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Hemso

07-02-2019, 10:31 PM

What do you think about that?

https://s17.directupload.net/images/190702/h3wd53bi.png

https://s17.directupload.net/images/190702/qc9xibsh.png

Kaspias

07-02-2019, 10:33 PM

Directly pointed Kars, amazing!

Gedmatch?

itilvolga

07-02-2019, 10:41 PM

Karapapak?

Hemso

07-02-2019, 10:42 PM

Directly pointed Kars, amazing!

Gedmatch?

My family is from there. Which Project on Gedmatch should I choose? I am noob lol

Kaspias

07-02-2019, 10:44 PM

My family is from there. Which Project on Gedmatch should I choose?

Eurogenes K13, MDLP K23b, Dodecad K12b, PuntDNAL K15 and Eurogenes K36 please.

Hemso

07-02-2019, 10:47 PM

Eurogenes K13

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 31.76
2 East_Med 27.82
3 West_Med 9.52
4 South_Asian 7.81
5 Red_Sea 6.12
6 Baltic 6.03
7 North_Atlantic 5.61
8 Siberian 3.43
9 Amerindian 1.74

1 Azeri @ 5.130141
2 Turkish @ 6.033838
3 Kurdish @ 10.305779
4 Iranian @ 10.324606
5 Georgian_Jewish @ 13.076791
6 Armenian @ 13.452490
7 Assyrian @ 14.562106
8 Turkmen @ 15.606890
9 Kumyk @ 16.645781
10 Iranian_Jewish @ 16.753382
11 Kurdish_Jewish @ 17.503820
12 Lebanese_Muslim @ 18.173788
13 Syrian @ 18.737530
14 Adygei @ 21.033533
15 Balkar @ 21.481236
16 Cyprian @ 22.245090
17 Kabardin @ 22.475023
18 Georgian @ 22.609873
19 Ossetian @ 23.369726
20 Jordanian @ 23.853504

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azeri +50% Turkish @ 4.204798

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian +25% South_Italian +25% Turkmen @ 3.189763

Hemso

07-02-2019, 10:49 PM

MDLP K23b

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 42.00
2 South_Central_Asian 16.93
3 Near_East 9.51
4 European_Early_Farmers 9.03
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 3.64
6 South_Indian 3.21
7 Ancestral_Altaic 3.04
8 North_African 2.61
9 South_East_Asian 2.39
10 East_Siberian 1.94
11 Paleo_Siberian 1.83
12 Amerindian 1.71
13 East_African 1.07

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Kayseri_ @ 5.410774
2 Turk_ @ 6.195406
3 Turk_Adana_ @ 6.558286
4 Georgian_Jew_ @ 7.942039
5 Azeri_ @ 9.010941
6 Kurd_North_ @ 9.486624
7 Turk_Istanbul_ @ 9.571120
8 Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 9.720778
9 Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 9.955187
10 Assyrian_Iraqi_ @ 10.023753
11 Jew_Tat_ @ 10.852859
12 Iraqi_Chaldean_ @ 11.172694
13 Turk_Aydin_ @ 11.484080
14 Armenian_ @ 11.775995
15 Baku_WGA_ @ 11.874591
16 Kurd_Jew_ @ 12.119781
17 Kurd_South_ @ 12.159978
18 Armenian_Yerevan_ @ 12.295780
19 Kurd_East_ @ 12.403222
20 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 12.639466

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cirkassian_ +50% Iraqi_Chaldean_ @ 4.961359

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cirkassian_ +25% Iranian_ +25% Lebanese_Christian_ @ 3.963501

Hemso

07-02-2019, 10:52 PM

Dodecad K12b

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 41.83
2 Gedrosia 18.32
3 Southwest_Asian 12.13
4 Atlantic_Med 10.29
5 North_European 8.22
6 South_Asian 3.90
7 East_Asian 3.05
8 Siberian 2.25

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks_Behar @ 6.403693
2 Turkish_Dodecad @ 8.247000
3 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 9.928225
4 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 11.891344
5 Iranian_Dodecad @ 12.083787
6 Kurd_Dodecad @ 12.351034
7 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 14.597750
8 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 14.778631
9 Iranians_Behar @ 15.341522
10 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 15.370534
11 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 15.716287
12 Armenian_Dodecad @ 16.104198
13 Lebanese_Behar @ 16.336227
14 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 16.572718
15 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 16.730291
16 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 17.229721
17 Druze_HGDP @ 19.011963
18 Syrians_Behar @ 19.338690
19 Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 19.378273
20 Armenians_Behar @ 19.400539

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian_Dodecad +50% Turkish_Dodecad @ 4.007515

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Turkish_Dodecad +25% Turkmens_Yunusbayev +25% Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.390169

puntDNAL K15

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 41.01
2 Mediterranean 25.28
3 SW_Asian 10.21
4 NE_European 9.90
5 S_Indian 5.01
6 Siberian 2.74
7 E_Asian 2.17
8 Horn_Of_Africa 1.68
9 Amerindian 1.44

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kurdish @ 5.663627
2 Turk_Kayseri @ 6.805552
3 Azerbaijani @ 6.991923
4 Turk_Istanbul @ 8.381804
5 Iranian @ 9.574095
6 Armenian @ 11.404621
7 Assyrian @ 11.557676
8 Kumyk @ 14.072306
9 Lebanese @ 14.109869
10 Balkar @ 15.482167
11 Turk_Trabzon @ 15.779656
12 North_Ossetian @ 16.253256
13 Druze @ 16.254131
14 Iraqi_Jew @ 16.351685
15 Palestinian @ 16.866608
16 Chechen @ 17.136259
17 Syrian @ 17.249685
18 Jordanian @ 19.363510
19 Turkmen @ 19.433113
20 Cypriot @ 19.912468

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turk_Kayseri +50% Iranian @ 3.896611

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Tadjik +25% Turk_Trabzon +25% Samaritian @ 3.761231

Karaton

07-02-2019, 10:53 PM

Hoşgeldin, anne ve baba tarafından nerelisin ve etnik kökenlerin ne?

