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ModernMaskil
06-18-2019, 08:27 PM
This is by far the most autistic, apricity-like thing I have ever done but I am interested in seeing others if anyone is willing to spend the time to do it, and their results. The tool, for anyone who's not familiar: https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm

Here's mine:
http://i67.tinypic.com/24yqyqr.png

Nurzat
06-18-2019, 08:28 PM
would be nice to see also the dot of the overall position to see how they gravitate on that

ModernMaskil
06-18-2019, 08:29 PM
would be nice to see also the dot of the overall position to see how they gravitate on that

I'll see if I can edit that in. It's slightly northward of "South Italian".

ModernMaskil
06-18-2019, 08:39 PM
I edited in the final autosomal plot.

Lemgrant
06-18-2019, 08:39 PM
Yes I have done that in the past.

https://i.imgur.com/ARe5w5Z.png


I have also plotted my first 50 matches on Gedmatch:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7857/46572301205_a35bf38ec7_o.png

ModernMaskil
06-18-2019, 08:42 PM
Yes I have done that in the past.

https://i.imgur.com/ARe5w5Z.png


I have also plotted my first 50 matches on Gedmatch:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7857/46572301205_a35bf38ec7_o.png


Cool. Thanks for sharing!

karakartal
06-18-2019, 08:42 PM
Could you please do it for me?

Population
North_Sea 14.85 Pct
Atlantic 3.86 Pct
Baltic 15.74 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.82 Pct
West_Med 13.03 Pct
West_Asian 14.01 Pct
East_Med 21.92 Pct
Red_Sea 1.76 Pct
South_Asian 3.08 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.38 Pct
Siberian 1.79 Pct
Amerindian 0.76 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Adamm
06-18-2019, 08:46 PM
https://i.imgur.com/CoYFGoR.png

ModernMaskil
06-18-2019, 08:48 PM
Could you please do it for me?

Population
North_Sea 14.85 Pct
Atlantic 3.86 Pct
Baltic 15.74 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.82 Pct
West_Med 13.03 Pct
West_Asian 14.01 Pct
East_Med 21.92 Pct
Red_Sea 1.76 Pct
South_Asian 3.08 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.38 Pct
Siberian 1.79 Pct
Amerindian 0.76 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

No, sorry. This takes ridiculously long. Hours.
If you've not had a standard plotting done for you, you can request it over on the 2019 PCA Thread and I'll get round to it if nobody else does.

karakartal
06-18-2019, 08:49 PM
No, sorry. This takes ridiculously long. Hours.
If you've not had a standard plotting done for you, you can request it over on the 2019 PCA Thread and I'll get round to it if nobody else does.

Thanks man. How do you look my chromosome results?

ModernMaskil
06-18-2019, 08:49 PM
https://i.imgur.com/CoYFGoR.png

This thread is specifically for plotting of chromosomes, not the overall sum. You can see my name is on there too, in the same spot my sum here is.

ModernMaskil
06-18-2019, 08:53 PM
Thanks man. How do you look my chromosome results?

In the Gedmatch Admixture page where you select a project (Eurogenes, Dodecad, puntDNAL, etc), instead of clicking on the default "Admixture Proportions (With link to Oracle)", click on "Admixture Proportions by Chromosome". Make sure to pick Eurogenes K15 in the next page if you're planning on doing this.

Dušan
06-18-2019, 09:01 PM
Red dot - my position in K15 calculator

Green dot - arithmetic average of my chromosome values.

https://i.imgur.com/Bem7hSA.png

Nurzat
06-18-2019, 09:47 PM
looking at this dad's probably more northwestern shifted than I thought and mom more eastern shifted

https://i.ibb.co/SySG7N6/k15-chr-map-detail.png

firemonkey
06-18-2019, 09:56 PM
Due to probable dyspraxia I find it difficult to plot myself on the map. Could someone please plot me on the map?

X= 263
Y= 137

Dušan
06-18-2019, 10:11 PM
Due to probable dyspraxia I find it difficult to plot myself on the map. Could someone please plot me on the map?

X= 263
Y= 137

Red dot:

https://i.imgur.com/Yg5IjsF.png

firemonkey
06-18-2019, 10:36 PM
^ Thank you.

