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Anxiety
06-06-2019, 08:58 PM
I wonder how much Turkic (East Eurasian or Central Asian?) DNA I have? And how would u classify my ethnicity based on all of these? I have added multiple results including DNA Admixture studio.
My mother is from Central Anatolia. My father is too but his father is a Circassian and his mother has presumably Georgian roots as well. There is the "Ahiskaoglu" surname in her background which tells me that she is a descendant of the Ahiska Turkic tribe and she told me her father was from Georgia.

Eurogenes K13 Oracle
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 33.27
2 East_Med 27.46
3 West_Med 10.35
4 Baltic 9.2
5 North_Atlantic 7.09
6 Siberian 4.57
7 East_Asian 3.02
8 Red_Sea 2.52
9 South_Asian 1.98
10 Amerindian 0.53

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 6.33
2 Azeri 7.93
3 Kumyk 11.81
4 Kurdish 12.16
5 Armenian 13.2
6 Georgian_Jewish 13.54
7 Iranian 13.91
8 Turkmen 14.85
9 Assyrian 15.13
10 Balkar 15.34
11 Adygei 15.66
12 Kabardin 16.44
13 North_Ossetian 17.73
14 Ossetian 17.87
15 Georgian 18.19
16 Iranian_Jewish 18.23
17 Kurdish_Jewish 18.41
18 Lebanese_Muslim 18.66
19 Chechen 18.96
20 Lezgin 19.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.2% Armenian + 24.8% Tatar @ 3.16
2 78.6% Armenian + 21.4% Chuvash @ 3.49
3 61% Balkar + 39% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.81
4 59.3% Kabardin + 40.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.84
5 64.5% Kumyk + 35.5% Cyprian @ 3.93
6 69.5% Turkish + 30.5% Kumyk @ 4.02
7 80% Armenian + 20% Mari @ 4.1
8 77.1% Turkish + 22.9% Kabardin @ 4.22
9 80.3% Turkish + 19.7% Lezgin @ 4.27
10 80% Turkish + 20% Chechen @ 4.32
11 76.1% Turkish + 23.9% Balkar @ 4.32
12 79% Turkish + 21% North_Ossetian @ 4.37
13 76.9% Turkish + 23.1% Adygei @ 4.42
14 67.9% Kumyk + 32.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.49
15 82.8% Turkish + 17.2% Tabassaran @ 4.56
16 57.9% Balkar + 42.1% Cyprian @ 4.63
17 56.1% Kabardin + 43.9% Cyprian @ 4.63
18 69.3% Kumyk + 30.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.64
19 57.9% Assyrian + 42.1% Nogay @ 4.74
20 70.2% Kumyk + 29.8% Tunisian_Jewish

Eurogenes K15
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 31.01
2 East_Med 27.19
3 North_Sea 9.67
4 Eastern_Euro 7.01
5 West_Med 7
6 Siberian 4.37
7 Baltic 3.63
8 Red_Sea 2.63
9 South_Asian 2.44
10 Southeast_Asian 2.35
11 Atlantic 2.32
12 Amerindian 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 8.44
2 Azeri 9.37
3 Kurdish 12.31
4 Armenian 12.46
5 Georgian_Jewish 13.59
6 Iranian 13.74
7 Kumyk 14.41
8 Turkmen 14.89
9 Assyrian 14.93
10 Lebanese_Muslim 18.47
11 Iranian_Jewish 18.91
12 Kurdish_Jewish 19.23
13 Lezgin 19.25
14 Ashkenazi 19.94
15 Central_Greek 19.97
16 Syrian 19.97
17 Kabardin 20.04
18 Balkar 20.21
19 Adygei 20.35
20 Cyprian 20.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.3% Armenian + 24.7% Tatar @ 4.14
2 79.3% Armenian + 20.7% Chuvash @ 4.57
3 81.1% Armenian + 18.9% Mari @ 5.07
4 79.7% Armenian + 20.3% East_Finnish @ 5.27
5 80% Armenian + 20% Finnish @ 5.65
6 79.9% Armenian + 20.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.96
7 80% Armenian + 20% Erzya @ 6.01
8 64.4% Kumyk + 35.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.12
9 73.8% Armenian + 26.2% Afghan_Turkmen @ 6.17
10 66% Armenian + 34% Nogay @ 6.2
11 60.6% Assyrian + 39.4% Nogay @ 6.2
12 80.6% Armenian + 19.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 6.26
13 74.6% Georgian_Jewish + 25.4% Tatar @ 6.32
14 50.5% Cyprian + 49.5% Tabassaran @ 6.43
15 81% Armenian + 19% North_Swedish @ 6.44
16 83.6% Armenian + 16.4% Shors @ 6.47
17 81.6% Armenian + 18.4% Estonian @ 6.5
18 78.6% Turkish + 21.4% Tabassaran @ 6.51
19 64.6% Kumyk + 35.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.58
20 54.1% Tabassaran + 45.9% Lebanese_Christian @

