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Aspirin
06-28-2019, 07:45 PM
Need to thank the user Ion Basescul for these reults.

Three Grandparents from Moldova one from Ukraine, locality of origin unspecified.
https://pp.userapi.com/c858220/v858220512/2aae/_09V2z4o2bE.jpg

Origins: Telenești and Dubăsari districts, central part of the country.

https://pp.userapi.com/c858220/v858220512/2a97/hZPNraiXPGM.jpg

Origins: Orhei and Telenești districts, central part of the country.

https://pp.userapi.com/c858220/v858220512/2a9e/HC4Z-rWotjc.jpg

Origins: Strășeni and Rezina districts, central part of the country.

https://pp.userapi.com/c858220/v858220512/2a81/BHeNSHMKnKI.jpg

Four Grandparents from Moldova, locality of origin unspecified.
https://pp.userapi.com/c858220/v858220512/2a90/Pg57uYWAyuI.jpg

Locality of origin unspecified.
https://pp.userapi.com/c858220/v858220512/2aa6/MoKyhZ1Or_k.jpg

Locality of origin unspecified.
https://pp.userapi.com/c858220/v858220512/2a88/jUzP8_2_oj0.jpg

Not a Cop
06-29-2019, 12:56 PM
That Ashkenazi is interesting.

Jana
06-29-2019, 12:59 PM
Need to thank the user Ion Basescul for these reults.

Origins: Orhei and Telenești districts, central part of the country.

https://pp.userapi.com/c858220/v858220512/2a9e/HC4Z-rWotjc.jpg

Origins: Strășeni and Rezina districts, central part of the country.

https://pp.userapi.com/c858220/v858220512/2a81/BHeNSHMKnKI.jpg



Wow I score very similary like those central Moldovans. Especially first one, almost same percentages and he scores minor German too just like me. Really interesting!

Aspirin
06-29-2019, 01:06 PM
Wow I score very similary like those central Moldovans. Especially first one, almost same percentages and he scores minor German too just like me. Really interesting!

These with high East Euro are clearly recent mixed, or are from the Northern part of the country. I said many time, that the average from Eurogenes is far from reality. People from central part of the country are the most unmixed one, and have very similar results. Saddly I don't have any information about persons with high East Euro, and high Blakan. And weird to see so low percent of East Asian, knowing the history of this region.

Aspirin
06-29-2019, 01:14 PM
Wow I score very similary like those central Moldovans. Especially first one, almost same percentages and he scores minor German too just like me. Really interesting!

I live in this region too, but a little bit Northen, my origins are from Fălești (father) and Sīngerei (mother) districts. I think, I will have similar results.

Aspirin
06-29-2019, 01:18 PM
That Ashkenazi is interesting.

Here lived plenty of Jews in the past, but I don't know if these people have some Jewish ancestry.

Jana
06-29-2019, 01:22 PM
These with high East Euro are clearly recent mixed, or are from the Northern part of the country. I said many time, that the average from Eurogenes is far from reality. People from central part of the country are the most unmixed one, and have very similar results. Saddly I don't have any information about persons with high East Euro, and high Blakan. And weird to see so low percent of East Asian, knowing the history of this region.

23andme tends to underestimate minor percentages, to give you clearer results. There is chance these Moldovans would score some minor east eurasian on gedmatch.
I am really looking forward to your results by the way :)

Aspirin
06-29-2019, 01:44 PM
23andme tends to underestimate minor percentages, to give you clearer results. There is chance these Moldovans would score some minor east eurasian on gedmatch.
I am really looking forward to your results by the way :)

On Anthrogenica (https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?6722-Romanian-23andme&highlight=romanian+23andme) exist a good thread with 23andme results of Romanians frome every corner of the country. "East Romanians" are Moldavians, and these from Sothern part have visible mongoloid admixture. Plus on average Romanian Moldavians score between 20 and 30/35% East Euro, some of them have even 45% East Euro. These similarities are the reason why I believe that all this East Euro component is not recent, but old, from Middle Ages (XIV-XV centuries).