Pine
06-18-2019, 10:59 PM
https://i.imgur.com/oUuYouF.png

Seya
06-18-2019, 11:31 PM
my mom

https://i.imgur.com/XaUYtYY.png

Lemgrant
06-18-2019, 11:40 PM
+ Mother's chromosomes

https://i.imgur.com/fLFUqxV.png

Seya
06-19-2019, 12:21 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Zktx2bw.jpg
i started mine in black but lost my patience :lol:

firemonkey
06-19-2019, 07:16 AM
Could someone please plot these on the map. From Chr 1 to Chr 22.


315 136
458 201
225 158
235 112
189 132
514 218
237 143
315 282
148 118
336 142
304 162
411 160
262 114
422 136
340 83
303 151
382 160
353 165
253 120
260 154
217 73
195 112

Aspar
06-19-2019, 09:17 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/hjCSyXF6/chromosome-map1.png (https://postimages.org/)

The black dot is my overall plot on the map.

Compare this with Tolan K54 chromosome mapping calculator:

https://i.postimg.cc/1z7mMg1T/Tolan-K54-chromosome-map.png (https://postimages.org/)

Sp_loa
06-19-2019, 09:42 AM
Mine


https://i.ibb.co/Gktx4M8/IMG-0610.png


Maternal grandmother:

https://i.ibb.co/YWZ1Z7P/IMG-0612.png


Just strengthen what I already assumed- my huge trunk of North African (chrom 17) isn't from my grandmother.

Lemgrant
06-19-2019, 11:40 AM
+ Mother's chromosomes

https://i.imgur.com/fLFUqxV.png
+
I tried the same with original 23andme V5 raw data file. The difference is big. The previous one was with converted from V5 to V3 raw data file after imputation (https://dna.land/impute-info).

https://i.imgur.com/0PWwmBv.png

Sp_loa
06-19-2019, 11:48 AM
+
I tried the same with original 23andme V5 raw data file. The difference is big. The previous one was with converted from V5 to V3 raw data file after imputation (https://dna.land/impute-info).

https://i.imgur.com/0PWwmBv.png

Who do you think is more accurate. I did my grandmother’s with converted v5 to v3 and I’d like to know it it is more accurate this way or not.

Lemgrant
06-19-2019, 12:11 PM
Who do you think is more accurate. I did my grandmother’s with converted v5 to v3 and I’d like to know it it is more accurate this way or not.

on 23andme, her 3rd chromosome is 80% Greek & Balkan, 18th chromosome entirely Greek & Balkan, 14th chromosome 60% Greek & Balkan, 21st chromosome 80% Greek & Balkan, 4th chromosome 13% Broadly Southern European.

So with original V5 looks more accurate, although there is no exact correlation with 23andme.

edit: actually on 23andme chromosomes come in pairs of two. The percentages are for the half of the whole.

ph2ter
06-19-2019, 12:49 PM
My:

http://i66.tinypic.com/33awl93.jpg

War Chef
06-19-2019, 05:59 PM
Mine:

https://i.imgur.com/80h8b78.png

firemonkey
06-19-2019, 06:08 PM
https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/genealogy/Firemonkey%20chromosome%20K15.png


Thank you ph2ter.

dududud
06-19-2019, 06:12 PM
My father:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/930x508q90/r/922/w707Gz.png

Me:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/729x543q90/r/921/fhfs5y.png

War Chef
06-19-2019, 06:15 PM
Why do chromosomes recombine in such a strange way?

One of my chromosomes is 48 % North Sea and 8 % Southeast Asian. Impossible mix.

ph2ter
06-19-2019, 06:20 PM
My:

http://i66.tinypic.com/33awl93.jpg

And this in my K15 PCA looks like this:

http://i65.tinypic.com/5d75ky.png

And K13 PCA:

http://i63.tinypic.com/ilc209.png

Pine
06-20-2019, 03:15 AM
And this in my K15 PCA looks like this:

http://i65.tinypic.com/5d75ky.png

And K13 PCA:

http://i63.tinypic.com/ilc209.png

How did you get those?

Rĉdwald
06-20-2019, 04:09 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/GhqcN1fc/plot.png

ph2ter
06-20-2019, 09:33 AM
How did you get those?

From my set of Apricity and Anthrogenica user's K13 and K15 values (1000-1500 users of European descent).

