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Demirkazık
11-24-2023, 12:43 AM
Turkish
https://voca.ro/167nGpGBiU2P

Medeniyetten nasibini almış Türkçesi bu, benimki daşşak kokuyor... Türkçe aksanı kaymasın diye ıkınarak konuştum yemin ediyorum.

Ahmet
11-24-2023, 01:07 AM
Accent in English sounds Generic American mixed with something else. Accent in Spanish sounds Generic Latin American mixed with something else. I cannot speak Russian, but you sound clearly much less guttural and closed-mouth than native Russian-speakers.

Thanks! I am really curious about my Russian because I haven't talked with a Russian before so I wonder how good it is.


Medeniyetten nasibini almış Türkçesi bu, benimki daşşak kokuyor... Türkçe aksanı kaymasın diye ıkınarak konuştum yemin ediyorum.

Aksanın attığın sesde gayet normal geliyor sen aksanı bırakta ses tonun felaket harbiden fena daşşak kokuyor.

Demirkazık
11-24-2023, 01:19 AM
Aksanın attığın sesde gayet normal geliyor sen aksanı bırakta ses tonun felaket harbiden fena daşşak kokuyor.

Zamanında diksiyon eğitimi almıştım gayet güzel akıcı konuşuyordum, 1 ay memlekete gittim dönüşümde diksiyon miksiyon kalmadı ondan.

Etelfrido
11-24-2023, 02:38 AM
English: https://voca.ro/12WT5gB2JQfi

Spanish: https://voca.ro/1bVILXfEx3Sf

Portuguese: https://voca.ro/11Pdl2s3bl6n


Here am I singing the opening two lines in English, Spanish, Portuguese and the original French:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzaTyxMduH4

https://voca.ro/1lrR0OKo5RUz
Which accent did you aim for in Portuguese? You have something of a foreign accent but you're completely understandable. I think one could compare your accent to the Northeastern Brazilian accent as you use the /d/ sound in "compreendi" instead of /dʒ/ but you don't use the European /ɨ/ vowel.

Tooting Carmen
11-24-2023, 02:41 AM
English: https://voca.ro/12WT5gB2JQfi

Spanish: https://voca.ro/1bVILXfEx3Sf

Portuguese: https://voca.ro/11Pdl2s3bl6n


Which accent did you aim for in Portuguese? You have something of a foreign accent but you're completely understandable. I think one could compare your accent to the Northeastern Brazilian accent as you use the /d/ sound in "compreendi" instead of /dʒ/ but you don't use the European /ɨ/ vowel.

My Brazilian teachers were both Paulistas, but I have modified my Brazilian accent over the years because a lot of my clients are Portuguese and Lusophone Africans who can be surprisingly flustered by Brazilian pronunciation.

Etelfrido
11-24-2023, 02:52 AM
My Brazilian teachers were both Paulistas, but I have modified my Brazilian accent over the years because a lot of my clients are Portuguese and Lusophone Africans who can be surprisingly flustered by Brazilian pronunciation.
I can see that, Africans speak Portuguese much more similarly to the Portuguese than to us.
As you're an interpreter, I'd like to know your thoughts on my English and Spanish (and on my Portuguese too if you'd like). :)

bvnny
11-24-2023, 03:50 AM
English:
https://vocaroo.com/12PVxAt0ViQ3

Portuguese:
https://vocaroo.com/1oLsnmeYeVh3

Vessna
11-24-2023, 04:09 AM
English
https://voca.ro/12F9a5havU2k

Spanish
https://voca.ro/1nJjTZmz34bz

Russian
https://voca.ro/1ecbuHSomRYg

Turkish
https://voca.ro/167nGpGBiU2P


First of all, I am impressed with the number of languages you speak. You have a nice accent when you speak English. I can tell that you are not native, but overall pretty good for someone who only lived in the states for 6 months.
Your Russian is great as well. It’s not the easiest accents to master but you sound clear and understandable.

Vessna
11-24-2023, 04:27 AM
In English:
https://vocaroo.com/15TfiumxTZHl

In Turkish:
https://vocaroo.com/16uwzPvPDUb5

You speak American English with an accent but I can’t tell exactly what kind. I wouldn’t be able to tell where you are from exactly.
Your English is great btw.

Vessna
11-24-2023, 04:29 AM
English:

https://voca.ro/1fZGtEJ6AUjq

German:

https://voca.ro/1fmSDubgaFyE

Nice German accent :)

Vessna
11-24-2023, 04:33 AM
In English
https://voca.ro/15v5PRhSPw7z
In Italian
https://voca.ro/16axKJxiCEu3
In Spanish
https://voca.ro/1bYbfdp8CMSi
In Portuguese
https://voca.ro/1oIkxX4qiMTd
Do I sound like I come from NY City? Haven't lived there for a looong time.

Yea, you got a tinge of Brooklyn but very slight.

Vessna
11-24-2023, 04:36 AM
You sound exactly how I’ve always imagined lol. Love it

That’s how I’ve imagined him to sound as well.

Abti
11-24-2023, 04:38 AM
https://voca.ro/11k44Yea0SO8

Dick
11-24-2023, 04:52 AM
https://voca.ro/11k44Yea0SO8

Hello, brother

https://voca.ro/1nOPbAc67uTC

Abti
11-24-2023, 05:00 AM
Hello, brother

https://voca.ro/1nOPbAc67uTC

You sound very country for a Canadian.

https://voca.ro/185zeYjCdSEc

Vessna
11-24-2023, 05:27 AM
https://voca.ro/11k44Yea0SO8

Nice one. I did not expect you to sound like this.

Vessna
11-24-2023, 05:31 AM
Hello, brother

https://voca.ro/1nOPbAc67uTC

you sound like you are from jersey

majevica
11-24-2023, 05:47 AM
https://voca.ro/1kB96Dzhua3j

rothaer
11-24-2023, 06:02 AM
https://voca.ro/1kB96Dzhua3j

Now the guests are inviting further guests? Invasive and highly unpleasant. Nobody but Germans should learn and use my mother tongue for their own regular communication.

Melkiirs
11-24-2023, 06:12 AM
No. Invasive and highly unpleasant. Nobody but Germans should learn and use my mother tongue for their own regular communication.

Have you ever posted your voice before here?

rothaer
11-24-2023, 06:13 AM
Have you ever posted your voice before here?

Yes, but how does that relate to the quote?

Melkiirs
11-24-2023, 06:14 AM
Yes, but what's the connection to the quote?

Just some curiosity about how your accent differs.

majevica
11-24-2023, 06:17 AM
Now the guests are inviting further guests? Invasive and highly unpleasant. Nobody but Germans should learn and use my mother tongue for their own regular communication.

Ok

rothaer
11-24-2023, 06:18 AM
Just some curiosity about how your accent differs.

The commented by me statement was in German.

Melkiirs
11-24-2023, 06:20 AM
The commented by me statement was in German.

Not your accent speaking in English but how you speak German differently. You described the speech in that recording as invasive and highly unpleasant.

rothaer
11-24-2023, 06:27 AM
Not your accent speaking in English but how you speak German differently. You described the speech in that recording as invasive and highly unpleasant.

I referred much to the content where was spoken perfect German by a non-German and stated that German is a nice language and that it could be adviced to learn it as it's beneficial.

As for my own speech and "dialect" I'll maybe record it another time.

Vessna
11-24-2023, 06:34 AM
Nobody but Germans should learn and use my mother tongue for their own regular communication .

I hope it’s a joke.

rothaer
11-24-2023, 06:37 AM
I hope it’s a joke.

Absolutely not.

rothaer
11-24-2023, 06:42 AM
I hope it’s a joke.

The language as a mother tongue is a main marker of the biological reproduction community of the German people. And I don't like invasions into that. I've very strong instincts and do sense this very well.

Mortimer
11-24-2023, 06:50 AM
The language as a mother tongue is a main marker of the biological reproduction community of the German people. And I don't like invasions into that. I've very strong instincts and do sense this very well.

That is a bit extreme, usually germans want that you learn the german language if you live in germany. Do you prefer migrants or people with migrant background who in the third generation do not speak german? But I guess I know your answer, you want that there are no people of non-german origin in germany, so that is your final goal, so in that context, it could make sense, right?

rothaer
11-24-2023, 06:57 AM
That is a bit extreme, usually germans want that you learn the german language if you live in germany. Do you prefer migrants or people with migrant background who in the third generation do not speak german? But I guess I know your answer, you want that there are no people of non-german origin in germany, so that is your final goal, so in that context, it could make sense, right?

Right.

But besides what may be "technically" meaningful, there is to me also the aspect of cultural appropriation (no matter if it's about minorities or majorities). We spoke of that.

EDIT: As for majorities and that mentioned aspect: If I am as a German in Sweden, Croatia or Slovenia and I would very much appreciate those countries and cultures, I'd nevertheless not feel entiteled to go there and prominently exhibit a Swedish flag, a Croatian checkerboard or a Slovenian hat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_symbols_of_Slovenia

Doing that is reserved for them. If I would do that it would be like banalising and ultimately disrespecting their property and identity.

Vessna
11-24-2023, 07:08 AM
The language as a mother tongue is a main marker of the biological reproduction community of the German people. And I don't like invasions into that. I've very strong instincts and do sense this very well.

