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Peterski
06-19-2019, 02:02 PM
Post here how many DNA relatives do you have with 4 grandparents born in the same country.

I will start:

USA - 140 relatives with all 4 grandparents born in the USA
Poland - 19 relatives with all 4 grandparents born in Poland
Germany - 3 relatives with all 4 grandparents born in Germany
Canada - 2 relatives with all 4 grandparents born in Canada
Ukraine - 0
Russia - 4 relatives with all 4 grandparents born in Russia
Ireland - 0
Italy - 1 relative with all 4 grandparents born in Italy
UK - 2 relatives with all 4 grandparents born in the UK
Czechia - 2 relatives with all 4 grandparents born in Czechia
Lithuania - 2 relatives with all 4 grandparents born in Lithuania
Austria - 0
Hungary - 0
Slovakia - 2 relatives with all 4 grandparents born in Slovakia
Sweden - 0
Croatia - 1 relative with all 4 grandparents born in Croatia
France - 1 relative with all 4 grandparents born in France
Mexico - 0
Netherlands - 0
Norway - 0

And the total numbers (at least 1 grandparent listed as born in a given country) are as follows:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?292829-Peterski-s-23andMe-results

https://i.imgur.com/0KwS9kI.png

https://i.imgur.com/JnueOyH.png

Grace O'Malley
06-19-2019, 02:40 PM
United States of America (435)
Has 4 grandparents (168)

Ireland (174)
Has 4 grandparents (59)

United Kingdom (80)
Has 4 grandparents (13)

Canada (57)
Has 4 grandparents (10)

Italy (20)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Germany (19)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Australia (12)
Has 4 grandparents (3)

Denmark (6)
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Poland (6)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Sweden (6)
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Lithuania (4)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Netherlands (4)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Puerto Rico (4)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Greece (3)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Hungary (3)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Jamaica (3)
Has 4 grandparents (2)

Mexico (3)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Norway (3)
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Slovakia (3)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

MyHeritage has a lot more European matches. 23&Me is quite low in Europeans.

South Africa (3)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Peterski
06-19-2019, 02:47 PM
MyHeritage has a lot more European matches. 23&Me is quite low in Europeans.

Yes - https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?273197-Post-your-MyHeritage-DNA-matches-by-country

farke1
06-19-2019, 02:56 PM
United States of America (433)
Has 4 grandparents (181)

Ireland (186)
Has 4 grandparents (53)

United Kingdom (109)
Has 4 grandparents (47)

Norway (63)
Has 4 grandparents (22)

Germany (36)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Canada (19)
Has 4 grandparents (2)

Sweden (14)
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Italy (10)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Ukraine (6)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Denmark (5)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Poland (5)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Australia (4)
Has 4 grandparents (1)

France (4)
Has 4 grandparents (2)

Hungary (4)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Netherlands (4)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Switzerland (4)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Argentina (3)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Croatia (2)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

New Zealand (2)
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Mexico (1)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Sp_loa
06-19-2019, 10:40 PM
Only my maternal grandmother was tested with 23andme and this is what she got-

Morocco (439) -
Has 4 grandparents (181)

United States of America (78)-
Has 4 grandparents (9)

Puerto Rico (70)-
Has 4 grandparents (40)

Algeria (65)-
Has 4 grandparents (11)

Israel (56)-
Has 4 grandparents (3)

France (33)-
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Poland (33)-
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Tunisia (25)-
Has 4 grandparents (4)

Egypt (22)-
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Spain (22)-
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Germany (17)-
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Mexico (17)-
Has 4 grandparents (4)

Italy (14)-
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Romania (11)-
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Turkey (11)-
Has 4 grandparents (0)

United Kingdom (11)-
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Russia (10)-
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Austria (9)-
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Yemen (8)-
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Bulgaria (7)-
Has 4 grandparents (0)


Surprisingly enough my grandmother have some Full Ashkenazi matches (very few though) but she doesn't match any full Eastern Sephardic.

Pine
06-20-2019, 07:45 AM
Surprisingly enough my grandmother have some Full Ashkenazi matches (very few though) but she doesn't match any full Eastern Sephardic.

See: Pseudo-Sephardic Surnames from Italy By Beider for a plausible explanation.