Not a Cop
06-29-2019, 01:47 PM
Here lived plenty of Jews in the past, but I don't know if these people have some Jewish ancestry.

Ashkenazi component is very specific, so most likely its real.

WeirdLookingFellow
06-29-2019, 01:56 PM
You aren't wrong, mate. There is an attested legend where when Dragoș Vodă came to the land that became Moldova, he met a Pole or a Ruthenian and asked him if the land is populated. The Pole/Ruthenian said no, so Dragoș told him that he will colonize the land. Apparently that Ruthenian went to the Kingdom of Poland ( as there was no Ukraine at the time ) and came back with colonizers. It is said that Moldova was made half by Vlachs and half by Ruthenians, with the Ruthenians in the north and Vlachs in the south.

If you do travel northwards from South Moldova you do start seeing a larger proportion of blue eyes and light hair. Unfortunately I couldn't find more proper genetic studies on Romanians apart from that Moldavian one that only took samples from the Neamț county, which is arguably middle ground.

Lemgrant
06-29-2019, 02:27 PM
my biggest match on myheritage is a Moldovan. He has family tree and all 4 surnames are Moldavian/Romanian.
https://i.imgur.com/6ps9gNe.png

Shared DNA: 62cM, Shared segments: 6, Largest segment: 24.6‎ cM

https://i.imgur.com/ZxCBUaQ.png

But on Gedmatch I match him only on one chromosome with 20.4 cM


Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 20.4 cM (0.569 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 4.7

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

his Eurogenes K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 20.92 Pct
Baltic 28.56 Pct
West_Med 14.80 Pct
West_Asian 9.67 Pct
East_Med 22.16 Pct
Red_Sea 0.86 Pct
South_Asian 1.64 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.64 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.75 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.96
2 Romanian 6.65
3 Serbian 8.19
4 Moldavian 11.49
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.97
6 Croatian 14.04
7 Hungarian 14.84
8 Austrian 18.68
9 Tuscan 19.57
10 Central_Greek 19.7
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.81
12 Italian_Abruzzo 19.9
13 East_German 20.1
14 North_Italian 20.44
15 South_Polish 20.46
16 Ukrainian 20.72
17 East_Sicilian 20.83
18 Ashkenazi 20.96
19 West_Sicilian 21.12
20 Southwest_Russian 22.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.6% Ashkenazi + 47.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.4
2 52.2% Ashkenazi + 47.8% Southwest_Russian @ 3.47
3 55.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 44.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.72
4 55.6% Southwest_Russian + 44.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.75
5 50.3% Ukrainian + 49.7% Ashkenazi @ 3.78
6 59.6% Ashkenazi + 40.4% Lithuanian @ 3.83
7 54.8% Ashkenazi + 45.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.88
8 55.1% Ashkenazi + 44.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.98
9 55.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 44.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 4
10 55.6% Southwest_Russian + 44.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.02
11 55.6% Ashkenazi + 44.4% Belorussian @ 4.09
12 62.2% South_Polish + 37.8% Cyprian @ 4.09
13 51.2% Southwest_Russian + 48.8% South_Italian @ 4.11
14 64.6% Greek_Thessaly + 35.4% Southwest_Russian @ 4.15
15 50.6% South_Polish + 49.4% Ashkenazi @ 4.21
16 62% Ukrainian + 38% Cyprian @ 4.22
17 74% Croatian + 26% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.26
18 65% Greek_Thessaly + 35% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.32
19 53.4% Ashkenazi + 46.6% Polish @ 4.35
20 53.8% Central_Greek + 46.2% Southwest_Russian @ 4.37

Eurogenes k15:


Population
North_Sea 10.14 Pct
Atlantic 17.92 Pct
Baltic 18.26 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.79 Pct
West_Med 10.73 Pct
West_Asian 9.63 Pct
East_Med 17.85 Pct
Red_Sea 1.26 Pct
South_Asian 0.94 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.47 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.87
2 Romanian 7.24
3 Serbian 9.46
4 Greek 11.38
5 Moldavian 12.47
6 Croatian 13.11
7 Greek_Thessaly 13.4
8 Austrian 13.85
9 Hungarian 15.47
10 Tuscan 16.7
11 Italian_Abruzzo 17.01
12 Ashkenazi 17.44
13 Central_Greek 17.62
14 West_Sicilian 17.95
15 North_Italian 17.97
16 East_Sicilian 18.59
17 South_Polish 19.2
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.26
19 East_German 19.6
20 Ukrainian 20

