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grecoroman
06-21-2019, 01:42 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/QN4XVP1Q/11.png

gıulıoımpa
06-21-2019, 01:46 PM
people will kill me, i know, but i see a connection with certain celtic features.

grecoroman
06-21-2019, 01:49 PM
people will kill me, i know, but i see a connection with certain celtic features.

in what??? explain more

gıulıoımpa
06-21-2019, 01:50 PM
in what??? explain more
eye shape bow ridge and nose. seems brachy too

grecoroman
06-21-2019, 01:54 PM
eye shape bow ridge and nose. seems brachy too

well afghanistan has a wide variety of ethnicties like pashtuns, tajiks, uzbeks, hazaras, punjabis etc. i dont know how many of what ethnicity i used for the morph,

WinterCrusader
09-07-2019, 03:12 PM
looks Indian.

Seya
09-07-2019, 03:54 PM
looks Indian.

No way

hussein khan
09-07-2019, 05:55 PM
should be more south asian looking than that...

Seya
09-07-2019, 06:03 PM
should be more south asian looking than that...

Afghans don’t look indian at all, if that’s what south asian means

hussein khan
09-07-2019, 06:04 PM
Afghans don’t look indian at all, if that’s what south asian means

Well….guess its only pashtuns then.

We look pretty indian on avg.

lameduck
09-07-2019, 06:10 PM
should be more south asian looking than that...

i think its mongoloid thats lacking , i have seen way more mongoloid influence afghans than the clear cut south asian looking.

Seya
09-07-2019, 06:10 PM
Well….guess its only pashtuns then.

We look pretty indian on avg.

Do they look the same in pakistan as the ones in afghanistan? The afghan ones don’t look indian to me really

hussein khan
09-07-2019, 06:15 PM
Do they look the same in pakistan as the ones in afghanistan? The afghan ones don’t look indian to me really

Yeah, we do. We look the same exactly. ANd we both are pretty south asian looking. Here's are some few crowd pics of pashtuns from different regions:

Kandahar(ignore turkic-looking ones though) :

https://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNSMjhL_kusz09BD5cU7ZstpBIiadg%3A1567879 914312&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=751&ei=6vJzXYT0EN6Ck74Pj6iywA4&q=kandahari+crowds&oq=kandaha&gs_l=img.1.0.35i39l2j0l3j0i30l5.905.4280..6334...2 .0..0.628.2290.13j0j1j5-2....2..0....1..gws-wiz-img.....0..0i5i30.RBGtN1PV6o4

some more pashtun crowds(these are the only searchs on pashtun crowds i recommend. Cant find any good crowd pics of us):

https://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&biw=1536&bih=751&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNS4fh19zVNMAe636rlWK_OS1JioBA%3A1567880 043907&sa=1&ei=a_NzXdL3NqzmrgS22bqoCA&q=pashtun+crowds&oq=pashtun+crowds&gs_l=img.3..35i39l2.303.303..1213...0.0..0.604.604 .5-1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.8kF584L-VmY&ved=0ahUKEwiS2cSoqL_kAhUss4sKHbasDoUQ4dUDCAY&uact=5

hussein khan
09-07-2019, 06:16 PM
i think its mongoloid thats lacking , i have seen way more mongoloid influence afghans than the clear cut south asian looking.

I assume youre talking about afghans as whole and just not pashtuns.

Pashtuns look like pak pashtuns and we look no much different from norht west punjabis much. We look pretty south asian.

Seya
09-07-2019, 06:19 PM
Yeah, we do. We look the same exactly. ANd we both are pretty south asian looking. Here's are some few crowd pics of pashtuns from different regions:

Kandahar(ignore turkic-looking ones though) :

https://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNSMjhL_kusz09BD5cU7ZstpBIiadg%3A1567879 914312&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=751&ei=6vJzXYT0EN6Ck74Pj6iywA4&q=kandahari+crowds&oq=kandaha&gs_l=img.1.0.35i39l2j0l3j0i30l5.905.4280..6334...2 .0..0.628.2290.13j0j1j5-2....2..0....1..gws-wiz-img.....0..0i5i30.RBGtN1PV6o4

some more pashtun crowds(these are the only searchs on pashtun crowds i recommend. Cant find any good crowd pics of us):

https://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&biw=1536&bih=751&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNS4fh19zVNMAe636rlWK_OS1JioBA%3A1567880 043907&sa=1&ei=a_NzXdL3NqzmrgS22bqoCA&q=pashtun+crowds&oq=pashtun+crowds&gs_l=img.3..35i39l2.303.303..1213...0.0..0.604.604 .5-1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.8kF584L-VmY&ved=0ahUKEwiS2cSoqL_kAhUss4sKHbasDoUQ4dUDCAY&uact=5
To me they look iranic, not indian
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JgYKA4B37Vs/maxresdefault.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Boys_from_Spin_Boldak_in_Afghanistan.jpg/1200px-Boys_from_Spin_Boldak_in_Afghanistan.jpg

hussein khan
09-07-2019, 06:22 PM
To me they look iranic, not indian
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JgYKA4B37Vs/maxresdefault.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Boys_from_Spin_Boldak_in_Afghanistan.jpg/1200px-Boys_from_Spin_Boldak_in_Afghanistan.jpg

They look pretty similiar to many nothern punjabis actually. Theres no such thing as iranic look.

https://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNRjJ-bsaNjyXJtZdJLeU-VMcyo6Cg%3A1567880424809&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=751&ei=6PRzXZ6EL7mEwPAPx9GJ6A4&q=jatt+crowds&oq=jatt+crowds&gs_l=img.3...910.12365..12925...6.0..0.86.1395.21. ...2..0....1..gws-wiz-img.....0..35i39j0j0i30j0i19j0i10i19j0i8i30.K1-qvUHPrP4&ved=0ahUKEwiemJPeqb_kAhU5AhAIHcdoAu0Q4dUDCAU&uact=5#imgrc=HqzNe4YTXl0KmM:
https://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&biw=1536&bih=751&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNTMpSVvX8ZFzEd1H_VwS--LPjwXpA%3A1567880508385&sa=1&ei=PPVzXbn7FsuxrgTD_ZTACA&q=punjabi+crowds&oq=punjabi+crowds&gs_l=img.3...17896.19285..19743...0.0..0.106.613.7 j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i67j0j0i7i30._QmvOUoyp-Y&ved=0ahUKEwi5iYKGqr_kAhXLmIsKHcM-BYgQ4dUDCAY&uact=5

Seya
09-07-2019, 06:25 PM
They look pretty similiar to many nothern punjabis actually. Theres no such thing as iranic look.

https://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNRjJ-bsaNjyXJtZdJLeU-VMcyo6Cg%3A1567880424809&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=751&ei=6PRzXZ6EL7mEwPAPx9GJ6A4&q=jatt+crowds&oq=jatt+crowds&gs_l=img.3...910.12365..12925...6.0..0.86.1395.21. ...2..0....1..gws-wiz-img.....0..35i39j0j0i30j0i19j0i10i19j0i8i30.K1-qvUHPrP4&ved=0ahUKEwiemJPeqb_kAhU5AhAIHcdoAu0Q4dUDCAU&uact=5#imgrc=HqzNe4YTXl0KmM:
https://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&biw=1536&bih=751&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNTMpSVvX8ZFzEd1H_VwS--LPjwXpA%3A1567880508385&sa=1&ei=PPVzXbn7FsuxrgTD_ZTACA&q=punjabi+crowds&oq=punjabi+crowds&gs_l=img.3...17896.19285..19743...0.0..0.106.613.7 j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i67j0j0i7i30._QmvOUoyp-Y&ved=0ahUKEwi5iYKGqr_kAhXLmIsKHcM-BYgQ4dUDCAY&uact=5

Of course there is. There is even a phenotype called after iranian people. Maybe north indians look iranic, not the other way around

hussein khan
09-07-2019, 06:28 PM
Of course there is. There is even a phenotype called after iranian people. Maybe north indians look iranic, not the other way around

Phenotype, menotype doesnt mean much though. North indian and irano-afghan always look pretty similiar. Pashtuns as whole look WAY more like punjabis than pamiris and "Iranic" west asians as whole.'' THis pseodo-science of antrophology is just silly.

