuropean
06-26-2019, 10:57 AM
Sigourney Weaver should be a good example shouldn't her?
https://rudighedini.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/60-sigourney-weaver.jpg?w=1400
Sigourney is robust af xD
Dude stop taking your facts from 80 year old reconstructions, she is Berberid not even Euro looking.
http://humanphenotypes.net/Berberid.html
Is he also Berberid?
https://img.championat.com/i/article/77/17/1462477717_b_oliver-kan-v-forme-karlsrue.jpg
PaleoEuropean
06-26-2019, 11:12 AM
Is he also Berberid?
https://img.championat.com/i/article/77/17/1462477717_b_oliver-kan-v-forme-karlsrue.jpg
Look how long his head is and the angle of his cheeks
PaleoEuropean
06-26-2019, 11:13 AM
Is he also Berberid?
https://img.championat.com/i/article/77/17/1462477717_b_oliver-kan-v-forme-karlsrue.jpg
First is Cro-Magnid second is Cro-Magnoid
https://i.imgur.com/xenI6WX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Yu8WkFw.jpg
Gallop
06-26-2019, 06:39 PM
Carmen Santacruz
http://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/viewmanagement.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Carmen-by-Valero-Rioja-2.jpg
https://i.theones2watch.com/wp-content/latest/gosee-bcn-carmensantacruz@view-javidardo2.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sqUvpnqvSno/SvB3kgMQcEI/AAAAAAAAAKY/8tlL5J6Cxng/s400/Picture+1.png
Gallop
06-26-2019, 06:45 PM
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4VZJBvdIKv8/W1KJUD7iLqI/AAAAAAAAEzY/S7U2yFaXAm05MZIvGJjubfNi4f79pK1pQCLcBGAs/s640/pelirroja-055d89-%25281440-x-1080%2529.jpg
Cordovan model
http://museoprivadodeartefotografico.blogspot.com/2018/07/fotografos-cordobeses-ramon-verdu.html
Carmen Santacruz
http://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/viewmanagement.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Carmen-by-Valero-Rioja-2.jpg
https://i.theones2watch.com/wp-content/latest/gosee-bcn-carmensantacruz@view-javidardo2.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sqUvpnqvSno/SvB3kgMQcEI/AAAAAAAAAKY/8tlL5J6Cxng/s400/Picture+1.png
Beautiful lady.
Gallop
06-26-2019, 07:02 PM
https://scontent-sjc3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/2f5c5988acbde2d01a814e821f643f94/5D96F9E4/t51.2885-19/s320x320/44588933_706586819711632_3374601528689033216_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.cdninstagram.com
https://66.media.tumblr.com/2a9c89ebe38a2feada9d0b42cb710b83/tumblr_om8pqmrBbA1w5bzojo2_400.png
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f3/a9/ac/f3a9ac16d8c35e51de7e1d8d391f7521.jpg
Yes
PaleoEuropean
06-26-2019, 07:30 PM
Carmen Santacruz
http://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/viewmanagement.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Carmen-by-Valero-Rioja-2.jpg
https://i.theones2watch.com/wp-content/latest/gosee-bcn-carmensantacruz@view-javidardo2.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_sqUvpnqvSno/SvB3kgMQcEI/AAAAAAAAAKY/8tlL5J6Cxng/s400/Picture+1.png
That chick is hella asian looking XD not even European looking
PaleoEuropean
06-26-2019, 07:32 PM
Please learn the differences
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?6510-Cromagnid-versus-Aurignacid
Gallop
06-26-2019, 10:51 PM
https://www.hola.com/imagenes/belleza/tendencias/20190509141763/feria-abril-sevilla-maquillaje-eyeliner-carmen-santacruz/0-677-547/carmen-santacruz-sevilla2-a.jpg
https://d1anz62hzt62y8.cloudfront.net/Images/6/A/F/CB96A-CD1D-041E-6AD1-E86AC0A98A52.jpg
https://iv1.lisimg.com/image/13938605/467full-carmen-santacruz.jpg
Other opinions?
Sacrificed Ram
03-12-2020, 01:07 AM
A cromagnoid look-like black african woman, also interesting how her nose is curiously narrow.
https://i.ibb.co/rQFYTVn/kenyanwomen.jpg
These features appear to be very common among nilotic blacks, but I don't know if it is a true link with cromagnons.
First is Cro-Magnid second is Cro-Magnoid
https://i.imgur.com/xenI6WX.jpg
This one is the Amud1, a neanderthal-human hybrid from Palestine, if i am not mistaken.
Kivan
03-12-2020, 02:15 AM
Zeynep Başkan - TR folk singer/musician
https://scontent-bos3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/s1080x1080/72449168_146512109936467_7606199999141478471_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-bos3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=107&_nc_ohc=YzQ1YFGescQAX-5v0Xv&oh=c5e412bcc2e15f64ebe9e4145f2c4e86&oe=5E94A8DA
https://scontent-bos3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/p1080x1080/69619472_387088515560127_2794059449735412421_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-bos3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=103&_nc_ohc=ZJnGv6OP_KgAX-WwrVW&oh=35e821276335538a8d8ad3e4f98f3708&oe=5E9BEA82
https://abload.de/img/vlcsnap-2020-03-11-23sjjkc.jpg
https://scontent-bos3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/49986759_306101706955646_6392009263344304088_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-bos3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=102&_nc_ohc=dwDp0KJ8ngUAX_LrJjY&oh=4b0952b9e30f0c47e3f0921bb82eab52&oe=5E9AABD5
Sacrificed Ram
03-12-2020, 03:41 AM
I'm seeing a lot of "cromagnon" females with sloped back forehead and no one is calling them as "negroid" look-like. Sloped forehead is the most non cromagnon feature.
Faklon
03-12-2020, 04:50 AM
Merkel and the average British chav are probably closer to the original CM type than most examples posted in the thread.
Two very atypical people from here,
https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/image/C5603AQEQ8bs7szNJ5w/profile-displayphoto-shrink_200_200/0?e=1589414400&v=beta&t=fRFf1blVjG7uwKL6Ycawg4x4OpgcH87iKqVJbTX7_aE
https://instabook.gr/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Papaligoura-lena-0.jpg
Even if you get other people with high bizygomatic, they would be darker and more dinaricized. Like the Sarakatsani women here:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ryw39FD78S8/XDowj1aHTCI/AAAAAAAAKcQ/K-HqHMw8blwX3LvzqIdawkuwlfWKSxN7wCLcBGAs/s1600/sarakatsani%2Bof%2Bpindus.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JeGLhf54ogg/XDou-TUTKjI/AAAAAAAAKbw/3WG_c9BLhvIL_flJZzHDBOFRVda_ZOVYACLcBGAs/s1600/sarakatsani%2Bof%2Bthe%2Bbalkans.jpg
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