Classify 6 rugby players from Naples, southern Italy

[savvas]

https://i.imgur.com/Ty5KTrJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/rw070ym.png
https://i.imgur.com/fz31xFa.png
https://i.imgur.com/ziRu0CJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/KRvI80N.png
https://i.imgur.com/L8feLaf.jpg

[nafz]

2 & 3 look very Italian. 1 passes as Greek. 4 can pass as Slavic. 6 can pass as all around Balkanite.

[savvas]

2 & 3 look very Italian. 1 passes as Greek. 4 can pass as Slavic. 6 can pass as all around Balkanite.

5 looks very robust, kind of borrebby-bruenn-paleoatlantid-influenced. Can he pass in Northwestern Europe?

[nafz]

5 looks very robust, kind of borrebby-bruenn-paleoatlantid-influenced. Can he pass in Northwestern Europe?

He could pass as French IMO

[savvas]

He could pass as French IMO

What about the others?

[nafz]

What about the others?

2,3,4,5 all pass as French. 3 can also pass as Belgian or Dark Dutch. 4 as Central European, Austrian / Slovene.

[bimf]

2,3,4,5 all pass as French. 3 can also pass as Belgian or Dark Dutch. 4 as Central European, Austrian / Slovene.

4 can pass as british easily

[Bigsaul]

1. Dinaro med/Taurid pass in South Europe, Caucasus, Kurdistan
2. Norid/Pontid can pass in Balkans
3. Sort of Robust Dinarid looks Serbian, Romanian
4. North Pontid/'Italic' North Italy, Central Europe
5. Alpinized Gracile med with lazy eyes Pan South Euro look
6. Taurid-Alpinid SE Europe, Caucasus, Anatolia

[savvas]

1. Dinaro med/Taurid pass in South Europe, Caucasus, Kurdistan
2. Norid/Pontid can pass in Balkans
3. Sort of Robust Dinarid looks Serbian, Romanian
4. North Pontid/'Italic' North Italy, Central Europe
5. Alpinized Gracile med with lazy eyes Pan South Euro look
6. Taurid-Alpinid SE Europe, Caucasus, Anatolia

n°6 Taurid? A taurid with brown hair and a presumably reddish beard? C'mon...

[Bellbeaking]

4 looks a little eastern like Balkan or Austrian, he looks like a light featured Albanian I used to know. He would pass in NW Europe too.

5 wouldn't look too out of place on a Welsh or Irish rugby team.

The rest look Balkan and Italian

[Bigsaul]

n°6 Taurid? A taurid with brown hair and a presumably reddish beard? C'mon...

Reddish beard and brown hair exist among almost every Caucasoid ethnicity. I look at features, not hair color.
Compare him to this Georgian rubgy player who basically looks like a more robust version of him
https://i.imgur.com/I3AO3Ca.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

They look Greek.

[Newsboy]

1. Looks a bit exotic. Outside mainland Southern Europe he'd pass in Malta, Cyprus, and the Caucasus.

4 looks South Slavic but may pass in other Slavic countries. Also as Albanian.

The rest look Pan-South Euro. They can pass as Greek but they don't look especially Greek IMO.

[savvas]

1. Looks a bit exotic. Outside mainland Southern Europe he'd pass in Malta, Cyprus, and the Caucasus.

4 looks South Slavic but may pass in other Slavic countries. Also as Albanian.

The rest look Pan-South Euro. They can pass as Greek but they don't look especially Greek IMO.

Can they pass in Northwestern Europe?

[Newsboy]

Can they pass in Northwestern Europe?

Maybe 3, 4, and 5 can pass atypically. 3 and 5 as the most Mediterranean end of the spectrum. 4 would have 'eastern' vibes but 'eastern' looking NW Europeans are not unheard of. Daniel Craig is even more 'eastern' looking than number 4 for instance.

[savvas]

2 & 3 look very Italian. 1 passes as Greek. 4 can pass as Slavic. 6 can pass as all around Balkanite.


1. Dinaro med/Taurid pass in South Europe, Caucasus, Kurdistan
2. Norid/Pontid can pass in Balkans
3. Sort of Robust Dinarid looks Serbian, Romanian
4. North Pontid/'Italic' North Italy, Central Europe
5. Alpinized Gracile med with lazy eyes Pan South Euro look
6. Taurid-Alpinid SE Europe, Caucasus, Anatolia


4 looks a little eastern like Balkan or Austrian, he looks like a light featured Albanian I used to know. He would pass in NW Europe too.

5 wouldn't look too out of place on a Welsh or Irish rugby team.

The rest look Balkan and Italian


They look Greek.


1. Looks a bit exotic. Outside mainland Southern Europe he'd pass in Malta, Cyprus, and the Caucasus.

4 looks South Slavic but may pass in other Slavic countries. Also as Albanian.