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.2% Greek + 34.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.47
2 67.6% Greek + 32.4% Belorussian @ 3.52
3 67.7% Greek + 32.3% Estonian_Polish @ 3.58
4 66% Greek + 34% Southwest_Russian @ 3.61
5 65.4% Greek + 34.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.71
6 70.9% Greek + 29.1% Lithuanian @ 3.89
7 66.5% Greek + 33.5% Polish @ 4.39
8 50.2% Russian_Smolensk + 49.8% South_Italian @ 4.39
9 52.7% South_Italian + 47.3% Estonian_Polish @ 4.45
10 69.3% Greek + 30.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.57
11 52.6% South_Italian + 47.4% Belorussian @ 4.65
12 54.6% Russian_Smolensk + 45.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.66
13 53.7% West_Sicilian + 46.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.67
14 55.2% Russian_Smolensk + 44.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.69
15 50.7% South_Italian + 49.3% Southwest_Russian @ 4.71
16 50.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.9% South_Italian @ 4.79
17 64.3% Greek + 35.7% South_Polish @ 4.83
18 71.7% Greek + 28.3% Estonian @ 4.83
19 70.8% Greek + 29.2% Erzya @ 4.87
20 54.5% West_Sicilian + 45.5% Southwest_Russian @ 4.89

mdlp k16:


Population
Amerindian -
Ancestor -
Steppe 15.70 Pct
Indian 2.03 Pct
Arctic 0.09 Pct
Australian -
Caucasian 35.05 Pct
EastAfrican -
NorthEastEuropean 19.97 Pct
NearEast 2.16 Pct
Neolithic 24.46 Pct
NorthAfrican -
Oceanic 0.50 Pct
Siberian -
SouthEastAsian -
Subsaharian -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 3.3
2 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 3.64
3 Macedonian (Macedonia) 4.49
4 Gagauz (Gagauzia) 5.21
5 Romanian (Romania) 6.03
6 Romanian (Gorj) 6.06
7 Kosovar (Kosovo) 6.07
8 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 6.16
9 Serbian (Serbia) 6.6
10 Romanian (Apuseni) 6.71
11 Greek (Thessaloniki) 7.04
12 Albanian (Albania) 7.21
13 Greek (Greece) 7.53
14 Moldavian (Molodva) 7.62
15 Greek (Peloponnes) 7.92
16 Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 8.44
17 Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 8.67
18 Italian (Friul) 8.73
19 Greek (Macedonia) 8.84
20 Croat (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 8.99

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.8% Serbian (Serbia) + 16.2% Georgian (Megrelia) @ 2.3
2 84.7% Serbian (Serbia) + 15.3% Turk (Trabzon) @ 2.31
3 91.3% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 8.7% Lezgin (Dagestan) @ 2.33
4 90.9% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 9.1% Tabasaran (Dagestan) @ 2.34
5 92.6% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 7.4% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) @ 2.37
6 93% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 7% Georgian (Kakheti) @ 2.38
7 80.5% Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) + 19.5% Turk (Trabzon) @ 2.38
8 93% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 7% Georgian (Georgia) @ 2.38
9 92.8% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 7.2% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) @ 2.39
10 91.8% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 8.2% Azerbaijani_Dagestan (Azerbaijan_Dagestan) @ 2.4
11 93.8% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 6.2% Iran_Mazandrani (Mazandrani) @ 2.41
12 92.8% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 7.2% Adjar (Adjaria) @ 2.42
13 84% Serbian (Serbia) + 16% Armenian (Armenia) @ 2.42
14 91.5% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 8.5% Lak (Dagestan) @ 2.43
15 93.4% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 6.6% Azerbaijani (Baku) @ 2.44
16 93.3% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 6.7% Georgians (Zugdidi) @ 2.44
17 91.2% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 8.8% Ava (Dagestan_Khunzakh) @ 2.44
18 91.3% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 8.7% Avar (Dagestan_Gergebil) @ 2.45
19 93.2% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 6.8% Chechen (Chechnya) @ 2.46
20 92.8% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 7.2% Zoroastrian (Iran) @ 2.46

