Classify Freddie Mercury

[palm princess]

http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/freddie-mercury/images/31872927/title/freddie-mercury-hq-photo88984

[Ayetooey]

Pure indo european.

[Defiance]

He always looked like a white guy to me. Dinaro-Mediterranean?


Pure indo european.
What exactly does this mean?

[Corded]

Irano-nordoid + CM + taurid

[Oghuz]

Very Iranid

[RenaRyuguu]

Birth Name: Farrokh Bulsara

Date of Birth: 5 September, 1946

Place of Birth: Stone Town, Sultanate of Zanzibar (now Tanzania)

Date of Death: 24 November, 1991

Place of Death: Kensington, London, England, U.K.

Ethnicity: Parsi Indian

he used voodoo in his music but what do I know...

https://ethnicelebs.com/freddie-mercury

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[RenaRyuguu]

Sadly Iranian Indian mix

[Decius]

Iranid

[RenaRyuguu]

If he was pure Iranian he wouldn't use Indian voodoo in his music


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM2W7Kmnk_E

he wrote it to get revenge on England screams

[RenaRyuguu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT0uO7ysjt4

[Decius]

He looks very Iranian and not indian. Indians are brown and have different features.

[RenaRyuguu]

Will Bohemian Rhapsody release in India? - Quora

https://www.quora.com/Will-Bohemian-Rhapsody-release-in-India

http://sterlingsop.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/freddie-mercury-child.jpg

He is a quarter Indian at least

[RenaRyuguu]

Why did Freddie Mercury change his name?

https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Freddie-Mercury-change-his-name

[Joso]

Pure indo european.

he would have neolithic admixture

[Joso]

Pure indo european.

True Indo-European face:
http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/46/463/463647/Teigen_858.jpg

[PaleoEuropean]

Very Iranid

I always thought he was Iranian but he is Indian, probably Mughal or Indo-Aryan

[Ayetooey]

True Indo-European face:
..

More like this.

https://live.staticflickr.com/2680/4112342328_a5b605e44d_n.jpg

[RenaRyuguu]

More like this.

https://live.staticflickr.com/2680/4112342328_a5b605e44d_n.jpg

True more like Japanese

[PaleoEuropean]

After his nose job (and aids prolly) he looks like a straight up Paki

https://i.imgur.com/EbJIoiH.jpg

[Joso]

More like this.

https://live.staticflickr.com/2680/4112342328_a5b605e44d_n.jpg

This one is more like O-M122

[rajputprincess]

I always thought he was Iranian but he is Indian, probably Mughal or Indo-AryanHe is mostly irani heritage wise his people were refugee in india from iran didn't mixed that much with native.

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[PaleoEuropean]

He is mostly irani heritage wise his people were refugee in india from iran didn't mixed that much with native.

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Yea when he had the nose job he looks 100% Pakistani

[MS85]

He looks Dravidian

[RenaRyuguu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBAj4nbdLEU

[Joso]

More like this.

https://live.staticflickr.com/2680/4112342328_a5b605e44d_n.jpg

Norwegian singer Jahn Teigen( Norwegian are one of the most Indo-European ethnicities of Europe hand in hand with the Irish and the southern Swede):
http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/46/463/463647/Teigen_858.jpg
A Scythian man in comparison:
http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/pic%5CS%5CC%5CScythian%20man%20from%20Nikopol%20ku rhan%20(reconstruction).jpg

[Adamastor]

Iranid.

[Oghuz]

I always thought he was Iranian but he is Indian, probably Mughal or Indo-Aryan

He is ethnically Persian whose family settled in India centuries ago. Persians in India are 100 % pure as far as paternal lines are considered but 55 % indian, maternally. This is why Freddie is brachycephalic. He is like Iranid mostly but has indo brachid tendencies as well.

[Hungus]

Yea when he had the nose job he looks 100% PakistaniHe never had any nose job. Loosing and gaining a lot of weight changes your nose shape considerably. And no, he never looked particularly Pakistani(that again depends because Pakistan is too diverse so unless you specify an ethnicity it is difficult,but in no way did he look like an average Pakistani) at any point.
I would classify him as Iranid+Armenid+ CM. Kind of almost like Borat.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190802/6b18f5d94a730ce31749ba3721f6954b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190802/4278948b57ba51a0916d5c0188ab38af.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190802/6da82b84d2c4753a2d8bc8050f6a0e35.jpg

[Hungus]

He is ethnically Persian whose family settled in India centuries ago. Persians in India are 100 % pure as far as paternal lines are considered but 55 % indian, maternally. This is why Freddie is brachycephalic. He is like Iranid mostly but has indo brachid tendencies as well.