The rest look Pan-South Euro. They can pass as Greek but they don't look especially Greek IMO.


Maybe 3, 4, and 5 can pass atypically. 3 and 5 as the most Mediterranean end of the spectrum. 4 would have 'eastern' vibes but 'eastern' looking NW Europeans are not unheard of. Daniel Craig is even more 'eastern' looking than number 4 for instance.

https://i.imgur.com/fDStHE3.png
https://i.imgur.com/73K2azj.png
https://i.imgur.com/OZWOr5i.png
https://i.imgur.com/YqBnjGT.png
https://i.imgur.com/YSBC9SA.png
https://i.imgur.com/UKBTz7e.png

[nafz]

https://i.imgur.com/fDStHE3.png
https://i.imgur.com/73K2azj.png
https://i.imgur.com/OZWOr5i.png
https://i.imgur.com/YqBnjGT.png
https://i.imgur.com/YSBC9SA.png
https://i.imgur.com/UKBTz7e.png

So they were Irish and not Italians? You got us man.

I would love to see the face of the people who said that some of them look Taurid and pass in Asia....

[Nurzat]

2 & 3 look very Italian. 1 passes as Greek. 4 can pass as Slavic. 6 can pass as all around Balkanite.

blond one looks Carpathid to me (Alpinized Norid), Balkan Slav but not West or East Slavs.

[jmls]

I noticed that light Southern Italians look very Northern Italian/Italic.

[kaltar]

https://i.imgur.com/fDStHE3.png
https://i.imgur.com/73K2azj.png
https://i.imgur.com/OZWOr5i.png
https://i.imgur.com/YqBnjGT.png
https://i.imgur.com/YSBC9SA.png
https://i.imgur.com/UKBTz7e.png


LOL epic thread! So they are Irish, and not south Italians from Naples.

You have shown how the entire taxonomy section is a scam, and users who pretend to be expert are actually scammers.

Greek, Italian, Balkanic, West Asian, carpathid, taurid, exotic.... LOL, they are just Irish.

[Hulu]

1. Dinaro med/Taurid pass in South Europe, Caucasus, Kurdistan
2. Norid/Pontid can pass in Balkans
3. Sort of Robust Dinarid looks Serbian, Romanian
4. North Pontid/'Italic' North Italy, Central Europe
5. Alpinized Gracile med with lazy eyes Pan South Euro look
6. Taurid-Alpinid SE Europe, Caucasus, Anatolia

:lol: best post on this thread.

[Grace O'Malley]

Anthropology is a load of twaddle. People get influenced if they know where the subjects come from. Good idea though. :thumb001:

[Ayetooey]

1: Dinarid-Med
2: Pontid
3: Dinarid-Cm
4: Norid. This guy looks Shiptar.
5: Some sort of Borreby. Looks like a dark NW Euro.
6: Taurid. Looks Caucasian, like a Georgian.

[Unchained]

There isn't really a 'dark British' look. A bunch of different woggy phenotypes receive that label just because the person is of British/Irish ethnicity. While in reality it's mostly just people with a 'mystery meat' look that would pass much better somewhere else and this thread is a pretty solid example of that.

[renaissance12]

LOL epic thread! So they are Irish, and not south Italians from Naples.

You have shown how the entire taxonomy section is a scam, and users who pretend to be expert are actually scammers.

Greek, Italian, Balkanic, West Asian, carpathid, taurid, exotic.... LOL, they are just Irish.


It is not exactly a scam.. what is stupid is everyone ( like Septentrion ? ) who insists to say that 50-40 % of english/irish people are blonde. and to prove their stupidity they post this fake map.



http://jorian.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/blond-haired-in-europe-map.jpg




Even in Sweden blonde people are less than 50% of the Whole popolation..

It is pointless to tell them that:

Beatles : John Paul George Ringo... neither blonde nor light brown
Rolling stones : Mick J. Keith Bill Charlie Ron... neither blonde nor light brown
Pink Floyd: David Roger Richard Nick neither blonde nor light brown
Led Zeppelin : Jimmy John Paul John Bonhan neither blonde nor light brown
Robert : dark Blonde


Typical english..


http://networkonair.com/features/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/topsecretlifeofedgarbriggs01.jpg

[Ayetooey]

It is not exactly a scam.. what is stupid is everyone ( like Septentrion ? ) who insist to say that 50-40 % of english/irish people are blonde. and to prove their stupidity they post this fake map.


http://jorian.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/blond-haired-in-europe-map.jpg


Even in Sweden blonde people are less than 50% of the Whole popolation..




Typical english..


http://networkonair.com/features/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/topsecretlifeofedgarbriggs01.jpg

Larper Septentrion would cry if he saw this thread. :lol:

[renaissance12]

Larper Septentrion would cry if he saw this thread. :lol:


From quora: Is a typical English person blonde or not?