Hemso

07-02-2019, 10:54 PM

Hemso

07-02-2019, 10:57 PM

Hoşgeldin, anne ve baba tarafından nerelisin ve etnik kökenlerin ne?

Hos bulduk, Annem Babam Karlsi, Etnik kök bilmiyorum. Kendimize hep türk dendik.

Karaton

07-02-2019, 10:59 PM

Hos bulduk, Annem Babam Karlsi, Etnik kök bilmiyorum. Kendimize hep türk dendik.

Kafkas göçmeni (Azerbaycan v.s.) falan değilseniz de mi? Eğer öyleyse baya ilginç sonuçlar.

Gedmatch kit no'nu yazabilir misin mahsuru yoksa?

Hemso

07-02-2019, 11:05 PM

Kafkas göçmeni (Azerbaycan v.s.) falan değilseniz de mi? Eğer öyleyse baya ilginç sonuçlar.

Gedmatch kit no'nu yazabilir misin mahsuru yoksa?

Bunun hakkinda hicbir sey bilmiyorum. O yüzden daha fazlasini ögrenmek istedim.

Karaton

07-02-2019, 11:12 PM

Bunun hakkinda hicbir sey bilmiyorum. O yüzden daha fazlasini ögrenmek istedim.

Numara KK1771204

Köy bilgisinden bulunabilir. Eğer Karapapak v.s. isen yerleşimleri belli. Anne ve Baban Kars'ın neresinden?

Hemso

07-02-2019, 11:16 PM

Köy bilgisinden bulunabilir. Eğer Karapapak v.s. isen yerleşimleri belli. Anne ve Baban Kars'ın neresinden?

Kars, Merkez ve Köy:

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hac%C4%B1halil,_Kars

Karaton

07-02-2019, 11:21 PM

Kars, Merkez ve Köy:

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hac%C4%B1halil,_Kars

Orası Türkmen alevi köyü, Karsın yerli Türklerindensiniz belli ki.

Zoro

07-02-2019, 11:23 PM

Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions

Population
Amerindian 1.42 Pct
Arabian 2.41 Pct
Armenian 8.58 Pct
Basque 0.15 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.26 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 0.31 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 20.38 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 6.30 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 10.88 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 0.06 Pct
North_Caucasian 13.92 Pct
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 0.88 Pct
South_Asian 5.07 Pct
South_Central_Asian 9.89 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.98 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 11.34 Pct
West_Med 1.16 Pct

The reason you’re getting weird results like 5% S Asian and no E Asian on this calculator is because you are on the 23andme V5 chip which has very few markers overlapping with Gedmatch calculators which were made for V3 and V4

Most Iranians and Kurds on V4 chip get 0% S Asian with K36

It would be super cool if someone has done 23andme V4 and V5 post both results here si we can see difference

itilvolga

07-02-2019, 11:25 PM

Kars, Merkez ve Köy:

https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hac%C4%B1halil,_Kars

Sonradan yerleşmediyseniz Horasan’dan göçen Türkmenlerdensiniz.

Hemso

07-02-2019, 11:27 PM

Orası Türkmen alevi köyü, Karsın yerli Türklerindensiniz belli ki.

Evet, ama test ne diyor? Türk genetik ne kadar yüksek? Gedmatch Tam anlamadim

Hemso

07-02-2019, 11:29 PM

Sonradan yerleşmediyseniz Horasan’dan göçen Türkmenlerdensiniz.

Öyle gözüküyor

Karaton

07-02-2019, 11:29 PM

Evet, ama test ne diyor? Türk genetik ne kadar yüksek? Gedmatch Tam anlamadim

Tam tespit için Oğuz örnekleri lazım ama %20-30 Orta Asyalı Türkmen olarak modellenirsin genetik olarak.

Argentano

07-02-2019, 11:35 PM

eurogenes k15?

Hemso

07-02-2019, 11:37 PM

eurogenes k15?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 31.76
2 East_Med 27.82
3 West_Med 9.52
4 South_Asian 7.81
5 Red_Sea 6.12
6 Baltic 6.03
7 North_Atlantic 5.61
8 Siberian 3.43
9 Amerindian 1.74

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Azeri @ 5.130141
2 Turkish @ 6.033838
3 Kurdish @ 10.305779
4 Iranian @ 10.324606
5 Georgian_Jewish @ 13.076791
6 Armenian @ 13.452490
7 Assyrian @ 14.562106
8 Turkmen @ 15.606890
9 Kumyk @ 16.645781
10 Iranian_Jewish @ 16.753382
11 Kurdish_Jewish @ 17.503820
12 Lebanese_Muslim @ 18.173788
13 Syrian @ 18.737530
14 Adygei @ 21.033533
15 Balkar @ 21.481236
16 Cyprian @ 22.245090
17 Kabardin @ 22.475023
18 Georgian @ 22.609873
19 Ossetian @ 23.369726
20 Jordanian @ 23.853504

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Azeri +50% Turkish @ 4.204798

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian +25% South_Italian +25% Turkmen @ 3.189763

Hemso

07-02-2019, 11:41 PM

Haplogroups:

https://s17.directupload.net/images/190703/gunu3l4u.png

Leto

07-02-2019, 11:52 PM

You're basically Azeri, although the Azerbaijani identity may not exist in Turkey (even in Iran these people are still commonly referred to as tork, i.e. Turks).

MS85

07-03-2019, 12:05 AM

Hemso

07-03-2019, 12:26 AM

Kars is in Northern Kurdistan. Some of my ancestors are from Kars.

He is a Turkified ex-Kurd. Most of his ancestors were Kurds, but the most important one who gave him a Turkish language and a Turkish identity are Turks

Kurds just moved to Kars for economic reasons, but it was never Kurdistan. Armenia still wants Kars and Ani back because it was their Capital City.