Lemgrant
06-20-2019, 08:40 AM
Mother's

USA
Has 4 grandparents (106)

Ukraine
Has 4 grandparents (22)

Russia
Has 4 grandparents (12)

Poland
Has 4 grandparents (14)

Lithuania
Has 4 grandparents (4)

Belarus
Has 4 grandparents (3)

Germany
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Canada
Has 4 grandparents (4)

Hungary
Has 4 grandparents (3)

United Kingdom
Has 4 grandparents (2)

Italy
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Austria
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Romania
Has 4 grandparents (5)

Slovakia
Has 4 grandparents (2)

Czechia
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Sweden
Has 4 grandparents (4)

Uzbekistan
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Croatia
Has 4 grandparents (3)

Latest screenshot:
https://i.imgur.com/6rMesv0.png

Vojnik
06-20-2019, 10:20 AM
United States of America: 78
Poland: 14
Russia: 15
Greece: 25
Ukraine: 7
Belarus: 3
Lithuania: 3
Macedonia: 11
United Kingdom: 2
Austria: 0
Italy: 3
Serbia: 5
Romania: 6
Canada: 0
Germany: 1
Hungary: 2
Croatia: 4
Albania: 5
Bosnia & Herzegovina: 4
Bulgaria: 4

Standard:


United States of America (266)
Poland (97)
Russia (92)
Greece (64)
Ukraine (51)
Belarus (30)
Lithuania (28)
Macedonia (27)
United Kingdom (27)
Austria (22)
Italy (22)
Serbia (22)
Romania (20)
Canada (19)
Germany (19)
Hungary (19)
Croatia (16)
Albania (12)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (10)
Bulgaria (10)

Pubiczar
06-20-2019, 11:06 AM
Mum:

United States of America (285)
Has 4 grandparents (93)
Greece (90)
Has 4 grandparents (37)
Italy (47)
Has 4 grandparents (8)
Poland (39)
Has 4 grandparents (6)
Germany (31)
Has 4 grandparents (2)
Romania (31)
Has 4 grandparents (18)
Croatia (30)
Has 4 grandparents (3)
Albania (24)
Has 4 grandparents (17)
Macedonia (24)
Has 4 grandparents (12)
United Kingdom (23)
Has 4 grandparents (3)
Bulgaria (21)
Has 4 grandparents (11)
Canada (21)
Has 4 grandparents (2)
Hungary (20)
Has 4 grandparents (3)
Ukraine (20)
Has 4 grandparents (3)
Russia (19)
Has 4 grandparents (1)
Serbia (16)
Has 4 grandparents (2)
Turkey (15)
Has 4 grandparents (1)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (14)
Has 4 grandparents (3)
Czechia (13)
Has 4 grandparents (3)
Montenegro (12)
Has 4 grandparents (5)


Me:

United States of America (277)
Has 4 grandparents (96)
Greece (87)
Has 4 grandparents (31)
Italy (48)
Has 4 grandparents (10)
Poland (40)
Has 4 grandparents (11)
Canada (30)
Has 4 grandparents (4)
Bulgaria (27)
Has 4 grandparents (15)
Croatia (24)
Has 4 grandparents (2)
Romania (22)
Has 4 grandparents (9)
Ukraine (22)
Has 4 grandparents (3)
United Kingdom (21)
Has 4 grandparents (2)
Germany (20)
Has 4 grandparents (5)
Macedonia (19)
Has 4 grandparents (8)
Turkey (19)
Has 4 grandparents (2)
Russia (18)
Has 4 grandparents (3)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (16)
Has 4 grandparents (5)
Hungary (15)
Has 4 grandparents (1)
Serbia (15)
Has 4 grandparents (2)
Czechia (10)
Has 4 grandparents (4)
Albania (9)
Has 4 grandparents (3)
Ireland (8)
Has 4 grandparents (0)

Lemgrant
06-20-2019, 11:38 AM
United States of America: 78
Poland: 14
Russia: 15
Greece: 25
Ukraine: 7
Belarus: 3
Lithuania: 3
Macedonia: 11
United Kingdom: 2
Austria: 0
Italy: 3
Serbia: 5
Romania: 6
Canada: 0
Germany: 1
Hungary: 2
Croatia: 4
Albania: 5
Bosnia & Herzegovina: 4
Bulgaria: 4

Standard:


United States of America (266)
Poland (97)
Russia (92)
Greece (64)
Ukraine (51)
Belarus (30)
Lithuania (28)
Macedonia (27)
United Kingdom (27)
Austria (22)
Italy (22)
Serbia (22)
Romania (20)
Canada (19)
Germany (19)
Hungary (19)
Croatia (16)
Albania (12)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (10)
Bulgaria (10)


you have more Lithuanian, Russian, Ukrainian than Peterski... and the same number of Polish... wtf

Vojnik
06-20-2019, 11:56 AM
you have more Lithuanian, Russian, Ukrainian than Peterski... and the same number of Polish... wtf

Very strange. I noticed i had alot of Polish.

Vojnik
06-20-2019, 11:58 AM
I'm quite Slav for an average Macedonian. But i don't look it.

