IRANIAN OR TURK?: Iranian Azeri Phenotypes (Wikipedia)

[Kyp]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Farah_Diba_1959_Iran.jpg
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Mehdi_Aliyari.jpg/240px-Mehdi_Aliyari.jpg
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[casedelpapel]

they all are Iranians, Azeri fake Turks are simply turkified Iranians, nothing turkish in them and never will be.

[Kivan]

As a group they don't look Turkish from Turkey to me(despite of that they can fit individually). They look more like darker Chechens, Circassians or something.

I don't think they look Persian at all either.

[Kyp]

As a group they don't look Turkish from Turkey to me(despite of that they can fit individually). They look more like darker Chechens, Circassians or something.

I don't think they look Persian at all either.

Thanks for your answer. i agree but there are also alot of persian looking azeris.

[Kyp]

they all are Iranians, Azeri fake Turks are simply turkified Iranians, nothing turkish in them and never will be.

okay.

[Kyp]

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[Ice]

All females can pass in turkey. they fit better in eastern anatolia than western anatolia tho. some men can't pass as ethnic turk (not as typical anyway). like these:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Akhar_%2874%29.jpg/212px-Akhar_%2874%29.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Behrouz_Vossoughi.jpg/330px-Behrouz_Vossoughi.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Aziz_Asli_2.jpg/250px-Aziz_Asli_2.jpg

My answer is (eastern) Turks.

[Thracian]

They are Turks.

[Deniz]

They re Turk or Turkic peoples from Iran.Sure They have a native admixture like an other Turkic peoples from different places.

[Tigranes]

Turkification in process...

mUh tUraNiD, tUrkiC

[Kyp]

All females can pass in turkey. they fit better in eastern anatolia than western anatolia tho. some men can't pass as ethnic turk (not as typical anyway). like these:


My answer is (eastern) Turks.

In which turkish cities they could pass? They obviously differ from Anatolian Turks since azeris are mostly Iranian (Median) + Oghuz

[Ice]

Central,southern and eastern anatolia (çorum, amasya, yozgat,adana, mersin, kayseri,erzurum).

There is a noticeable resemblance between alevi turks(kizilbas) and iranian azeris.

[Zoro]

Central,southern and eastern anatolia (çorum, amasya, yozgat,adana, mersin, kayseri,erzurum).

There is a noticeable resemblance between alevi turks(kizilbas) and iranian azeris.

Aren’t Alevis kurds though. Like Haduken is Alevi.

To me most of those pictures can pass as kurds too

[Kyp]

Aren’t Alevis kurds though. Like Haduken is Alevi.

To me most of those pictures can pass as kurds too

Obviously Azeris and Kurds share NW-Iranian ancestry.

[Ice]

Aren’t Alevis kurds though. Like Haduken is Alevi.

To me most of those pictures can pass as kurds too

2/3 of alevis in turkey are turkish(turcoman), 1/3 is kurdish(zaza).

yes, hadouken is a kurdish alevi.

[Nazarene]

They look more Kurdish than Turkish

[Kyp]

They look more Kurdish than Turkish

Thanks for your opinion.

[Alphawolf]

My impression is, that there obviously is a fundamental problem of understanding. These people are Iranian Turks and not Azaris. Azari people are Iranian people and spoke an Iranian language. Ethnic relations were transformed under the Pahlavi dynasty, which came to power in 1925. To modernize Iran, Reza Shah Pahlavi sought to construct a nation-state based on Persian culture and language. This required a campaign of Persianization, and corresponding de-Turkification, in much of the country. Restrictions were placed on publication in Turkic languages, place names were changed, and pressure was even put on parents to give their children Persian-sounding names.

The Persio-centric policies of the two Pahlavi shahs antagonized Iran’s ethnic minorities, including not just Turkic-speakers but millions of Arabs, Georgians, Kurds, and others. They also failed to resonate deeply with many Persians, who formed a bare majority of the country’s population. Under Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Iran’s head of state from 1941 to 1979, Iranian nationalism was officially based not merely on contemporary Persian culture but on 2,500 years of imperial history. By glorifying his country’s pre-Islamic past, the Shah deeply antagonized Iran’s religious leadership, contributing to the collapse of his regime in 1979.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4eg8su5qWk

[ВЛАД]

Azerbaijani people looks Caucasian-Armenoid, Persian-Iranid, Turkic-Turanid, Azerbaijanis-Caspid and mixed all of this types

[ВЛАД]

My impression is, that there obviously is a fundamental problem of understanding. These people are Iranian Turks and not Azaris. Azari people are Iranian people and spoke an Iranian language. Ethnic relations were transformed under the Pahlavi dynasty, which came to power in 1925. To modernize Iran, Reza Shah Pahlavi sought to construct a nation-state based on Persian culture and language. This required a campaign of Persianization, and corresponding de-Turkification, in much of the country. Restrictions were placed on publication in Turkic languages, place names were changed, and pressure was even put on parents to give their children Persian-sounding names.

