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mashail
06-30-2019, 10:50 PM
why my mtdna full sequence results has nothing to do with my family finder results!!!!
and why in both tests it dosent show my dad ancestry???????.
so in my mtdna full sequence I got more than 20 European relatives and my ancestral origins is mostly european I got 7 germans and 4 Swedish, 1frence, 1 Italy, 1 Netherlands,1 Irish ,1 Cyprus , 1 Israel ,2 Lebanon, 2 Saudi.
my matches I got (EXACT matches) all r europeans from Sweden and Germany and 1 Italian .
in other hand I did my family finder test and I just got the results 2 days ago and these results has nothinnnng to do with my mtfull sequence!!!!!
my ancient origins were 73% ancient farmers and 23% metal age invaders (Yamnaya) plus 4% non European.
my origins (ethnic makeup):
- 87% middle eastern:
73% east Middle East(Iran, Iraq,GCC)
10% west Middle East (levant, Israel)
4% Moroccan,algerian,tunisian I guess berber.
I got also 9% sephardic jewish from Spain and 4% from the balkan.
my ethnicity (dad is Kurdish Iraqi, mother is Northern Iraqi ARAB)
mashail
06-30-2019, 10:56 PM
please I need an expert to answer.
mashail
06-30-2019, 11:04 PM
a lot of views with no answers SMH :picard1:
Well, haplogroups have little to do with autosomal DNA. As for your results, there is no way you're half Kurdish, your results are extremely Arabic, straight up Usama's daughter :lol:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Middle_East 51.42
2 Caucaus_Parsia 21.81
3 South_and_West_European 16.06
4 Sub_Saharian 7.7
5 East_Asian 1.37
6 Melanesian 0.85
7 Indian 0.47
8 North_Asian 0.3
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Palestinian 7.21
2 Jordanian 10.14
3 Samaritian 10.17
4 Egyptian 10.85
5 Yemen 14.67
6 Syrian 16.49
7 Bedouin 16.71
8 Lebanese 18.96
9 Druze 19.48
10 Iraqi 20.16
11 Saudi 20.41
12 Jew_Yemen 20.88
13 Jew_Georgia 21.4
14 Jew-Iraqi 21.44
15 Jew_Libya 21.67
16 Jew_Iraqi 21.75
17 Jew-Iran 22.01
18 Jew_Syria 22.81
19 Jew_Tunisia 23.56
20 Jew_Kurd 23.63
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.6% Jordanian + 32.4% Jew_Yemen @ 1.93
2 53.2% Bedouin + 46.8% Lebanese @ 2.21
3 50.3% Syrian + 49.7% Bedouin @ 2.25
4 70.9% Palestinian + 29.1% Bedouin @ 2.42
5 67.4% Jordanian + 32.6% Saudi @ 2.56
6 67% Bedouin + 33% Armenian @ 2.58
7 71.5% Bedouin + 28.5% Georgian_Laz @ 2.64
8 53.9% Bedouin + 46.1% Druze @ 2.64
9 81.1% Samaritian + 18.9% Ethiopian @ 2.65
10 80.6% Samaritian + 19.4% Jew-Ethiopia @ 2.72
11 59.6% Samaritian + 40.4% Yemen @ 2.87
12 80.4% Samaritian + 19.6% Jew_Ethiopia @ 2.89
13 75.4% Palestinian + 24.6% Saudi @ 2.94
14 56.3% Bedouin + 43.7% Jew_Georgia @ 3.15
15 66.8% Bedouin + 33.2% Turk @ 3.18
16 63.2% Jordanian + 36.8% Bedouin @ 3.58
17 61.4% Bedouin + 38.6% Jew_Azerbaijan @ 3.65
18 74.2% Bedouin + 25.8% Georgian_Imereti @ 3.74
19 75.7% Bedouin + 24.3% Abhkasian @ 3.74
20 51.8% Samaritian + 48.2% Egyptian @ 3.77
why my mtdna full sequence results has nothing to do with my family finder results!!!!
and why in both tests it dosent show my dad ancestry???????.
