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Maguzanci
06-12-2019, 01:37 PM
Younger pics:

https://i.imgur.com/826crG8.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uYfjJ90.jpg

Now:

https://i.imgur.com/tt9kPeb.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/m03daWu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kfzCkXf.jpg

Thambi
06-12-2019, 01:50 PM
He looks thai to me.

Palaungid + Tibetid

I could see him passing in in nepal among groups like tamangs and as sherpa/tibetan as well. Nose is slightly wide though for the groups but nothing atypical. Yeah he could pass as quarter indian or something, not half imo.

Maguzanci
06-12-2019, 01:54 PM
He looks thai to me.

Palaungid + Tibetid

I could see him passing in in nepal among groups like tamangs and as sherpa/tibetan as well. Nose is slightly wide though for the groups but nothing atypical. Yeah he could pass as quarter indian or something, not half imo.

Wow how did you guess that? Yeah you right. But I thought the Sherpa/Tibetan look much more Mongoloid than him?

Thanks. Hmm interesting. From my observation here in Thailand, his look is pretty atypical for most Siamese/Thai but he can still sort of blend in among the local diversity.

He looks more Caucasoid-admixed than most Siamese that I saw.

Thambi
06-12-2019, 02:20 PM
Wow how did you guess that? Yeah you right. But I thought the Sherpa/Tibetan look much more Mongoloid than him?

Thanks. Hmm interesting. From my observation here in Thailand, his look is pretty atypical for most Thais but he can still sort of blend in among the local diversity.

He looks more Caucasoid-influenced than most Siamese that I saw.

Actually he looks like what i picture burmese people to look like, especially in the younger pics. I guessed thai due to the nose shape. Burmese i think have sharper noses than thais so thats why but im not completely sure. You are our south east asian rep bro. You should educate us on average se asian phenos. There are too many classification threads on east asian and south asians but no enough on se asians.

This guy looks quite mongoloid though imo. Ive seen some dolmas, sherpa old men that look like him and the younger himself looks very typical among Tamangs. Actually i dont want to act like an expert here. Ill leave it to npkto regarding the nepalis. He would know better lol.

Maguzanci
06-12-2019, 02:40 PM
Actually he looks like what i picture burmese people to look like, especially in the younger pics. I guessed thai due to the nose shape. Burmese i think have sharper noses than thais so thats why but im not completely sure. You are our south east asian rep bro. You should educate us on average se asian phenos. There are too many classification threads on east asian and south asians but no enough on se asians.

This guy looks quite mongoloid though imo. Ive seen some dolmas, sherpa old men that look like him and the younger himself looks very typical among Tamangs. Actually i dont want to act like an expert here. Ill leave it to npkto regarding the nepalis. He would know better lol.

I think the OP would probably be genetically similar to those four most West Eurasian-shifted Thai individuals who are around 20% South Asian or 10% West Eurasian and 10% AASI or even more Western Eurasian shifted than them genetically:

I won't be that surprise if the OP would score something similar to this on Global 25 model lol: Around 12% West Eurasian and 8% AASI ancestry. Or maybe his result would be a bit more Western Eurasian-shifted than this one lmao. I think he would have more South Asian admix than most Burmese, Tripuri and Jamatia. He probably would cluster with some Khasis (unfortunately there is no Khasi on Global 25 model).

"sample": "Test2:Thai_-_DCH008",
"fit": 2.217,
"Dai": 27.5,
"Htin_Mal": 21.67,
"Han": 10.83,
"LAO_LN_BA": 10.83,
"Simulated_AASI_Averaged": 8.33,
"Igorot": 7.5,
"TJK_Sarazm_Eneolithic": 7.5,
"Yamnaya_BGR": 4.17,
"Malaysia_LN": 1.67,

Or basically around 20% South Asian (

Thambi
06-12-2019, 02:58 PM
I think the OP would probably be genetically similar to those four most West Eurasian-shifted Thai individuals who are around 20% South Asian or 10% West Eurasian and 10% AASI or even more Western Eurasian shifted than them genetically:

I won't be that surprise if the OP would score something similar to this on Global 25 model lol: Around 12% West Eurasian and 8% AASI ancestry. Or maybe his result would be a bit more Western Eurasian-shifted than this one lmao.

