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grecoroman
07-18-2019, 03:06 AM
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Fareedan
07-18-2019, 03:17 AM
Do you know what region they're from?

grecoroman
07-18-2019, 10:46 AM
Do you know what region they're from?

Eastern iran

Kyp
07-18-2019, 10:52 AM
Name of the first and third?

2nd one is from afghan border region

Kyp
07-18-2019, 10:56 AM
Another one:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e6/ea/4e/e6ea4e94903e08a3411cec5bd5048bdf.jpg

grecoroman
07-18-2019, 10:58 AM
Name of the first and third?

2nd one is from afghan border region

Farshid Bagheri. Hossein Saki

FinalFlash
07-18-2019, 10:59 AM
Name their ethnicities.

Kyp
07-18-2019, 11:01 AM
Farshid Bagheri. Hossein Saki

Yes first one is from Eastern Iran, 3rd one looks arab (SSA admixed) to be honest. No wonder he is from southwest Iran, close to the iraqi border.

grecoroman
07-18-2019, 11:04 AM
Yes first one is from Eastern Iran, 3rd one looks arab (SSA admixed) to be honest. No wonder he is from southwest Iran, close to the iraqi border.

Kuzestan region are full with Arabs and persianized arabs

Kyp
07-18-2019, 11:05 AM
Kuzestan region are full with Arabs and persianized arabs

Yes.

grecoroman
07-18-2019, 11:10 AM
Name their ethnicities.

1 and 2 are persianized dravidian (maybe Indian or Pakistani ancestry). 3 is persianized Arab.

wvwvw
07-18-2019, 11:10 AM
They're not atypical in Southern Iran.

FinalFlash
07-18-2019, 11:34 AM
1 and 2 are persianized dravidian (maybe Indian or Pakistani ancestry). 3 is persianized Arab.

Oh ok. Maybe it's best to mention their ethnicities since "Iranian" isn't an ethnicity anyway. Arabians and Dravidians makes sense here.

FinalFlash
07-18-2019, 11:35 AM
1 and 2 are persianized dravidian (maybe Indian or Pakistani ancestry). 3 is persianized Arab.

Oh ok. Maybe it's best to mention their ethnicities since "Iranian" isn't an ethnicity anyway. Arabians and Dravidians makes sense here.

wvwvw
07-18-2019, 11:41 AM
Oh ok. Maybe it's best to mention their ethnicities since "Iranian" isn't an ethnicity anyway. Arabians and Dravidians makes sense here.

They don't look Arab or Indian to me but distinctly Iranians just a darker version.

Kyp
07-18-2019, 12:07 PM
They don't look Arab or Indian to me but distinctly Iranians just a darker version.

agree with you on the first two. the third however clearly looks arab.

Oghuz
07-18-2019, 12:26 PM
They are atypical even in southern most Iran and often used on anthro forums to troll Iranian members. Southern Iran population wise is not even 20 % of Iran.

This video is from Zahedan city In Iranian Balochistan which borders Pakistan. Look at people, most are Iranids just tanned. Zahedan has migrants from Afghanistan, Pakistan as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vioujk4etxk

grecoroman
07-18-2019, 05:22 PM
They are atypical even in southern most Iran and often used on anthro forums to troll Iranian members. Southern Iran population wise is not even 20 % of Iran.

This video is from Zahedan city In Iranian Balochistan which borders Pakistan. Look at people, most are Iranids just tanned. Zahedan has migrants from Afghanistan, Pakistan as well.



the 3 players i posted all have iranian names, not pakistani

Oghuz
07-18-2019, 05:24 PM
the 3 players i posted all have iranian names, not pakistani

no one said they are pakistanis. Their cranial measurements are still close to Iranid subtypes despite the odd pigmentation. They are quite atypical offcourse.

grecoroman
07-18-2019, 05:41 PM
no one said they are pakistanis. Their cranial measurements are still close to Iranid subtypes despite the odd pigmentation. They are quite atypical offcourse.

i heard some iranians have indian ancestory??

Oghuz
07-18-2019, 05:45 PM
i heard some iranians have indian ancestory??

That will be BS.

I also heard that Germans have Indian ancestry. Its internet.

wvwvw
07-18-2019, 11:21 PM
1 and 2 are persianized dravidian (maybe Indian or Pakistani ancestry). 3 is persianized Arab.

He could easily be Iranian too.