And saying north indians look iranic is another way saying pashtuns look mostly like north indians. Anyway, i respect your opinion and all. But i disagree...

lameduck
09-07-2019, 06:49 PM
......

lameduck
09-07-2019, 06:52 PM
Do they look the same in pakistan as the ones in afghanistan? The afghan ones don’t look indian to me really

Pak Pashtuns are definitely west shifted than Pak Punjabi countrymen

Crowds of Pak Pashtuns

https://i.dawn.com/primary/2016/12/586433faefb36.jpg
https://khybernews.tv/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/parachinar-protest.jpg




Crowds from Pak Punjab

http://pu.edu.pk/images/image/press/February-19/1(28-02-19).jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJNrlAtXcAAXtl-.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nYkrj3fFlWs/TXYBSdZm7KI/AAAAAAAABIs/92g8WdAFJTg/s1600/DSC02559.JPG
https://c.tribune.com.pk/2010/05/Qadir-Magsi-360x252.jpg
http://img.dunyanews.tv/news/2017/December/12-07-17/news_big_images/417962_51479182.jpg

hussein khan
09-07-2019, 06:53 PM
Pak Pashtuns are definitely west shifted than Pak Punjabis

Crowds of Pak Pashtuns

https://i.dawn.com/primary/2016/12/586433faefb36.jpg
https://khybernews.tv/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/parachinar-protest.jpg




Crowds from Pak Punjab

http://pu.edu.pk/images/image/press/February-19/1(28-02-19).jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJNrlAtXcAAXtl-.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nYkrj3fFlWs/TXYBSdZm7KI/AAAAAAAABIs/92g8WdAFJTg/s1600/DSC02559.JPG
https://c.tribune.com.pk/2010/05/Qadir-Magsi-360x252.jpg
https://www.minhaj.net/images-db10/2018/PAT-youth-motorcycle-rally_23-March-2018_1.jpg

really dont look much different tbh.

We look almost the same as punjabis.

Seya
09-07-2019, 07:00 PM
Pak Pashtuns are definitely west shifted than Pak Punjabi countrymen

Crowds of Pak Pashtuns

https://i.dawn.com/primary/2016/12/586433faefb36.jpg
https://khybernews.tv/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/parachinar-protest.jpg




Crowds from Pak Punjab

http://pu.edu.pk/images/image/press/February-19/1(28-02-19).jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJNrlAtXcAAXtl-.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nYkrj3fFlWs/TXYBSdZm7KI/AAAAAAAABIs/92g8WdAFJTg/s1600/DSC02559.JPG
https://c.tribune.com.pk/2010/05/Qadir-Magsi-360x252.jpg
http://img.dunyanews.tv/news/2017/December/12-07-17/news_big_images/417962_51479182.jpg

as i expected. Punjabis look typically south asian/indian as i imagined while the Pashtuns look west asian/iranic.

hussein khan
09-07-2019, 07:05 PM
as i expected. Punjabis look typically south asian/indian as i imagined while the Pashtuns look west asian/iranic.

WHat are you talking about???:confused:

Almost none of the pashtuns look west asian, while almost all of them look no different from the punjabis.
You have to look better.

Markos
09-07-2019, 07:11 PM
really dont look much different tbh.

We look almost the same as punjabis.

Not true at all wth are you talking about :lol:. Are you a troll?

Seya
09-07-2019, 07:11 PM
WHat are you talking about???:confused:

Almost none of the pashtuns look west asian, while almost all of them look no different from the punjabis.
You have to look better.

how do this people
https://khybernews.tv/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/parachinar-protest.jpg
look the same as this to u?
http://pu.edu.pk/images/image/press/February-19/1(28-02-19).jpg
i don't get it...

hussein khan
09-07-2019, 07:16 PM
Not true at all wth are you talking about :lol:. Are you a troll?

No, im not.

Im just an bit suprised people say we dont look exactly like south asians. usually people say we do(and group us with punjabis too). Whenever some other afghans say we dont, the people saying we do call us "Owd". I always felt like we maybe are mostly owd though and i didnt want to go to the same pattern as myanthro, after i been lurking this forum.

But no, im not a troll.

hussein khan
09-07-2019, 07:17 PM
how do this people
https://khybernews.tv/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/parachinar-protest.jpg
look the same as this to u?
http://pu.edu.pk/images/image/press/February-19/1(28-02-19).jpg
i don't get it...