Lemgrant
06-20-2019, 12:28 PM
Very strange. I noticed i had alot of Polish.

add to that 49% of your DNA relatives score AJ while you 0%, I mean what are the odds for something like that?
Your results look exceptional.

Pubiczar
06-20-2019, 12:45 PM
I'm quite Slav for an average Macedonian. But i don't look it.

Your inflated numbers for Poland/Ukraine/Russia/Lithuania come from the Ashkenazi Jews who share a lot of IBD between themselves so even when you share a less significant ancestry with them, you still get a lot of Ashkenazi matches as is in your case.

You might want to investigate where does it come from but I suspect that a Balkan woman might have married in a Jew family...

Vojnik
06-20-2019, 01:05 PM
Your inflated numbers for Poland/Ukraine/Russia/Lithuania come from the Ashkenazi Jews who share a lot of IBD between themselves so even when you share a less significant ancestry with them, you still get a lot of Ashkenazi matches as is in your case.

You might want to investigate where does it come from but I suspect that a Balkan woman might have married in a Jew family...

IBD? Whats that?

I get what you mean with the Ashkenazi. But i Get 0 Ashkenazi in my ancestry composition, so i can't see how i'd be connected to the Poles via the Ashkenazi proxy. More likely via the Eastern Euro proxy.

Pubiczar
06-20-2019, 01:28 PM
IBD? Whats that?

I get what you mean with the Ashkenazi. But i Get 0 Ashkenazi in my ancestry composition, so i can't see how i'd be connected to the Poles via the Ashkenazi proxy. More likely via the Eastern Euro proxy.

I remember you posted the ancestry composition of your matches once and the first ethnicity your matches scored was Ashkenazi!!

Ford
06-20-2019, 01:33 PM
IBD? Whats that?

I get what you mean with the Ashkenazi. But i Get 0 Ashkenazi in my ancestry composition, so i can't see how i'd be connected to the Poles via the Ashkenazi proxy. More likely via the Eastern Euro proxy.

IBD (identical by descent), as opposed to IBS, means that the matching segment(s) you have with a DNA relative are from a common ancestor instead of recombination.

Vojnik
06-20-2019, 01:37 PM
I remember you posted the ancestry composition of your matches once and the first ethnicity your matches scored was Ashkenazi!!

Yes yes. This one.

http://i63.tinypic.com/21cyywi.png

But then i match it to this and i'm like wtf.

http://i64.tinypic.com/dzxq1f.jpg

Pubiczar
06-20-2019, 01:49 PM
Yes yes. This one.

http://i63.tinypic.com/21cyywi.png

But then i match it to this and i'm like wtf.

http://i64.tinypic.com/dzxq1f.jpg

It means that you don't have Ashkenazi blood but some distant or recent relative of yours, probably a Macedonian from around your ancestral lands, married into a Jewish family, hence the inflated numbers.

Vojnik
06-20-2019, 01:50 PM
It means that you don't have Ashkenazi blood but some distant or recent relative of yours, probably a Macedonian from around your ancestral lands, married into a Jewish family, hence the inflated numbers.

Yes, now i get it. I have Jewish family. That's cool.

Norb
06-20-2019, 03:25 PM
United States of America (404) 4 grandparents = 185
United Kingdom (93) 4 grandparents = 27
Canada (36) 4 grandparents = 7
Ireland (28) 4 grandparents = 3
Italy (16) 4 grandparents = 0
Germany (14) 4 grandparents = 0
Australia (9) 4 grandparents = 3
Mexico (7) 4 grandparents = 0
Netherlands (5) 4 grandparents = 0
New Zealand (5) 4 grandparents = 1
Hungary (3) 4 grandparents = 0
Indonesia (3) 4 grandparents = 0
Norway (3) 4 grandparents = 0
Poland (3) 4 grandparents = 0
Sweden (3) 4 grandparents = 0
Denmark (2) 4 grandparents = 0
Japan (2) 4 grandparents = 0
Russia (2) 4 grandparents = 0
Slovakia (2) 4 grandparents = 0
South Africa (2) 4 grandparents = 0

Also my grandparents were all born within 20 miles of each other

Figaro
06-20-2019, 03:27 PM
I’d participate, but 94% of my relatives are Ashkenazim, so it’s a moot point.

firemonkey
06-24-2019, 10:40 AM
United States of America (517)

Has 1+ grandparents (517)
Has 2+ grandparents (455)
Has 3+ grandparents (327)
Has 4 grandparents (256)


United Kingdom (148)

Has 1+ grandparents (148)
Has 2+ grandparents (89)
Has 3+ grandparents (55)
Has 4 grandparents (43)

Canada (72)