"sample": "Test2:Thai_-_DCH008",
"fit": 2.217,
"Dai": 27.5,
"Htin_Mal": 21.67,
"Han": 10.83,
"LAO_LN_BA": 10.83,
"Simulated_AASI_Averaged": 8.33,
"Igorot": 7.5,
"TJK_Sarazm_Eneolithic": 7.5,
"Yamnaya_BGR": 4.17,
"Malaysia_LN": 1.67,

Or basically around 20% South Asian (North Kannadi+Gujarati+Ror)

"sample": "Test2:Thai_-_DCH008",
"fit": 2.1514,
"Dai": 23.33,
"Htin_Mal": 23.33,
"Han": 11.67,
"LAO_LN_BA": 10,
"Igorot": 8.33,
"North_Kannadi": 8.33,
"Gujarati": 5.83,
"Ror": 5.83,
"Malaysia_LN": 3.33,

Anyway to answer your reply, that is interesting. Most Burmese that I saw looks more East Asian/Chinese-ish than him. But never been to Burma before and my interactions with them see to be limited to housemaids and laborers (most Burmese in Thailand work in labor jobs), so I am not really sure either.

Hehe Im probably the only of the very few SE Asian users here (besides Shazou, Selurong who got banned, IronMan and DaiViet ofc).
Well I can give you insights on SE Asian phenos but am not the best expert myself (I been only to Indonesia, Singapore in SE Asia lol and my experience with Malays, Cambodians, Laotians, etc are pretty limited). Sure I can make more thread on SE Asians.

How much South Asian admix do Tamangs have?

Also can OP pass as Assamese or Khasi?

yeah he might be similar to that south asian level found in that thai sample. Yeah i think he could fit among assamese and khasis pretty well. you're right i think he could sort of pass as half south asian. I need to see more burmese and thais though. This guy is the image i have of burmese and to an extent thais lol and im not sure how representative google images are.

here's tamang results. They come out as 80% japanese and 20% south indian like in the oracles.

Lama (tamang) (WX4535947)
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Asian 61.95
2 S-Indian 14.26
3 Siberian 10.23
4 SE-Asian 6.83
5 Baloch 2.98
6 American 1.79
7 Papuan 1.04
8 E-African 0.64
9 Beringian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 tu (hgdp) 14.26
2 naxi (hgdp) 16.15
3 xibo (hgdp) 16.67
4 yi (hgdp) 17.28
5 nepalese-b (xing) 17.48
6 japanese (hgdp) 17.63
7 mongola (hgdp) 17.88
8 tibet (simonson) 18.4
9 han-nchina (hgdp) 20.75
10 nysha (reich) 21.39
11 naga (metspalu) 21.84
12 chinese-beijing (1000genomes) 22.86
13 chinese-beijing (hapmap) 22.97
14 aonaga (reich) 23.21
15 hezhen (hgdp) 24.41
16 daur (hgdp) 25.43
17 garo (chaubey) 25.67
18 tujia (hgdp) 27.55
19 burmanese (chaubey) 27.74
20 chinese-american (hapmap) 28.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.2% tibet (simonson) + 28.8% khasi (chaubey) @ 3.22
2 50.2% nepalese-b (xing) + 49.8% japanese (hgdp) @ 3.22
3 82.3% japanese (hgdp) + 17.7% tn-dalit (xing) @ 3.34
4 85% tu (hgdp) + 15% nihali (metspalu) @ 3.39
5 82.4% japanese (hgdp) + 17.6% mala (reich) @ 3.42
6 82% japanese (hgdp) + 18% north-kannadi (chaubey) @ 3.46
7 82% japanese (hgdp) + 18% kurumba (reich) @ 3.52
8 82% japanese (hgdp) + 18% hakkipikki (metspalu) @ 3.54
9 85.4% tu (hgdp) + 14.6% mala (reich) @ 3.54
10 85.3% tu (hgdp) + 14.7% ap-mala (xing) @ 3.59
11 82.3% japanese (hgdp) + 17.7% ap-mala (xing) @ 3.6
12 86% tu (hgdp) + 14% paniya (chaubey) @ 3.61
13 81.8% japanese (hgdp) + 18.2% tamil-vishwakarma (harappa) @ 3.62
14 81.9% japanese (hgdp) + 18.1% ap-madiga (xing) @ 3.63
15 82.1% japanese (hgdp) + 17.9% madiga (reich) @ 3.66
16 85.4% tu (hgdp) + 14.6% tn-dalit (xing) @ 3.67
17 85.1% tu (hgdp) + 14.9% kurumba (reich) @ 3.7
18 81.9% japanese (hgdp) + 18.1% bhil (reich) @ 3.76
19 81.8% japanese (hgdp) + 18.2% chamar (metspalu) @ 3.78
20 81.6% japanese (hgdp) + 18.4% chenchu (reich) @ 3.81