Dodecad K12
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.98
2 Gedrosia 16.85
3 North_European 13.62
4 Atlantic_Med 12.18
5 Southwest_Asian 10
6 Siberian 4.08
7 East_Asian 2.41
8 Southeast_Asian 1.5
9 East_African 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks (Behar) 8.27
2 Turkish (Dodecad) 8.53
3 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 13.71
4 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 14.8
5 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 14.95
6 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.27
7 Iranian (Dodecad) 15.28
8 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.83
9 Iranians (Behar) 18.13
10 Lebanese (Behar) 18.17
11 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 18.36
12 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 18.82
13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.85
14 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 18.93
15 Armenian (Dodecad) 19.07
16 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 19.07
17 Assyrian (Dodecad) 19.48
18 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 20.03
19 Cypriots (Behar) 20.05
20 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 20.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.8% Turks (Behar) + 12.2% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 3.6
2 88.5% Turks (Behar) + 11.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.63
3 88.4% Turks (Behar) + 11.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.67
4 88.1% Turks (Behar) + 11.9% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 3.67
5 88.1% Turks (Behar) + 11.9% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 3.7
6 88% Turks (Behar) + 12% Irish (Dodecad) @ 3.74
7 86.9% Turks (Behar) + 13.1% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 3.84
8 87.3% Turks (Behar) + 12.7% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 3.84
9 87.7% Turks (Behar) + 12.3% English (Dodecad) @ 3.87
10 87.6% Turks (Behar) + 12.4% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.87
11 88% Turks (Behar) + 12% British (Dodecad) @ 3.88
12 87.6% Turks (Behar) + 12.4% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 3.92
13 87.9% Turks (Behar) + 12.1% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 3.94
14 88.1% Turks (Behar) + 11.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 3.94
15 86.6% Turks (Behar) + 13.4% German (Dodecad) @ 4.01
16 79% Turkish (Dodecad) + 21% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.22
17 87.1% Turks (Behar) + 12.9% French (Dodecad) @ 4.49
18 85.9% Turks (Behar) + 14.1% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.49
19 90.6% Turks (Behar) + 9.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.53
20 87.2% Turks (Behar) + 12.8% French (HGDP) @ 4.57

Dna Admix Studio Populations
Dodecad Eurasia 7 Populations
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/06/06/Dodecad-Eurasia-7-populations.png

Eurogenes K13 Populations
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/06/06/Eurogenes-K13-Population.png

Eurogenes K15 populations
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/06/06/Eurogenes-K15-Population.png

Lukasz K47 Populations
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/06/06/Lukasz-K47-population.png

DNA Admixture Studio results
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/06/06/Dodecad-12.png
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/06/06/Dodecad-Eurasia-7.png
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/06/06/Eurasia-K20.png
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/06/06/Eurogenes-K13.png[
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/06/06/Eurogenes-K15.png
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/06/06/Tolan-recent-ancestors.png
https://imgshare.io/images/2019/06/06/Turkic-K11.png

Marmara
06-06-2019, 09:02 PM
Around 25% Turkic i would say.

Kaspias
06-06-2019, 09:04 PM
Between 25 and 30.

Bornoz
06-06-2019, 09:05 PM
Turkish DNA Facebook grubuna gir de bi soruver ya. Gedmatchin direk verdiği oracle sonuçları çok isabetli olmuyor. Çok sayıda grubunun örnekleri eksik veri tabanlarında.

Bigsaul
06-06-2019, 09:06 PM
10-15% pure Oghuzes were 50-60 Mong. You're only 6-7%

It's time for you to consider convert back to Armenian :cool:

Anxiety
06-06-2019, 09:07 PM
Around 25% Turkic i would say.