MS85

07-03-2019, 12:32 AM

Kurds just moved to Kars for economic reasons, but it was never Kurdistan. Armenia still wants Kars and Ani back because it was their Capital City.There is nothing in Kars. Why would Kurds move to Kars for 'economic' reasons?

(Ezdi) Kurds and Armenians lived together in Kars, but after the genocide Kars was emptied from the Armenians and the Ezdi Kurds. But Sunni Kurds stayed in Kars. This is how Kars became a majority Kurdish city.

Hemso

07-03-2019, 12:45 AM

There is nothing in Kars. Why Kurds should move to Kars for 'economic' reasons?

(Ezdi) Kurds and Armenians lived together in Kars, but after the genocide Kars was emptied from the Armenians and the Ezdi Kurds. But Sunni Kurds stayed in Kars. This is how Kars became fully a Kurdish city.

Back then, russians built during the occupation. There was more than anywhere else at the time. yeah I know this method, east anatolia quickly became "North Kurdistan".

Zoro

07-03-2019, 01:01 AM

You're basically Azeri, although the Azerbaijani identity may not exist in Turkey (even in Iran these people are still commonly referred to as tork, i.e. Turks).

I think it’s mostly the 23andme V5 chip that’s giving him off results. Just look at his K36. He’s got 5% S Asian whereas most Iranians/kurds get 0. Also on k36 he scores almost no E Asian. If V5 can screwup the k36 calculator it can screw up other calculators too. I bet he only gets 50,000 overlapping snps instead of 160,000 with that calculator

That’s why you can’t rely on admixture calculators four reliable percentages. You have to do a one to one genome comparison for accurate results

That’s why it would be interesting if somebody who has tested with both V4 and V5 to post their results

MS85

07-03-2019, 01:08 AM

Dodecad K12b

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 41.83
2 Gedrosia 18.32
3 Southwest_Asian 12.13
4 Atlantic_Med 10.29
5 North_European 8.22
6 South_Asian 3.90
7 East_Asian 3.05
8 Siberian 2.25

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turks_Behar @ 6.403693
2 Turkish_Dodecad @ 8.247000
4 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 11.891344
6 Kurd_Dodecad @ 12.351034
10 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 15.370534
11 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 15.716287
12 Armenian_Dodecad @ 16.104198

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranian_Dodecad +50% Turkish_Dodecad @ 4.007515

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Turkish_Dodecad +25% Turkmens_Yunusbayev +25% Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.390169Since your roots are from Kars you are either a Turkified Armenian or a Turkified Kurd. But for a Turkified Armenian you have a lot 'Gedrosia'. Although, it is possible that you have got some Armenian and Kurdish ancestors.

Here is Dodecad K12b for the Armenian average.

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 55.86
2 Gedrosia 16.82
3 Southwest_Asian 14.01
4 Atlantic_Med 10.31
5 North_European 3.00

And here are my own Dodecad K12b results:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.74
2 Gedrosia 28.03
3 Southwest_Asian 14.71
4 Atlantic_Med 8.75
5 North_European 4.86
6 South_Asian 2.70
7 Northwest_African 1.80

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kurd_Dodecad @ 4.649767
2 Iranians_Behar @ 4.716562
3 Iranian_Dodecad @ 5.420637
4 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 6.037994

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranians_Behar +50% Kurd_Dodecad @ 3.745822

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Georgia_Jews_Behar +25% Makrani_HGDP +25% Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.735961

Hemso

07-03-2019, 03:58 AM

Since your roots are from Kars you are either a Turkified Armenian or a Turkified Kurd. But for a Turkified Armenian you have a lot 'Gedrosia'. Although, it is possible that you have got some Armenian and Kurdish ancestors.

Here is Dodecad K12b for the Armenian average.

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 55.86
2 Gedrosia 16.82
3 Southwest_Asian 14.01
4 Atlantic_Med 10.31
5 North_European 3.00

And here are my own Dodecad K12b results:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.74
2 Gedrosia 28.03
3 Southwest_Asian 14.71
4 Atlantic_Med 8.75
5 North_European 4.86
6 South_Asian 2.70
7 Northwest_African 1.80

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kurd_Dodecad @ 4.649767
2 Iranians_Behar @ 4.716562
3 Iranian_Dodecad @ 5.420637
4 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 6.037994

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranians_Behar +50% Kurd_Dodecad @ 3.745822

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Georgia_Jews_Behar +25% Makrani_HGDP +25% Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.735961

Turkified is the wrong word. We can not ignore the Turkic component in my result. Of course Turks married with native Anatolian people. I would call it admixture from kurds and armenian people or admixture from Turks, i dont know, you guys are the profis. My village in Kars was founded by Turkmens from Horasan. Its a Alevism village.

Leto

07-03-2019, 06:42 AM

I think it’s mostly the 23andme V5 chip that’s giving him off results. Just look at his K36. He’s got 5% S Asian whereas most Iranians/kurds get 0. Also on k36 he scores almost no E Asian. If V5 can screwup the k36 calculator it can screw up other calculators too. I bet he only gets 50,000 overlapping snps instead of 160,000 with that calculator

That’s why you can’t rely on admixture calculators four reliable percentages. You have to do a one to one genome comparison for accurate results

That’s why it would be interesting if somebody who has tested with both V4 and V5 to post their results
Nah, they wouldn't be radically different with more SNPs, that's been proven many times by people who did both 23andme and other tests. +/-1-2%.

Pater Patota

07-03-2019, 05:09 PM

Your results very similar my results, i think.