Pine
06-20-2019, 11:22 AM
From my set of Apricity and Anthrogenica user's K13 and K15 values (1000-1500 users of European descent).

Mind plotting me on that? Would appreciate it.

Pine
06-20-2019, 11:23 AM
From my set of Apricity and Anthrogenica user's K13 and K15 values (1000-1500 users of European descent).

Mind plotting me on that? Would appreciate it.

ph2ter
06-20-2019, 01:05 PM
Mind plotting me on that? Would appreciate it.

Just give me your values, but they should be unsorted.

karakartal
06-20-2019, 01:44 PM
From my set of Apricity and Anthrogenica user's K13 and K15 values (1000-1500 users of European descent).

Could you please plotting my father for your K13 plot?

Population
North_Atlantic 13.25 Pct
Baltic 21.55 Pct
West_Med 16.35 Pct
West_Asian 15.58 Pct
East_Med 23.55 Pct
Red_Sea 1.84 Pct
South_Asian 3.11 Pct
East_Asian 1.56 Pct
Siberian 2.17 Pct
Amerindian 1.01 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Gallop
06-20-2019, 03:26 PM
These are my results. Somebody would be so nice to get me the document. Thank you.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FBDjfiGqgw8/XQulNWeFViI/AAAAAAAAA2g/AGw2yKR4qiUVfzwnULLJu9g2PGFCJEp3gCLcBGAs/s1600/k15.jpg

ph2ter
06-20-2019, 04:18 PM
Could you please plotting my father for your K13 plot?

Population
North_Atlantic 13.25 Pct
Baltic 21.55 Pct
West_Med 16.35 Pct
West_Asian 15.58 Pct
East_Med 23.55 Pct
Red_Sea 1.84 Pct
South_Asian 3.11 Pct
East_Asian 1.56 Pct
Siberian 2.17 Pct
Amerindian 1.01 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

http://i64.tinypic.com/xga00p.png

Pine
06-20-2019, 04:28 PM
Just give me your values, but they should be unsorted.

K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 14.95 Pct
Baltic 4.98 Pct
West_Med 19.02 Pct
West_Asian 14.45 Pct
East_Med 35.68 Pct
Red_Sea 6.14 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 2.39 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.08 Pct
Oceanian 0.97 Pct
Northeast_African 0.18 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.16 Pct

K15

Population
North_Sea 8.16 Pct
Atlantic 12.47 Pct
Baltic 2.75 Pct
Eastern_Euro 3.26 Pct
West_Med 15.17 Pct
West_Asian 16.01 Pct
East_Med 29.00 Pct
Red_Sea 8.39 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 2.22 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.88 Pct
Northeast_African 0.99 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.70 Pct

karakartal
06-20-2019, 06:01 PM
http://i64.tinypic.com/xga00p.png

my father more european than me but he plotted close caucasia. i don't understand this.

ModernMaskil
06-20-2019, 06:16 PM
http://i64.tinypic.com/xga00p.png

I have no idea how you do this and don't want to turn you into some plotting service, but is it hard/does it take long to do?

ph2ter
06-20-2019, 06:19 PM
K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 14.95 Pct
Baltic 4.98 Pct
West_Med 19.02 Pct
West_Asian 14.45 Pct
East_Med 35.68 Pct
Red_Sea 6.14 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 2.39 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.08 Pct
Oceanian 0.97 Pct
Northeast_African 0.18 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.16 Pct

K15

Population
North_Sea 8.16 Pct
Atlantic 12.47 Pct
Baltic 2.75 Pct
Eastern_Euro 3.26 Pct
West_Med 15.17 Pct
West_Asian 16.01 Pct
East_Med 29.00 Pct
Red_Sea 8.39 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 2.22 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.88 Pct
Northeast_African 0.99 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.70 Pct
K13:
http://i66.tinypic.com/2466hrq.png

K15:
http://i63.tinypic.com/2s8rb5u.png

ph2ter
06-20-2019, 06:22 PM
my father more european than me but he plotted close caucasia. i don't understand this.

He is maybe more Slavic and Tatar Turkic than you, you are more Greek than he is.