so in my mtdna full sequence I got more than 20 European relatives and my ancestral origins is mostly european I got 7 germans and 4 Swedish, 1frence, 1 Italy, 1 Netherlands,1 Irish ,1 Cyprus , 1 Israel ,2 Lebanon, 2 Saudi.
my matches I got (EXACT matches) all r europeans from Sweden and Germany and 1 Italian .
in other hand I did my family finder test and I just got the results 2 days ago and these results has nothinnnng to do with my mtfull sequence!!!!!
my ancient origins were 73% ancient farmers and 23% metal age invaders (Yamnaya) plus 4% non European.
my origins (ethnic makeup):
- 87% middle eastern:
73% east Middle East(Iran, Iraq,GCC)
10% west Middle East (levant, Israel)
4% Moroccan,algerian,tunisian I guess berber.
I got also 9% sephardic jewish from Spain and 4% from the balkan.
my ethnicity (dad is Kurdish Iraqi, mother is Northern Iraqi ARAB)
The problem is you are missing some of the typical Kurdish signs which are Central Asian and Steppe. Your results show 0% Central Asia in MyOrigins and your Steppe in Metal Age Invadors is low for being 1/2 Kurdish.
Kurds were very heavily "Aryanized" in several waves starting about 3000 years ago by Medes, Parthians, Scythians/Saka/Alans/Sarmatians etc. That is why we have are like an island of R1a, W, Q, R1b and other Central Asian and Steppe haplogroups among our neighbors. Even after over a 1000 years of our steppe haplogroups being diluted by our neighbors we still stick out among them. Just look at this R1a, W, and Q distribution maps.
https://i.imgur.com/7JVkHD6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rlpOnCo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JmIt6JG.jpg
You can imagine how high our steppe haplogroups must have been when our ancestors just migrated from Central Asia before our neighbors diluted us over the past 2000 years.
Back to your results, I haven't taken the FTDNA test but someone from my area in Kurdistan posted his results and you can see that he has 21% Central Asian and 42% Steppe (Metal Age Invaders). There are other Kurdish users here too such as MS85, PAHLI, and a couple of others. I am sure their Central Asian and Steppe numbers are close to the Iraqi Kurd user. So with you being 1/2 Kurdish I would have expected you to have maybe 10% Central Asian and maybe 30% Steppe.
I'm not sure how much your Iraqi Arab mom would have scored since I haven't seen any from them but I think that Iraqi Arabs are Iranian/Kurd shifted compared to other Arabs.
Also as Leto mentions your Gedmatch and oracles are unexpeced for someone 1/2 Kurdish. Is your dad full Kurd?
https://i.imgur.com/PGAhuac.png?1
https://i.imgur.com/IG4GvLT.jpg
Also as Leto mentions your Gedmatch and oracles are unexpeced for someone 1/2 Kurdish. Is your dad full Kurd?