Caucasus 41.48
Gedrosia 19.55
Atlantic_Med 13.93
Southwest_Asian 9.38
North_European 9.24
East_Asian 2.89
Siberian 1.79
East_African 0.51
Southeast_Asian 0.47
Sub_Saharan 0.31
South_Asian 0.26
Northwest_African 0.2

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks (Behar) 6.98
2 Turkish (Dodecad) 7.43
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 12.28
4 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.35
5 Kurd (Dodecad) 12.72
6 Iranian (Dodecad) 12.92
7 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 15.38
8 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 15.57
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.65
10 Armenian (Dodecad) 15.66
11 Iranians (Behar) 15.71
12 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 15.87
13 Assyrian (Dodecad) 16.15
14 Lebanese (Behar) 17.5
15 Armenians (Behar) 17.96
16 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 18.23
17 Cypriots (Behar) 18.49
18 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 18.61
19 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 18.88
20 Druze (HGDP) 19.86

65.4%Kurd (Dodecad)+34.6%Greek (Dodecad)
65%Iranian (Dodecad)+35%Greek (Dodecad)
66.5%Kurds (Yunusbayev)+33.5%Greek (Dodecad)

Hemso

07-04-2019, 02:14 AM

Hemso

07-04-2019, 02:15 AM

Here are my DNA Land results:

Does anyone know what Central Indoeuropean means?

https://s17.directupload.net/images/190704/dr4vlpwo.png

Pater Patota

07-04-2019, 08:54 AM

aHere are my DNA Land results:

Does anyone know what Central Indoeuropean means?

https://s17.directupload.net/images/190704/dr4vlpwo.png

Well I get 73% central Indo European on dna.land, I think this shows CHG(Caucasian) people.
By the way, you get 96% West Euroasian, I get 99% west euroasian, you get more asiatic admix, I get less, I don't exceed 4-5%, and I believe these asiatic/Turkic/mongoloid admix come from my Circassian heritage.

Prinses

07-04-2019, 09:15 AM

Hosgeldin foruma

Benim 23andme'le hemen hemen ayni cunku bendede Iran var ama ilk sehir Trabzon olarak cikiyor. Gedmatch sonuclarimiz ise onlar farkli. 23andme yeni guncelleme yapti ve simdi daha ayrintili ara sira bak cunku bazilarda daha gec guncellestiriyor.

Altaylardan Tunaya

07-04-2019, 09:57 AM

Y-dna ne çikti?

Hosgeldin.

Altaylardan Tunaya

07-04-2019, 10:00 AM

DnaLand/myorigins/23andme AC genelde avrupalilar için tasarlanmis calculatorler. Bizim cografya için en kapsamli ve tutarli calculator gedmatch. Mdlp, puntdnal,eurogenes falan bunlarin son surumlerine göz at.

itilvolga

07-04-2019, 10:03 AM

Since your roots are from Kars you are either a Turkified Armenian or a Turkified Kurd. But for a Turkified Armenian you have a lot 'Gedrosia'. Although, it is possible that you have got some Armenian and Kurdish ancestors.

Here is Dodecad K12b for the Armenian average.

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 55.86
2 Gedrosia 16.82
3 Southwest_Asian 14.01
4 Atlantic_Med 10.31
5 North_European 3.00

And here are my own Dodecad K12b results:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.74
2 Gedrosia 28.03
3 Southwest_Asian 14.71
4 Atlantic_Med 8.75
5 North_European 4.86
6 South_Asian 2.70
7 Northwest_African 1.80

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kurd_Dodecad @ 4.649767
2 Iranians_Behar @ 4.716562
3 Iranian_Dodecad @ 5.420637
4 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 6.037994

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Iranians_Behar +50% Kurd_Dodecad @ 3.745822

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Georgia_Jews_Behar +25% Makrani_HGDP +25% Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.735961

He’s a Horasani Turkmen, not a Turkifized Kurd or Armenian, you rat.

Pater Patota

07-04-2019, 12:25 PM

Let me share my gedmatch results, it would be useful for the OP and the others.

MDLP K16

1 Caucasian 49.73
2 Steppe 13.96
3 Neolithic 12.45
4 Indian 9.54
5 NorthEastEuropean 5.99
6 NearEast 4.4
7 Siberian 2.56
8 Subsaharian 0.53
9 SouthEastAsian 0.51
10 Australian 0.32

1 Azerbaijani (Azerbaijan) 5.68
2 Circassian (Circassia) 5.82
3 Kabardin (Kabardino-Balkaria) 5.89
4 Azerbaijani_Dagestan (Azerbaijan_Dagestan) 6.07
5 Armenian (Armenia) 6.18
6 Turk (Istanbul) 6.53
7 Ossetian (North_Ossetia) 6.59
8 Armenian (Chambarak) 6.71
9 Armenian (Erzrum) 6.74
10 Azerbaijani_Khachmaz (Azerbaijan_Khachmaz) 6.79
11 Turk (Adana) 6.8
12 Turk (Kayseri) 6.83
13 Azerbaijani_Agdzhabedi (Azerbaijan_Agdzhabedi) 7.22
14 Azerbaijani_Dagestan (Azerbaijan_Dagestan) 7.37
15 Adjar (Adjaria) 7.39
16 Greek (Azov) 7.58
17 Armenian (Dprabak) 7.8
18 Azeri (Azerbaijan) 7.88
19 Armenian (Yegvard) 7.92
20 Armenian (Martuni) 8.03

51.5% Kabardin (Kabardino-Balkaria)+48.5%Armenian (Armenia)
51.9%Circassian (Circassia)+48.1%Armenian (Armenia)

MDLP K23

1 Caucasian 40.42
2 South_Central_Asian 20.34
3 European_Early_Farmers 10.11
4 Near_East 9.13
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 7.07
6 Ancestral_Altaic 3.63
7 Tungus-Altaic 3.18
8 North_African 1.69
9 East_Siberian 1.01
10 Austronesian 0.98
11 Archaic_African 0.67
12 Australoid 0.62
13 South_Indian 0.61
14 Paleo_Siberian 0.21
15 East_African 0.14
16 Archaic_Human 0.12
17 Subsaharian 0.08