Well, guess we dont then…

Thambi
09-07-2019, 07:18 PM
No, im not.

Im just an bit suprised people say we dont look exactly like south asians. usually people say we do(and group us with punjabis too). Whenever some other afghans say we dont, the people saying we do call us "Owd". I always felt like we maybe are mostly owd though and i didnt want to go to the same pattern as myanthro, after i been lurking this forum.

But no, im not a troll.

are you seriously afghan/pashtun? You're literally the first pashtun member I've seen that wants to pull closer to south asians.

hussein khan
09-07-2019, 07:27 PM
are you seriously afghan/pashtun? You're literally the first pashtun member I've seen that wants to pull closer to south asians.

Thats because that most pashtuns or afghans dont care much when people mention our dna-results(our cluster and all) and everything else. TO them that doesnt matter at all. THey view themselves as distinct. I however kind of dont think like that. The fact that people point out these things make me think like the way i do. Also the fact people call us pashtuns owd by saying we dont look like punjabis at all(even many pashtuns will deny that. Obvs we have many pashtus looking like punjabis, tajiks included. But theyre apparently according to them, nowheere near majority or even 1/3. Maybe like 1/5 of pashtuns). Im just more recieveing towards the info there is about us pashtuns than other pashtuns do. Maybe its because i live in denmark im like that.

lameduck
09-07-2019, 07:43 PM
are you seriously afghan/pashtun? You're literally the first pashtun member I've seen that wants to pull closer to south asians.

there are two perspectives , one is regional and one is global e.g for non anthro white people all these groups are pretty similar and just like neighbours ,just like for non europeans italians and french are pretty similar but than there is regional perspective that is defined by natives who see each other in millions of numbers on daily basis and can even see subtle differences for them there are enough differences , Pashtuns are stereotype as lighter skinned in Punjab e.g if someone is lighter than average in Punjab people say looks more Pashtun.

Thambi
09-07-2019, 07:58 PM
there are two perspectives , one is regional and one is global e.g for non anthro white people all these groups are pretty similar and just like neighbours ,just like for non europeans italians and french are pretty similar but than there is regional perspective that is defined by natives who see each other in millions of numbers on daily basis and can even see subtle differences for them there are enough differences , Pashtuns are stereotype as lighter skinned in Punjab e.g if someone is lighter than average in Punjab people say looks more Pashtun.

yeah makes sense

Negah
09-08-2019, 10:48 PM
as i expected. Punjabis look typically south asian/indian as i imagined while the Pashtuns look west asian/iranic.

I think user Hussein Khan is trolling or has an agenda. He is not stating obvious facts

Negah
09-08-2019, 11:12 PM
Thats because that most pashtuns or afghans dont care much when people mention our dna-results(our cluster and all) and everything else. TO them that doesnt matter at all. THey view themselves as distinct. I however kind of dont think like that. The fact that people point out these things make me think like the way i do. Also the fact people call us pashtuns owd by saying we dont look like punjabis at all(even many pashtuns will deny that. Obvs we have many pashtus looking like punjabis, tajiks included. But theyre apparently according to them, nowheere near majority or even 1/3. Maybe like 1/5 of pashtuns). Im just more recieveing towards the info there is about us pashtuns than other pashtuns do. Maybe its because i live in denmark im like that.

Pashtuns definitely share much with all their neighbors including Punjabis and as lame said to a European we all look the same. Nevertheless, Punjabis are clearly a South Asian people who share certain elements with their northern and western neighbors. But they are south asians; however, one cannot say the same for Pashtuns or Balochis. IMO it would be factually erroneous

hussein khan
09-09-2019, 08:36 AM
Pashtuns definitely share much with all their neighbors including Punjabis and as lame said to a European we all look the same. Nevertheless, Punjabis are clearly a South Asian people who share certain elements with their northern and western neighbors. But they are south asians; however, one cannot say the same for Pashtuns or Balochis. IMO it would be factually erroneous

Im not trolling or having an agenda. Im just saying what people used to say and still say things about pashtuns. Im a bit suprised that non-pashtuns would say im wrong and all.

ALso, youre not afghan yourself, are you?