Her Eurogenes and Dodecad
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 39.24
2 Red_Sea 33.27
3 West_Asian 10.03
4 Northeast_African 8.95
5 West_Med 6.08
6 South_Asian 1.22
7 Siberian 0.81
8 North_Atlantic 0.2
9 East_Asian 0.18
10 Baltic 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Saudi 6.17
2 Yemenite_Jewish 13.01
3 Bedouin 13.47
4 Egyptian 16.78
5 Palestinian 18.84
6 Jordanian 19.79
7 Syrian 23.2
8 Samaritan 23.54
9 Lebanese_Christian 25.77
10 Libyan_Jewish 26.29
11 Lebanese_Muslim 26.36
12 Tunisian_Jewish 27.08
13 Lebanese_Druze 27.89
14 Tunisian 29.15
15 Kurdish_Jewish 29.52
16 Algerian 29.71
17 Iranian_Jewish 29.76
18 Moroccan 30.13
19 Cyprian 30.17
20 Sephardic_Jewish 30.7
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.7% Saudi + 9.3% Somali @ 1.64
2 93.2% Saudi + 6.8% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 1.73
3 91.1% Saudi + 8.9% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 1.76
4 90.5% Saudi + 9.5% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 1.84
5 88.1% Saudi + 11.9% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 1.85
6 88.5% Saudi + 11.5% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 1.88
7 94.1% Saudi + 5.9% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 2.78
8 94% Saudi + 6% Hadza @ 3.29
9 93.2% Saudi + 6.8% Maasai @ 3.4
10 94.5% Saudi + 5.5% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 3.63
11 94.7% Saudi + 5.3% Sudanese @ 3.92
12 93.9% Saudi + 6.1% Sandawe @ 4.05
13 96.1% Saudi + 3.9% San @ 5.06
14 82.7% Saudi + 17.3% Egyptian @ 5.19
15 90.3% Saudi + 9.7% Moroccan @ 5.29
16 96.9% Saudi + 3.1% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 5.41
17 91.3% Saudi + 8.7% Algerian @ 5.51
18 91.9% Saudi + 8.1% Mozabite_Berber @ 5.52
19 92% Saudi + 8% Tunisian @ 5.65
20 97.5% Saudi + 2.5% Bantu_N.E. @ 5.67
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Southwest_Asian 43.58
2 Caucasus 28.59
3 East_African 8.85
4 Northwest_African 6.4
5 Gedrosia 5.35
6 Atlantic_Med 5.08
7 South_Asian 1.02
8 Siberian 0.51
9 North_European 0.43
10 East_Asian 0.19
11 Southeast_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bedouin (HGDP) 6.09
2 Yemen_Jews (Behar) 13.06
3 Yemenese (Behar) 13.18
4 Egyptans (Behar) 16.13
5 Palestinian (HGDP) 16.79
6 Jordanians (Behar) 18.96
7 Syrians (Behar) 20.92
8 Samaritians (Behar) 23.63
9 Lebanese (Behar) 24.79
10 Saudis (Behar) 25.5
11 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 29.04
12 Druze (HGDP) 29.31
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 31.61
14 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 33.2
15 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 34.32
16 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 35.07
17 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 35.29
18 Cypriots (Behar) 35.59
19 Assyrian (Dodecad) 35.61
20 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 36.25
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.5% Bedouin (HGDP) + 7.5% Ethiopians (Behar) @ 4.01
2 92.8% Bedouin (HGDP) + 7.2% Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) @ 4.01
3 94.4% Bedouin (HGDP) + 5.6% Somali (Dodecad) @ 4.17
4 62% Egyptans (Behar) + 38% Saudis (Behar) @ 5.11
5 96.8% Bedouin (HGDP) + 3.2% MKK30 (Dodecad) @ 5.46
6 97.2% Bedouin (HGDP) + 2.8% Sandawe_He (Henn) @ 5.54
7 98.4% Bedouin (HGDP) + 1.6% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 5.87
8 91.6% Bedouin (HGDP) + 8.4% Egyptans (Behar) @ 5.93
9 56.3% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 43.7% Egyptans (Behar) @ 5.94
10 98.4% Bedouin (HGDP) + 1.6% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) @ 5.94
11 98.5% Bedouin (HGDP) + 1.5% SAKILLI (Behar) @ 5.94
12 98.4% Bedouin (HGDP) + 1.6% Kol (Metspalu) @ 5.95