David Griggs

Answered Nov 22, 2017 · Author has 484 answers and 796k answer views




There is no typical English person, but I’d say that only around 9 or 10% of adult white people have blond hair, without bleaching or dyeing it..




Gill Bullen, Traceably English back to my 11th century immigrant ancestors

Answered Nov 8, 2017 · Author has 7.8k answers and 17.6m answer views


No. In most parts of the UK, blondes are very much in the minority.

[Grace O'Malley]

All these men would plot far away from Southern Europe proving that anthropology is pseudo-science. So what is their phenotype now that people know they are Irish?

[Latinus]

All these men would plot far away from Southern Europe proving that anthropology is pseudo-science. So what is their phenotype now that people know they are Irish?

This is what I call a nice trolling, lol.

[Creoda]

All these men would plot far away from Southern Europe proving that anthropology is pseudo-science. So what is their phenotype now that people know they are Irish?
Anthropology isn't pseudo-science, just the garbage that takes place on this forum; even calling it pseudo-science is being generous, it's just a meme. People guessing made up labels.

[XenophobicPrussian]

How is taxonomy a scam because of this? OP cherrypicked 6 southern European looking Irish people, no one claims phenotypes don't overlap between countries, they just peak in places. Most of the classifications were correct, they don't look like average Irish.

Daniel Craig being English doesn't mean he isn't or can't be a Baltid, which was probably an EHG/Baltic HG phenotype, of which admixture all Europeans do have.

[Creoda]

How is taxonomy a scam because of this? OP cherrypicked 6 southern European looking Irish people, no one claims phenotypes don't overlap between countries, they just peak in places. Most of the classifications were correct, they don't look like average Irish.

Daniel Craig being English doesn't mean he isn't or can't be a Baltid, which was probably an EHG/Baltic HG phenotype, of which admixture all Europeans do have.
I would rather just say Daniel Craig is Baltic looking, not a 'Baltid'. His race/taxon is NW European even if he doesn't quite look it. These are racially NW Europeans who atypically look Southern or whatever label you want to attach.

[XenophobicPrussian]

I would rather just say Daniel Craig is Baltic looking, not a 'Baltid'. His race/taxon is NW European even if he doesn't quite look it. These are racially NW Europeans who atypically look Southern or whatever label you want to attach.
Well yes, they're racially NW European, but their physical phenotype isn't. Physical phenotype will mostly correlate with race/ancestry but is based a lot on chance, ala those denying the existance of race articles all the press wrote when the 1 black and 1 white twins were born in the UK or US. If you meant people who equate phenotype with race in every case are retarded, yes, I agree.

https://www.bjpenn.com/wp-content/uploads/Antonina-Shevchenko-is-right-where-she-belongs-in-the-UFC-with-her-sister_662558_OpenGraphImage-Cropped-696x399.jpg

Two Ukrainian sisters, two completely different phenotypes.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/photos/sami-kapanen-2001-979.jpg

https://im.mtv.fi/image/800050/landscape16_9/1024/576/a8769337fc97753bfb20d382a3e8353f/Cq/1697187.jpg

Finnish dude and his South Asian looking brother. Despite looking like that, he'd still cluster with Finns and probably is lactose tolerant/etc.

[kleenex]

Not sure about these images but would guess Italian from various regions.

[Dick]

I guess Daniel Craig is closer to an original Anglo-Saxon(they were probably very Baltic influenced since Angeln is a peninsula on the coast of the Baltic sea) rather than an indigenous Briton(more like a bell beaker type?)


https://i.imgur.com/gT7qm07.jpg


https://www.archaeology.org/images/News/1506/Scotland-Anglo-Saxon.jpg

https://i2.wp.com/faroutmagazine.co.uk/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Richard-Ashcroft-addresses-claims-he-dropped-drugs-on-live-TV-.jpg?w=745&ssl=1

[Creoda]

I guess Daniel Craig is closer to an original Anglo-Saxon(they were probably very Baltic influenced since Angeln is a peninsula on the coast of the Baltic sea) rather than an indigenous Briton(more like a bell beaker type?)

This is probably true.

[Dick]

This is probably true.

could be. Let's say this Bond is more of an Anglo-Norman type. I think the Norman influence in Britain is underrated.



https://www.kbc.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Roger-Moore-1.jpg

[Dick]

the Scottish House of Gordon is of Norman descent, the seed of Adam de Gordon an anlgo-Norman for example.

[Daco Celtic]

could be. Let's say this Bond is more of an Anglo-Norman type. I think the Norman influence in Britain is underrated.



https://www.kbc.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Roger-Moore-1.jpg

Rodger Moore was the best James Bond. Underrated.