Fareedan
07-19-2019, 03:14 AM
Yeah. My estimation was right :)
East Iranian

Zeus
07-19-2019, 03:23 AM
I cant really see the first one, 2nd one looks more indian than iranian, and the 3rd one is not atypical

Kyp
07-20-2019, 04:40 PM
I cant really see the first one, 2nd one looks more indian than iranian, and the 3rd one is not atypical

he is atypical for non southwestern regions.

Oghuz
07-20-2019, 04:47 PM
he is atypical for non southwestern regions.

Lol yes. Try to put that face in this Persian crowds.

https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/iran_revolution_001.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=450&h=297.66309639727365&crop=1

https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/OkwSYVdBSDIHdSDjQ478.Q--~B/aD02ODA7dz0xMDI0O3NtPTE7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/afp.com/Part-PAR-SAPA981202030500-1-0-1.jpg

Kyp
07-20-2019, 04:54 PM
Lol yes. Try to put that face in this Persian crowds.



He is from Dasht-e-Azedegan..meaning he is most likely (95%) an arab.

Edit: probably originally from Yemen.

Oghuz
07-20-2019, 05:02 PM
He is from Dasht-e-Azedegan..meaning he is most likely (95%) an arab.

Edit: probably originally from Yemen.

yes those lips are and eyes are like Extremely Arab. OP has a habit of posting random and incorrect stuff about Iranians. He is a good person but does this often. He made a morph of Assyrians, Jews, arabs and Turkmens and called it persian.

3rd man in OP looks arabid and is one.

http://humanphenotypes.net/arabidm.jpg

Kyp
07-20-2019, 05:16 PM
yes those lips are and eyes are like Extremely Arab. OP has a habit of posting random and incorrect stuff about Iranians. He is a good person but does this often. He made a morph of Assyrians, Jews, arabs and Turkmens and called it persian.

3rd man in OP looks arabid and is one.



Lol that's actually kind of funny, i'll give him that.

Oghuz
07-20-2019, 05:24 PM
Lol that's actually kind of funny, i'll give him that.

OP is a good person though, he is an expert of making morphs.

Kyp
07-20-2019, 05:28 PM
OP is a good person though, he is an expert of making morphs.

It wasn't the OP who claimed that the 3rd one looks typical persian.

Zeus
07-20-2019, 05:29 PM
He is from Dasht-e-Azedegan..meaning he is most likely (95%) an arab.

Edit: probably originally from Yemen.

where do you get that statistic from? khuzestan is majority lur... I've heard estimates of 50 to 85%... is that city a part of the arab sector of the province or something?

Kyp
07-20-2019, 05:38 PM
where do you get that statistic from? khuzestan is majority lur... I've heard estimates of 50 to 85%... is that city a part of the arab sector of the province or something?

Can't give you a statistic, but I know that the city Dasht-e-azedgan is majority arab and home to many arab clans/tribes originally from Yemen. Lurs and Persians live to the north and east of Khuzestan.

grecoroman
07-20-2019, 05:55 PM
Lol that's actually kind of funny, i'll give him that.

he calls this "Assyrians, Jews, arabs and Turkmens"

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?290245-persian-morph&highlight=Persian+morph


I only made the morph after he agreed to which players to use.

Kyp
07-20-2019, 06:01 PM
he calls this "Assyrians, Jews, arabs and Turkmens"

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?290245-persian-morph&highlight=Persian+morph


I only made the morph after he agreed to which players to use.

It's a legit morph. Caspians aren't really considered different from Persians in Iran.:thumb001:

Kyp
07-20-2019, 06:02 PM
del

Negah
07-20-2019, 06:16 PM
Kuzestan region are full with Arabs and persianized arabs

Can this be backed genetically?

Negah
07-20-2019, 06:29 PM
Can't give you a statistic, but I know that the city Dasht-e-azedgan is majority arab and home to many arab clans/tribes originally from Yemen. Lurs and Persians live to the north and east of Khuzestan.

Saki is a lur tribe but dash-e-azadegan is mainly an Arab district in Khuzestan

Saki has the same root as saka
For those who can read Persian

ایل ساکی

ساکی یکی از ایلهای لر ساکن لرستان و خوزستان و همدان[۱] با ریشه سکایی[۵] میباشد است که پس از کشته شده حسینخان ساکی رئیس ایل در اوایل حکومت میشود.[۶]

Negah
07-20-2019, 06:37 PM
2nd one looks more indian than iranian

Interesting comment. He is a Turkmen and looks like one. Tbh imo there is almost no overlap between Indians s and Turkmens.