mdlp k23b


Population
Amerindian 0.14 Pct
Ancestral_Altaic 1.92 Pct
South_Central_Asian 5.59 Pct
Arctic -
South_Indian -
Australoid -
Austronesian -
Caucasian 36.49 Pct
Archaic_Human 0.16 Pct
East_African -
East_Siberian 1.57 Pct
European_Early_Farmers 16.96 Pct
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian 1.23 Pct
Archaic_African -
Near_East 4.55 Pct
North_African 1.25 Pct
Paleo_Siberian -
African_Pygmy -
South_East_Asian -
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic -
European_Hunters_Gatherers 30.14 Pct

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.49
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 30.14
3 European_Early_Farmers 16.96
4 South_Central_Asian 5.59
5 Near_East 4.55
6 Ancestral_Altaic 1.92
7 East_Siberian 1.57
8 North_African 1.25
9 Melano_Polynesian 1.23
10 Archaic_Human 0.16
11 Amerindian 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian ( ) 4.09
2 Macedonian ( ) 4.34
3 Montenegrian ( ) 5.98
4 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 6.43
5 Gagauz ( ) 6.66
6 Serb_BH ( ) 7.18
7 Croat_BH ( ) 7.33
8 Bosnian ( ) 7.38
9 Croat ( ) 7.42
10 Romanian ( ) 7.71
11 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 7.81
12 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 7.95
13 Serb_Serbia ( ) 8.15
14 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 8.17
15 Greek_Northwest ( ) 8.92
16 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 9.03
17 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 9.53
18 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 9.56
19 Central_Greek ( ) 9.74
20 Kosovar ( ) 10.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.8% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 20.2% Armenian ( ) @ 1.61
2 80.2% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 19.8% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 1.61
3 79.9% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 20.1% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) @ 1.73
4 64.2% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 35.8% Azov_Greek ( ) @ 1.78
5 88.6% Macedonian ( ) + 11.4% Lezgin ( ) @ 1.92
6 88% Montenegrian ( ) + 12% Kakheti ( ) @ 1.96
7 84% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 16% Kakheti ( ) @ 1.97
8 83.9% Montenegrian ( ) + 16.1% Kabardin ( ) @ 1.97
9 88.7% Macedonian ( ) + 11.3% Avar ( ) @ 1.97
10 88.1% Macedonian ( ) + 11.9% Azeri_Dagestan ( ) @ 1.98
11 81% Montenegrian ( ) + 19% Cirkassian ( ) @ 1.98
12 88.6% Macedonian ( ) + 11.4% Dargin_Urkarah ( ) @ 1.99
13 85.2% Montenegrian ( ) + 14.8% Adygei ( ) @ 2
14 88.4% Macedonian ( ) + 11.6% Lak ( ) @ 2
15 69.9% Austrian ( ) + 30.1% Turk_Trabzon ( ) @ 2
16 88.4% Macedonian ( ) + 11.6% Tabassaran ( ) @ 2.02
17 85.1% Macedonian ( ) + 14.9% Stalskoe_Kumyk ( ) @ 2.04
18 83% Montenegrian ( ) + 17% Kumyk ( ) @ 2.06
19 86.5% Montenegrian ( ) + 13.5% Ossetian ( ) @ 2.06
20 85.4% Montenegrian ( ) + 14.6% Balkar ( ) @ 2.07