13 98.5% Bedouin (HGDP) + 1.5% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 5.95
14 98.3% Bedouin (HGDP) + 1.7% Kanjars (Metspalu) @ 5.95
15 98.3% Bedouin (HGDP) + 1.7% Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 5.95
16 98.4% Bedouin (HGDP) + 1.6% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 5.95
17 98.4% Bedouin (HGDP) + 1.6% Chenchus (Metspalu) @ 5.95
18 98.5% Bedouin (HGDP) + 1.5% Chamar (Metspalu) @ 5.95
19 98.4% Bedouin (HGDP) + 1.6% Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 5.95
20 98.4% Bedouin (HGDP) + 1.6% Kurumba (Metspalu) @ 5.95
An Iraqi Kurd GM result for comparison
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?267627-Iraq-Kurd-compared-with-autosomal-paint-on-high-south-asians/page4&highlight=Gagauz
Her Eurogenes and Dodecad
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Southwest_Asian 43.58
2 Caucasus 28.59
3 East_African 8.85
4 Northwest_African 6.4
5 Gedrosia 5.35
6 Atlantic_Med 5.08
7 South_Asian 1.02
8 Siberian 0.51
9 North_European 0.43
10 East_Asian 0.19
11 Southeast_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bedouin (HGDP) 6.09
2 Yemen_Jews (Behar) 13.06
3 Yemenese (Behar) 13.18
4 Egyptans (Behar) 16.13
5 Palestinian (HGDP) 16.79
6 Jordanians (Behar) 18.96
7 Syrians (Behar) 20.92
8 Samaritians (Behar) 23.63
9 Lebanese (Behar) 24.79
10 Saudis (Behar) 25.5
11 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 29.04
12 Druze (HGDP) 29.31
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 31.61
14 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 33.2
15 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 34.32
16 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 35.07
17 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 35.29
18 Cypriots (Behar) 35.59
19 Assyrian (Dodecad) 35.61
20 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 36.25
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.5% Bedouin (HGDP) + 7.5% Ethiopians (Behar) @ 4.01
2 92.8% Bedouin (HGDP) + 7.2% Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) @ 4.01
3 94.4% Bedouin (HGDP) + 5.6% Somali (Dodecad) @ 4.17
4 62% Egyptans (Behar) + 38% Saudis (Behar) @ 5.11
5 96.8% Bedouin (HGDP) + 3.2% MKK30 (Dodecad) @ 5.46
6 97.2% Bedouin (HGDP) + 2.8% Sandawe_He (Henn) @ 5.54
7 98.4% Bedouin (HGDP) + 1.6% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 5.87
8 91.6% Bedouin (HGDP) + 8.4% Egyptans (Behar) @ 5.93
9 56.3% Yemen_Jews (Behar) + 43.7% Egyptans (Behar) @ 5.94
10 98.4% Bedouin (HGDP) + 1.6% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) @ 5.94
An Iraqi Kurd GM result for comparison
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?267627-Iraq-Kurd-compared-with-autosomal-paint-on-high-south-asians/page4&highlight=Gagauz
yes very unexpected for someone 1/2 Kurdish. I would expect to see Gedrosian of about 15 for 1/2 Kurdish and 1/2 Iraqi Arab. Also the components you highlight are off.
BTW, the Kurd you linked is not Iraqi Kurd, he is a northern Kurd from Turkey :D He scores quite a bit less Gedrosian than myself, MS85, and some of the other Kurds here, but still much higher than Mashail
yes very unexpected for someone 1/2 Kurdish. I would expect to see Gedrosian of about 15 for 1/2 Kurdish and 1/2 Iraqi Arab. Also the components you highlight are off.
BTW, the Kurd you linked is not Iraqi Kurd, he is a northern Kurd from Turkey :D He scores quite a bit less Gedrosian than myself, MS85, and some of the other Kurds here, but still much higher than Mashail
The OP says Iraqi.
Can you post your K13, Dodecad K12b and Harappa? In particular I'm interested in the South Asian, Gedrosia and Baloch components.
The OP says Iraqi.
Can you post your K13, Dodecad K12b and Harappa? In particular I'm interested in the South Asian, Gedrosia and Baloch components.
