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DontFxxkWithWendy
06-23-2019, 06:48 PM
I was wondering which calculator you guys think is the most accurate. I’ve been researching both of the calculators and people tend to label them as the best calculators since they lack the ‘calculator effect’. As a reference, my heritage is mostly northwest European/colonial American with a maternal great grandpa that I highly suspect was an Italian Jew. I think my dad had a Jewish ancestor too.

I find it strange because Eurogenes K13 picks up my Levantine/Semitic component, but MDLP K23 reads it as Greek or Italian. I’m assuming the reason why is because I didn’t score any North African in MDLP K23; however, on FTDNA I got Sephardic and Middle Eastern results, and MyHeritage gave me North African and Middle Eastern results.

MDLP K23

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 31.88
2 European_Early_Farmers 29.11
3 Caucasian 24.12
4 South_Central_Asian 5.7
5 Near_East 3.7
6 Ancestral_Altaic 3.67
7 Archaic_African 0.63
8 Australoid 0.38
9 East_Siberian 0.37
10 Melano_Polynesian 0.34
11 Amerindian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_German ( ) 4.43
2 Frisian ( ) 5.06
3 Belgian ( ) 5.09
4 German-Volga ( ) 5.36
5 Irish ( ) 6.75
6 Dutch ( ) 6.88
7 English ( ) 7.26
8 North_German ( ) 7.89
9 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 8.06
10 North_European ( ) 8.98
11 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 9.41
12 Italian_North ( ) 9.47
13 Dane ( ) 9.94
14 Austrian ( ) 10.38
15 Norwegian_East ( ) 10.43
16 CEU ( ) 10.45
17 Swede ( ) 10.45
18 Welsh ( ) 10.58
19 British ( ) 10.81
20 French ( ) 10.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.3% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 18.7% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 1.58
2 70.5% British ( ) + 29.5% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) @ 1.61
3 71% Welsh ( ) + 29% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) @ 1.62
4 60.2% Orcadian ( ) + 39.8% Kosovar ( ) @ 1.67
5 75.6% Welsh ( ) + 24.4% Greek_Phokaia ( ) @ 1.69
6 77.5% British ( ) + 22.5% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 1.69
7 67.8% CEU ( ) + 32.2% Greek_Northwest ( ) @ 1.71
8 67% British ( ) + 33% Greek_Northwest ( ) @ 1.72
9 75.7% Welsh ( ) + 24.3% Greek ( ) @ 1.73
10 83.8% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 16.2% Cypriot ( ) @ 1.73
11 78.1% CEU ( ) + 21.9% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 1.74
12 75.3% British ( ) + 24.7% Greek ( ) @ 1.74
13 68.5% CEU ( ) + 31.5% Kosovar ( ) @ 1.75
14 71.2% Welsh ( ) + 28.8% Greek_Thessaly ( ) @ 1.75
15 73.6% Welsh ( ) + 26.4% Central_Greek ( ) @ 1.76
16 76.2% British ( ) + 23.8% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 1.77
17 70.7% British ( ) + 29.3% Greek_Thessaly ( ) @ 1.78
18 67.5% Welsh ( ) + 32.5% Greek_Northwest ( ) @ 1.78
19 80.3% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 19.7% Cretan ( ) @ 1.8
20 71.7% CEU ( ) + 28.3% Albanian_Tirana ( ) @ 1.81


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 31.88
2 European_Early_Farmers 29.11
3 Caucasian 24.12
4 South_Central_Asian 5.70
5 Near_East 3.70
6 Ancestral_Altaic 3.67


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 German-Volga_ @ 5.652163
2 Belgian_ @ 6.860766
3 Irish_ @ 7.111080
4 English_ @ 7.123405
5 Frisian_ @ 7.225930
6 English_Kent_GBR_ @ 7.239414
7 South_German_ @ 7.273637
8 English_Cornwall_GBR_ @ 7.401077
9 Welsh_ @ 7.939848
10 CEU_ @ 8.504112
11 North_European_ @ 8.618181
12 British_ @ 8.938962
13 French_ @ 9.060365
14 Italian_North_ @ 9.199681
15 Dutch_ @ 9.382843
16 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ @ 10.515367
17 Orcadian_ @ 11.123850
18 Austrian_ @ 12.635739
19 Norwegian_East_ @ 13.030628
20 North_German_ @ 13.107067

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% CEU_ +50% Italian_North_ @ 2.957273


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% English_Kent_GBR_ +25% Greek_Peloponnesos_ +25% Welsh_ @ 1.750126