That’s rather a convoluted statement. I am having trouble understanding your point. You don’t want non-Germans to learn and speak German language, is this correct? Why?

rothaer
11-24-2023, 07:27 AM
That’s rather a convoluted statement. I am having trouble understanding your point. You don’t want non-Germans to learn and speak German language, is this correct? Why?

I'll try to explain.

The main point is that I don't want any intrusion into my people (the biological reproduction community). Now, as for the German ethnictiy - it may be different regarding other ethnicities - it is essentially defined by traditionally being a native speaker of German. So this gives the language some weight. From this aspect I've no interest in incorporating others in the German native speakers community.

Now, this aspect is not violated when non-Germans learn some German as a foreign language. Because they would then not become confused for a native speaker. But if it goes much further - and this will realistically apply to residing in Germany non-Germans - then this aspect will become violated.

What as a consequence then exactly should be wished for will be a matter of consideration.

majevica
11-24-2023, 08:11 AM
https://voca.ro/18fbx92YpICc

Tooting Carmen
11-24-2023, 09:29 AM
I can see that, Africans speak Portuguese much more similarly to the Portuguese than to us.
As you're an interpreter, I'd like to know your thoughts on my English and Spanish (and on my Portuguese too if you'd like). :)

Oddly, you sound like an American speaking Spanish. xD Your accent in English, as you said yourself, is a peculiar British-American-foreign hybrid. Your accent in Portuguese just sounds generic Brazilian.

Tooting Carmen
11-24-2023, 09:30 AM
English:
https://vocaroo.com/12PVxAt0ViQ3

Portuguese:
https://vocaroo.com/1oLsnmeYeVh3

You sound very Brazilian in both languages...

Tooting Carmen
11-24-2023, 09:31 AM
https://voca.ro/1gAPx3ZcSXIy

Sehr gut.

Demirkazık
11-24-2023, 11:06 AM
You speak American English with an accent but I can’t tell exactly what kind. I wouldn’t be able to tell where you are from exactly.
Your English is great btw.

Thanks, I assume I'm probably speaking English in a roundy way ? The tone of my voice also should sound a bit foreign-ish.

What do you think about the Turkish part ?

Mortimer
11-24-2023, 11:32 AM
Right.

But besides what may be "technically" meaningful, there is to me also the aspect of cultural appropriation (no matter if it's about minorities or majorities). We spoke of that.

EDIT: As for majorities and that mentioned aspect: If I am as a German in Sweden, Croatia or Slovenia and I would very much appreciate those countries and cultures, I'd nevertheless not feel entiteled to go there and prominently exhibit a Swedish flag, a Croatian checkerboard or a Slovenian hat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_symbols_of_Slovenia

Doing that is reserved for them. If I would do that it would be like banalising and ultimately disrespecting their property and identity.

I do not even know what happened I think someone spoke german who is not a german I just saw your comment

Tooting Carmen
11-24-2023, 11:36 AM
I do not even know what happened I think someone spoke german who is not a german I just saw your comment

I also find it deeply ironic how he has co-opted the nonsensical term "cultural appropriation" from SJW types. And usually most people who are proud want others to learn their language, which is an expression not only of ethnic and national identity internally, but also of power externally. (There is a reason we are conducting this debate in English despite not even being the majority of forum users' native tongue).

Scarface F
11-24-2023, 11:46 AM
I also find it deeply ironic how he has co-opted the nonsensical term "cultural appropriation" from SJW types. And usually most people who are proud want others to learn their language, which is an expression not only of ethnic and national identity internally, but also of power externally. (There is a reason we are conducting this debate in English despite not even being the majority of forum users' native tongue).

He obviously doesn't care for "external power expression" but knows that foreigners will more easily mix with Germans and be accepted by them if they speak their language and he doesn't want that.

nittionia
11-24-2023, 12:17 PM
Oh nein :eek:

rothaer
11-24-2023, 12:46 PM
(...) (There is a reason we are conducting this debate in English despite not even being the majority of forum users' native tongue).

Yeah, we abuse - not to say rape - this language as a lingua franca, don't much care for what's right and wrong and contribute to its pidgining. :p

And besides that the result of a lingua franca - like English, French and partially Spanish - is that the mongrels from all over the world feel comfortable to go to those countries and by that contribute to their third-world-isation.

Vessna
11-24-2023, 12:52 PM
I'll try to explain.

The main point is that I don't want any intrusion into my people (the biological reproduction community). Now, as for the German ethnictiy - it may be different regarding other ethnicities - it is essentially defined by traditionally being a native speaker of German. So this gives the language some weight. From this aspect I've no interest in incorporating others in the German native speakers community.

Now, this aspect is not violated when non-Germans learn some German as a foreign language. Because they would then not become confused for a native speaker. But if it goes much further - and this will realistically apply to residing in Germany non-Germans - then this aspect will become violated.

What as a consequence then exactly should be wished for will be a matter of consideration.

I got you. You don’t want majevica to confuse German girls with his perfect German :)
Now I really want to hear him speak it.

Btw from what I read here German women gladly mingle with middle eastern guys and language is not an issue ;)

Tooting Carmen
11-24-2023, 12:53 PM
Yeah, we abuse - not to say rape - this language as a lingua franca, don't much care for what's right and wrong and contribute to its pidgining. :p

Perhaps so. But the main point is the reason we are conducting this debate in English, rather than any other language, is due to the legacy of firstly British and more recently American power. What Postmodernist ideologues like Sandra Harding and Andrew Ross claim about 'Western' science (and ironically I think they are monolingual themselves) - that it has taken over the world not because it is objectively right or better, but due to the political/economic/military power of the West - is actually much more true of the English language. After all, science is something that is universal and objective, whereas languages (like cultures) are by their very nature local and particular.

Vessna
11-24-2023, 12:55 PM
https://voca.ro/18fbx92YpICc

I was able to understand some of it :)
Can you post your german? And tell rothaer you will steal all his women and a peacock ;)

Scarface F
11-24-2023, 01:04 PM
Perhaps so. But the main point is the reason we are conducting this debate in English, rather than any other language, is due to the legacy of firstly British and more recently American power. What Postmodernist ideologues like Sandra Harding and Andrew Ross claim about 'Western' science (and ironically I think they are monolingual themselves) - that it has taken over the world not because it is objectively right or better, but due to the political/economic/military power of the West - is actually much more true of the English language. After all, science is something that is universal and objective, whereas languages (like cultures) are by their very nature local and particular.

That's why you have Paki PM of Scotland and major of London as well as Indian PM of UK.

Tooting Carmen
11-24-2023, 01:08 PM
That's why you have Paki PM of Scotland and major of London as well as Indian PM of UK.

If you mean it is an albeit indirect legacy of Empire, then yes. But in fact, Ireland and Portugal both had PMs of (partial) Indian descent before us. All the same, even in 1987 there were only four non-white MPs in all of Parliament, and for a long time after that it only grew very incrementally. This super multi-ethnic Parliament you see now is a barely decade-old phenomenon.

Mortimer
11-24-2023, 01:12 PM
Oh nein :eek:

https://voca.ro/1c1SJlcVLzOs

Tooting Carmen
11-24-2023, 01:12 PM
https://voca.ro/1c1SJlcVLzOs

You sound like a drunk version of Faklon. xD

rothaer
11-24-2023, 01:14 PM
I was able to understand some of it :)
Can you post your german? Tell rothaer you will steal all his women and a peacock.

It's not a big damage if a German woman is stolen and then gone as long as we can make new ones. It's more about at some point not anymore being able to do so when there are no Germans (only half Germans) left.

The same applies to peacocks. I can get a new one as long as the blue peacock lineages are preserved and existent. And that should be cared for.

Tooting Carmen
11-24-2023, 01:14 PM
It's not a big damage if a German woman is stolen and then gone as long as we can make new ones. It's more about at some point not anymore being able to do so when there are no Germans (only half Germans) left.

The same applies to peacocks. I can get a new one as long as the blue peacock lineages are preserved and existent.

A rather cold and dehumanising comparison and worldview.

Mortimer
11-24-2023, 01:15 PM
You sound like a drunk version of Faklon. xD

Who is Faklon

nittionia
11-24-2023, 01:17 PM
It's not a big damage if a German woman is stolen and then gone as long as we can make new ones. It's more about at some point not anymore being able to do so when there are no Germans (only half Germans) left.

The same applies to peacocks. I can get a new one as long as the blue peacock lineages are preserved and existent. And that should be cared for.
This is where I put my foot down. Keep Lingon out of this.

rothaer
11-24-2023, 01:17 PM
That's why you have Paki PM of Scotland and major of London as well as Indian PM of UK.

Bingo.

rothaer
11-24-2023, 01:19 PM
This is where I put my foot down. Keep Lingon out of this.

It was Vessna that could not refrain from attacking Lingon. :cry

Tooting Carmen
11-24-2023, 01:20 PM
Who is Faklon

Greek forum member.

Mortimer
11-24-2023, 01:22 PM
Greek forum member.

I want to know if I would be spotted as non native speaker I guess I do not sound british but maybe one of the many american slangs?

Tooting Carmen
11-24-2023, 01:25 PM
I want to know if I would be spotted as non native speaker I guess I do not sound british but maybe one of the many american slangs?

No, you sound very foreign.

rothaer
11-24-2023, 01:28 PM
A rather cold and dehumanising comparison and worldview.

Of course it's dehumanising if I compare it with an animal but this only shows the even more general applicability of what I say. No reason to always excempt humans from all otherwise applied principles.