puntdnal k13 global


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 35.23
2 SW_Europe 32.1
3 West_Asia 18.74
4 SW_Asia 9.26
5 Siberia 1.48
6 South_Asia 1.42
7 West_Africa 1
8 South_Africa 0.34
9 East_Africa 0.22
10 Oceania 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 2.48
2 Montenegrin 3.87
3 Bulgarian 4.45
4 Macedonian 5.12
5 Serbian 5.3
6 Bosnian 8.12
7 Kosovar 8.98
8 Moldavian 9.31
9 Albanian 9.72
10 Greek_Thessaly 10.33
11 Croatian 10.46
12 Italian_Tuscan 11.32
13 Hungarian 12.75
14 Slovene 13.05
15 Italian_Bergamo 13.17
16 French 14.04
17 German_South 14.3
18 Slovak 14.4
19 Greek_Central 14.64
20 Belgian 15.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.6% Utahn_European + 40.4% Turkish @ 1.72
2 62.2% Utahn_European + 37.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 1.79
3 97.3% Romanian + 2.7% Selkup @ 1.82
4 61.4% Moldavian + 38.6% Greek_Central @ 1.83
5 98.4% Romanian + 1.6% Nganasan @ 1.85
6 80% Greek_Thessaly + 20% Finnish @ 1.85
7 98.1% Romanian + 1.9% Koryak @ 1.86
8 97.9% Romanian + 2.1% Dolgan @ 1.87
9 98.1% Romanian + 1.9% Yakut @ 1.88
10 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% Chukchi @ 1.92
11 66.3% Greek_Central + 33.7% Russian @ 1.94
12 72% Croatian + 28% Turkish @ 1.97
13 97.9% Romanian + 2.1% Tuvinian @ 1.98
14 67.7% Hungarian + 32.3% Turkish @ 1.99
15 97.6% Romanian + 2.4% Altaian @ 2
16 95.3% Romanian + 4.7% Chuvash @ 2.02
17 94% Romanian + 6% Tatar @ 2.02
18 98.4% Romanian + 1.6% Bantu_SE @ 2.04
19 68.2% Moldavian + 31.8% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 2.04
20 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Eskimo @ 2.05

puntdnal k15:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 41.82
2 Mediterranean 31.1
3 Caucasian 18.45
4 SW_Asian 5.64
5 Horn_Of_Africa 1.65
6 Siberian 0.81
7 W_African 0.38
8 S_African 0.11
9 Oceanian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Macedonian 2.5
2 Bosnian 3.36
3 Romanian 4.22
4 Bulgarian 4.34
5 Montenegrin 5.95
6 Serbian 6.82
7 Italian 8.83
8 Greek_Thessaly 10.71
9 French 11.58
10 Croatian 12.01
11 Albanian 12.25
12 South_German 12.89
13 Greek_Central 12.91
14 Utahn_White 13.57
15 Tuscan 13.71
16 Hungarian 14.07
17 Spaniard 14.95
18 Austrian 15.2
19 Slovenian 15.34
20 Irish 15.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.6% Greek_Thessaly + 26.4% Belarusian @ 1.05
2 75.9% Greek_Thessaly + 24.1% Lithuanian @ 1.19
3 73.1% Greek_Thessaly + 26.9% Russian @ 1.23
4 54.3% Greek_Central + 45.7% Slovenian @ 1.29
5 52.2% Greek_Central + 47.8% Hungarian @ 1.3
6 73.6% Greek_Thessaly + 26.4% Karelian @ 1.31
7 70.9% Slovenian + 29.1% Cypriot @ 1.33
8 65.4% Greek_Central + 34.6% Polish @ 1.34
9 69.8% Greek_Central + 30.2% Belarusian @ 1.35
10 52.9% Greek_Thessaly + 47.1% Croatian @ 1.38
11 56.9% Greek_Thessaly + 43.1% Hungarian @ 1.4
12 85.9% Serbian + 14.1% Samaritian @ 1.41
13 59% Greek_Thessaly + 41% Slovenian @ 1.41
14 71.7% English + 28.3% Assyrian @ 1.41
15 51.8% Croatian + 48.2% Greek_Central @ 1.44
16 86.3% Serbian + 13.7% Druze @ 1.45
17 71.4% Orcadian + 28.6% Assyrian @ 1.46
18 74.5% Greek_Thessaly + 25.5% Finnish @ 1.49
19 73% Greek_Thessaly + 27% Mordovian @ 1.56
20 69.5% Greek_Thessaly + 30.5% Polish @ 1.57