Zeus
07-20-2019, 06:38 PM
It wasn't the OP who claimed that the 3rd one looks typical persian.

Are you talking about me lol???????

I'm not going to lie to appease you... I know Iranians and I've been to Iran, so don't try to tell me that this guy is so atypical that he has to be an arab... he's not what I would describe as a typical Iranian at all, nor is he what I would describe as atypical... the first two I would describe as atypical for sure though

Again, not a typical persian, but not atypical either IMO.

You're an Azeri so the Iranians you know look different. this guy would not be atypical among the many Iranians I know from Esfahan for example... he would be atypical as a luri-baktiari though or as a mazandarani

Zeus
07-20-2019, 06:39 PM
Interesting comment. He is a Turkmen and looks like one. Tbh imo there is almost no overlap between Indians s and Turkmens.


does he? I don't know what Turkmen look like to any significant extent so I'll take your word on that one.... he doesn't look like any Iranian I've seen is what I really meant to say

Kyp
07-20-2019, 06:44 PM
Are you talking about me lol???????

I'm not going to lie to appease you... I know Iranians and I've been to Iran, so don't try to tell me that this guy is so atypical that he has to be an arab... he's not what I would describe as a typical Iranian at all, nor is he what I would describe as atypical... the first two I would describe as atypical for sure though

Again, not a typical persian, but not atypical either IMO.

You're an Azeri so the Iranians you know look different. this guy would not be atypical among the many Iranians I know from Esfahan for example... he would be atypical as a luri-baktiari though or as a mazandarani

it's all good :thumb001: I agree he can pass as atypical southwestern Persian

Negah
07-20-2019, 07:03 PM
They're not atypical in Southern Iran.

The 1st guy is from kerman, IMO his type exists but not typical even in southern iran. Maybe in the coastal region better fit. Anyways IMO not typical but Iranian looking

Negah
07-20-2019, 07:04 PM
They don't look Arab or Indian to me but distinctly Iranians just a darker version.

I agree. The 1st and 3rd one look Iranian but darker Iranians

2nd guy is a Turkmen Iranian

I think every place has typical type and atypical types. Iran is no exception

Zoro
07-20-2019, 07:13 PM
IMO they are typical SW, SC, and some of them SE Iranians. They can also pass in other parts of Iran but perhaps atypical. I think the users saying they are atypical Iranians have either grown up outside of Iran or have spent little time in Iran.

Same thing with Iraq. Many here don’t realize that southern Iraqis are also on average darker than many north Indians. Iraq is an interesting country because there is a boundary that runs north to south. People to the east of that boundary are persianized arabs and very Indian looking. To the west of the boundary more typical arab looking. You can easily spot the more persianized and more negroid Iraqis from these pictures

http://i.imgur.com/JOsNwPN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CO5tuSP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YZwvdp6.jpg

Kyp
07-20-2019, 07:18 PM
I agree. The 1st and 3rd one look Iranian but darker Iranians

I think every place has typical type and atypical types. Iran is no exception

I still think the 3rd one looks arab. He would make a good gulf arab prince. Just because he has a Lur surname doesn't mean he isn't admixed with arabs, considering the city he is from. His lips are very arab. But I agree i'm not a good person to make these assumptions about iranians since I only have contact with azeris and northern iranians. There might be a certain overlap of southwestern iranians and arabs.

Universe
07-20-2019, 07:20 PM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/960x540/p047v0z3.jpg
Name: Arash. Singer from Sweden.


Arash Labaf was born in Tehran, Iran. At age ten, he and his family moved to Sweden, where he still resides. In an interview with BBC Persian Television, he has mentioned that his mother and father are from the Iranian cities of Shiraz and Isfahan, respectively.[1] Also in one of his interviews, he stated his great grandfather is Iranian Azerbaijani.[2][3]

Kyp
07-20-2019, 07:24 PM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/960x540/p047v0z3.jpg
Name: Arash. Singer from Sweden.

he has both azeri and persian heritage

Edit: his great grandfather is azeri. It just became an issue because he performed for Rep.Azerbaijan in the Eurovision once.

Negah
07-20-2019, 07:26 PM
I still think the 3rd one looks arab. He would make a good gulf arab prince. Just because he has a Lur surname doesn't mean he isn't admixed with arabs, considering the city he is from. His lips are very arab. But I agree i'm not a good person to make these assumptions about iranians since I only have contact with azeris and northern iranians. There might be a certain overlap of southwestern iranians and arabs.