And there is nothing cold about that - in contrary, there are hottest emotions behind these essentials of life - and I maybe should add the suitable smileys to make that clear once for all! There is :love0031::love0031::love0031::love0021::love0003: and :mad: :mad: :voodoo::machine gun::machine gun::machine gun::no::aufsmaul_2::censored

Kess
11-24-2023, 01:41 PM
I want to know if I would be spotted as non native speaker I guess I do not sound british but maybe one of the many american slangs?

No, you sound non-native.

rothaer
11-24-2023, 01:51 PM
I want to know if I would be spotted as non native speaker I guess I do not sound british but maybe one of the many american slangs?

Honestly, the self-perception that is implied by this question regarding your language skills is unreasonable.

Mortimer
11-24-2023, 01:55 PM
No, you sound very foreign.

I do not really trust you fully nor the others here if it were not too extreme and you could you would say I sound indian I will ask somewhere else where they do not know me

Scarface F
11-24-2023, 01:56 PM
I do not really trust you fully nor the others here if it were not too extreme and you could you would say I sound indian I will ask somewhere else where they do not know me

You don't sound Indian at all

Etelfrido
11-24-2023, 02:22 PM
Portuguese:
https://vocaroo.com/1oLsnmeYeVh3
Extremely Carioca...

majevica
11-24-2023, 04:41 PM
I was able to understand some of it :)
Can you post your german? And tell rothaer you will steal all his women and a peacock ;)

Here for the third time, the recording that rothaer complained about.

https://voca.ro/1lgPuTZm5dZf

Maybe he can do one for us in Yiddish?

rothaer
11-24-2023, 06:06 PM
I got you. (...)

I'm sure you did and I'm also sure that you (and others) find my statements - not necessarly really the content - unsympatethic. I'm sorry for that and this is the price that I have to pay and this is also the reason why most people refrain from it. But if I wouldn't even dare to pseudonymously tell my opinion when the respective topic comes up, I could not look at myself in the mirror anymore (as is said in German).


Btw from what I read here German women gladly mingle with middle eastern guys and language is not an issue ;)

Nice try. :p After I'm mentally essentially autonomous I'm not dependent on what (some) others do or think. :)

rothaer
11-24-2023, 06:14 PM
(...)

Maybe he can do one for us in Yiddish?

Fortunately this is beyond my skills. Tbh I even find it embarrassing to listen at. ;) But I don't want to open up one more topic here.

#Oda#
11-24-2023, 06:59 PM
... Now, as for the German ethnictiy - it may be different regarding other ethnicities - it is essentially defined by traditionally being a native speaker of German. So this gives the language some weight. From this aspect I've no interest in incorporating others in the German native speakers community.

Now, this aspect is not violated when non-Germans learn some German as a foreign language. Because they would then not become confused for a native speaker. But if it goes much further - and this will realistically apply to residing in Germany non-Germans - then this aspect will become violated.

What as a consequence then exactly should be wished for will be a matter of consideration.

Absolutely crazy. Sorry, but this, my feeling, is so deep, I can't restrain it and can't prevent me from writing.

PlattitüdenPaule
11-24-2023, 08:06 PM
Nice voice bro, unlike me you sound like a modern human...

Thanks buddy. I often get told I've got a friendly and approachable voice.

PlattitüdenPaule
11-24-2023, 08:08 PM
I'm in really bad period of my life, it probably can be felt in tone perhaps.

Best wishes, get well again soon.

Creoda
11-24-2023, 09:14 PM
I'll try to explain.

The main point is that I don't want any intrusion into my people (the biological reproduction community). Now, as for the German ethnictiy - it may be different regarding other ethnicities - it is essentially defined by traditionally being a native speaker of German. So this gives the language some weight. From this aspect I've no interest in incorporating others in the German native speakers community.

Now, this aspect is not violated when non-Germans learn some German as a foreign language. Because they would then not become confused for a native speaker. But if it goes much further - and this will realistically apply to residing in Germany non-Germans - then this aspect will become violated.

What as a consequence then exactly should be wished for will be a matter of consideration.
https://voca.ro/160vNcX7KHbg

#Oda#
11-24-2023, 10:22 PM
Fortunately this is beyond my skills. Tbh I even find it embarrassing to listen at. ;) But I don't want to open up one more topic here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGveTSQbH30 One of my most beloved songs.

Etelfrido
11-24-2023, 10:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGveTSQbH30 One of my most beloved songs.
Kinda off-topic but you reminded me that they sang an English version of a famous Brazilian song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tq4L4iLRqA

rothaer
11-24-2023, 10:38 PM
Absolutely crazy. Sorry, but this, my feeling, is so deep, I can't restrain it and can't prevent me from writing.

I know. You are perfectly in line with "Vichy Germany" and do agree to the ongoing sui-ethnocide on our people and you lack an instinct of self-preservation, an instinct that is the natural property of essentially every living being.

I've no interest in personally blaming anyone because this is both contra productive and also it's clear to me that almost everyone has the opinion that he really thinks is right. Also you. But I will never give up to point these things out with the hope that it may cause one or another individual to have some additional own thoughts on this topic and eventually maybe be able to escape the current mainstream hypnosis.

rothaer
11-24-2023, 10:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGveTSQbH30 One of my most beloved songs.

Of course. This is cultural and political pornography for umerzogene (re-educated) Germans.

Voskos
11-24-2023, 10:52 PM
Right.

But besides what may be "technically" meaningful, there is to me also the aspect of cultural appropriation (no matter if it's about minorities or majorities). We spoke of that.

EDIT: As for majorities and that mentioned aspect: If I am as a German in Sweden, Croatia or Slovenia and I would very much appreciate those countries and cultures, I'd nevertheless not feel entiteled to go there and prominently exhibit a Swedish flag, a Croatian checkerboard or a Slovenian hat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_symbols_of_Slovenia

Doing that is reserved for them. If I would do that it would be like banalising and ultimately disrespecting their property and identity.

studying law has been a bad influence on you. You're trying to create your own laws in order to satisfy your scientific inquisitiveness.

#Oda#
11-24-2023, 11:19 PM
Kinda off-topic but you reminded me that they sang an English version of a famous Brazilian song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tq4L4iLRqA

It's not off-topic since there's Yiddish in.

#Oda#
11-24-2023, 11:21 PM
Of course. This is cultural and political pornography for umerzogene (re-educated) Germans.

THIS is just a song with a great melody and swing, you philistine.

#Oda#
11-24-2023, 11:22 PM
Voskos quote: "studying law has been a bad influence on you. You're trying to create your own laws in order to satisfy your scientific inquisitiveness."

It's probably also much due to his half or so Asperger syndrom.

rothaer
11-24-2023, 11:29 PM
THIS is just a song with a great melody and swing, you philistine.

But that is not why you mentioned it, you hypocrite.

#Oda#
11-24-2023, 11:31 PM
But that is not why you mentioned it, you hypocrite.

hypocrite??? It just came to my mind because there's a Yiddish sentence in and has always faszinated me just for music reasons.

rothaer
11-24-2023, 11:37 PM
studying law has been a bad influence on you. You're trying to create your own laws in order to satisfy your scientific inquisitiveness.

No, long before studying law (which btw. is intellectually a surprisingly poor subject) I tried to avoid contradictions and this is the source for formulating rules / principles. It's about satisfying the requirements of logics. This I do expect from everyone that wants to be taken seriously.

rothaer
11-24-2023, 11:38 PM
hypocrite??? It just came to my mind because there's a Yiddish sentence in and has always faszinated me just for music reasons.

Exactly, because it's Yiddish.

#Oda#
11-24-2023, 11:39 PM
I know. You are perfectly in line with "Vichy Germany" and do agree to the ongoing sui-ethnocide on our people and you lack an instinct of self-preservation, an instinct that is the natural property of essentially every living being.

I've no interest in personally blaming anyone because this is both contra productive and also it's clear to me that almost everyone has the opinion that he really thinks is right. Also you. But I will never give up to point these things out with the hope that it may cause one or another individual to have some additional own thoughts on this topic and eventually maybe be able to escape the current mainstream hypnosis.

Not true. I don‘t lack that instinct, but I don‘t go as far as you for that. And all this has absolutely nothing to do with wanting to be in line with mainstream or other reasons.

rothaer
11-24-2023, 11:41 PM
Voskos quote: "studying law has been a bad influence on you. You're trying to create your own laws in order to satisfy your scientific inquisitiveness."

It's probably also much due to his half or so Asperger syndrom.

It makes it easier to dig deeper, yes.

But if you try to derive any delegitimation from that skills, it would be nothing but unfactual.

#Oda#
11-24-2023, 11:41 PM
Exactly, because it's Yiddish.

So what? Was just a vagary.

#Oda#
11-24-2023, 11:43 PM
It makes it easier to dig deeper, yes..

Yes. But also a partly lack of perception.

rothaer
11-25-2023, 12:06 AM
Yes. But also a partly lack of perception.

Yes, but not in these things that are dealt with. If I'm 50% Aspie then my oldest daughter is 60% Aspie. Three of her four grandparents were medical doctors. She got awarded for the best dissertation of the medicince faculty in a particular year at a particular German university. So please don't be childish.