Sorry i was referring to hadoken, the OP looks Iraqi. I’ll post some of mine later but FYI the Baloch comp in Harrapa is not purely Baloch because if you look at their spreadsheet you’ll notice that Indians score almost as much as below which Baloch only score 52% so it’s a hybrid component it’s partly Baloch and partly south Indian
If you want an actual more pure Baloch component then the Gedrosia K 12 is the calculator because if you look at their spreadsheet you’ll notice that the Baloch and Brahui score about 80% or more and Indians score much less so you know this one is more pure Baloch component
Sorry i was referring to hadoken, the OP looks Iraqi. I’ll post some of mine later but FYI the Baloch comp in Harrapa is not purely Baloch because if you look at their spreadsheet you’ll notice that Indians score almost as much as below which Baloch only score 52% so it’s a hybrid component it’s partly Baloch and partly south Indian
If you want an actual more pure Baloch component then the Gedrosia K 12 is the calculator because if you look at their spreadsheet you’ll notice that the Baloch and Brahui score about 80% or more and Indians score much less so you know this one is more pure Baloch component
The Baloch in HarappaWorld is essentially the same as the Gedrosia in Dodecad. Both vaguely represent some Iranian Neolithic component, therefore they're West Eurasian. White people like Britons and Irishmen get as much as 10% Baloch/Gedrosia on those calculators.
I didn't ask you to interpret the results or make any conclusions, I merely asked you to post your results, I'm interested to see an Iraqi Kurdish result.
The Baloch in HarappaWorld is essentially the same as the Gedrosia in Dodecad. Both vaguely represent some Iranian Neolithic component, therefore they're West Eurasian. White people like Britons and Irishmen get as much as 10% Baloch/Gedrosia on those calculators.
I didn't ask you to interpret the results or make any conclusions, I merely asked you to post your results, I'm interested to see an Iraqi Kurdish result.
All I'm saying is I don't believe the Baloch in Harrapa is pure Baloch because their spreadsheet shows Baloch only scoring 52% of it. If it was pure Baloch they should score close to 100% of it. I said it's hybrid Baloch-S Indian because BOTH Baloch and Indians score high.
Anyways that's my personal reasons for not wanting to use it. Here are my results using Eurogenes and MDLP. I believe we have a little Turkmen mix but my South Central Asian or S Indian numbers are similar to other Iraqi Kurds and also other Kurds like MS85 who I'm sure has posted his somewhere here.
The neolithic Iranian farmers from the Kurdistan region are our ancestors as well as ancestors of many South Asians. Also some of the Central Asian Aryans that brought Indo European languages are ancestral to both Kurds and South Asians plus there seems to be a little ASI geneflow from east to west because Kurds always show a little of it. So that's the reason we share quite a bit of ancestry with South Asians
https://i.imgur.com/DW0XdSz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6DlKZPt.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/HyxfIuP.jpg
@Zoro, you seem to be mixed or atypical for a Kurd. Around 10% mongoloid.
You didn't post Dodecad K12b.
Ayetooey
07-02-2019, 12:05 PM
It's just an MTdna, it means nothing on your autosomal. Mine comes from middle east and I'm 100% European. We can swap if you like OP?
@Zoro, you seem to be mixed or atypical for a Kurd. Around 10% mongoloid.
You didn't post Dodecad K12b.
You can't use a K12 or K23 admixture calculator to figure out how much mongoloid because we have no idea how much mongoloid is hidden in the other components
The best way to figure out Mongoloid is to use a K2 calculator with one component Mongoloid and the other Non Mongoloid
Gedrosia K12
https://i.imgur.com/upVgKvt.jpg
Dodecad K12. It doesn't look like they used Iraqi Kurds
https://i.imgur.com/kIsZhXf.jpg
You can't use a K12 or K23 admixture calculator to figure out how much mongoloid because we have no idea how much mongoloid is hidden in the other components
The best way to figure out Mongoloid is to use a K2 calculator with one component Mongoloid and the other Non Mongoloid
K12b is not bad for this purpose. The Siberian, East Asian and Southeast Asian components are Mongoloid and you're around 9% in total.
Here you can see how close or distant the components are to/from each other:
FST (https://i.ibb.co/nk2cRqD/fst-K12b.png)
K12b is not bad for this purpose. The Siberian, East Asian and Southeast Asian components are Mongoloid and you're around 9% in total.