Pine
06-20-2019, 06:23 PM
K13:
http://i66.tinypic.com/2466hrq.png

K15:
http://i63.tinypic.com/2s8rb5u.png

Thanks!

karakartal
06-20-2019, 06:24 PM
He is maybe more Slavic and Tatar Turkic than you, you are more Greek than he is.

it's logical

ph2ter
06-20-2019, 06:24 PM
I have no idea how you do this and don't want to turn you into some plotting service, but is it hard/does it take long to do?

It takes about 5-10 minutes. It is more easier if you give me unsorted values separated by some separator.

ModernMaskil
06-20-2019, 06:28 PM
It takes about 5-10 minutes. It is more easier if you give me unsorted values separated by some separator.

Is this okay?

K13

Population
North_Atlantic 20.23 Pct
Baltic 8.19 Pct
West_Med 16.46 Pct
West_Asian 11.48 Pct
East_Med 33.24 Pct
Red_Sea 6.62 Pct
South_Asian 0.49 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.35 Pct
Amerindian 0.20 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.76 Pct

K15

Population
North_Sea 8.88 Pct
Atlantic 18.07 Pct
Baltic 3.22 Pct
Eastern_Euro 6.71 Pct
West_Med 12.43 Pct
West_Asian 13.74 Pct
East_Med 24.75 Pct
Red_Sea 9.20 Pct
South_Asian 0.46 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.84 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.29 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.39 Pct

ph2ter
06-20-2019, 07:09 PM
Is this okay?

K13

Population
North_Atlantic 20.23 Pct
Baltic 8.19 Pct
West_Med 16.46 Pct
West_Asian 11.48 Pct
East_Med 33.24 Pct
Red_Sea 6.62 Pct
South_Asian 0.49 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.35 Pct
Amerindian 0.20 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.76 Pct

K15

Population
North_Sea 8.88 Pct
Atlantic 18.07 Pct
Baltic 3.22 Pct
Eastern_Euro 6.71 Pct
West_Med 12.43 Pct
West_Asian 13.74 Pct
East_Med 24.75 Pct
Red_Sea 9.20 Pct
South_Asian 0.46 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.84 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.29 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.39 Pct

K13: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1e6rppa4v9kd9fj/K13ModernMaskil.png?dl=0
K15: https://www.dropbox.com/s/84cpgcsdcjgpbic/K15ModernMaskil.png?dl=0

ModernMaskil
06-20-2019, 07:36 PM
K13: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1e6rppa4v9kd9fj/K13ModernMaskil.png?dl=0
K15: https://www.dropbox.com/s/84cpgcsdcjgpbic/K15ModernMaskil.png?dl=0

Thanks a lot.

Tortfeasor
06-20-2019, 11:34 PM
Not sure how accurate these are. I did this one as well as another and they both put me in the same spot right above the dot N. German.

Gallop
06-21-2019, 01:16 AM
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uVzPvS5dbGo/XQwtVwxCYMI/AAAAAAAAA24/hCjUxbIq8lI2K9QhjfAkjrxNIu8lk1iYQCLcBGAs/s1600/grafico-virgen3.jpg

Bessarion
06-21-2019, 08:16 AM
K13: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1e6rppa4v9kd9fj/K13ModernMaskil.png?dl=0
K15: https://www.dropbox.com/s/84cpgcsdcjgpbic/K15ModernMaskil.png?dl=0

I didn't see that map before(with so many members within). Did you do this just by yourself, look like a lot of work.

Can you share whole K13, K15 maps, with all sectors visible?

ph2ter
06-21-2019, 08:52 AM
I didn't see that map before(with so many members within). Did you do this just by yourself, look like a lot of work.

Can you share whole K13, K15 maps, with all sectors visible?
I continuously collect the data for at least a year.

K15 detailed PCA from May:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/237ga0gpllfxlt5/K15May2019.png?dl=0

K13 only overall PCA plot:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7vzneeov6n4ds91/K13.png?dl=0

Bessarion
06-21-2019, 10:27 AM
I continuously collect the data for at least a year.

K15 detailed PCA from May:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/237ga0gpllfxlt5/K15May2019.png?dl=0

K13 only overall PCA plot:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7vzneeov6n4ds91/K13.png?dl=0

Can you put my data in maps? I plan to do it myself but it seems that is different map than one from original calculator map; https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm.