dodecad k12b:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 34.03
2 Caucasus 26.54
3 Atlantic_Med 24.48
4 Southwest_Asian 6.08
5 Gedrosia 6.07
6 Northwest_African 1.44
7 Siberian 0.98
8 South_Asian 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 4.18
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 4.35
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 5.82
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.31
5 Hungarians (Behar) 16.64
6 Greek (Dodecad) 16.91
7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.58
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.15
9 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.17
10 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.28
11 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.65
12 German (Dodecad) 21.76
13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 23.33
14 Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.59
15 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.63
16 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 23.66
17 French (Dodecad) 24.91
18 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 24.99
19 French (HGDP) 25.04
20 Dutch (Dodecad) 26.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 31.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.29
2 95.5% Romanians (Behar) + 4.5% Brahui (HGDP) @ 2.36
3 95.1% Romanians (Behar) + 4.9% Makrani (HGDP) @ 2.43
4 95.2% Romanians (Behar) + 4.8% Balochi (HGDP) @ 2.44
5 93.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 6.6% Brahui (HGDP) @ 2.78
6 90.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 9.6% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.86
7 59.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 40.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.87
8 63.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 36.2% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.88
9 92.6% Romanians (Behar) + 7.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 2.9
10 90.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 9.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.95
11 90.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 9.2% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.95
12 90.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 9.2% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.96
13 90.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 9.4% British (Dodecad) @ 2.96
14 95.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 4.2% Brahui (HGDP) @ 2.96
15 88.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11.3% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.98
16 93.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 6.9% Balochi (HGDP) @ 2.99
17 90.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 9.1% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.99
18 90% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 10% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 3.02
19 90.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 9.8% English (Dodecad) @ 3.03
20 90.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 9.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.03

Eurogenes k36:


Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 1.04 Pct
Armenian 1.85 Pct
Basque 0.45 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.92 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.11 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 13.52 Pct
East_Med 12.92 Pct
Eastern_Euro 9.18 Pct
Fennoscandian 2.82 Pct
French 3.24 Pct
Iberian 8.49 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.56 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.44 Pct
North_African 0.34 Pct
North_Atlantic 4.14 Pct
North_Caucasian 3.69 Pct
North_Sea 2.19 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.66 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.06 Pct
West_Med 1.36 Pct

on k15 pca he is the number 11, close to Romanian:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7857/46572301205_a35bf38ec7_o.png


k36 similarity tool
https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm
https://i.imgur.com/jNb3fwb.png

Aspirin
06-29-2019, 03:29 PM
my biggest match on myheritage is a Moldovan. He has family tree and all 4 surnames are Moldavian/Romanian.

This person score very high East Med. Seems to have some Jewish ancestry.

Aspirin
06-29-2019, 03:46 PM
You aren't wrong, mate. There is an attested legend where when Dragoș Vodă came to the land that became Moldova, he met a Pole or a Ruthenian and asked him if the land is populated. The Pole/Ruthenian said no, so Dragoș told him that he will colonize the land. Apparently that Ruthenian went to the Kingdom of Poland ( as there was no Ukraine at the time ) and came back with colonizers. It is said that Moldova was made half by Vlachs and half by Ruthenians, with the Ruthenians in the north and Vlachs in the south.

If you do travel northwards from South Moldova you do start seeing a larger proportion of blue eyes and light hair. Unfortunately I couldn't find more proper genetic studies on Romanians apart from that Moldavian one that only took samples from the Neamț county, which is arguably middle ground.

Yes, this thing is mentioned in old chronicles, but is not necessary from South to North, but from mountain area to lowlands too.

chrisbab
11-10-2020, 02:54 AM
Can the east med be brought by an middle eastern soldier serving the ottoman empire? Or it is uniquely jewish? I have around 23% of east med on gedmatch and i score <2% druze, <1% northem levant and <2% ashkenazi jewish on ftdna myorigins 3.0. I am from galati.

chrisbab
11-10-2020, 02:56 AM
Wow, only 0.64 mongoloid on gedmatch. Lucky bastard...