Here you can see how close or distant the components are to/from each other:
FST (https://i.ibb.co/nk2cRqD/fst-K12b.png)
That's fine but all modern East Europeans and West Asians have mongoloid admixture compared to for example neolithic anatolians because of all the Huns, Scythians, Turkics, Sarmatians adn others. So what I am saying is even the Caucasian, Gedrosian, and South Asian references have some mongoloid admixture. That's why we need a K2 or K3 calculator with one component like Africans or Neolithic Farmers and the other Mongoloid to figure out the total.
Here is a "typical" Iraqi Kurd in Dodecad K12
https://i.imgur.com/xbJ1LDP.jpg
All I'm saying is I don't believe the Baloch in Harrapa is pure Baloch because their spreadsheet shows Baloch only scoring 52% of it. If it was pure Baloch they should score close to 100% of it. I said it's hybrid Baloch-S Indian because BOTH Baloch and Indians score high.
Anyways that's my personal reasons for not wanting to use it. Here are my results using Eurogenes and MDLP. I believe we have a little Turkmen mix but my South Central Asian or S Indian numbers are similar to other Iraqi Kurds and also other Kurds like MS85 who I'm sure has posted his somewhere here.
The neolithic Iranian farmers from the Kurdistan region are our ancestors as well as ancestors of many South Asians. Also some of the Central Asian Aryans that brought Indo European languages are ancestral to both Kurds and South Asians plus there seems to be a little ASI geneflow from east to west because Kurds always show a little of it. So that's the reason we share quite a bit of ancestry with South Asians
Where are you from? What region of Iraq.
mashail
07-04-2019, 01:42 AM
Salam zoro thank u for answering!
it seems like there is no explainpson exept that my dad's family moved long time ago from south-iraq towords north-Iraq and adopted the Kurdish culture and what dad said that his tribe is descendants from ال البيت from alhussian son of Ali which is السيد. even though dad thought me that السيد could be Turkish,arab,kurdish,Iranian,azeri,afghan what he means that da tribe is excite in every muslim country. anyways that explains why I have 9% jewish cause they related to al-albyt in ancient time.
Where are you from? What region of Iraq.
My dad's side is from Kurdistan capital Hawler ( Arbil in Arabic) but my grandparents originally moved there from Qara Tapa which is south of there and my mom's side is from Dohuk.
We have also lived in Baghdad where I attended school for a few years so I can speak and read some Arabic too haha...
Salam zoro thank u for answering!
it seems like there is no explainpson exept that my dad's family moved long time ago from south-iraq towords north-Iraq and adopted the Kurdish culture and what dad said that his tribe is descendants from ال البيت from alhussian son of Ali which is السيد. even though dad thought me that السيد could be Turkish,arab,kurdish,Iranian,azeri,afghan what he means that da tribe is excite in every muslim country. anyways that explains why I have 9% jewish cause they related to al-albyt in ancient time.
I think you mean Ahl-al-Bait which refers to the prophet's and Hazrat Ali's family. Interesting I have never met anyone like that yet who adopted the Kurdish culture. Do you speak Arabic or Kurdish?
mashail
07-04-2019, 08:45 PM
I think you mean Ahl-al-Bait which refers to the prophet's and Hazrat Ali's family. Interesting I have never met anyone like that yet who adopted the Kurdish culture. Do you speak Arabic or Kurdish?
well my dads family speak both Kurdish\arabic ,while my mother speaks arabic only, dad and mom both speak arabic with me and my siblings but I know few Kurdish from my grandma also we live in Dubai so we have to speak arabic all the time no one here understand Kurdish.
StonyArabia
07-06-2019, 09:55 PM
Kurdized Arab it seems that your result. Well there has been Kurdification of Northern Iraqi Arabs, so it's not strange.
My dad's side is from Kurdistan capital Hawler ( Arbil in Arabic) but my grandparents originally moved there from Qara Tapa which is south of there and my mom's side is from Dohuk.
We have also lived in Baghdad where I attended school for a few years so I can speak and read some Arabic too haha...
Isn't Qara Tapa closer to Kirkuk? That might explain your really low East Med scores and the rather high East Asian, as the villages between Arbel and Kirkuk pre-WW1 were mostly Turkmen. My family btw is also from Arbel.
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