Your maps, especially K15 are more detail...thank you.



K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

Population
North_Atlantic 32.03 Pct
Baltic 29.73 Pct
West_Med 12.69 Pct
West_Asian 9.03 Pct
East_Med 12.57 Pct
Red_Sea 0.74 Pct
South_Asian 0.19 Pct
East_Asian 0.74 Pct
Siberian 0.78 Pct
Amerindian 1.27 Pct
Oceanian 0.22 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

K15:


Population
North_Sea 25.40 Pct
Atlantic 18.20 Pct
Baltic 17.76 Pct
Eastern_Euro 9.24 Pct
West_Med 8.40 Pct
West_Asian 9.74 Pct
East_Med 8.76 Pct
Red_Sea 0.48 Pct
South_Asian 0.10 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.59 Pct
Siberian 0.12 Pct
Amerindian 1.14 Pct
Oceanian 0.06 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

ph2ter
06-21-2019, 11:07 AM
Can you put my data in maps? I plan to do it myself but it seems that is different map than one from original calculator map; https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm.

Your maps, especially K15 are more detail...thank you.



K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

Population
North_Atlantic 32.03 Pct
Baltic 29.73 Pct
West_Med 12.69 Pct
West_Asian 9.03 Pct
East_Med 12.57 Pct
Red_Sea 0.74 Pct
South_Asian 0.19 Pct
East_Asian 0.74 Pct
Siberian 0.78 Pct
Amerindian 1.27 Pct
Oceanian 0.22 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

K15:


Population
North_Sea 25.40 Pct
Atlantic 18.20 Pct
Baltic 17.76 Pct
Eastern_Euro 9.24 Pct
West_Med 8.40 Pct
West_Asian 9.74 Pct
East_Med 8.76 Pct
Red_Sea 0.48 Pct
South_Asian 0.10 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.59 Pct
Siberian 0.12 Pct
Amerindian 1.14 Pct
Oceanian 0.06 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

K13: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qvhsw5g3b3szucs/K13Bessarion.png?dl=0
K15: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qurun1o7logxmad/K15Bessarion.png?dl=0


Can you put my data in maps? I plan to do it myself but it seems that is different map than one from original calculator map; https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K15.htm.
This is not classical PCA but some proprietary map algorithm (as far as I know, maybe I am wrong).

Lemgrant
06-21-2019, 11:40 AM
I continuously collect the data for at least a year.

K15 detailed PCA from May:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/237ga0gpllfxlt5/K15May2019.png?dl=0

K13 only overall PCA plot:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7vzneeov6n4ds91/K13.png?dl=0
me

K13 (from ftdna file)

Population
North_Atlantic 27.15 Pct
Baltic 45.55 Pct
West_Med 11.28 Pct
West_Asian 4.98 Pct
East_Med 5.40 Pct
Red_Sea 0.53 Pct
South_Asian 1.07 Pct
East_Asian 0.30 Pct
Siberian 1.55 Pct
Amerindian 1.93 Pct
Oceanian 0.26 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

ph2ter
06-21-2019, 01:04 PM
me

K13 (from ftdna file)

Population
North_Atlantic 27.15 Pct
Baltic 45.55 Pct
West_Med 11.28 Pct
West_Asian 4.98 Pct
East_Med 5.40 Pct
Red_Sea 0.53 Pct
South_Asian 1.07 Pct
East_Asian 0.30 Pct
Siberian 1.55 Pct
Amerindian 1.93 Pct
Oceanian 0.26 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m8cvxlqg2bq9heh/K13Lemgrant.png?dl=0

Lemgrant
06-21-2019, 01:20 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m8cvxlqg2bq9heh/K13Lemgrant.png?dl=0

Great, thank you

Sp_loa
06-21-2019, 02:29 PM
K13: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1e6rppa4v9kd9fj/K13ModernMaskil.png?dl=0
K15: https://www.dropbox.com/s/84cpgcsdcjgpbic/K15ModernMaskil.png?dl=0

Can you plot me and my grandmother:

ME:

K13:
Population
North_Atlantic 13.11 Pct
Baltic 2.59 Pct
West_Med 19.73 Pct
West_Asian 12.38 Pct
East_Med 36.29 Pct
Red_Sea 9.72 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.19 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 2.26 Pct
Sub-Saharan 3.71 Pct