Yangchen/Sherpa (A535293) (all the 10% south indian seems to be ASI related rather than actual mix due to the lack of west eurasian)
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Asian 69.18
2 Siberian 11.87
3 S-Indian 9.87
4 SE-Asian 3.42
5 American 1.62
6 Papuan 1.5
7 Baloch 0.8
8 Caucasian 0.57
9 NE-Euro 0.57
10 Beringian 0.43
11 SW-Asian 0.1
12 San 0.04
13 E-African 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 tu (hgdp) 8.32
2 tibet (simonson) 9.7
3 japanese (hgdp) 12.19
4 xibo (hgdp) 12.85
5 nysha (reich) 13.32
6 naxi (hgdp) 13.41
7 naga (metspalu) 14.09
8 yi (hgdp) 15.02
9 aonaga (reich) 15.4
10 han-nchina (hgdp) 15.72
11 mongola (hgdp) 15.89
12 chinese-beijing (1000genomes) 20.05
13 chinese-beijing (hapmap) 20.21
14 hezhen (hgdp) 22.53
15 daur (hgdp) 23.58
16 nepalese-b (xing) 24.61
17 japanese (xing) 27.59
18 tujia (hgdp) 28.5
19 chinese-american (hapmap) 29.04
20 japanese (1000genomes) 31.49

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.9% tibet (simonson) + 15.1% khasi (chaubey) @ 2.07
2 87.9% tibet (simonson) + 12.1% great-andamanese (reich) @ 2.59
3 90.2% tibet (simonson) + 9.8% juang (chaubey) @ 2.66
4 90.2% tibet (simonson) + 9.8% bonda (chaubey) @ 2.67
5 88.3% tibet (simonson) + 11.7% onge (reich) @ 2.91
6 90.4% tibet (simonson) + 9.6% kharia (chaubey) @ 3
7 90.4% tibet (simonson) + 9.6% savara (chaubey) @ 3.08
8 90.5% tibet (simonson) + 9.5% ho (chaubey) @ 3.16
9 90.1% tibet (simonson) + 9.9% sahariya (reich) @ 3.2
10 78.6% tibet (simonson) + 21.4% garo (chaubey) @ 3.44
11 79.6% tibet (simonson) + 20.4% burmanese (chaubey) @ 3.52
12 90.6% tibet (simonson) + 9.4% asur (chaubey) @ 3.55
13 90.7% tibet (simonson) + 9.3% santhal (reich) @ 3.57
14 90.4% tibet (simonson) + 9.6% gond (metspalu) @ 3.78
15 90.7% tibet (simonson) + 9.3% nihali (metspalu) @ 3.86
16 90.3% tibet (simonson) + 9.7% satnami (reich) @ 3.9
17 89.2% tibet (simonson) + 10.8% bengali (harappa) @ 3.91
18 90.1% tibet (simonson) + 9.9% tharu (reich) @ 3.93
19 90.6% tibet (simonson) + 9.4% chenchu (reich) @ 4.18
20 90% tibet (simonson) + 10% sri-lankan (harappa) @ 4.31

Rgvgjhvv
06-12-2019, 03:15 PM
Looks Filipino in the first picture.

Maguzanci
06-12-2019, 03:18 PM
Looks Filipino in the first picture.

What about the rest?

How much holy sacred Caucasoid blood you think run in OP's veins?

Rgvgjhvv
06-12-2019, 03:23 PM
What about the rest?

How much holy sacred Caucasoid blood you think run in OP's veins?

I would have guessed him as SE Asian definitely, but not Thai. Somewhere more south but not too sure.