The Persio-centric policies of the two Pahlavi shahs antagonized Iran’s ethnic minorities, including not just Turkic-speakers but millions of Arabs, Georgians, Kurds, and others. They also failed to resonate deeply with many Persians, who formed a bare majority of the country’s population. Under Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Iran’s head of state from 1941 to 1979, Iranian nationalism was officially based not merely on contemporary Persian culture but on 2,500 years of imperial history. By glorifying his country’s pre-Islamic past, the Shah deeply antagonized Iran’s religious leadership, contributing to the collapse of his regime in 1979.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4eg8su5qWk

Iranian Azeris is mixed with Persian Iranid. They not a true Azerbaijanis

[casedelpapel]

why do you all engage in such a divisive topic ? None of the Azeri population is of turkish origin, they all are brainwashed into believing they are Turks. I cant believe how some people want simply to create trouble.

[Roy]

More similar looking to Turks already, but there are some who are very Persian looking.

[Kyp]

More similar looking to Turks already, but there are some who are very Persian looking.

Yes I think they look what they are. Between Turkey, Kurdistan and Caspian Iran.

[ВЛАД]

Yes I think they look what they are. Between Turkey, Kurdistan and Caspian Iran.

and Caucasus

[Kyp]

and Caucasus

Yes

[Marmara]

why do you all engage in such a divisive topic ? None of the Azeri population is of turkish origin, they all are brainwashed into believing they are Turks. I cant believe how some people want simply to create trouble.

They were historically called Turks, only recently they were labelled Azeri by Iranian government.

[Kyp]

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[archangel]

Azeris are our brothers and these people can easily pass here(mostly eastern parts)

[ВЛАД]

This MILF is so hot

https://filmmakers.de/misc/image?id=434793&xmax=2000&ymax=1000

[Kace]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSwsZ6fZn8YtCdAwg9tSq4CerEH8HJGN sAQybm4nkI02G_6wqLT

You do know this is Greek Opera singer Maria Callas??

[Kyp]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSwsZ6fZn8YtCdAwg9tSq4CerEH8HJGN sAQybm4nkI02G_6wqLT

You do know this is Greek Opera singer Maria Callas??

No.. I thought that's a young Shohreh Aghdashloo. Google mistake

[Babak]

They look like typical Iranians tbh, especially goshifteh farahani.

As for Azeri genetics, as far as i know theyre basically 75-80% native with the rest being east asian+steppe. Pretty much a mix between Iranians, caucasians, and turkics.

[Hajimurad]

Azeris are our brothers and these people can easily pass here(mostly eastern parts)

Salim Yavuz didn't think so.

[Kyp]

Salim Yavuz didn't think so.

Well these wars had nothing to do with ethnicity.

[Bakha]

They don’t look like Anatolian Turks that’s for sure
They look like Azeris from AZ with additional Persian influence.
Women are very great looking, men are so-so

[Hajimurad]

They look like typical Iranians tbh, especially goshifteh farahani.

As for Azeri genetics, as far as i know theyre basically 75-80% native with the rest being east asian+steppe. Pretty much a mix between Iranians, caucasians, and turkics.

What the origin of Tats (Karingan, Harzand, Takestani etc) in Iranian Azerbaijan? From which provinces they came?
About Tats of Aliyev's Azerbaijan I read from Veliev-Baharlu they came from Gilan, Tabaristan (Mazandaran) and Isfahan, and speak Middle Persian dialect.

[Oghuz]

We are culturally Turkified Iranians. We did not migrate from anywhere, Azerbaijan is our home and Iran is our Vatan.

They all look different versions of Iranids, Caspids, Irano meds ...

[Hajimurad]

We are culturally Turkified Iranians. We did not migrate from anywhere, Azerbaijan is our home and Iran is our Vatan.

They all look different versions of Iranids, Caspids, Irano meds ...

Does Azerbaijanis and other Iranians have any ancestry from Daghestan? I read about Lezgins, deported by Nadir Shan to Khurasan.

[Hajimurad]

Modern Turkic-speaking Shiites of Iran are mix of Turkic and Iranian components. Descendants of Turkics came with Seljuks (Tekelu, Shamlu, Baharlu, Dulqadir, Karamanlu), Ilkhans (Afshar, Qajar, Qaragozlu) and later arrivals (Qara-qoyunlu and Aq-qoyunlu). Those, who descended from Iranians, comprise both aborigines and later immigrants. For example Harzand village inhabitants were brought by Nadir shah from Talysh, Tabatabai family came from Isfahan, Ordubadi family - from Khurasan. Also many Turkic-speaking tribes has Kurdish ancestry (Shekak, Dumbuli, Mukri).

[Kyp]

We are culturally Turkified Iranians. We did not migrate from anywhere, Azerbaijan is our home and Iran is our Vatan.

They all look different versions of Iranids, Caspids, Irano meds ...

This is highly offensive considering in my own family book it is written that we're originally migrated from around the aral sea. Please stop with this divisiveness..
Also this is an old thread and I've noticed most people in the OP aren't fully Azeri actually.

I suggest this thread to be closed if it's resulting in Anti-Turkic or Anti-Iranian propaganda.

[Bakha]

This guy looks like that Turk member, Kraftwerk:
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/76/9b/0e/769b0ed1e909e41e66239de753942142--water-polo-volleyball.jpg

[placebo]

All of them can pass in Turkey. (atypical or typical but they can pass) But some of them looks very Kurdish.