K15:
Population
North_Sea 2.71 Pct
Atlantic 14.35 Pct
Baltic 2.49 Pct
Eastern_Euro 0.34 Pct
West_Med 16.29 Pct
West_Asian 14.53 Pct
East_Med 33.01 Pct
Red_Sea 10.12 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 2.84 Pct
Sub-Saharan 3.32 Pct






Maternal Grandmother:


K13:
Population
North_Atlantic 12.19 Pct
Baltic 5.02 Pct
West_Med 21.08 Pct
West_Asian 11.74 Pct
East_Med 35.65 Pct
Red_Sea 9.63 Pct
South_Asian 0.12 Pct
East_Asian 0.26 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.81 Pct
Oceanian 0.15 Pct
Northeast_African 1.57 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.80 Pct


K15:
Population
North_Sea 6.42 Pct
Atlantic 10.12 Pct
Baltic 5.03 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 17.76 Pct
West_Asian 13.31 Pct
East_Med 32.74 Pct
Red_Sea 10.00 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.22 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.80 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 2.23 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.38 Pct

Lemgrant
06-21-2019, 03:55 PM
would be nice to see also the dot of the overall position to see how they gravitate on that

I just found that if you calculate the "center of mass" from the 22 xy coordinates, then the position is very different.
But that's probably because chromosomes have different length, so each of them have different impact: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK22266/

https://i.ibb.co/vzvYcsC/K15V489.png

Nurzat
06-21-2019, 05:28 PM
I just found that if you calculate the "center of mass" from the 22 xy coordinates, then the position is very different.
But that's probably because chromosomes have different length, so each of them have different impact: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK22266/

the first few chr count for as much as genetic material as the entire "lower" half, more or less, so yeah the magnitude is high on the first chromosomes

ph2ter
06-21-2019, 08:06 PM
Can you plot me and my grandmother:
...

K13:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/alvbqwj7r4rl8ke/K13sp_loa.png?dl=0

K15:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nay1xx9p44pioin/K15sp_loa.png?dl=0

Ayetooey
06-21-2019, 08:11 PM
K13:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/alvbqwj7r4rl8ke/K13sp_loa.png?dl=0

K15:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nay1xx9p44pioin/K15sp_loa.png?dl=0

Would you mind plotting my dad please bro? Cheers.

k13

Population
North_Atlantic 24.12 Pct
Baltic 31.47 Pct
West_Med 17.07 Pct
West_Asian 9.07 Pct
East_Med 15.22 Pct
Red_Sea 0.64 Pct
South_Asian 0.66 Pct
East_Asian 0.27 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.16 Pct
Oceanian 0.05 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.27 Pct


k15
Population
North_Sea 17.07 Pct
Atlantic 14.69 Pct
Baltic 19.91 Pct
Eastern_Euro 13.58 Pct
West_Med 13.77 Pct
West_Asian 7.87 Pct
East_Med 11.89 Pct
Red_Sea 0.23 Pct
South_Asian 0.20 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.63 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.18 Pct

ph2ter
06-21-2019, 08:32 PM
Would you mind plotting my dad please bro? Cheers.

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K13 https://www.dropbox.com/s/rly1agic6tfdmn9/K13ayetooeyDad.png?dl=0

K15 https://www.dropbox.com/s/yz7ilvvoyqrqfr7/K15ayetooeyDad.png?dl=0

celticdragongod
06-22-2019, 01:20 AM
From my set of Apricity and Anthrogenica user's K13 and K15 values (1000-1500 users of European descent).

Could you add me to that plot if it isn't too much trouble?

CDG K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 50.05 Pct
Baltic 25.56 Pct
West_Med 12.25 Pct
West_Asian 6.16 Pct
East_Med 3.27 Pct
Red_Sea 0.06 Pct
South_Asian 1.19 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.87 Pct
Amerindian 0.23 Pct
Oceanian 0.31 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


CDG K15:

Population
North_Sea 33.06 Pct
Atlantic 30.68 Pct
Baltic 12.48 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.43 Pct
West_Med 7.33 Pct
West_Asian 4.73 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.93 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.26 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.08 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

ph2ter
06-22-2019, 01:23 PM
Could you add me to that plot if it isn't too much trouble?