But if you are on the search for the popular and unassessable EQ instead of IQ then you are right, then I'm for sure the wrong address. You will then find much more competent people than me in an arbitrary church service. :pray:

Etelfrido
11-25-2023, 12:54 AM
It's not off-topic since there's Yiddish in.
I was referring to the link I posted. :)

#Oda#
11-25-2023, 01:03 AM
rothaer: "t's not a big damage if a German woman is stolen and then gone as long as we can make new ones. It's more about at some point not anymore being able to do so when there are no Germans (only half Germans) left.
The same applies to peacocks. I can get a new one as long as the blue peacock lineages are preserved and existent. And that should be cared for."

nittionia: This is where I put my foot down. Keep Lingon out of this.

As to genetics, I can assure you, that I have much more in common with each country west and north of Germany than with rothaer and very most Eastern Germans.
He knows this issue of course. And now please elaborate about your most beloved sesquipedalian and fetish Fortpflanzungsgemeinschaft, rothaer.

Vessna
11-25-2023, 02:36 AM
https://voca.ro/160vNcX7KHbg

You need to get a stick out of your Australian arse, there is something off putting about it.

Creoda
11-25-2023, 03:09 AM
You need to get a stick out of your Australian arse, there is something off putting about it.
If you take offense, it's meant for you.

Vessna
11-25-2023, 03:25 AM
If you take offense, it's meant for you.

Nice try :rolleyes:
Stupidity offends me, yes.

Melkiirs
11-25-2023, 03:50 AM
Nice try :rolleyes:
Stupidity offends me, yes.

This is The Apricity after all so a desire to preserve traditional ethnocultural distinctions/boundaries including linguistic should not be truly surprising even if a fair number here would disagree. There have been posters with far more extreme views like JamesBond labeling groups as subhuman.

Vessna
11-25-2023, 04:00 AM
This is The Apricity so a desire to preserve traditional ethnocultural distinctions/boundaries including linguistic should not be truly surprising even if a fair number here would disagree. There have been posters with far more extreme views like JamesBond labeling groups as subhuman.

Then anglo-saxons should have stayed put on their little islands instead of spreading their plague to new territories.

Creoda
11-25-2023, 04:17 AM
Then anglo-saxons should have stayed put on their little islands instead of spreading their plague to new territories.
Ethnocultural boundaries, not geographical, vacuous woman.

majevica
11-25-2023, 04:19 AM
Imagine having the audacity to tell other people which language they should and shouldn't speak

Richmondbread
11-25-2023, 04:26 AM
Imagine having the audacity to tell other people which language they should and shouldn't speak

If you're in American you should speak American, IMO.

Vessna
11-25-2023, 04:27 AM
Ethnocultural boundaries, not geographical, vacuous woman.

These two naturally overlap, ingenious man.

Vessna
11-25-2023, 04:32 AM
If you're in American you should speak American, IMO.

That's not what the argument is about. It's quite the opposite. Creoda and rothaer find it disgusting and "off-putting" when non-natives speak "their" language. It apparently violates their ethno-cultural boundaries. And if I can sort of get it in the case of rothaer, the Australian is just a pure hypocrite.

Dick
11-25-2023, 05:24 AM
That's not what the argument is about. It's quite the opposite. Creoda and rothaer find it disgusting and "off-putting" when non-natives speak "their" language. It apparently violates their ethno-cultural boundaries. And if I can sort of get it in the case of rothaer, the Australian is just a pure hypocrite.

Well, Rothaer is East German so his wad of Slavic dna makes him more nationalistic than a pure German like #Oda#

Creoda is half Irish so he's more passionate than a pure Anglo-Saxon that minds their own business and won't even speak to their neighbor.

Dublin is on fire.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?378946-Dublin-is-on-fire

Abti
11-25-2023, 05:36 AM
There should be a one world language tbh.

Mortimer
11-25-2023, 06:11 AM
That's not what the argument is about. It's quite the opposite. Creoda and rothaer find it disgusting and "off-putting" when non-natives speak "their" language. It apparently violates their ethno-cultural boundaries. And if I can sort of get it in the case of rothaer, the Australian is just a pure hypocrite.

Creoda is a typical New Worlder though, he says something else then rothaer though, rothaer attacked majevica, majevica is a serb not non-white, Creoda said non-whites speaking the language only. Not other whites, rothaer, left sweden, because of his ethnonationalism, as well, so rothaer is different then creoda, rothaer is not only "racist" (about color). Creoda is only about "race"/"color".

Mortimer
11-25-2023, 06:16 AM
People here know im not american though. Lets say I call someone and he doesnt know where im from, could he believe im american as well?
Lets say I call for a job like this
I pretend as if i called someone for a job interview

https://voca.ro/16v23GF6u4NG

Norrsken
11-25-2023, 07:09 AM
People here know im not american though. Lets say I call someone and he doesnt know where im from, could he believe im american as well?
Lets say I call for a job like this
I pretend as if i called someone for a job interview

https://voca.ro/16v23GF6u4NG

Well anyone can be american but he would still know you are a recent immigrant

#Oda#
11-25-2023, 07:23 AM
Of course. This is cultural and political pornography for umerzogene (re-educated) Germans.

I simply don't get it, explain this mystery to me: Why pornography? And what for all the world has an internationally published lovesong to do with "re-education"? By the way, being reeducated from Nazism I consider a good thing for each individual and the whole world.

Tooting Carmen
11-25-2023, 08:13 AM
There should be a one world language tbh.

NO NO NO.

Mortimer
11-25-2023, 08:14 AM
Right.
Doing that is reserved for them. If I would do that it would be like banalising and ultimately disrespecting their property and identity.

Do you think it would count as cultural appropriation if i go here? If I would mingle among the crowd there? I mean I would still go there, even if you say it is, I just wanted to hear your opinion. I wont go because my sister has to pass a exam, so she is busy with learning, and my mum is not so well and I have no one else who could drive me there. I would walk if it were possible, but it is like 20 minutes with the car, you cant reach it by walking. I might go to another Adventmarkt though with my support worker, we talked about it that we will in December once, we planned St.Wolfgang once, but I dont know when, on weekends she turns off her phone, and is free. It would have to be a day during the week.

https://i.ibb.co/6vqX2yB/Mittelalter-Advent-Markt.jpg (https://ibb.co/7g0kHS4)

Mortimer
11-25-2023, 09:07 AM
Well anyone can be american but he would still know you are a recent immigrant

I hear that I do not sound british at all. I can tell apart British accent from American accent. I thought I might fit somewhere unidentified in the USA because it has 51 states, and hundreds of regional accents, and even sub-groups like ebonics etc. which is also american grown accent. But thanks for your clarification.

Tooting Carmen
11-25-2023, 09:08 AM
I hear that I do not sound british at all. I can tell apart British accent from American accent. I thought I might fit somewhere unidentified in the USA because it has 51 states, and hundreds of regional accents, and even sub-groups like ebonics etc. which is also american grown accent. But thanks for your clarification.

Actually, at least in relative terms if not possibly even real terms, the US has less diversity in accents than the UK.

rothaer
11-25-2023, 09:54 AM
Well, Rothaer is East German so his wad of Slavic dna makes him more nationalistic than a pure German like #Oda#

Creoda is half Irish so he's more passionate than a pure Anglo-Saxon that minds their own business and won't even speak to their neighbor.

Dublin is on fire.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?378946-Dublin-is-on-fire

A good analysis. If you would have said "pure Germanic" instead of "pure German" it would even have been flawless.

When it comes to instincts, traditions, whatever preservation, then we can apply a kind of inverse "nordicism" to Germany, i. e. the most Germanic parts in ancestry (genetics) are the weakest ones. It's not by chance that hardly any German traditions survived there but in Southern Germany, let it be traditional clothing and tribal pride and love to the homeland. Then as for instincs and being able to assess other people NW Germany is also the weakest part as they are - just generalised, ofc - the Swedes of Germany, i. e. they are so good-doing (in their own perception) and so naive that it hurts. They are very well performing people otherwise, generally intelligent, oderly, ambitious, but for a particular reason they have a bug in their cognition when it comes to the ability to assess other people and understand that they are thinking differently. A Swede (to mention an extreme in that sense) can not imagine that anyone is thinking differently than himself and he is totally surprised that Arabs don't behave like Swedes when they are in Sweden.

rothaer
11-25-2023, 10:02 AM
Then anglo-saxons should have stayed put on their little islands instead of spreading their plague to new territories.

Uups.

Norrsken
11-25-2023, 10:04 AM
I hear that I do not sound british at all. I can tell apart British accent from American accent. I thought I might fit somewhere unidentified in the USA because it has 51 states, and hundreds of regional accents, and even sub-groups like ebonics etc. which is also american grown accent. But thanks for your clarification.

your accent is way too foreign for both countries

Mortimer
11-25-2023, 10:12 AM
your accent is way too foreign for both countries

How do you classify yourself? Do you think you sound rather american and/or british? Do you think as scandinavian you sound more american?

rothaer
11-25-2023, 11:04 AM
I simply don't get it, explain this mystery to me: Why pornography? And what for all the world has an internationally published lovesong to do with "re-education"? By the way, being reeducated from Nazism I consider a good thing for each individual and the whole world.

- Like the Stürmer is said to have been figuratively antisemitic pornography, the current opposite is then often semitophile pornography (figuratively). In this context fits the detected appreciation for Yiddish. IMO both Yiddish is embarrssing as a horribly corrupted German as well as Germans, now detecting Yiddish as a trendy object of love. If someone seriously deals with it for analysing some interesting linguistical contents, that's another story. It being a trend is based on the re-education, ofc. Btw. even to German Jews Yiddish was often felt embarrassing.