1 Turk_Adana ( ) 5.63
2 Turk ( ) 6.26
3 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 6.27
4 Azeri ( ) 6.79
5 Kurd_North ( ) 7.11
6 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 8.39
7 Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) 8.44
8 Georgian_Jew ( ) 9.67
9 Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) 9.68
10 Kurd ( ) 9.92
11 Turk_Aydin ( ) 9.94
12 Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) 10.29
13 Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) 10.48
14 Stalskoe_Kumyk ( ) 10.53
15 Kurd_East ( ) 10.64
16 Kurd_South ( ) 11.13
17 Baku_WGA ( ) 11.16
18 Iraqi_Mandean ( ) 11.82
19 Kurd_Jew ( ) 11.88
20 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 12.15

74.7%Azeri ( )+25.3%Greek_Smyrna ( )
76.7%Azeri ( )+23.3%Greek_Athens ( )

MDLP World

1 Caucaus_Parsia 39.4
2 South_and_West_European 25.7
3 Middle_East 19.8
4 North_and_East_European 6.88
5 East_Asian 3.17
6 Indian 2.71
7 North_Asian 1.43
8 Sub_Saharian 0.5
9 Mesoamerican 0.4

1 Turk 3.1
2 Azeri 8.39
3 Armenian 10.1
4 Kurd 11.15
5 Cirkassian 11.15
6 Kumyk 11.43
7 Georgian 11.46
8 Greek_Azov 11.86
9 Adygei 12.5
10 Kabardinian 12.57
11 Balkarian 12.7
12 Georgian_Laz 12.75
13 NorthOssetian 13.83
14 Jew-Uzbekistan 14.51
15 Jew_Azerbaijan 14.8
16 Jew_Tat 15.16
17 Ossetian 15.28
18 Iranian 15.42
19 Tatar_Crim 15.98
20 Chechen 15.98

74.7%Azeri+25.3%Greek_East
75.9%Azeri+24.1%Greek_North
75.9%Azeri+24.1%Italian-Center

Eurogenes K13

1 West_Asian 37.39
2 East_Med 25.94
3 West_Med 10.96
4 North_Atlantic 8.16
5 Baltic 4.81
6 Red_Sea 3.65
7 South_Asian 3.27
8 East_Asian 2.8
9 Siberian 1.92
10 Northeast_African 0.77
11 Oceanian 0.32

1 Azeri 6.71
2 Turkish 6.9
3 Kurdish 9.02
4 Armenian 10.42
5 Kumyk 11.12
6 Iranian 11.93
7 Georgian_Jewish 12.48
8 Adygei 13.79
9 Balkar 14.04
10 Georgian 14.12
11 Assyrian 14.78
12 Ossetian 14.81
13 Kabardin 15.59
14 Turkmen 15.85
15 North_Ossetian 16.06
16 Abhkasian 16.12
17 Chechen 17.72
18 Kurdish_Jewish 18.16
19 Iranian_Jewish 18.18
20 Lezgin 18.33

56.9%Ossetian+43.1%Lebanese_Muslim
60.3%Ossetian+39.7%Cyprian

Eurogenes K15

1 West_Asian 35.74
2 East_Med 25.71
3 Atlantic 10.33
4 West_Med 6.29
5 Eastern_Euro 5.73
6 South_Asian 3.84
7 Red_Sea 3.75
8 Southeast_Asian 2.29
9 North_Sea 1.95
10 Baltic 1.85
11 Siberian 1.65
12 Northeast_African 0.68
13 Oceanian 0.16
14 Sub-Saharan 0.03

1 Turkish 7.46
2 Azeri 8.11
3 Kurdish 10.13
4 Armenian 11.84
5 Iranian 12.28
6 Georgian_Jewish 12.65
7 Kumyk 13.27
8 Assyrian 15.52
9 Turkmen 16.41
10 Adygei 16.95
11 Kabardin 17.59
12 Balkar 17.66
13 Georgian 17.9
14 Lezgin 18.58
15 Ossetian 18.66
16 Lebanese_Muslim 19.33
17 Iranian_Jewish 19.36
18 North_Ossetian 20.06
19 Kurdish_Jewish 20.18
20 Chechen 20.36

51%Ossetian+49%Lebanese_Muslim
53.7%Adygei+46.3%Lebanese_Muslim
52.6%Kabardin+47.4%Lebanese_Muslim

Puntdnal K13

1 West_Asia 38.7
2 SW_Europe 25.25
3 SW_Asia 13.05
4 NE_Europe 12.46
5 Siberia 2.67
6 NE_Asia 2.61
7 South_Asia 2.58
8 SE_Asia 1.09
9 South_Africa 0.54
10 West_Africa 0.38
11 East_Africa 0.37
12 Americas 0.21
13 Oceania 0.1

1 Azerbaijan_Azeri 4.63
2 Turkish_Kayseri 4.75
3 Turkish 5.07
4 Turkish_Aydin 7.19
5 Ossetian 7.51
6 Balkar 7.96
7 Abkhasian 8.18
8 Dagestan_Azeri 8.24
9 Adygei 9.38
10 Kurdish 9.61
11 Kumyk 10.41
12 Iranian 11.87
13 Armenian 12.29
14 Assyrian 13.3
15 Turkish_Trabzon 13.76
16 Lebanese_Druze 14.08
17 Syrian 14.16
18 Lebanese_Muslim 14.48
19 Chechen 15
20 Lebanese_Christian 15.8

67.2%Turkish_Kayseri+32.8%Adygei

Puntdnal K15

1 Caucasian 41.1
2 Mediterranean 28.25
3 NE_European 12.26
4 SW_Asian 7.47
5 S_Indian 3.15
6 E_Asian 2.34
7 Horn_Of_Africa 2.02
8 Siberian 1.82
9 Omo_River 0.75
10 Beringian 0.27
11 Wht_Nile_River 0.22
12 Oceanian 0.2
13 W_African 0.14