CDG K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 50.05 Pct
Baltic 25.56 Pct
West_Med 12.25 Pct
West_Asian 6.16 Pct
East_Med 3.27 Pct
Red_Sea 0.06 Pct
South_Asian 1.19 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.87 Pct
Amerindian 0.23 Pct
Oceanian 0.31 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


CDG K15:

Population
North_Sea 33.06 Pct
Atlantic 30.68 Pct
Baltic 12.48 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.43 Pct
West_Med 7.33 Pct
West_Asian 4.73 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.93 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.26 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.08 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n4gqnwozb8zysm1/K13CDG.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tyxovlbedegm8iv/K15CDG.png?dl=0

celticdragongod
06-22-2019, 02:53 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n4gqnwozb8zysm1/K13CDG.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tyxovlbedegm8iv/K15CDG.png?dl=0

Awesome! Thank you, Ph2ter!

celticdragongod
06-22-2019, 02:54 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n4gqnwozb8zysm1/K13CDG.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tyxovlbedegm8iv/K15CDG.png?dl=0

Awesome! Thank you, Ph2ter!

Lemgrant
06-23-2019, 02:03 PM
Eurogenes K36 Chromosome Mapping

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?221329-Eurogenes-K36-Mapping

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/Europe.htm

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48114109128_c2ccf3f322_o.png
https://i.imgur.com/mUFzxdf.png

Rgvgjhvv
09-07-2019, 03:02 PM
Anything here that's important or interesting?

https://i.imgur.com/SowtBz7.png

Mr.G
09-07-2019, 03:30 PM
^^^ Awesome Markos, I'll give this a try. Neat way to view your ancestry- not sure what it all means, if anything though.

Rgvgjhvv
09-07-2019, 03:37 PM
^^^ Awesome Markos, I'll give this a try. Neat way to view your ancestry- not sure what it all means, if anything though.

I'm hoping someone can explain exactly what these mean :lol: It takes a while though, I did it over a few sittings and I might recommend you do the same!

Mr.G
09-07-2019, 03:39 PM
I'm hoping someone can explain exactly what these mean :lol: It takes a while though, I did it over a few sittings and I might recommend you do the same!

Yeah man, and I'm a little slower than most to boot. I'll need to space it out.

I suggest you ask Kaspias what he makes of your plot, he always has good insights.

Mr.G
09-07-2019, 03:56 PM
Lukasz made a K36 Chromosome plot for me, this is how that shook out.

https://i.imgur.com/bogfWyd.png

WeirdLookingFellow
09-07-2019, 04:20 PM
K13 [

Who would like to plot me as well please?

K13:

1 North_Atlantic 28.06
2 Baltic 24.76
3 East_Med 18.76
4 West_Med 17.53
5 West_Asian 6.52
6 Siberian 1.37
7 Amerindian 1.36
8 Sub-Saharan 1.32
9 Oceanian 0.22
10 South_Asian 0.1

K15:

1 Baltic 18.15
2 Atlantic 17.85
3 North_Sea 17.56
4 East_Med 15.65
5 West_Med 14.10
6 Eastern_Euro 8.01
7 West_Asian 5.21
8 Sub-Saharan 1.29
9 Amerindian 1.10

RyoHazuki
09-07-2019, 10:23 PM
Mine are evenly spread from Northwest to South Europe. What does this mean?
https://i.imgur.com/BDL1vcX_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

ph2ter
09-07-2019, 10:29 PM
Who would like to plot me as well please?

K13:

1 North_Atlantic 28.06
2 Baltic 24.76
3 East_Med 18.76
4 West_Med 17.53
5 West_Asian 6.52
6 Siberian 1.37
7 Amerindian 1.36
8 Sub-Saharan 1.32
9 Oceanian 0.22
10 South_Asian 0.1

K15:

1 Baltic 18.15
2 Atlantic 17.85
3 North_Sea 17.56
4 East_Med 15.65
5 West_Med 14.10
6 Eastern_Euro 8.01
7 West_Asian 5.21
8 Sub-Saharan 1.29
9 Amerindian 1.10
K13 PCA:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hqlykz4w2xspgl1/weirdK13PCA.png?dl=0

