Classify Northern Pakistani woman

[The One]

Classify this woman from northern Pakistan in the hunza valley (Gilgit-Baltistan)

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[Truth Preacher]

Alpine/CM+ Indo Nordic

[lameduck]

Indo Nordic

[Thambi]

alpine + CM

[Truth Preacher]

Indo Nordic

Have u ever seen an Indo Nordic in Punjab ?

[Gangrel]

'Indo-Nordic' :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

She's fucking white

[Zeus]

indo nordic? l0l.

alpine-CM seems more right, hard to tell from the one pic though. She obviously looks just European

[Nurzat]

'Indo-Nordic' :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

She's fucking white

Whiter than most Euros in Europe actually. she's Nordish. and her White genes come from The Aryans. fact.

[The One]

indo nordic? l0l.

alpine-CM seems more right, hard to tell from the one pic though. She obviously looks just European


I wonder if her Dna test from 23andme would say 100% south Asian I’d love to see northern Pakistanis like the kalash Dna tested.


Edit: my grandfather is from northwestern Pakistan their family has light eyes as well he came up 99.7% south Asian just some info.

[Truth Preacher]

I wonder if her Dna test from 23andme would say 100% south Asian I’d love to see northern Pakistanis like the kalash Dna tested.


Edit: my grandfather is from northwestern Pakistan their family has light eyes as well he came up 99.7% south Asian just some info.

What ethnic group does he belong to ?

[The One]

What ethnic group does he belong to ?



He’s from the awan tribe in North West Pakistan in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa

[Truth Preacher]

He’s from the awan tribe in North West Pakistan in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa

Interesting I always thought Awans were a Punjabi Muslim tribe from the Potohar plain.

[turbosat]

Classify this woman from northern Pakistan in the hunza valley (Gilgit-Baltistan)

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She was posted on another forum site some years ago. If I remember correctly she belongs to Wakhi people who migrated from Tajikistan to Hunza some time ago maybe 100+ years ago.

[lameduck]

Have u ever seen an Indo Nordic in Punjab ?

yeah among rural Punjabis from Murree Hills

[lameduck]

She was posted on another forum site some years ago. If I remember correctly she belongs to Wakhi people who migrated from Tajikistan to Hunza some time ago maybe 100+ years ago.

No that was someone else that was topper of Karakorum university and you like your uncle jalu threw a hissy fit seeing her and created up stories. Gilgit Baltistan is emerging as hub of region and its not rare from people in remote region of Tajikistan and Xinjiang to migrate there.

[Truth Preacher]

yeah among rural Punjabis from Murree Hills

Any in central or south Punjab ? Just curious never seen one irl although have seen some light eyed/hair/beard types.

[lameduck]

Any in central or south Punjab ? Just curious never seen one irl although have seen some light eyed/hair/beard types.

according to anthropologists darker types of Indo Nordic can occur in Punjab , but generally lighter Punjabis I see everyday look like Kashmiri or in some cases Pashtuns.

[The One]

Interesting I always thought Awans were a Punjabi Muslim tribe Potohar.



Well he does look distinctively Northern Pakistani doesn’t look Punjabi at all, my grandma on the other hand is Punjabi and looks decently Punjabi



Edit: also some more info my grandfathers haplogroup was R-Z93 on 23andme

[lameduck]

Interesting I always thought Awans were a Punjabi Muslim tribe from the Potohar plain.

Hindko awans from Abbotabad are mixed with Hindko Pashtuns and other Dardics from North Pakistan , this video has both Hindko Pashtuns and indic Hindkos(Awan/Abbasis)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hf78QCfS_Q

[turbosat]

No that was someone else that was topper of Karakorum university and you like your uncle jalu threw a hissy fit seeing her and created up stories. Gilgit Baltistan is emerging as hub of region and its not rare from people in remote region of Tajikistan and Xinjiang to migrate there.

She was also posted I seem to remember. As usual you pissed in your pants crying like a baby that she was a typical Pakistani when your grandfather Jalu said she was not Pakistani. The migrants might have to go back if Modi decides to take back Gilgit Baltistan since it is actually a part of Kashmir.

[lameduck]

She was also posted I seem to remember. As usual you pissed in your pants crying like a baby that she was a typical Pakistani when your grandfather Jalu said she was not Pakistani. The migrants might have to go back if Modi decides to take back Gilgit Baltistan since it is actually a part of Kashmir.
Lol India cant to Nothing , there is more chance of Sikhism merging back with Hinduism than any part of Pakistan merging with India lol

[turbosat]

Interesting I always thought Awans were a Punjabi Muslim tribe from the Potohar plain.