1 Turk_Kayseri 3.46
2 Kurdish 6.55
3 Turk_Istanbul 6.64
4 Azerbaijani 7.76
5 Armenian 9.7
6 Assyrian 10.52
7 Iranian 11.78
8 Kumyk 12.08
9 Balkar 12.59
10 Turk_Trabzon 13.08
11 North_Ossetian 13.32
12 Chechen 14.33
13 Lebanese 14.5
14 Druze 16.22
15 Palestinian 16.51
16 Cypriot 16.88
17 Iraqi_Jew 17.11
18 Syrian 18
19 Abkhasian 18.14
20 Lezgin 18.27

75.6%Azerbaijani+24.4%Greek_Central
77.4%Azerbaijani+22.6%Greek_Thessaly
78%Turk_Istanbul+22%Ashkenazy_Jew

Hemso

07-06-2019, 03:57 AM

myfamilytree Origins:

Its different than my 23andme result.

https://s17.directupload.net/images/190706/4aumlc43.png

Pater Patota

07-08-2019, 01:52 AM

Hemso

07-08-2019, 02:05 AM

You get Siberian as well as the most of Turks.I don't get Siberian on FTDNA but get South Central Asian.

Sorry about the map, I'm on mobile, it doesn't properly zoom out.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2yn1a9s.jpg

I cant see the Image. What is your Y Hablogroup?

My paternal haplogroup is J-L25 which must be naitive Anatolian. So the Turkish part must have come from the outside.

Pater Patota

07-08-2019, 02:10 AM

I cant see the Image. What is your Y Hablogroup?

My paternal haplogroup is J-L25 which must be naitive Anatolian. So the Turkish part must have come from the outside.

Mine is J2(J-m172) but I don't know the branch, I've tested it with Geno 1.0 project in 2011 and they gave me this.

Leto

07-08-2019, 02:10 AM

punt DNAL K13 is not bad for you

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 38.76
2 SW_Europe 21.54
3 SW_Asia 16.15
4 NE_Europe 10.77
5 South_Asia 5.51
6 NE_Asia 2.7
7 Siberia 2.05
8 Americas 1.33
9 Oceania 0.69
10 South_Africa 0.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Azerbaijan_Azeri 4.92
2 Turkish_Kayseri 6.24
3 Kurdish 7.56
4 Turkish 7.56
5 Iranian 8.38
6 Turkish_Aydin 9.16
7 Dagestan_Azeri 9.43
8 Abkhasian 9.96
9 Ossetian 9.96
10 Balkar 11.55
11 Armenian 12.31
12 Adygei 12.34
13 Kumyk 12.36
14 Assyrian 12.57
15 Syrian 13.09
16 Lebanese_Druze 13.21
17 Lebanese_Muslim 13.28
18 Lebanese_Christian 15.23
19 Turkish_Trabzon 15.38
20 Chechen 16.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.9% Turkish + 47.1% Iranian @ 2.78
2 52.5% Iranian + 47.5% Turkish_Aydin @ 2.87
3 60.3% Lebanese_Druze + 39.7% Tadjik @ 2.88
4 58.8% Turkish_Kayseri + 41.2% Iranian @ 2.96
5 61.6% Assyrian + 38.4% Tadjik @ 2.97
6 60.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 39.8% Tadjik @ 2.97
7 83% Turkish_Kayseri + 17% Makrani @ 3.04
8 56.8% Lebanese_Christian + 43.2% Tadjik @ 3.31
9 55.7% Kurdish + 44.3% Turkish_Aydin @ 3.32
10 82.6% Turkish_Kayseri + 17.4% Pathan @ 3.44
11 83.6% Turkish_Kayseri + 16.4% Brahui @ 3.49
12 83.4% Turkish_Kayseri + 16.6% Balochi @ 3.55
13 68% Dagestan_Azeri + 32% Palestinian @ 3.58
14 81.9% Turkish_Kayseri + 18.1% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.66
15 66.4% Dagestan_Azeri + 33.6% Jordanian @ 3.69
16 65.5% Assyrian + 34.5% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 3.72
17 76.8% Dagestan_Azeri + 23.2% Egyptian_Copts @ 3.83
18 83.5% Turkish_Kayseri + 16.5% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 3.84
19 92.9% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 7.1% Bedouin @ 3.84
20 50% Turkish + 50% Kurdish @ 3.88

Hemso

07-08-2019, 02:10 AM

mytrueancestry results:

https://s17.directupload.net/images/190708/5xxvop5s.jpg

https://s17.directupload.net/images/190708/8kk72ep8.jpg

https://s17.directupload.net/images/190708/azrxvr9m.jpg

https://s17.directupload.net/images/190708/6zhvht2a.jpg

https://s17.directupload.net/images/190708/aifozveo.jpg

Hemso

07-08-2019, 02:13 AM

punt DNAL K13 is not bad for you

Thx, but what do they mean by turkish? Turkey-Turkish (citizenship) or Turkmen?

Leto

07-08-2019, 02:15 AM

Thx, but what do they mean by turkish? Turkey-Turkish (citizenship) or Turkmen?
I'm pretty sure they mean the Turks of Turkey.

Pater Patota

07-08-2019, 02:20 AM

Thx, but what do they mean by turkish? Turkey-Turkish (citizenship) or Turkmen?

It means Anatolian Turkish, nothing about Central Asiatic/Turkic Turkmens.

Hemso

07-08-2019, 02:21 AM

Mine is J2(J-m172) but I don't know the branch, I've tested it with Geno 1.0 project in 2011 and they gave me this.

J-m172 too

https://s17.directupload.net/images/190708/oduzs2l2.png

Pater Patota

07-08-2019, 02:25 AM

Where are you originally from?

Hemso

07-08-2019, 02:32 AM

Where are you originally from?