Where do u see that? 25 sounds a bit much. Arent most Turks somewhere between 5% and 20%?

Bornoz
06-06-2019, 09:07 PM
It's time for you to consider convert back to Armenian :cool:

He is not even a bit close to Armenians you fool :lol:

Anxiety
06-06-2019, 09:07 PM
Turkish DNA Facebook grubuna gir de bi soruver ya. Gedmatchin direk verdiği oracle sonuçları çok isabetli olmuyor. Çok sayıda grubunun örnekleri eksik veri tabanlarında.

Girdim ama pek kimse ilgilenmedi. Biraz ölü bir grub.

Satem
06-06-2019, 09:07 PM
The only real Turk on TA

Bornoz
06-06-2019, 09:11 PM
Girdim ama pek kimse ilgilenmedi. Biraz ölü bir grub.

Yok be

Anxiety
06-06-2019, 09:11 PM
The only real Turk on TA

I actually assumed I would score less than most others

Karaton
06-06-2019, 09:21 PM
Where do u see that? 25 sounds a bit much. Arent most Turks somewhere between 5% and 20%?

That's the amount of East Eurasian admixture. It doesn't represent the overall Turkic admix.



Girdim ama pek kimse ilgilenmedi. Biraz ölü bir grub.

Yakınlık sonuçlarını atmadılar mı?

Leto
06-06-2019, 09:31 PM
You're like 8% East Eurasian but some of that may be from the Circassian side too. Northwest Caucasians can be as much as 10% mongoloid (Kabardins, North Ossetians, Balkars, etc.).

Fiko0
06-07-2019, 10:53 AM
Your most Turkic part comes from Circassian side. Can you pm me your gedmatch number? Im from Ahiska and would like to do a one to one.

Rgvgjhvv
06-07-2019, 03:17 PM
Not as Turkic as me but it's okay. It's very hard to live up to my Turan power

Anxiety
06-07-2019, 09:02 PM
Not as Turkic as me but it's okay. It's very hard to live up to my Turan power

Haha I can only aspire to be great like you~!

21993
06-07-2019, 09:18 PM
It depends on which population do you consider pure Turkic.

Anxiety
06-07-2019, 09:39 PM
It depends on which population do you consider pure Turkic.

Why does the specific population matter? I dont believe there is a pure Turkic group, all of them have mixed dna.

21993
06-07-2019, 09:53 PM
Why does the specific population matter? I dont believe there is a pure Turkic group, all of them have mixed dna.

So you mean early Turkic DNA. For you question, I think it is about 16% 17%.

Anxiety
06-07-2019, 09:55 PM
So you mean early Turkic DNA. For you question, I think it is about 16% 17%.

I just want to know how much Turkic (mongoloid) dna I have. I dont know how far they extend.. to the Oghuz tribes or further back to Central/East Asia or Siberia? They are all Turkic to me.

21993
06-07-2019, 10:00 PM
I just want to know how much Turkic (mongoloid) dna I have. I dont know how far they extend.. to the Oghuz tribes or further back to Central/East Asia or Siberia? They are all Turkic to me.

AFAIK, early Turkic people were not 100% Mongoloid but rather an intermediate between Mongoloids and Proto-Indo-Aryans. To know how Turkic you are, you nned to compare your results with DNA results from Altai.

Yaglakar
06-10-2019, 12:50 PM
AFAIK, early Turkic people were not 100% Mongoloid but rather an intermediate between Mongoloids and Proto-Indo-Aryans. To know how Turkic you are, you nned to compare your results with DNA results from Altai.

Altai was Indo-European area of settlement. Proto-Turks came from the east and assimilated them. If mean actual volk of Türks, they also came to Altai (deported to be precise) from elsewhere and probably constituted a minority elite later on.

21993
06-10-2019, 01:16 PM
Altai was Indo-European area of settlement. Proto-Turks came from the east and assimilated them. If mean actual volk of Türks, they also came to Altai (deported to be precise) from elsewhere and probably constituted a minority elite later on.

Aren't today's Altai the purest proto-Turkic?

Leto
06-10-2019, 02:00 PM
Aren't today's Altai the purest proto-Turkic?
There are several native groups in the Altai region. The Altaians (the Republic of Altai), the Khakas (the Republic of Khakassia) and the Shors (Kemerovo oblast). Also the Tuvans live right to the east of those republics but they're more like Mongols racially and culturally.