Yes that's what they are, and I read on a website they registered themselves as Jatt in some places in old British census.

[Truth Preacher]

Well he does look distinctively Northern Pakistani doesn’t look Punjabi at all, my grandma on the other hand is Punjabi and looks decently Punjabi



Edit: also some more info my grandfathers haplogroup was R-Z93 on 23andme

No all good lameduck explained as to why this is the case.

[lameduck]

Yes that's what they are, and I read on a website they registered themselves as Jatt in some places in old British census.

agricultural tribes of Punjab like jatts, arains , awans aren't that different from each other anyways.

[Zeus]

do we have any more pics of this lady or do we know anything about her? is she wakhi or not? they're an iranic group who seem to have a high occurrence of a classical "aryan" look

[lameduck]

do we have any more pics of this lady or do we know anything about her? is she wakhi or not? they're an iranic group who seem to have a high occurrence of a classical "aryan" look

generally all groups in Gilgit Baltistan resemble each other , though People in Gilgit city are darker and those living in isolated mountains are bit lighter , but there is no terrible difference , here are some wakhis mainly from Pakistan and Afghanistan

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?263826-Wakhi-People-of-Tajikistan-Pakistan-Afghanistan-and-China

[turbosat]

Interesting I always thought Awans were a Punjabi Muslim tribe from the Potohar plain.


Yes that's what they are, and I read on a website they registered themselves as Jatt in some places in old British census.

To clarify further for you, Awans are definitely Punjabis even if some of them live in "North West Pakistan" in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa or KPK or whatever that area is now called.During British times they lived in North Punjab in largest numbers, a second cluster lived in North West Frontier Province (NWFP now called KPK) and there was a smaller cluster in East Punjab India.
Read here : https://newpakhistorian.wordpress.com/tag/awan-caste/

Some of the areas of NWFP were originally not a part of Afghan territory, but over some centuries in the past many Pashtuns/Afghans had settled there among the locals who were called "Hindkis" (ie "Indians") by Afghans/Pashtuns. One of these was Hazara area where many Awans lived. Originally Hazara was not part of NWFP, during British times, but they made it part of NWFP because they wanted a summer capital for NWFP, and they chose new town of Abbotabad in Hazara for that purpose and made it part of NWFP in 1901.

Awans speak Hindko (Hindki), Potohari, Seraiki which are quite similar to main Punjabi language and just dialects of Punjabi it could be said. Hindko means "language of India" or "the Indian language" incidentally.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindko
and see https://www.thenational.ae/world/pakistan-s-regional-languages-face-extinction-1.40949
"Peshawar // About 100 women gathered in a community centre in Peshawar, the heart of Pakistan’s fabled north-west, are conversing in a dialect incomprehensible to the Pashtun ethnic group that dominates the region and whose language is Pashto. Instead they are exchanging anecdotes and ideas in their native Hindko – literally, “the language of India” – at a conference organised to promote the increasingly marginalised language."

I think Seraiki is just a recent name for that language/dialect. Originally Seraiki was called "Jatki" (language of Jatts).

What all this means that Awans are Punjabis. Awans also look like normal Punjabis unless they are mixed with Pashtuns/Afghans (which happens in some places in KPK), but mostly they look like Punjabis.

I think this guy with waistcoat is "chief of Awans" . You can see he looks Punjabi except he might have a Pashtun or Baloch mother or grand-mother which would change his looks obviously.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CREcDB2WcAASPDJ.jpg



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CREbwguXAAAroY8.jpg

See this earlier Awan chief.

https://live.staticflickr.com/5751/23698691159_f57eb89262_b.jpg


Here are some other Awans.
https://6ada39ab3e4e4dfd9962-0915b3b9e650afef6a84b370287eeb00.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.c om/161114NH-Omer-Awan%20(1).jpg

https://www.blackhat.com/images/portraits/asif-awan.png

[Melonman]

I wonder if her Dna test from 23andme would say 100% south Asian I’d love to see northern Pakistanis like the kalash Dna tested.


Edit: my grandfather is from northwestern Pakistan their family has light eyes as well he came up 99.7% south Asian just some info.

Pretty interesting haplogroup you got. Are we talking about paternal grandfather?

[Roy]

Irano-Nordoid

[Xacal]

North Pontid + Alpine

[Oliver109]

She don't look that different to the average Brit but that's not surprising as you are nearly in the Pamirs where whites crop up a lot, agree with above classifications.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Pretty, does look very Western European, in that photo.