Both Kars. And your?

Pater Patota

07-08-2019, 02:43 AM

Both Kars. And your?

My background is too diverse to write here but I can say that " Y-DNA J2 is Tunceli-Kurdish " and " mtdna W6 is Late ottoman era Circassian/Adyghe from Istanbul.

Hemso

07-08-2019, 02:51 AM

My background is too diverse to write here but I can say that " Y-DNA J2 is Tunceli-Kurdish " and " mtdna W6 is Late ottoman era Circassian/Adyghe from Istanbul.

R1a/R1b is also common in Tunceli.

My mtdna is J1b1a.

Pater Patota

07-08-2019, 05:07 AM

R1a/R1b is also common in Tunceli.

My mtdna is J1b1a.

What about your closest relatives/3rd cousins on FTDNA?I get many Tunceli(Dersim), Erzincan and some Armenians as 3rd cousin, also interestingly get some Europeans.

MS85

07-08-2019, 05:13 AM

What about your closest relatives/3rd cousins on FTDNA?I get many Tunceli(Dersim), Erzincan and some Armenians as 3rd cousin, also interestingly get some Europeans.Very interesting. This is what I got.

https://i.postimg.cc/QdYjSQzS/ace.png

MS85

07-08-2019, 05:17 AM

And here are the ancestor birthplaces of people who are my distant 'cousins'

https://i.postimg.cc/pdMqw73d/birth.jpg

MS85

07-08-2019, 05:22 AM

my maps

https://i.postimg.cc/50hBzF12/kur.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/ZYNFSjFB/kur-1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/RVQ73FYv/kur-2.jpg

MS85

07-08-2019, 05:27 AM

J-m172 too

https://s17.directupload.net/images/190708/oduzs2l2.png1 out of 240 men has your Y-DNA gaplogroup.

While my Kurdish Y-DNA is very rare. 1 out of 2900 men has my Kurdish Y-DNA.

https://i.postimg.cc/63Ms5tNc/rare.jpg

Hemso

07-08-2019, 05:49 AM

What about your closest relatives/3rd cousins on FTDNA?I get many Tunceli(Dersim), Erzincan and some Armenians as 3rd cousin, also interestingly get some Europeans.

I just have a few results under 3rd cousins. But one is from Tunceli, the rest did not specified the Location, cant see it. 5rd cousins are from around the world.

Hemso

07-08-2019, 05:58 AM

1 out of 240 men has your Y-DNA gaplogroup.

While my Kurdish Y-DNA is very rare. 1 out of 2900 men has my Kurdish Y-DNA.

https://i.postimg.cc/63Ms5tNc/rare.jpg

This is not kurdish DNA. That is a subcluster from Indo-European Gen, which is not so common under Kurds. Most Kurds belong to J Family.

MS85

07-08-2019, 06:05 AM

This is not kurdish DNA. That is a subcluster from Indo-European Gen, which is not so common under Kurds. Most Kurds belong to J Family.R1a* is from Kurdistan or Iran my friend.

At max 1/3 of Kurds belong to J Family. Other 2/3 of the Kurds belong to different haplogroups. My Yezidi Kurdish paternal lineage is from Shengal/Ezdixan and a lot Ezdi Kurds from Shengal have also hg. T, L, E, G2 and R1b.

Hemso

07-08-2019, 06:11 AM

R1a* is from Kurdistan or Iran my friend.

At max 1/3 of Kurds belong to J Family. Other 2/3 of the Kurds belong to different haplogroups. My Yezidi Kurdish paternal lineage is from Shengal/Ezdixan and a lot Ezdi Kurds from Shengal have also hg. T, L, E, G2 and R1b.

Since your are from Iraq:

In this study, Nebel et al. found the following Y-DNA (paternal DNA) haplogroup frequencies among Kurds from Iraqi Kurdistan:

J2 = 28.4%
R1b = 16.8%
I = 16.8%
R1a = 11.6%
J1 = 11.6%
E1b1b = 7.4%
G = 4.2%
T = 3.2%

http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/kurds.html

MS85

07-08-2019, 06:14 AM

Since your are from Iraq:

http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/kurds.htmlI'm 75% from Northern Kurdistan, from Kars-Wan region. Only my paternal tribe (Y-DNA) is from South Kurdistan.

New results of (Ezdi) Kurds from Southern Kurdistan (Iraq) from the most recent study. I hope it will help:

https://i.postimg.cc/59gZWw5V/Ezdi-Kurds.png

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0187408

Hemso

07-08-2019, 06:21 AM

I'm 75% from Northern Kurdistan, from Kars-Wan region. Only my paternal tribe (Y-DNA) is from South Kurdistan.

New results of (Ezdi) Kurds from Southern Kurdistan (Iraq) from the most recent study. I hope it will help:

https://i.postimg.cc/59gZWw5V/Ezdi-Kurds.png

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0187408

Even in your source, the Kurds have J at highest. But it is different with the yazidis.

MS85

07-08-2019, 06:31 AM

Even in your source, the Kurds have J at highest. But it is different with the yazidis.Ezdi Kurds are the purest Kurds. Like I said, on average (Kurds from West, East, North & South) have 1/3 of J. 2/3 belongs to other haplogroups. Ezdi Kurds have 20% of J (J1 & J2), 30% of R1 (R1a & R1b), 19% of LT, 11% of G2a and 11% of E

Here are the results of all Kurds from everywhere until 2014. I think now 5 year later it is a little bit different now.

https://i.postimg.cc/65n0rKHp/Kurdish-Y-chromosome-haplogroups.png

http://kurdishdna.blogspot.com/2014/10/kurdish-y-dna-part-xi.html

Hemso

07-08-2019, 06:38 AM

Ezdi Kurds are the purest Kurds. Like I said, on average (Kurds from West, East, North & South) have 1/3 of J. 2/3 belongs to other haplogroups. Ezdi Kurds have 20% of J (J1 & J2), 30% of R1 (R1a & R1b), 19% of LT, 11% of G2a and 11% of E

Here are the results of all Kurds from everywhere until 2014. I think now 5 year later it is a little bit different now.

https://i.postimg.cc/65n0rKHp/Kurdish-Y-chromosome-haplogroups.png

http://kurdishdna.blogspot.com/2014/10/kurdish-y-dna-part-xi.html

Not easy to say. According to some studies, some Yazidis see themselves as their own independent ethnic group. And when we look at the genetic differences, we can see clear differences with Kurds.