- "being reeducated from Nazism I consider a good thing for each individual and the whole world": Lol, sure, this is the content of re-education. Unfortunately the blind re-education has gone so far that there got lost the pride on the own people and a German head of the state (Joachim Gauck) stated that he never could relate to the term Germany in any positive way. This is insane and deeply disturbed.

Norrsken
11-25-2023, 11:09 AM
How do you classify yourself? Do you think you sound rather american and/or british? Do you think as scandinavian you sound more american?

https://voca.ro/1482QHV7Dc82

Mortimer
11-25-2023, 11:51 AM
https://voca.ro/1482QHV7Dc82

You sound very norse to me indeed even if i did not know I would guess scandinavian

rothaer
11-25-2023, 12:25 PM
Do you think it would count as cultural appropriation if i go here? If I would mingle among the crowd there? I mean I would still go there, even if you say it is, I just wanted to hear your opinion. I wont go because my sister has to pass a exam, so she is busy with learning, and my mum is not so well and I have no one else who could drive me there. I would walk if it were possible, but it is like 20 minutes with the car, you cant reach it by walking. I might go to another Adventmarkt though with my support worker, we talked about it that we will in December once, we planned St.Wolfgang once, but I dont know when, on weekends she turns off her phone, and is free. It would have to be a day during the week.

https://i.ibb.co/6vqX2yB/Mittelalter-Advent-Markt.jpg (https://ibb.co/7g0kHS4)

You know what I think about you residing where you do. There’s no need to comment on every wrong in detail that is ultimately caused by that. 👍

BakersfieldChimp
11-25-2023, 03:19 PM
There should be a one world language tbh.

They sort of tried this with "Esperanto".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto

It seemed mostly a universal language for diplomatic issues.
It didn't go anywhere.

#Oda#
11-25-2023, 04:24 PM
- Like the Stürmer is said to have been figuratively antisemitic pornography, the current opposite is then often semitophile pornography (figuratively). In this context fits the detected appreciation for Yiddish. IMO both Yiddish is embarrssing as a horribly corrupted German as well as Germans, now detecting Yiddish as a trendy object of love. If someone seriously deals with it for analysing some interesting linguistical contents, that's another story. It being a trend is based on the re-education, ofc. Btw. even to German Jews Yiddish was often felt embarrassing.

- "being reeducated from Nazism I consider a good thing for each individual and the whole world": Lol, sure, this is the content of re-education. Unfortunately the blind re-education has gone so far that there got lost the pride on the own people and a German head of the state (Joachim Gauck) stated that he never could relate to the term Germany in any positive way. This is insane and deeply disturbed.

You put too much into a very simple thing. I played this song from my childhood on, even not knowing that it was from a Jewish musical of the 30s for the most time. I don't choose music by ethnicity, but by quality, you know. Most bizarre to get upset in such a way by a piece of music with a single Yiddish sentence. Still not getting the pornography issue, but forget it. Simply lunatic.

It‘s possible to have pride without being a Nazi, imagine. Just stop pigeon-holing me, I dont fit in one of your plain "drawers".

Creoda
11-25-2023, 07:17 PM
That's not what the argument is about. It's quite the opposite. Creoda and rothaer find it disgusting and "off-putting" when non-natives speak "their" language. It apparently violates their ethno-cultural boundaries. And if I can sort of get it in the case of rothaer, the Australian is just a pure hypocrite.
Explain why I'm a hypocrite, uppity refugee.

Another reason why it's a pain to communicate in English with people like you is your poor comprehension. I never said it was off-putting when non-natives speak English, I said it was off-putting when non-whites spoke it with a local accent.

Vessna
11-26-2023, 02:00 AM
English
https://voca.ro/1iVstOntn5z0

Russian
https://voca.ro/15klF2QUSLsB

majevica
11-26-2023, 02:22 AM


You sound like 19

Vessna
11-26-2023, 02:34 AM
You sound like 19

I sound like a kid, I know. No wonder my own daughter won’t listen to me ;)

Mortimer
11-26-2023, 02:48 AM
Explain why I'm a hypocrite, uppity refugee.

Another reason why it's a pain to communicate in English with people like you is your poor comprehension. I never said it was off-putting when non-natives speak English, I said it was off-putting when non-whites spoke it with a local accent.

Please Mister, leave Vessna alone. I ask you on her behalf to leave the Lady alone. She is not a refugee, she is white american.

https://www.facebook.com/TaylorWatsonShow/videos/2069880893363573

Eurafricanid
11-26-2023, 02:54 AM
English
https://voca.ro/13pTSRhMJmEJ

Portuguese
https://voca.ro/1G1EyazcsnxD

Mopi Licinius Crassus
11-26-2023, 03:25 AM
[QUOTE=Vessna;7841345]/QUOTE]

you have a pleasant voice
you have an american accent when you speak english
what age did you move to the USA?

Vessna
11-26-2023, 03:28 AM
[QUOTE=Vessna;7841345]/QUOTE]

you have a pleasant voice
you have an american accent when you speak english
what age did you move to the USA?

Thanks Mopi.
I moved for college at 18.

Mopi Licinius Crassus
11-26-2023, 03:30 AM
[QUOTE=Mopi;7841372]

Thanks Mopi.
I moved for college at 18.

young enough that you were able to pick up the native accent :)

Mortimer
11-26-2023, 04:38 AM
English
https://voca.ro/1iVstOntn5z0

Russian
https://voca.ro/15klF2QUSLsB

You sound native in both languages. You sound very feminine and cute, yes like a girl, but that is cute and sexy.

Mortimer
11-26-2023, 08:33 AM
Trying country

https://voca.ro/1aTOitIah7WB

rothaer
11-26-2023, 09:58 AM
I sound like a kid, I know. No wonder my own daughter won’t listen to me ;)

You sound pleasant as expected. I was curious as for how the English language would sound after all.

And not like a kid. If you'd do, your daughter would likely listen more to you. ;) Because children are pretty much orientated at older siblings that are representative of the next steps of development that they are able to achieve.

nittionia
11-26-2023, 11:11 AM
English
https://voca.ro/1iVstOntn5z0

Russian
https://voca.ro/15klF2QUSLsB

I want you to read to me :D

Zeno
11-26-2023, 01:48 PM
Close to American accent with some Greek, I guess, but the audio is not clear.

Well, I guess the audio isn't clear. I think it was after many, many tries (because I still haven't figured out how to record without any parasites or heavy breathing noises, as I record close to the phone's speaker) and I was exhausted, so I couldn't speak that clearly.

Although, that's the first time anyone says to me that he/she detects a bit of Greek in my English.

Zeno
11-26-2023, 01:51 PM
...

You sound crazy different in each language. That's what I call adaptability.

Vessna
11-26-2023, 01:55 PM
You sound crazy different in each language. That's what I call adaptability.

Of course, the languages are very different :)
I am planning to record a message in Belarusian, would be curious to see what others think about that one.

Zeno
11-26-2023, 01:58 PM
If you mean it is an albeit indirect legacy of Empire, then yes. But in fact, Ireland and Portugal both had PMs of (partial) Indian descent before us. All the same, even in 1987 there were only four non-white MPs in all of Parliament, and for a long time after that it only grew very incrementally. This super multi-ethnic Parliament you see now is a barely decade-old phenomenon.

The "indirect legacy of the British Empire" spiel is bullshite.

Britons should be governed by Britons. Just like Indians want to be ruled by Indians, the same principle should be due in Britain. And in any other country.

Otherwise the "pesky conspiracy" of population replacement stops being conspiracies and is therefore a fact.

Zeno
11-26-2023, 02:00 PM
Of course, the languages are very different :)
I am planning to record a message in Belarusian, would be curious to see what others think about that one.

Ofc, I sound very different in Greek as well. If I figure out how I can successfully record a voice message on Vocaroo without being exhausted by trying to get a message devoid of parasites and therefore become exhausted I'll post in both of the languages I speak as well.

Incal
11-26-2023, 02:24 PM
I'll try to explain.

The main point is that I don't want any intrusion into my people (the biological reproduction community). Now, as for the German ethnictiy - it may be different regarding other ethnicities - it is essentially defined by traditionally being a native speaker of German. So this gives the language some weight. From this aspect I've no interest in incorporating others in the German native speakers community.

Now, this aspect is not violated when non-Germans learn some German as a foreign language. Because they would then not become confused for a native speaker. But if it goes much further - and this will realistically apply to residing in Germany non-Germans - then this aspect will become violated.

What as a consequence then exactly should be wished for will be a matter of consideration.

Your argument is somehow valid when it comes to Germany or Europe in general but it's senseless in the new world.

Zeno
11-26-2023, 02:52 PM
In Greek:

https://voca.ro/1f5PJugLEj23

In English:

https://voca.ro/19fXLk0Add8r

If it sounds a bit off, not my fault, for some reason it cannot record a message without parasites.

P.S. I cringe hearing at my own voice, sounds a bit shrieky

rothaer
11-26-2023, 03:50 PM
Your argument is somehow valid when it comes to Germany or Europe in general but it's senseless in the new world.

Fully agreed. (Except for maybe if you refer to some Native American remnants.)

Zeno
11-26-2023, 03:53 PM
He obviously doesn't care for "external power expression" but knows that foreigners will more easily mix with Germans and be accepted by them if they speak their language and he doesn't want that.