Has 1+ grandparents (72)
Has 2+ grandparents (46)
Has 3+ grandparents (29)
Has 4 grandparents (14)


Poland (9)

Has 1+ grandparents (9)
Has 2+ grandparents (3)
Has 3+ grandparents (1)
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Australia (8)

Has 1+ grandparents (8)
Has 2+ grandparents (6)
Has 3+ grandparents (4)
Has 4 grandparents (4)

Mexico (4)

Has 1+ grandparents (4)
Has 2+ grandparents (2)
Has 3+ grandparents (1)
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Norway (4)

Has 1+ grandparents (4)
Has 2+ grandparents (1)
Has 3+ grandparents (1)
Has 4 grandparents (1)

Kaspias
06-24-2019, 11:04 AM
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https://i.ibb.co/5KMGWR6/2s.png
https://i.ibb.co/8bdp0ty/3s.png
https://i.ibb.co/m6jVNRs/4s.png

Lemgrant
06-25-2019, 09:53 AM
https://i.ibb.co/gv034hv/1s.png
https://i.ibb.co/5KMGWR6/2s.png
https://i.ibb.co/8bdp0ty/3s.png
https://i.ibb.co/m6jVNRs/4s.png

It's not the same. You have posted the locations of your dna matches (where they live now). "Ancestor Birthplaces" on 23andme is specified by the customers themselves, similar to family tree on myheritage.

Kaspias
06-25-2019, 10:00 AM
It's not the same. You have posted the locations of your dna matches (where they live now). "Ancestor Birthplaces" on 23andme is specified by the customers themselves, similar to family tree on myheritage.

Yeah i know, i couldn't find this feature in MH so i posted this.

ksha
06-27-2019, 07:52 AM
Has 4 greatparents
United States (397)174
Germany (51)4
Poland(38) 5
Canada (24)3
Russia(23) 7
Hungary(22) 4
Great Britain(22) 2
Ireland(17) 1
Italy(17) 2
Ukraine (14)1
Austria (11)0
Greek(11) 4
Slovakia (11)2
Croatia (9)2
Romania(9) 4
Czechs (6)2
Mexico (6)1
Lithunia (5)1
Bosnia Herzegowina (4)2
France (4)0

Levant15
06-30-2019, 04:19 AM
Palestine, State of (298)
Israel (83)
United States of America (82)
Honduras (50)
El Salvador (39)
Mexico (38)
Chile (37)
Jordan (34)
Lebanon (33)
Peru (18)
Spain (18)
Syria (18)
Dominican Republic (15)
Colombia (13)
Nicaragua (11)
Cuba (10)
Egypt (9)
France (7)
Greece (7)
Guatemala (7)

Batman
06-30-2019, 04:53 AM
United States of America (251)
Greece (108)
Macedonia (61)
Italy (42)
Poland (32)
Albania (30)
Romania (30)
Croatia (28)
Serbia (27)
Germany (22)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (21)
Bulgaria (21)
Turkey (21)
Ukraine (21)
Canada (20)
Kosovo (15)
Montenegro (14)
Russia (14)
United Kingdom (14)
Hungary (11)

Lemgrant
08-09-2019, 10:51 AM
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Thracian
08-09-2019, 11:05 AM
United States of America (287) Has 4 grandparents (106)
Bulgaria (53) Has 4 grandparents (26)
Greece (42) Has 4 grandparents (15)
Romania (34) Has 4 grandparents (18)
Poland (32) Has 4 grandparents (11)
Turkey (31) Has 4 grandparents (11)
Italy (29) Has 4 grandparents (5)
Canada (28) Has 4 grandparents (3)
Ukraine (24) Has 4 grandparents (7)
Germany (22) Has 4 grandparents (1)
Russia (20) Has 4 grandparents (7)
United Kingdom (20) Has 4 grandparents (3)
Croatia (18) Has 4 grandparents (4)
Serbia (17) Has 4 grandparents (5)
Hungary (16) Has 4 grandparents (2)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (15) Has 4 grandparents (4)
Ireland (11) Has 4 grandparents (1)
Slovakia (11) Has 4 grandparents (1)
Montenegro (9) Has 4 grandparents (3)
Czechia (7) Has 4 grandparents (1)

Coastal Elite
10-16-2019, 12:03 AM
23andMe

United States of America (450)
Ireland (125)
United Kingdom (48)
Canada (45)
Romania (32)
Germany (21)
Italy (11)
Hungary (9)
Poland (6)
Croatia (5)
Mexico (5)
Netherlands (5)
Sweden (5)
Australia (4)
Norway (4)
Slovakia (4)
Austria (3)
Czechia (3)
France (3)
Portugal (3)