They are maybe the "purest", at the same time that makes them something else.

MS85

07-08-2019, 06:48 AM

Not easy to say. According to some studies, some Yazidis see themselves as their own independent ethnic group. And when we look at the genetic differences, we can see clear differences with Kurds.Y-DNA is a little bit different, but our auDNA (autosomal DNA) is practically the same. Our auDNA proportions (Caucasus vs. Gedrosia vs. etc.) are the same. in general Ezdi Kurds and Eastern Kurds (Iranian Kurds) have a little bit more 'Gedrosia' than other Kurds.

That's why I am interested in your DNA, since you are from the same region, so I could compare our auDNA with each other and learn something from it.

Hemso

07-08-2019, 06:57 AM

Y-DNA is a little bit different, but our auDNA (autosomal DNA) is practically the same. Our auDNA proportions (Caucasus vs. Gedrosia vs. etc.) are the same. in general Ezdi Kurds and Eastern Kurds (Iranian Kurds) have a little bit more 'Gedrosia' than other Kurds.

That's why I am interested in your DNA, since you are from the same region, so I could compare our auDNA with each other and learn something from it.

Yes, I am also here to learn new things. no beef.
What is your maternal haplogroup? Mine is J1b1a, which many Indo-Europeans had. You have Y Indo-European thats why i ask. Maybe it has something to do with it

The most common J1b subclade in Europe, and the one most strongly associated with Y-haplogroup R1b, is J1b1, and particularly J1b1a in Europe, which also happen to be the subclade identified in the Urnfield culture.

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J_mtDNA.shtml

MS85

07-08-2019, 07:03 AM

Yes, I am also here to learn new things. no beef.
What is your maternal haplogroup? Mine is J1b1a, which many Indo-Europeans had.My maternal haplogroup is from a region between Wan-Kars.

https://i.postimg.cc/jq3fDSy7/hv.jpg

Leto

07-08-2019, 08:30 AM

Not easy to say. According to some studies, some Yazidis see themselves as their own independent ethnic group. And when we look at the genetic differences, we can see clear differences with Kurds.

They are maybe the "purest", at the same time that makes them something else.
Yes, I think Yezidis are not exactly Kurds. They're a closed ethnoreligious community which doesn't accept converts. Even if you're a pure Muslim Kurd, you still cannot join them, you need to be born one.

MS85

07-08-2019, 05:45 PM

Ezdi Kurds are the purest Kurds. Like I said, on average (Kurds from West, East, North & South) have 1/3 of J. 2/3 belongs to other haplogroups. Ezdi Kurds have 20% of J (J1 & J2), 30% of R1 (R1a & R1b), 19% of LT, 11% of G2a and 11% of EI made a mistake J2a1 = 20% and J1 = 9%. In total of 29% of J. Very similar to other Kurds.

All Kurds combined are for about

1/3 J
1/3 R
1/3 L, T, G, E

FinalFlash

07-08-2019, 05:47 PM

My family is from there. Which Project on Gedmatch should I choose? I am noob lol

Eurogenes K12b. It's the best for West Asia I believe.

MS85

07-08-2019, 05:48 PM

Even if you're a pure Muslim Kurd, you still cannot join them, you need to be born one.Most Ezdi Kurds were forced to convert into Islam. Most Kurmanji Kurds in North, West and South Kurdistan were Ezdi Kurds. That's why I'm saying that Ezdi Kurds are closer to the proto-Kurds.

Rgvgjhvv

07-08-2019, 06:29 PM

Eurogenes K12b. It's the best for West Asia I believe.

Is it? What would it show?

Hemso

07-08-2019, 09:15 PM

I made a mistake J2a1 = 20% and J1 = 9%. In total of 29% of J. Very similar to other Kurds.

All Kurds combined are for about

1/3 J
1/3 R
1/3 L, T, G, E

No problem.

MDLP World-22

I have almost no Aryan/Indoeuropean from Indo-Iranian R

https://s18.directupload.net/images/190708/wzdqb3wa.png

Pater Patota

07-09-2019, 12:54 PM

No problem.

MDLP World-22

I have almost no Aryan/Indoeuropean from Indo-Iranian R

https://s18.directupload.net/images/190708/wzdqb3wa.png

West-Asian 40.57
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 22.67
Near_East 15.64
North-East-European 8.17
Indo-Iranian 3.44
East-Siberean 2.67
Indian 2.23
North-European-Mesolithic 2.14
East-South-Asian 0.94
North-Amerind 0.6
Austronesian 0.39
South-America_Amerind 0.26
Sub-Saharian 0.17
Pygmy 0.08
Indo-Tibetan 0.05

My Indo-Iranian is quite high for someone from Turkey, it's even higher than Kurdish average.

Hemso

07-09-2019, 11:02 PM

West-Asian 40.57
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 22.67
Near_East 15.64
North-East-European 8.17
Indo-Iranian 3.44
East-Siberean 2.67
Indian 2.23
North-European-Mesolithic 2.14
East-South-Asian 0.94
North-Amerind 0.6
Austronesian 0.39
South-America_Amerind 0.26
Sub-Saharian 0.17
Pygmy 0.08
Indo-Tibetan 0.05

My Indo-Iranian is quite high for someone from Turkey, it's even higher than Kurdish average.

Could be the tunceli portion. They lived there very isolated.