That's the case with Greeks.

Btw, Feiichy, glad you're back. I hope you're ok

#Oda#
11-26-2023, 05:42 PM
Unfortunately the blind re-education has gone so far that there got lost the pride on the own people and a German head of the state (Joachim Gauck) stated that he never could relate to the term Germany in any positive way. This is insane and deeply disturbed.

That was out of the context and of course immediately utilized. He spoke in present tense, but refered to the 40s and 50s ONLY. So I highly doubt the "never".

Rumata
11-27-2023, 06:02 AM
Of course, the languages are very different :)
I am planning to record a message in Belarusian, would be curious to see what others think about that one.

Shanovna Vessna, I'm looking forward to listen to your Belarusian speech.



Russian
https://voca.ro/15klF2QUSLsB

There's no accent in this speech, but there are some intonations which are common in modern West and which unfortunately spread to other countries too so some people imitate them even here.

Mortimer
11-27-2023, 06:12 AM
German

https://voca.ro/1in1kx1wHc6D

Serbian

https://voca.ro/11v0tn1Rnm6b

Hungarian
https://voca.ro/14Pe7GY8r2Y4

Salty Ears
11-27-2023, 01:09 PM
My english is rather good for typical russian speaker.

And influence of
Russian => North russian dialects => North-East Russian dialects => Vyatka dialects => Upper Kama dialect (so called Uralic pronounce typical for Perm, Yekaterinburg regions)

Vessna
11-27-2023, 11:42 PM
My english is rather good for typical russian speaker.

And influence of
Russian => North russian dialects => North-East Russian dialects => Vyatka dialects => Upper Kama dialect (so called Uralic pronounce typical for Perm, Yekaterinburg regions)

As a fellow Russian speaker, I am curious to hear you speak both Russian and English. Uralic accent is a bit different from Central and South Russian accents, it'd be interesting to hear.

Dick
11-28-2023, 12:45 AM
English
https://voca.ro/1iVstOntn5z0

Russian
https://voca.ro/15klF2QUSLsB

Where have you been all of my internet life

Salty Ears
11-28-2023, 03:14 AM
As a fellow Russian speaker, I am curious to hear you speak both Russian and English. Uralic accent is a bit different from Central and South Russian accents, it'd be interesting to hear.

I have a good English pronunciation, but problems with grammar, because I haven't taken lessons for a long time, and watching videos in English helps in colloquial, but does not replace the base. I also often have the word order in sentences in the Russian manner. If in Russian it gives other meanings and emotions, then in English it's just strange.

North russian milk - mOlOkO
Central/southern - mAlAko
Ural milk - MYLYKo))

Vessna
11-28-2023, 04:32 AM
https://voca.ro/1oeg6IgC9K4Q

You have an Eastern European accent.
You sound upset. I hope you’ll feel better.

Ugo
11-28-2023, 06:12 AM
Of course, the languages are very different :)
I am planning to record a message in Belarusian, would be curious to see what others think about that one.

You speak Russian very well with a slight English accent. It would be interesting to listen to your Belarusian language.

Ugo
11-28-2023, 06:19 AM
https://voca.ro/1oeg6IgC9K4Q
I've changed my mind about offending you. I'll just say that the voice is very depressing and gloomy. After listening to this, I want to hang myself.

Vessna
11-28-2023, 06:28 AM
You speak Russian very well with a slight English accent. It would be interesting to listen to your Belarusian language.

Russian is my native language. I don’t have an English accent.

rothaer
11-28-2023, 06:51 AM
Russian is my native language. I don’t have an English accent.

You may be surprised one day. Both from emigrated to the US from Sweden and Germany people is known to me personally that there sometimes shows up an accent after some decades, likely dependent on the individual and its lanugage practices. On the other hand you have people that have been abroad 50 years and that don't get an accent.

Vessna
11-28-2023, 06:54 AM
You may be surprised one day. Both from emigrated to the US from Sweden and Germany people is known to me personally that there sometimes shows up an accent after some decades, likely dependent on the individual and its lanugage practices. On the other hand you have people that have been abroad 50 years and that don't get an accent.

Read what Rumata thinks about my Russian.
Vjatych is just trying to be smart.

rothaer
11-28-2023, 07:28 AM
English:

https://voca.ro/17IFut8noQKS

German:

https://voca.ro/11jJvCNiS7UD

Swedish:

https://voca.ro/1lIu25t2wWMb

Norwegian (-like):

https://voca.ro/1nf59tCnc5l3

Spanish:

https://voca.ro/1bH1kdQwmhrY

Polish:

https://voca.ro/1kUilBF7QhRe

Ugo
11-28-2023, 07:48 AM
I pretty much had to overcome myself for this.

English:

https://voca.ro/17IFut8noQKS

German:

https://voca.ro/11jJvCNiS7UD

Swedish:

https://voca.ro/1lIu25t2wWMb

Norwegian (-like):

https://voca.ro/1nf59tCnc5l3

Spanish:

https://voca.ro/1bH1kdQwmhrY

Polish:

https://voca.ro/1kUilBF7QhRe

You don't know how to say the letter "r". You're burbling like all Germans.

rothaer
11-28-2023, 07:56 AM
You don't know how to say the letter "r". You're burbling like all Germans.

Maybe you can help and show how it's correct. :halo:

Abti
11-28-2023, 08:05 AM
https://voca.ro/157l1Qt8NOOQ

Ugo
11-28-2023, 09:14 AM
https://voca.ro/157l1Qt8NOOQ
Negroid accent. It's obvious that you have prognantism - protrusion of the alveolar arch of the upper jaw

Scarface F
11-28-2023, 09:19 AM
I've changed my mind about offending you. I'll just say that the voice is very depressing and gloomy. After listening to this, I want to hang myself.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dZj7YW5oFQ

Abti
11-28-2023, 09:21 AM
Negroid accent. It's obvious that you have prognantism - protrusion of the alveolar arch of the upper jaw

Post yours mr perfect.

Scarface F
11-28-2023, 09:23 AM
https://voca.ro/157l1Qt8NOOQ

Very pleasant voice. You sound American, with somewhat filmic vibe.

Ugo
11-28-2023, 09:23 AM
Post yours mr perfect.

I don't speak English. What's the point of posting only Russian and Mongolian?

Ugo
11-28-2023, 09:27 AM
Very pleasant voice. You sound American, with somewhat filmic vibe.

Yesterday you liked the Insuperable cock. You like Abti's voice today. Congratulations. Cool choice!

Scarface F
11-28-2023, 09:29 AM
English:

https://voca.ro/17IFut8noQKS

German:

https://voca.ro/11jJvCNiS7UD

Swedish:

https://voca.ro/1lIu25t2wWMb

Norwegian (-like):

https://voca.ro/1nf59tCnc5l3

Spanish:

https://voca.ro/1bH1kdQwmhrY

Polish:

https://voca.ro/1kUilBF7QhRe

lol, how come your Polish sounds so convincing?! I know for Swedish, but this is interesting. Slavic genes much?
I'm native Slavic speaker and I could never speak Polish like that.

Scarface F
11-28-2023, 09:29 AM
Yesterday you liked the Insuperable cock. You like Abti's voice today. Congratulations. Cool choice!

He has really nice voice and sounds from some film. What's your problem? Post your Russian.

Scarface F
11-28-2023, 09:30 AM
In Greek:

https://voca.ro/1f5PJugLEj23

In English:

https://voca.ro/19fXLk0Add8r

If it sounds a bit off, not my fault, for some reason it cannot record a message without parasites.

P.S. I cringe hearing at my own voice, sounds a bit shrieky

Really good English that doesn't sound very "immigrant"

Scarface F
11-28-2023, 09:32 AM
English
https://voca.ro/13pTSRhMJmEJ

Portuguese
https://voca.ro/1G1EyazcsnxD

Very distinct and unique sounding voice.

Scarface F
11-28-2023, 09:34 AM
English
https://voca.ro/1iVstOntn5z0

Russian
https://voca.ro/15klF2QUSLsB

Very feminine voice, like a Slavic fairy :p I can't detect any accent in your English. Sound completely American.

Victor
11-28-2023, 09:54 AM
English
https://voca.ro/1iVstOntn5z0

Russian
https://voca.ro/15klF2QUSLsB

Yep, now I see that Russian is your mother tongue with some influence of English-speaking society (intonations, for example).

Victor
11-28-2023, 09:59 AM
English
https://voca.ro/14s34Gxnsyrg

Serbian
https://voca.ro/14BqJG9zf7FA

Scarface F
11-28-2023, 10:01 AM
https://voca.ro/14s34Gxnsyrg

Interesting, you can pass for south Slav with this English accent xD Usually I think Russians have different English accent than we do, but this sounds familiar.

Victor
11-28-2023, 10:02 AM
Interesting, you can pass for south Slav with this English accent xD Usually I think Russians have different English accent than we do, but this sounds familiar.

I've added Serbian, updated the message.

Victor
11-28-2023, 10:03 AM
Interesting, you can pass for south Slav with this English accent xD Usually I think Russians have different English accent than we do, but this sounds familiar.

Yea, regular English accent for 90% of Russians is different.