If you are considering mtDNA as "maternal lineage" then that doesnt account autosomal DNA(which is inherited from both mother and father), which counts for most of the total DNA(along with Y-DNA as well) and is almost purely iranic in the case of parsis. So the modern estimate of their maternal lines would be around 25-30% indian.

Read on-


Results
Among present-day populations, the Parsis are genetically closest to Iranian and the Caucasus populations rather than their South Asian neighbors. They also share the highest number of haplotypes with present-day Iranians and we estimate that the admixture of the Parsis with Indian populations occurred ~1,200 years ago. Enriched homozygosity in the Parsi reflects their recent isolation and inbreeding. We also observed 48% South-Asian-specific mitochondrial lineages among the ancient samples, which might have resulted from the assimilation of local females during the initial settlement. Finally, we show that Parsis are genetically closer to Neolithic Iranians than to modern Iranians, who have witnessed a more recent wave of admixture from the Near East.

https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-017-1244-9

[turbosat]

If you are considering mtDNA as "maternal lineage" then according to the latest study done on this subject states it to be close to 25% of the mtDNA to be south asian in origin.

Read on-

https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-017-1244-9


According to what I read before in a Pakistani newspaper, the Parsis in Pakistani originally migrated there from Bombay or Gujarat.
I have seen the 55% Indian maternal lines before. It must have been an older study.

In study it says

A study of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) variation reported 60% of South Asia lineages among the Pakistani Parsi population [23 (https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-017-1244-9#ref-CR23)], whereas the male lineages based on Y chromosome admixture estimates were almost exclusively Iranian [22 (https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-017-1244-9#ref-CR22)]. Based on these results, a male-mediated migration followed by assimilation of local South Asia females was concluded [23 (https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-017-1244-9#ref-CR23)].


Table S11 and supplementary text). Interestingly, we observed 48% South-Asian-specific lineages (haplogroups M2, M3, M5, and R5) among the ancient Parsi samples, which could potentially be explained in two ways. First, these haplogroups might have been carried by the migration of Zoroastrian refugees from Fars (Iran), a possibility that is supported by the presence of these clades in present-day Persian samples (9.9%) [34 (https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-017-1244-9#ref-CR34)]. Second, they might have resulted from the assimilation of local females during the initial settlement. The comparison of ancient and modern samples thus identified maternal lineages that can be considered as founding (surviving or lost), as well as those that were subsequently assimilated



Results

Among present-day populations, the Parsis are genetically closest to Iranian and the Caucasus populations rather than their South Asian neighbors. They also share the highest number of haplotypes with present-day Iranians and we estimate that the admixture of the Parsis with Indian populations occurred ~1,200 years ago. Enriched homozygosity in the Parsi reflects their recent isolation and inbreeding. We also observed 48% South-Asian-specific mitochondrial lineages among the ancient samples, which might have resulted from the assimilation of local females during the initial settlement. Finally, we show that Parsis are genetically closer to Neolithic Iranians than to modern Iranians, who have witnessed a more recent wave of admixture from the Near East.

[Kivan]

He is not Iranid, look at his skull and forehead:
https://static.gigwise.com/artists/freddie325.jpg
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/34E9/production/_107454531_d1d6d7b2-24c5-464a-93f0-836d5c0da9c3.jpg
https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cg_face%2Cq_auto:good%2 Cw_300/MTE5NDg0MDU1MDY3MDY3OTE5/freddie-mercury-9406228-1-402.jpg


Dinaro-Med + something Oriental.
I never thought he was Iranian when i saw him for the first time.

[Hungus]

According to what I read before in a Pakistani newspaper, the Parsis in Pakistani originally migrated there from Bombay or Gujarat.
I have seen the 55% Indian maternal lines before. It must have been an older study.

In study it says

But it is mtDNA that is estimated to be 48% anyway, mtDNA(inherited from the mother) forms a very small part of the total DNA composition. Hence mtDNA alone does not determine maternal lineages. Although it is useful in doing so.
The tests conducted on parsis show autosomal DNA(inherited from both mother and father) and Y-DNA(inherited from father) to be 100% of some form of iranic/persian. Autosomal DNA forms the chunk of the total DNA in terms of lineage. So for the most part they are about 80-85% iranic and 15-20% indic western coastal on average. After taking into account most factors.