[Creoda]

could be. Let's say this Bond is more of an Anglo-Norman type. I think the Norman influence in Britain is underrated.



https://www.kbc.co.ke/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Roger-Moore-1.jpg
The genetic impact of the Norman conquest was not significant but the impact of Northern French/Gaulish migration on Southern Britain over the millennia no doubt has been.

[renaissance12]

All these men would plot far away from Southern Europe proving that anthropology is pseudo-science. So what is their phenotype now that people know they are Irish?


I guess that Septentrion would say:.... They were 90% blonde when they were teenagers...

[Zroota]

Anthropology is a load of twaddle. People get influenced if they know where the subjects come from. Good idea though. :thumb001:
Although I'm not totally against the idea of phenotypes, I still have to agree with you.

If the first guy were Lebanese, he would be classified as Orientalid/Syrid. But because he "was" from Italy, he's a Dinaro-Med. And now, after the big reveal, he is actually a 'dark' Irishman, so that means he's some sort of an Atlantid (since that's the go-to phenotype for darker northern Europeans). :p

This thread is classic. Glad the OP trolled us and showed how biased people are in here (not that taxonomy is wrong, but people don't know how to utilise it).

[Zroota]

Well yes, they're racially NW European, but their physical phenotype isn't. Physical phenotype will mostly correlate with race/ancestry but is based a lot on chance, ala those denying the existance of race articles all the press wrote when the 1 black and 1 white twins were born in the UK or US. If you meant people who equate phenotype with race in every case are retarded, yes, I agree.

https://www.bjpenn.com/wp-content/uploads/Antonina-Shevchenko-is-right-where-she-belongs-in-the-UFC-with-her-sister_662558_OpenGraphImage-Cropped-696x399.jpg

Two Ukrainian sisters, two completely different phenotypes.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/photos/sami-kapanen-2001-979.jpg

https://im.mtv.fi/image/800050/landscape16_9/1024/576/a8769337fc97753bfb20d382a3e8353f/Cq/1697187.jpg

Finnish dude and his South Asian looking brother. Despite looking like that, he'd still cluster with Finns and probably is lactose tolerant/etc.
Agreed. And good point.

What about the Norwegian comedy duo Ylvis? They are brothers, but look phenotypically distinct:

https://static.spin.com/files/131014-ylvis-lead-640x426.jpg
http://nebula.wsimg.com/190454f44aac08811516acf675683f33?AccessKeyId=8F0F9 D54A71F4C3CB4A7&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

Like Paul Walker and Adam Sandler.

[jmls]

Top and bottom guys look quite Mediterranoid/woggish, though...
Not in a “Dark British Islander” kinda way but rather “Exotic South European” kinda way. Are you sure they’re fully Irish?

[kaltar]

It is not exactly a scam.. what is stupid is everyone ( like Septentrion ? ) who insists to say that 50-40 % of english/irish people are blonde. and to prove their stupidity they post this fake map.



http://jorian.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/blond-haired-in-europe-map.jpg




Even in Sweden blonde people are less than 50% of the Whole popolation..

It is pointless to tell them that:

Beatles : John Paul George Ringo... neither blonde nor light brown
Rolling stones : Mick J. Keith Bill Charlie Ron... neither blonde nor light brown
Pink Floyd: David Roger Richard Nick neither blonde nor light brown
Led Zeppelin : Jimmy John Paul John Bonhan neither blonde nor light brown
Robert : dark Blonde


Typical english..


http://networkonair.com/features/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/topsecretlifeofedgarbriggs01.jpg


Septentrion (just another troll) has nothing to do with this thread, you're missing the main point of this thread.

[Grace O'Malley]

Just looking at that team here's another player Conor Kenny. Where would people think he came from?

https://cdn-04.independent.ie/sport/rugby/connacht-rugby/article34529811.ece/c7bcc/AUTOCROP/w620/2016-03-11_spo_17546281_I1.JPG
https://cdn-static.connachtrugby.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/22194329/Conor-Kenny.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Just looking at that team here's another player Conor Kenny. Where would people think he came from?

https://cdn-04.independent.ie/sport/rugby/connacht-rugby/article34529811.ece/c7bcc/AUTOCROP/w620/2016-03-11_spo_17546281_I1.JPG
https://cdn-static.connachtrugby.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/22194329/Conor-Kenny.jpg

Very very distinctly Irish.

[Latinus]

Just looking at that team here's another player Conor Kenny. Where would people think he came from?

https://cdn-04.independent.ie/sport/rugby/connacht-rugby/article34529811.ece/c7bcc/AUTOCROP/w620/2016-03-11_spo_17546281_I1.JPG
https://cdn-static.connachtrugby.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/22194329/Conor-Kenny.jpgIs his eye shape a common feature among the Irish? I have heard some people saying it is.

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