Scarface F
11-28-2023, 10:06 AM
zvučiš kao Srbin xD

Ugo
11-28-2023, 10:15 AM
The topic suddenly became very boring

Victor
11-28-2023, 10:15 AM
zvučiš kao Srbin xD

I have a conclusion that my vocal Russian language is influenced since childhood by life in South of Ukraine, where people around me spoke Russian, but not with a standard Moscow accent (softer one), it sounds harder and unlike Moscow has Akanje, they have more Okanje. I speak regular Russian in everyday life, but I guess the years down there helped me to switch to harder sounding language. Now my accent in Serbian is softer than when I'm in Serbia, I usually need like a month to adapt.

Ugo
11-28-2023, 10:19 AM
:bored:

Rostos vilmoskörte
11-28-2023, 10:23 AM
:bored:

Share your own if the thread is boring

Scarface F
11-28-2023, 10:39 AM
Croatian:

https://voca.ro/1EPo98zUAWaS

Ugo
11-28-2023, 10:49 AM
Share your own if the thread is boring

The topic was fun until Victor and Jana appeared

Victor
11-28-2023, 11:13 AM
Croatian:

https://voca.ro/1EPo98zUAWaS

Your accent sounds as very clean type of Serb-Cro.

https://voca.ro/1onHhsC7Spnv

Victor
11-28-2023, 11:18 AM
The topic was fun until Victor and Jana appeared

shit happens

Scarface F
11-28-2023, 11:28 AM
Your accent sounds as very clean type of Serb-Cro.

https://voca.ro/1onHhsC7Spnv

In my city (Rijeka) we speak generic standard Croatian. And yes, I totally can see why somebody would think you are Macedonian :p You really sound like a Serb/Balkanite, but there is very slight softish sound that really sounds Macedonian.

Don't know if you are aware, but Štokavian or standard Serbo-Croatian is one of most conservative Slavic languages (especially Croatian variant), yet it has quite non Slavic-sound like Latin - being very clear and not soft.

Etelfrido
11-28-2023, 11:37 AM
Norwegian (-like):

https://voca.ro/1nf59tCnc5l3

I had forgotten how sing-songy Norwegian sounds.

And it's a real pity you didn't adventure yourself with Portuguese. :(

Far_away
11-28-2023, 11:42 AM
English
https://voca.ro/14s34Gxnsyrg

Serbian
https://voca.ro/14BqJG9zf7FA

https://voca.ro/17JlCeBbR07E

rothaer
11-28-2023, 12:08 PM
lol, how come your Polish sounds so convincing?! I know for Swedish, but this is interesting. Slavic genes much?
I'm native Slavic speaker and I could never speak Polish like that.

Too much questionable company, I'm afraid. :p I'd become more fluent with sto gram. Or "dwieset" gram. ;) So it's not really about much knowledge tbh.

Vessna
11-28-2023, 12:16 PM
English
https://voca.ro/14s34Gxnsyrg

Serbian
https://voca.ro/14BqJG9zf7FA

Your English is actually pretty good. You have an accent but it’s not strong.

Victor
11-28-2023, 12:20 PM
https://voca.ro/17JlCeBbR07E

Navijam za Spartak vec skoro 30 godina pa mi smo braca sa Delijama vec 20 godina skoro. Moja ekipa u 2007. upoznala je Delije iz Rume i tako sam prvi put dosao u Srbiju. Neke stvare se ne menjaju, nisam navijac vec vise godina nego nema sanse da navijam za bilo koji tim osim Zvezde kod vas. Naravno znam dosta Grobara, nego kazem, sada druzim sa ljudima kao ljudima, ne navijacima, ipak puno mi je ostalo drugara i dobrih prijatelja iz onog starog doba zivota.

majevica
11-28-2023, 12:32 PM
English
https://voca.ro/15bnphg8e1CG

Serbian
https://voca.ro/1giAfm2VQ9DS

German
https://voca.ro/12Ht1idlaVDs

Spanish
https://vocaroo.com/1dwKrOPve6nL

Russian (I tried)
https://voca.ro/14N8lVPKC7WE

Victor
11-28-2023, 12:35 PM
English
https://voca.ro/15bnphg8e1CG

Serbian
https://voca.ro/1giAfm2VQ9DS

German
https://voca.ro/12Ht1idlaVDs

Spanish
https://vocaroo.com/1dwKrOPve6nL

Russian (I tried)
https://voca.ro/14N8lVPKC7WE

Your Bosnian Serb accent is the best. Russian sounds just like most of Serbs speak it and you do it well. Your English sounds similar to mine just you seem to have more vocal practice.

Victor
11-28-2023, 12:37 PM
Vessna's Russian in 2053 (just kidding):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITXVIK8KZuI

Ugo
11-28-2023, 12:44 PM
Too much questionable company, I'm afraid. :p I'd become more fluent with sto gram. Or "dwieset" gram. ;) So it's not really about much knowledge tbh.

I've always been interested. Does the Germans have a sore throat when they pronounce the "r" sound? I studied German at university. There was a special course, for a whole year we studied German 6 days a week for seven to eight hours. After class, I had a very sore throat because of the letter r. This letter should be pronounced by the throat. It's excruciatingly painful.

Abti
11-28-2023, 12:46 PM
I've always been interested. Does the Germans have a sore throat when they pronounce the "r" sound? I studied German at university. There was a special course, for a whole year we studied German 6 days a week for seven to eight hours. After class, I had a very sore throat because of the letter r. This letter should be pronounced by the throat. It's excruciatingly painful.

Are you sure they didn’t stuff a bratwurst down your throat when you studied there?

Ugo
11-28-2023, 12:53 PM
Are you sure they didn’t stuff a bratwurst down your throat when you studied there?

The Negro has his own version)

rothaer
11-28-2023, 01:06 PM
I've always been interested. Does the Germans have a sore throat when they pronounce the "r" sound? I studied German at university. There was a special course, for a whole year we studied German 6 days a week for seven to eight hours. After class, I had a very sore throat because of the letter r. This letter should be pronounced by the throat. It's excruciatingly painful.

Yes, it's mostly pronounced that way in German (with some exceptions in singing). Btw. they have the same "r" in French, f. i. when you say "France". To the native speakers, however, this causes no throat problems. But it would be an interesting question if there is any physical difference between a throat of someone permanently speaking such a langauge and someone with a "virgin" throat.

nittionia
11-28-2023, 01:07 PM
virgin throat

rothaer
11-28-2023, 01:13 PM
Are you sure they didn’t stuff a bratwurst down your throat when you studied there?

Which could be spelled bRatwuRst for clarification. ;)

rothaer
11-28-2023, 01:14 PM
virgin throat

I know that you have one, Nini. :cool:

nittionia
11-28-2023, 01:19 PM
I know that you have one, Nini. :cool:

https://media0.giphy.com/media/oNr6IBi0Hnnnq/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47rzsivw3j69wyt1ck6smda6hcqkcd y7k04cth8r8f&ep=v1_gifs_related&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

Ugo
11-28-2023, 01:23 PM
All topics on the forum end with group sex. I will not participate in this.

Scarface F
11-28-2023, 01:29 PM
English
https://voca.ro/15bnphg8e1CG

Serbian
https://voca.ro/1giAfm2VQ9DS

German
https://voca.ro/12Ht1idlaVDs

Spanish
https://vocaroo.com/1dwKrOPve6nL

Russian (I tried)
https://voca.ro/14N8lVPKC7WE

You have very sweet voice and sound really young, almost like a boy :D
Yes, your German is perfect.

rothaer
11-28-2023, 01:33 PM
All topics on the forum end with group sex. I will not participate in this.

Even the hitherto prude Dr. Nittio P. Nia breaks open-minded:


https://media0.giphy.com/media/oNr6IBi0Hnnnq/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47rzsivw3j69wyt1ck6smda6hcqkcd y7k04cth8r8f&ep=v1_gifs_related&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

Who knows what Insuperable eventually evoked?

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
11-28-2023, 01:34 PM
https://voca.ro/1a947XKNOMxM

Ugo
11-28-2023, 01:40 PM
Who knows what Insuperable eventually evoked?
I began to respect him. An extraordinary dude. Blew up the forum. The main thing is that Yana liked it.

nittionia
11-28-2023, 01:44 PM
Even the hitherto prude Dr. Nittio P. Nia breaks open-minded:



Who knows what Insuperable eventually evoked?

I'm wearing two layers of clothes today after that event

Ugo
11-28-2023, 01:44 PM
https://voca.ro/1a947XKNOMxM

Thank you))) ahaha. We will definitely have a drink with you)

Eurafricanid
11-28-2023, 02:01 PM
Negroid accent. It's obvious that you have prognantism - protrusion of the alveolar arch of the upper jaw

Interesting analysis, do you think I sound like I have prognathism, too? I'm ~50% Negroid.

English
https://voca.ro/13pTSRhMJmEJ

Portuguese
https://voca.ro/1G1EyazcsnxD

Ugo
11-28-2023, 02:08 PM
Interesting analysis, do you think I sound like I have prognathism, too? I'm ~50% Negroid.
Yes, we hear it. Speech is different from white speech. It's like you've just learned to speak, and you don't have enough speech capabilities.

Eurafricanid
11-28-2023, 02:08 PM
Yes, we hear it. Speech is different from white speech. It's like you've just learned to speak, and you don't have enough speech capabilities.

Love it! ;)

Etelfrido
11-28-2023, 02:16 PM
...
Aren't you a Northeasterner? I couldn't detect a Northeastern accent on you, you even pronounce "Português" like a Southerner, i.e. without a diphthong.