K13 CA:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/go2606mam3cx6ol/weirdK13CA.png?dl=0

K15 PCA:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uy64i02l1nljojr/weirdK15PCA.png?dl=0

K15 CA:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/18jol1yqgywdw9z/weirdK15CA.png?dl=0

WeirdLookingFellow
09-08-2019, 07:33 AM
K13 PCA:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hqlykz4w2xspgl1/weirdK13PCA.png?dl=0

K13 CA:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/go2606mam3cx6ol/weirdK13CA.png?dl=0

K15 PCA:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uy64i02l1nljojr/weirdK15PCA.png?dl=0

K15 CA:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/18jol1yqgywdw9z/weirdK15CA.png?dl=0

Thanks a lot. Quite close to N. italy and to the Sandzak Muslims/N. albanians like vbniothek or how u spell his name said.

vbnetkhio
09-08-2019, 11:01 AM
i don't think "Admixture proportions by chromosome" are accurate. i get too much Southeast Asian, South Asian, Subsaharan etc. i have 0 of those on the regular Admixture

for example my chromosome 16 has 6.6% southeast asian, it seems it plots near the Tatar point on the PCA, but it's actually getting pulled in that direction by the Southeast Asian admixture. idk what to do with that information

firemonkey
09-08-2019, 11:55 AM
An interesting thing to do ,if you can . Unfortunately I don't have the fine motor skills to add squares on the map where my chromosomes are .

farke1
09-08-2019, 12:27 PM
If someone wants to explain why my seventh chromosome is so far away from the others, that'd be appreciated.

https://i.imgur.com/JTxC6io.png

WeirdLookingFellow
09-08-2019, 02:26 PM
I've ran a few more chromosome tests and noticed a few East Asians % on Chromosome 5 which might indicate why it plots so East. On K15 it's South Asian + South-East Asian but it goes 0 South Asian and South East Asian + Volga + Indo-Chinese on K36.

https://i.ibb.co/TtWYjF3/K15-V4-Ch1.png

vbnetkhio
09-08-2019, 02:38 PM
South Asian + South-East Asian

you think you really have that admixture?

WeirdLookingFellow
09-08-2019, 02:42 PM
you think you really have that admixture?

0.1 S. Asian on K13 and everywhere else under average where it's always there. Nothing on MyHeritage either. K36 chromosome test places just South-East Asian. So probably not, who knows.

War Chef
09-08-2019, 09:00 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Y1VCjLy.png

firemonkey
09-09-2019, 01:13 PM
Is there a simple way to do this that doesn't require me to have good fine motor skills ?

WeirdLookingFellow
09-09-2019, 01:20 PM
Is there a simple way to do this that doesn't require me to have good fine motor skills ?

No, unfortunately. Unless someone made a tool specifically for this, which would be nice.




Wow, that's pretty cool. That Smolensk one and that Kumyk one especially, they're like of two completely different people lol.

TheMaestro
09-09-2019, 01:27 PM
Idk what should do now


Total composants:
97.80000000000001


Abscisse (x-axis):
418
pixel

Ordonnée (y-axis):
317
pixel

vbnetkhio
09-09-2019, 01:37 PM
Is there a simple way to do this that doesn't require me to have good fine motor skills ?

i don't really get the point of this plotting except that it loks pretty, but if you want it, you can post your admixture proportions by chromosme here and i'll plot you.

firemonkey
09-09-2019, 04:21 PM
i don't really get the point of this plotting except that it loks pretty, but if you want it, you can post your admixture proportions by chromosme here and i'll plot you.

Thanks for the kind offer. Gedmatch is currently down for maintenance. Will post later.

firemonkey
09-09-2019, 10:02 PM
i don't really get the point of this plotting except that it loks pretty, but if you want it, you can post your admixture proportions by chromosme here and i'll plot you.



Here you go . Thanks .



91217

War Chef
09-09-2019, 10:33 PM
No, unfortunately. Unless someone made a tool specifically for this, which would be nice.



Wow, that's pretty cool. That Smolensk one and that Kumyk one especially, they're like of two completely different people lol.

Seyas is pretty cool too. Her mom at least

vbnetkhio
09-10-2019, 08:03 AM
Here you go . Thanks .



91217


https://i.imgur.com/sxPFEiy.png