Maguzanci
06-12-2019, 04:43 PM
yeah he might be similar to that south asian level found in that thai sample. Yeah i think he could fit among assamese and khasis pretty well. you're right i think he could sort of pass as half south asian. I need to see more burmese and thais though. This guy is the image i have of burmese and to an extent thais lol and im not sure how representative google images are.

here's tamang results. They come out as 80% japanese and 20% south indian like in the oracles.

Lama (tamang) (WX4535947)
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Asian 61.95
2 S-Indian 14.26
3 Siberian 10.23
4 SE-Asian 6.83
5 Baloch 2.98
6 American 1.79
7 Papuan 1.04
8 E-African 0.64
9 Beringian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 tu (hgdp) 14.26
2 naxi (hgdp) 16.15
3 xibo (hgdp) 16.67
4 yi (hgdp) 17.28
5 nepalese-b (xing) 17.48
6 japanese (hgdp) 17.63
7 mongola (hgdp) 17.88
8 tibet (simonson) 18.4
9 han-nchina (hgdp) 20.75
10 nysha (reich) 21.39
11 naga (metspalu) 21.84
12 chinese-beijing (1000genomes) 22.86
13 chinese-beijing (hapmap) 22.97
14 aonaga (reich) 23.21
15 hezhen (hgdp) 24.41
16 daur (hgdp) 25.43
17 garo (chaubey) 25.67
18 tujia (hgdp) 27.55
19 burmanese (chaubey) 27.74
20 chinese-american (hapmap) 28.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.2% tibet (simonson) + 28.8% khasi (chaubey) @ 3.22
2 50.2% nepalese-b (xing) + 49.8% japanese (hgdp) @ 3.22
3 82.3% japanese (hgdp) + 17.7% tn-dalit (xing) @ 3.34
4 85% tu (hgdp) + 15% nihali (metspalu) @ 3.39
5 82.4% japanese (hgdp) + 17.6% mala (reich) @ 3.42
6 82% japanese (hgdp) + 18% north-kannadi (chaubey) @ 3.46
7 82% japanese (hgdp) + 18% kurumba (reich) @ 3.52
8 82% japanese (hgdp) + 18% hakkipikki (metspalu) @ 3.54
9 85.4% tu (hgdp) + 14.6% mala (reich) @ 3.54
10 85.3% tu (hgdp) + 14.7% ap-mala (xing) @ 3.59
11 82.3% japanese (hgdp) + 17.7% ap-mala (xing) @ 3.6
12 86% tu (hgdp) + 14% paniya (chaubey) @ 3.61
13 81.8% japanese (hgdp) + 18.2% tamil-vishwakarma (harappa) @ 3.62
14 81.9% japanese (hgdp) + 18.1% ap-madiga (xing) @ 3.63
15 82.1% japanese (hgdp) + 17.9% madiga (reich) @ 3.66
16 85.4% tu (hgdp) + 14.6% tn-dalit (xing) @ 3.67
17 85.1% tu (hgdp) + 14.9% kurumba (reich) @ 3.7
18 81.9% japanese (hgdp) + 18.1% bhil (reich) @ 3.76
19 81.8% japanese (hgdp) + 18.2% chamar (metspalu) @ 3.78
20 81.6% japanese (hgdp) + 18.4% chenchu (reich) @ 3.81


Yangchen/Sherpa (A535293) (all the 10% south indian seems to be ASI related rather than actual mix due to the lack of west eurasian)
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Asian 69.18
2 Siberian 11.87
3 S-Indian 9.87
4 SE-Asian 3.42
5 American 1.62
6 Papuan 1.5
7 Baloch 0.8
8 Caucasian 0.57
9 NE-Euro 0.57
10 Beringian 0.43
11 SW-Asian 0.1
12 San 0.04
13 E-African 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 tu (hgdp) 8.32
2 tibet (simonson) 9.7
3 japanese (hgdp) 12.19
4 xibo (hgdp) 12.85
5 nysha (reich) 13.32
6 naxi (hgdp) 13.41
7 naga (metspalu) 14.09
8 yi (hgdp) 15.02
9 aonaga (reich) 15.4
10 han-nchina (hgdp) 15.72
11 mongola (hgdp) 15.89
12 chinese-beijing (1000genomes) 20.05
13 chinese-beijing (hapmap) 20.21
14 hezhen (hgdp) 22.53
15 daur (hgdp) 23.58
16 nepalese-b (xing) 24.61
17 japanese (xing) 27.59
18 tujia (hgdp) 28.5
19 chinese-american (hapmap) 29.04
20 japanese (1000genomes) 31.49