Eurafricanid
11-28-2023, 02:45 PM
Aren't you a Northeasterner? I couldn't detect a Northeastern accent on you, you even pronounce "Português" like a Southerner, i.e. without a diphthong.

I've heard it again to hear the diphthong you said and there is a diphthong in ê, it sounds like êâ Portuguêâs, but to respond you question, yes I am a northeasterner, my mom's whole family is from Bahia, descendants of African slaves, but I didn't have much influence from that accent while growing up.
If you're talking about the virtual diphthong as in Portuguêis that's not exclusive to Northeasterners.

Etelfrido
11-28-2023, 03:06 PM
I've heard it again to hear the diphthong you said and there is a diphthong in ê, it sounds like êâ Portuguêâs, but to respond you question, yes I am a northeasterner, my mom's whole family is from Bahia, descendants of African slaves, but I didn't have much influence from that accent while growing up.
If you're talking about the virtual diphthong as in Portuguêis that's not exclusive to Northeasterners.
The "ei" diphthong isn't exclusive to the Northeast indeed, it's common throughout the whole country but its absence is more prevalent in the extreme South AFAIK.

Eurafricanid
11-28-2023, 03:25 PM
The "ei" diphthong isn't exclusive to the Northeast indeed, it's common throughout the whole country but its absence is more prevalent in the extreme South AFAIK.

They don't sound like me, since in my accent I've seemed to replace the ei with ea, but in Minas Gerais, they pronounce the e without any diphthong, and, from what I've seen that pronunciation is carried up north too, but I could be wrong on that.

Ugo
11-28-2023, 07:32 PM
Для Вити
.....

Victor
11-28-2023, 07:42 PM
Для Вити
https://voca.ro/1kJY9Fkwzago

xD

https://voca.ro/1hgzO7iD6meG

Example of my Russian

Ugo
11-28-2023, 07:44 PM
xD

https://voca.ro/1hgzO7iD6meG

Example of my Russian

https://voca.ro/1lAfG27cdC8T

Victor
11-28-2023, 07:46 PM
https://voca.ro/1lAfG27cdC8T

Dude, I'm not gonna chat with you this way.

upd Just listened to your message, well, if you're going to Stavropol you can message me, no problem, what to drink can be decided on place. The only condition from my side would be a photo together which will be uploaded to the Apricity.

Ugo
11-28-2023, 07:48 PM
This Vitya! He's terrible!

Victor
11-28-2023, 07:49 PM
This Vitya! He's terrible!

I've updated the message b4

Ugo
11-28-2023, 07:50 PM
Dude, I'm not gonna chat with you this way.

upd Just listened to your message, well, if you're going to Stavropol you can message me, no problem, what to drink can be decided on place. The only condition from my side would be a photo together which will be uploaded to the Apricity.
You're still a nerd, ok. I'll come. I'll let you know when. Throw the address in a personal account.

Victor
11-28-2023, 07:55 PM
You're still a nerd, ok. I'll come. I'll let you know when. Throw the address in a personal account.

Message me in advance, for example during the winter holidays I will be in Abkhazia.

Ugo
11-28-2023, 07:58 PM
Message me in advance, for example during the winter holidays I will be in Abkhazia.
https://voca.ro/11BkI1tJf0Tq

Ugo
11-28-2023, 08:01 PM
Vitya pisses with me to a meeting) so that he doesn't write - I like you, guy. I will come with my family to your wedding )

Victor
11-28-2023, 08:01 PM
https://voca.ro/11BkI1tJf0Tq

Ты сам с собой "воюешь", со своими же утверждениями. Я с тобой встречаться желания не высказывал изначально и на встречу не напрашивался, особенно куда-то ехать к тебе. За твой отдых в Португалии я рад.

Victor
11-28-2023, 08:04 PM
Vitya pisses with me to a meeting) so that he doesn't write - I like you, guy. I will come with my family to your wedding )

The problem is that you act bipolar, everything is a joke for you and none can recognize the border. I've normally met people from online and I will probably meet some the Apricity members in near future. One person says he's gonna like to meet the other, other agrees and they meet. In your World it's a complicated postironic trick. I highly doubt you're an alcoholic by the way, most probably you've taken such kind of "role" in this forum.

Ugo
11-28-2023, 08:07 PM
Ты сам с собой "воюешь", со своими же утверждениями. Я с тобой встречаться желания не высказывал изначально и на встречу не напрашивался, особенно куда-то ехать к тебе. За твой отдых в Португалии я рад.
Few understood us) but my voice was heard.

Ugo
11-28-2023, 08:18 PM
The problem is that you act bipolar, everything is a joke for you and none can recognize the border. I've normally met people from online and I will probably meet some the Apricity members in near future. One person says he's gonna like to meet the other, other agrees and they meet. In your World it's a complicated postironic trick. I highly doubt you're an alcoholic by the way, most probably you've taken such kind of "role" in this forum.
I don't have any role. I have fun and make people laugh.

Ugo
11-28-2023, 08:28 PM
Everyone here is so serious) everyone has good voices, but very serious)

Zohor
11-28-2023, 09:17 PM
Everyone here is so serious) everyone has good voices, but very serious)

https://vocaroo.com/1jJ2ictCteju

Vessna
11-28-2023, 09:21 PM
Vessna's Russian in 2053 (just kidding):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITXVIK8KZuI

Lol this is classic runglish. I have to admit, I am guilty of it sometimes. This video is gold btw

Ugo
11-28-2023, 09:28 PM
https://vocaroo.com/1jJ2ictCteju
Я нихуя не понял)

Zohor
11-28-2023, 09:30 PM
Я нихуя не понял)

ok ok, basically i told it's the only way to judge their accents when they sound neutral, hence this is the reason most of them sound serious

Ugo
11-28-2023, 09:31 PM
https://vocaroo.com/1jJ2ictCteju

But I became your fan. Thank you for the Russian language.

Vessna
11-28-2023, 09:33 PM
Я нихуя не понял)

Your Russian comprehension is clearly lacking. I understood everything.

Ugo
11-28-2023, 09:36 PM
Your Russian comprehension is clearly lacking. I understood everything.
Yes, my Russian is very bad.

Zohor
11-28-2023, 09:38 PM
Your Russian comprehension is clearly lacking. I understood everything.

Since your Belarusian you are able to understand Polish mumbling in Russian, unlike natives

Ugo
11-28-2023, 09:44 PM
Since your Belarusian you are able to understand Polish mumbling in Russian, unlike natives
I just realized that you're gay... By the voice. It's mawkish and feminine.I want to fuck you, come to me, Polish mumbling

Zohor
11-28-2023, 09:46 PM
I just realized that you're gay... By the voice. It's mawkish and feminine.

i'm not, but think what you want, i don't care

Ugo
11-28-2023, 09:52 PM
i'm not, but think what you want, i don't care

We should be together. Do you like me? You're so feminine

KirillMazur
11-28-2023, 09:55 PM
English
https://voca.ro/

Russian
https://voca.ro/
Beautiful, fresh and youthful voice.

[URL="https://vocaroo.com/
That case when I imagined your voice to be completely different (relative to your appearance).

Zohor
11-28-2023, 10:00 PM
That case when I imagined your voice to be completely different (relative to your appearance).

What have you imagined? I may make it sound lower but yeah my natural voice is very feminine, when I worked for a week in a call center I was mostly called out as Miss even tho I introduced myself, so yeah it is what it is

Ugo
11-28-2023, 10:04 PM
What have you imagined? I may make it sound lower but yeah my natural voice is very feminine, when I worked for a week in a call center I was mostly called out as Miss even tho I introduced myself, so yeah it is what it is

There's nothing wrong with your voice. Don't be an idiot and don't say that.

Vessna
11-28-2023, 10:04 PM
I just realized that you're gay... By the voice. It's mawkish and feminine.I want to fuck you, come to me, Polish mumbling

This thread is getting weird. What’s up with the homo stuff Vjatych I thought you were straight.

KirillMazur
11-28-2023, 10:07 PM
Yes, my song (in English) is still alive:). (Stone Roses - Heart of Stone)
Please, rate my accent in English.

https://voca.ro/bTUfXjPw8LN

What have you imagined? I may make it sound lower but yeah my natural voice is very feminine, when I worked for a week in a call center I was mostly called out as Miss even tho I introduced myself, so yeah it is what it is
I imagined a rougher voice, which would definitely be difficult to confuse with a woman’s.
Slavic men are generally (or become with age) unfeminine.

In any case, each person, seeing a photo of a colleague in text communication, in the mind's eye, according to his life experience, tries to endow this photo with a voice suitable for this person.

https://voca.ro/
The microphone caught you not in the best moments of your life, definitely.

Zohor
11-28-2023, 10:07 PM
There's nothing wrong with your voice. Don't be an idiot and don't say that.

I don't say there is something wrong, I just get such opinion quite often so I like to know each case why is that happening just to understand that, nothing more

Cybele
11-28-2023, 10:11 PM
https://vocaroo.com/1jJ2ictCteju

Your voice is soothing. :)

Ugo
11-28-2023, 10:13 PM
I don't say there is something wrong, I just get such opinion quite often so I like to know each case why is that happening just to understand that, nothing more
I don't like my voice. I do not know how others hear it. He is clearly not attractive to women. But I don't give a shit. Dude, your voice is normal, the intonation is not very good. You and I have bad voices) let's make our voices fashionable?