It has been suggested previously that the Islamic conquest had a major genomic impact on several Middle Eastern populations, including Iranians [32]. Since Parsis diverged from Iranians just after this conquest, they may represent the genetic strata of Iran before the Islamic conquest. To test this scenario, we applied a formal test of admixturef3 statistics (Additional file1: Table S5). For Iranians, a negative value with significantZscores supports the hypothesis that they are descendants of a population formed by the admixture of Neolithic Iranians and populations from the Arabian Peninsula, while for Parsis this test was positive with significantZscores. Therefore, it seems plausible that the additional light blue component we see in ADMIXTURE (Fig.3) may have been introduced to Iran after the exile of the Parsis, likely via a recent gene flow from the Arabian Peninsula [32,33,34]. Two independent studies have recently reported data from ancient Iranian samples [36,37]. It was suggested that the early Neolithic Zagros sample showed closer affinity with the Iranian Zoroastrians [36]. Here we estimated theDvalues of Parsis for Neolithic Iranians vs modern Iranians to compare the allele sharing. Our results demonstrated a significant level of genetic affinity between Parsis and Neolithic Iranians (Table2and Additional file1: supplementary text and Table S6). The outgroupf3 statistics of ancient Iranian samples supported the close affinity of the Parsis with Neolithic Iranians (Additional file1: Supplementary text, Figure S3, and Table S6). Moreover, for modern populations, the outgroupf3 statistic test and identity-by-state plots supported the closer affinity of the Parsis with the West Eurasian populations than South Asians (Additional file1: Figure S4 and S5). To compare the shared drift with Iranian and Indian (South Munda) populations (Additional file1: Figure S6; see Additional file1: supplementary text for justification of the use of South Munda to represent Indian ancestry), we plotted the derived allele sharing values of Parsis and other Eurasian populations calculated with respect to the Iranian and South Munda (Indian) populations (Additional file1: supplementary text and Figure S6).


https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-017-1244-9/tables/2

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[tipirneni]

Distinctly Iranid some Indid

[lameduck]

He never had any nose job. Loosing and gaining a lot of weight changes your nose shape considerably. And no, he never looked particularly Pakistani(that again depends because Pakistan is too diverse so unless you specify an ethnicity it is difficult,but in no way did he look like an average Pakistani) at any point.
I would classify him as Iranid+Armenid+ CM. Kind of almost like Borat.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190802/6b18f5d94a730ce31749ba3721f6954b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190802/4278948b57ba51a0916d5c0188ab38af.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190802/6da82b84d2c4753a2d8bc8050f6a0e35.jpg

yes his features are not pakistani at all, he looks distinctively iranian/west asian.

[Adamastor]

He is not Iranid, look at his skull and forehead:

Dinaro-Med + something Oriental.
I never thought he was Iranian when i saw him for the first time.

Actually most people outside of India/Iran are unaware of Freddie's Parsi roots. People think he is just ''white'' in many western countries.

Maybe classifications are skewed because people here know he is of Iranian/Indian background.

[Richmondbread]

Looks Distant Iranian or something. Something middle eastern about him. Pontid, i suppose.

[Smaug]

I always thought he was Iranian but he is Indian, probably Mughal or Indo-Aryan

He was Farsi.

[Quiro_Brianza]

Iranian, he looks straight out of Teheran


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[RenaRyuguu]

Iranian Indian. not full Iranian.

[Quiro_Brianza]

Iranian Indian. not full Iranian.

You are right, he has a bit of indian heritage. [emoji848]

[turbosat]

But it is mtDNA that is estimated to be 48% anyway, mtDNA(inherited from the mother) forms a very small part of the total DNA composition. Hence mtDNA alone does not determine maternal lineages. Although it is useful in doing so.
The tests conducted on parsis show autosomal DNA(inherited from both mother and father) and Y-DNA(inherited from father) to be 100% of some form of iranic/persian. Autosomal DNA forms the chunk of the total DNA in terms of lineage. So for the most part they are about 80-85% iranic and 15-20% indic western coastal on average. After taking into account most factors.



https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-017-1244-9/tables/2

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But it is mtDNA that is estimated to be 48% anyway, mtDNA(inherited from the mother) forms a very small part of the total DNA composition. Hence mtDNA alone does not determine maternal lineages. Although it is useful in doing so.
The tests conducted on parsis show autosomal DNA(inherited from both mother and father) and Y-DNA(inherited from father) to be 100% of some form of iranic/persian. Autosomal DNA forms the chunk of the total DNA in terms of lineage. So for the most part they are about 80-85% iranic and 15-20% indic western coastal on average. After taking into account most factors.



https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-017-1244-9/tables/2

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It clearly says 48% not 25% in the study. Its nothing to do with mtDNA forming a small part of the total DNA composition. Maternal lineages are categorised based on the mtDNA haplogroups. mtDNA haplogroup M lines in South Asia are classified as Indian / South Asian, but also some other non-M mtDNA lines in India are classified as Indian / South Asian.