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.9% tibet (simonson) + 15.1% khasi (chaubey) @ 2.07
2 87.9% tibet (simonson) + 12.1% great-andamanese (reich) @ 2.59
3 90.2% tibet (simonson) + 9.8% juang (chaubey) @ 2.66
4 90.2% tibet (simonson) + 9.8% bonda (chaubey) @ 2.67
5 88.3% tibet (simonson) + 11.7% onge (reich) @ 2.91
6 90.4% tibet (simonson) + 9.6% kharia (chaubey) @ 3
7 90.4% tibet (simonson) + 9.6% savara (chaubey) @ 3.08
8 90.5% tibet (simonson) + 9.5% ho (chaubey) @ 3.16
9 90.1% tibet (simonson) + 9.9% sahariya (reich) @ 3.2
10 78.6% tibet (simonson) + 21.4% garo (chaubey) @ 3.44
11 79.6% tibet (simonson) + 20.4% burmanese (chaubey) @ 3.52
12 90.6% tibet (simonson) + 9.4% asur (chaubey) @ 3.55
13 90.7% tibet (simonson) + 9.3% santhal (reich) @ 3.57
14 90.4% tibet (simonson) + 9.6% gond (metspalu) @ 3.78
15 90.7% tibet (simonson) + 9.3% nihali (metspalu) @ 3.86
16 90.3% tibet (simonson) + 9.7% satnami (reich) @ 3.9
17 89.2% tibet (simonson) + 10.8% bengali (harappa) @ 3.91
18 90.1% tibet (simonson) + 9.9% tharu (reich) @ 3.93
19 90.6% tibet (simonson) + 9.4% chenchu (reich) @ 4.18
20 90% tibet (simonson) + 10% sri-lankan (harappa) @ 4.31


If he is around 20% South Asian or more like that Thai sample, he would at least have 12% West Eurasian ancestry and 8% AASI as well lol. That is the same amount of Western blood as Mundas lol.

He might score similar amount of Western blood to this same Thai model. Western Eurasian is now represented using Iran Mazandarani (altho they could have very little amounts of AASI as well)

"sample": "Test2:Thai_-_DCH008",
"fit": 2.0568,
"Dai": 25,
"Han": 14.17,
"Htin_Mal": 14.17,
"LAO_LN_BA": 13.33,
"Iranian_Mazandarani": 11.67,
"Simulated_AASI_Averaged": 8.33,
"Igorot": 7.5,
"Malaysia_LN": 5.83,
"closestDistances":


Interesting. Can you see him passing as any other group besides Assamese or Khasi? You think he can pass as some sort of half South Asian? Wouldn't he need to have more Cock-Asian blood to look half South Asian?

Yep I will post more Burmese and Thai in my classification to give you more of an idea. Google Images are fairly representative but celebrities are not that representative especially the half White or Chinese or Korean looking ones. (Actually they are representative as Thailand has at least 14% ethnic Chinese; one of the largest Chinese diaspora in the world)

The Tamang has only 3% Baloch so that is very tiny West Eurasian like several SE Asians lol. Maybe some more is hiding in that South Indian component. I really wish there could a Gedmatch calc that separate the South Asian into West Eurasian and AASI; it will give a much more accurate how much actual South Asian they really have (as it show both Western and AASI which are part of Indian admixture).

You right for Sherpa all South Asian seem AASI although there is almost like 2 % Western Eurasian (NE Euro+Baloch+Caucasian+SW Asian) but it could be just noise from the calculator than any actual Western blood.

Do you think OP has West Eurasian ancestry and how much?

Btw forget to mention one thing, I asked some Thais if they think OP has any foreign ancestry and they replied: he looks like an indigenous pure Siamese without Chinese or Mon-Khmer ancestry. Which made me lolled. If he is pure indigenous Siamese/Thai, then pure Thais without foreign blood must be at least 20-25% or more South Asian lol.

Maguzanci
06-13-2019, 01:35 PM
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