I mean these things are subjective. Typical or atypical types differ from person to person. His lips and ears are a bit odd tbh

He may very well be mixed Arab Iranian

Duffmannn
07-23-2019, 05:54 AM
Once I met a boy from Kerman and he seamed like pakistani or north indian.

On the other hand one time I met an iranian that seamed european, pale skin, red beard and hair.

Oghuz
07-23-2019, 07:28 AM
This is how Iranians look generally. All three guys posted are atypical. These pics are from all over Iran.

https://ak5.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5388035/thumb/8.jpg
https://media-us-west-motionelements.s3.amazonaws.com/m/s/311/3114658/a-0211.jpg
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBTqWIc.img?h=415&w=624&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f&x=508&y=339
https://th.thgim.com/news/international/73v986/article26235793.ece/alternates/FREE_660/IRANREVOLUTIONANNIVERSARYTIMELINE
https://thearabweekly.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_800x450_/public/2018-07/A1101.jpg
https://gdb.rferl.org/F0D04EF4-8BD5-43E0-AC58-B0CAE44D5916_w1023_r1_s.jpg
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBTqWIc.img
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b175ee76dcad2cd3b945504e34efe3c0
https://ak3.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/5387693/thumb/1.jpg
https://gdb.rferl.org/27D3CEBB-FC3A-4E12-96E3-81B5C4818140_w1023_r1_s.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Farewell_to_Body_of_Martyr_Mohsen_Hojaji_in_Mashha d_04_%282%29.jpg
https://gdb.rferl.org/508179B3-5381-4E39-9040-252EAC54A2F5_w408_r1_s.jpg
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/D979/production/_100237655_gettyimages-695311082.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/946360222309928960/pu/img/m7EdoLu3RQRz9TVT.jpg

21993
07-23-2019, 08:56 AM
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Number 1 and 2 look pretty Persian IMO.

grecoroman
07-26-2019, 09:20 AM
Number 1 and 2 look pretty Persian IMO.

they look indian or pakistani

Oghuz
07-26-2019, 09:28 AM
they look indian or pakistani

He was trying to bring down iranians by calling them south asians lol

grecoroman
07-26-2019, 09:35 AM
He was trying to bring down iranians by calling them south asians lol

my favorite iranian musician is persian. he doesnt look southern asian at all

http://nedaesfahan.ir/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/DSC_0142.jpg
http://www.mawa.ir/documents/10180/2ee35733-5fb6-42b7-b529-d176bcb3318e?t=1506178660
https://shaboneh.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/hamed-zamani-10.jpg

Kyp
07-26-2019, 09:53 AM
He was trying to bring down iranians by calling them south asians lol

He said they looked persian not iranian. I kinda agree. Persian can be very dark.

Zoro
07-26-2019, 11:09 AM
my favorite iranian musician is persian. he doesnt look southern asian at all

http://nedaesfahan.ir/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/DSC_0142.jpg
http://www.mawa.ir/documents/10180/2ee35733-5fb6-42b7-b529-d176bcb3318e?t=1506178660
https://shaboneh.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/hamed-zamani-10.jpg


You are forgetting though that 3 of 8 Pakistan’s provinces are Balochistan (baloch, brahui, pashtuns, and yes some kurds),KPK (pashtuns mostly), Gilgit-Baltistan (kalash, hunza, and the like). He would fit it very well in those areas and tbh he could also fit in pakistan’s big cities too since people from all those areas have moved there for work.

Nomansman
03-04-2020, 09:00 AM
IMO they are typical SW, SC, and some of them SE Iranians. They can also pass in other parts of Iran but perhaps atypical. I think the users saying they are atypical Iranians have either grown up outside of Iran or have spent little time in Iran.

Same thing with Iraq. Many here don’t realize that southern Iraqis are also on average darker than many north Indians. Iraq is an interesting country because there is a boundary that runs north to south. People to the east of that boundary are persianized arabs and very Indian looking. To the west of the boundary more typical arab looking. You can easily spot the more persianized and more negroid Iraqis from these pictures

http://i.imgur.com/JOsNwPN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CO5tuSP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YZwvdp6.jpg

Lots of the people in the first and second pics can be these types that gets higher aasi + a good amount of african. Apparently a couple of middleeasterners seem to be like that, from the results i seen.