First study took the 60% mtDNA and 55% mtDNA for Parsis from this study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1181978/
This study has Parsis from Pakistan (Karachi) and it says they have 60% South Asian maternal haplgroups of which 55% is mtDNA M.



western Eurasian (HV, pre-HV, N1, J-T, U-K, I, W, and X), the South Asian (M*, U2a-c, U9, R*, R1-R2, R5-R6, N1d, and HV2), the eastern Eurasian (M-CDGZ, A, B, F, and N9a) and the sub-Saharan African (L1, L2, and L3A) lineages.


In contrast to the parallelism between mtDNA and Y-chromosomal data in most populations, the Parsis and the Makrani both show a sharp contrast between these loci. The Parsis live in southeastern Pakistan, and historical records indicate an Iranian origin (Nanavutty 1997 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1181978/#RF58)). These followers of the prophet Zoroaster started their migration from Iran in the 7th century a.d., settling in the northwestern Indian province of Gujarat around 900 a.d. and eventually moving to Mumbai in India and Karachi in Pakistan. Y-chromosome data show that they resemble Iranian populations rather than their neighbors in Pakistan: an admixture estimate of 100% from Iran was obtained (Qamar et al. 2002 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1181978/#RF62)), supporting the historical records. However, when the Parsi mtDNA pool was compared with those of the Iranians and Gujaratis (their putative parental populations), a strong contrast with the Y-chromosomal data emerged. About 60% of their maternal gene pool belongs to South Asian haplogroups, which make up only 7% of the combined Iranian sample (table 2 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1181978/table/TB2/)). The very high frequency of haplogroup M among the Parsis (55%), similar to those of Indian populations and much higher than that of the combined Iranian sample (1.7%), highlights their close affinities with India (fig. 6 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1181978/figure/FG6/)). Our results lead to an admixture estimate of 100% from Gujarat and provide a strong contrast between the maternal and paternal components of this population. Although the small population size of the Parsis (a few thousand) may have distorted haplogroup frequencies in this population, diversity of both Y-chromosome and mtDNA lineages remains high, making a strong drift effect unlikely. Our results therefore support a male-mediated migration of the ancestors of the present-day Parsi population from Iran to India, where they admixed with local females, or directional mating in Gujarat between Iranian males and local women, leading ultimately to the loss of mtDNAs of Iranian origin.

Going back to your original study https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-017-1244-9.


The present-day Iranian population exhibited a striking difference from the Parsis, mainly in carrying an additional European component (light blue) and substantially lower South Asian ancestry (dark green) (Fig. 3 (https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-017-1244-9#Fig3) and Additional file 1 (https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-017-1244-9#MOESM1): Figure S2a and Table S4).


The quantitative estimation of South Indian and Iranian ancestries among Parsis and their South Asian neighbors showed a significant level of differentiation in ancestry composition with an inclination of Parsis towards Iranian ancestry (two-tailed P < 0.0001) (Table 1 (https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-017-1244-9#Tab1) and Additional file 1 (https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-017-1244-9#MOESM1): Supplementary text).


They made a table for "South Indian (SE)" vs "Iranian (SE)" for which they used South Indian tribal like Paniya, Malayan and Pulliyar to work out the "South Indian (SE)" proportion. I would have expected Sindhi to have higher South Indian (SE) than Pathan. Perhaps their samples for Sindhi were mixed with Baloch or Brahui without them knowing.



Table 1 The South Indian and Iranian ancestry among Parsis and neighboring populations

From: “Like sugar in milk”: reconstructing the genetic history of the Parsi population (https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13059-017-1244-9)


Population (X)
South Indian (SE)
Iranian (SE)


Pathan
31 (2.4)
56.5 (1.8)


Sindhi
22.9 (2.7)
63.1 (1.9)


Parsi (Pakistan)
6.4 (2.4)
76.6 (1.5)


Parsi (India)
8.8 (2.5)
74.6 (1.7)


Gujarati
58.1 (2)
34.3 (1.6)






South Indian ancestry: (Yoruba, Papua; X, French/Yoruba, Papua; South India, French)
Iranian ancestry: (Yoruba, Papua; X, South India/Yoruba, Papua; Iranian, South India)

[Richmondbread]

Mercury couldn't decide if he was straight or gay.

[Babak]

Yea when he had the nose job he looks 100% Pakistani

Freddie mercury never had a nose job. But anyways, he looks like a typical west asian.