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Frisian_ + Greek_Smyrna_ + Latvian_ + Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS_ @ 1.543927
2 Estonian_ + Frisian_ + Greek_Smyrna_ + Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS_ @ 1.573046
3 British_ + English_Kent_GBR_ + Italian_Abruzzo_ + North_German_ @ 1.703417
4 British_ + English_Cornwall_GBR_ + Italian_Abruzzo_ + North_German_ @ 1.724905
5 Belgian_ + Greek_Smyrna_ + Latvian_ + Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS_ @ 1.727647
6 English_Kent_GBR_ + Greek_Peloponnesos_ + Welsh_ + Welsh_ @ 1.729908
7 Balt_ + Basque_Spanish_ + Greek_Smyrna_ + Swede_Saami_ @ 1.734364
8 English_Kent_GBR_ + Italian_Abruzzo_ + North_German_ + Welsh_ @ 1.749171
9 English_Kent_GBR_ + English_Kent_GBR_ + Greek_Peloponnesos_ + Welsh_ @ 1.750126
10 British_ + British_ + Italian_Abruzzo_ + North_German_ @ 1.756867
11 CEU_ + English_Kent_GBR_ + Greek_Peloponnesos_ + Welsh_ @ 1.762990
12 Frisian_ + Greek_Peloponnesos_ + Welsh_ + Welsh_ @ 1.764112
13 English_Cornwall_GBR_ + English_Kent_GBR_ + Greek_Peloponnesos_ + Welsh_ @ 1.765714
14 Frisian_ + Italian_Abruzzo_ + Orcadian_ + South_German_ @ 1.767315
15 British_ + Italian_Abruzzo_ + North_German_ + Welsh_ @ 1.768057
16 CEU_ + English_Kent_GBR_ + Italian_Abruzzo_ + North_German_ @ 1.776234
17 CEU_ + English_Cornwall_GBR_ + Italian_Abruzzo_ + North_German_ @ 1.777665
18 English_Kent_GBR_ + Greek_Peloponnesos_ + Irish_ + Welsh_ @ 1.793460
19 Basque_French_ + Belarusian_ + Greek_Smyrna_ + Swede_Saami_ @ 1.796136
20 English_Cornwall_GBR_ + English_Kent_GBR_ + Italian_Abruzzo_ + North_German_ @ 1.797184

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 44.22
2 Baltic 19.58
3 West_Med 14.72
4 East_Med 10.98
5 West_Asian 5.64
6 Red_Sea 2.05
7 Siberian 1.47
8 Oceanian 0.78
9 Northeast_African 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 4.06
2 South_Dutch 4.35
3 French 5.36
4 Southeast_English 8.62
5 Southwest_English 10.23
6 North_German 10.49
7 Orcadian 10.85
8 North_Dutch 11.2
9 Danish 11.26
10 Austrian 11.44
11 Irish 11.89
12 West_Scottish 11.97
13 Spanish_Cataluna 12.72
14 East_German 13.46
15 Norwegian 13.66
16 Portuguese 13.71
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 13.85
18 Spanish_Galicia 14.1
19 Swedish 14.63
20 Spanish_Murcia 14.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.1% Orcadian + 21.9% Italian_Jewish @ 1.7
2 83.3% Southeast_English + 16.7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.79
3 81.9% Southeast_English + 18.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.83
4 83.5% Southeast_English + 16.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 1.96
5 82% Southeast_English + 18% Italian_Jewish @ 1.96
6 78.1% Orcadian + 21.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.02
7 79.8% Orcadian + 20.2% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.07
8 86.3% Southeast_English + 13.7% Samaritan @ 2.1
9 82.5% Southeast_English + 17.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.12
10 78.8% Orcadian + 21.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.14
11 77.2% Southwest_English + 22.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.2
12 86.6% Southeast_English + 13.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.22
13 80.2% Southeast_English + 19.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.23
14 76.5% West_Scottish + 23.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.24
15 80% Orcadian + 20% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.28
16 77.5% Southeast_English + 22.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.35
17 74.2% West_Scottish + 25.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.35
18 85% Southeast_English + 15% Cyprian @ 2.37
19 86% Southeast_English + 14% Palestinian @ 2.37
20 73% Orcadian + 27% West_Sicilian @ 2.38

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 44.22
2 Baltic 19.58
3 West_Med 14.72
4 East_Med 10.98
5 West_Asian 5.64
6 Red_Sea 2.05
7 Siberian 1.47


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 West_German @ 4.531948
2 South_Dutch @ 4.893665
3 French @ 5.888186
4 Southeast_English @ 9.866677
5 Southwest_English @ 11.824206
6 North_German @ 11.918035
7 Orcadian @ 12.483158
8 North_Dutch @ 12.819818
9 Danish @ 12.829230
10 Austrian @ 12.977222
11 Irish @ 13.686473
12 West_Scottish @ 13.805479
13 Spanish_Cataluna @ 14.177918
14 East_German @ 15.265279
15 Portuguese @ 15.343491
16 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 15.421873
17 Norwegian @ 15.596679
18 Spanish_Galicia @ 15.715588
19 Swedish @ 16.676901
20 Spanish_Murcia @ 16.760273

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French +50% West_German @ 3.611653


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +25% West_Scottish +25% West_Sicilian @ 2.365034


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Ashkenazi + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.181050
2 Ashkenazi + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.211677
3 Ashkenazi + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.248798
4 Italian_Jewish + Norwegian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.272592
5 Ashkenazi + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.286679
6 Ashkenazi + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.297783
7 Italian_Jewish + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.332674
8 Italian_Jewish + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.332791
9 Italian_Jewish + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.342513
10 Ashkenazi + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.360630
11 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Sicilian @ 2.365034
12 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_Sicilian @ 2.376927
13 Italian_Jewish + Norwegian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.385068
14 Italian_Jewish + Norwegian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.415180
15 North_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_Sicilian @ 2.426203
16 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_Sicilian @ 2.426979
17 Ashkenazi + Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.467303
18 Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Sicilian @ 2.468491
19 Ashkenazi + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.479809
20 Ashkenazi + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.488051