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TheWolf97
07-23-2019, 04:53 AM
I have that doubt since I've never seen euro people with that color of eyes and hairhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190723/1dc5dca0c93164d01b11c9a7c17dc746.jpg

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21993
07-23-2019, 06:47 AM
not necessarily

renaissance12
07-23-2019, 07:28 AM
I have that doubt since I've never seen euro people with that color of eyes and hairhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190723/1dc5dca0c93164d01b11c9a7c17dc746.jpg

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Do you consider also Scandinavians as europeans ? Your avatar is unusual
Europe with or without scandinavia makes no difference..

If you want you can call Scandinavians as you wish.. but scandinavia has always been of the edge of europe..And above all they never invented any musical instrument (perhaps the tam tam drum like in the Amazon?)


Europe = classical music

Zroota
07-23-2019, 07:41 AM
It's the eye shape more so.

TheWolf97
07-23-2019, 08:08 AM
Do you consider also Scandinavians as europeans ? Your avatar is unusual
Europe with or without scandinavia makes no difference..

If you want you can call Scandinavians as you wish.. but scandinavia has always been of the edge of europe..And above all they never invented any musical instrument (perhaps the tam tam drum like in the Amazon?)


Europe = classical musichahahahahahaha lol what the hell does that have to do with what I'm asking in the op I have nothing against the Scandinavians or interest me in the least

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dududud
07-23-2019, 09:35 AM
Maybe and maybe not.

Celine
07-23-2019, 09:38 AM
Dem browz!

I had just like yours, but I completely shaved them off and then draw them in.

Lazio
07-23-2019, 09:45 AM
Having dark hair and eyes is a Amerindian influence?


Of course,
here are some of the great Mestizos...

Cortés
https://www.mexicodesconocido.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/hernan-cortes.jpg
Pizarro

https://www.thoughtco.com/thmb/Hjma4rDBA-AYp9elSTZKkd6zJhA=/768x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/Portrait_of_Francisco_Pizarro-57ba592d5f9b58cdfd3e507d.jpg

Balboa
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xXmp8nl5wT8/maxresdefault.jpg

...oh no, wait, those were Europeans that came to America.



Country: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/buttons/flags/Ecuador.png



A dude from Latin America asking that question,
how's that for a joke?

Pansarkamrat
07-23-2019, 10:09 AM
Yes that is why Southern Euros are dark because it lives so many Native Americans there. I am probably related to pocahontas as well.

PaleoEuropean
07-23-2019, 10:13 AM
You look typical Southern Euro to me. You don't look Mestizo at all.

PaleoEuropean
07-23-2019, 10:14 AM
Do you consider also Scandinavians as europeans ? Your avatar is unusual
Europe with or without scandinavia makes no difference..

If you want you can call Scandinavians as you wish.. but scandinavia has always been of the edge of europe..And above all they never invented any musical instrument (perhaps the tam tam drum like in the Amazon?)


Europe = classical music

Lmao, you have some deep mental issues and a very very unhealthy obsession with white people.

chociprasa
07-23-2019, 12:14 PM
Pretty sure it's a Southern European/Middle Eastern feature aswell.

Visage pâle
07-23-2019, 12:31 PM
Of course,
here are some of the great Mestizos...

Cortés
https://www.mexicodesconocido.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/hernan-cortes.jpg
Pizarro

https://www.thoughtco.com/thmb/Hjma4rDBA-AYp9elSTZKkd6zJhA=/768x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/Portrait_of_Francisco_Pizarro-57ba592d5f9b58cdfd3e507d.jpg

Balboa
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xXmp8nl5wT8/maxresdefault.jpg

...oh no, wait, those were Europeans that came to America.



A dude from Latin America asking that question,
how's that for a joke?

Cortes had gray eyes.

Lazio
07-23-2019, 02:35 PM
You look typical Southern Euro to me. You don't look Mestizo at all.

He does not look typical.

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Cortes had gray eyes.

Cortés in Spanish museums:
http://bibliotecavirtualdefensa.es/BVMDefensa/i18n/consulta/registro.cmd?id=40873#dcId=1563891329002&p=5
http://www.mcu.es/fototeca_patrimonio/show_ficha.do?archivo=MORENO&record=00836_B#dcId=1563891329002&p=5
http://www.mcu.es/fototeca_patrimonio/show_ficha.do?archivo=RUIZ%20VERNACCI&record=VN-40750#dcId=1563891329002&p=5
http://ceres.mcu.es/pages/Viewer?accion=4&AMuseo=MAM&Museo=MAM&Ninv=00386
http://ceres.mcu.es/pages/Viewer?accion=4&AMuseo=MAM&Museo=MAM&Ninv=00377
http://ceres.mcu.es/pages/Viewer?accion=4&AMuseo=MAM&Museo=MAM&Ninv=00208
http://www.mcu.es/fototeca_patrimonio/ImageServlet?accion=41&cabecera=N&txt_id_imagen=1&txt_rotar=0&txt_contraste=0&txt_zoom=10&appOrigen=

in other museums:
https://www.kimweb.ch/sammlungen/objekt/90802950-3d56-4584-81fc-027c3778b21f



https://exploration.marinersmuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2013/11/Young-Cortes.jpg
https://okdiario.com/img/2017/06/18/hernan-cortes-1-655x368.jpg
https://www.repro-tableaux.com/kunst/italian_school/portrait_hernando_cortes_1485_hi.jpg
https://www.nationalgeographic.com.es/medio/2018/02/27/itinerario-de-hernan-cortes__800x800_2.JPG


"""CORTES""" as spread by nordtards:
https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_8:10%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cg_fa ces:center%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_620/MTE5NDg0MDU0OTMzMDQ2Nzk5/hernan-cortes-9258320-1-402.jpg
https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/sites/default/files/styles/tall_rectangle_custom_user_small_2x/public/images/contributor/cortes_360x450.jpg


But I guess you know better about that because you saw two pictures on the internet and we all should take your world into it, because... yes, why not?!

Tooting Carmen
07-23-2019, 02:39 PM
No, not always. Btw, you look pseudo-South Asian to me.

PaleoEuropean
07-23-2019, 02:46 PM
He does not look typical.

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Cortés in Spanish museums:
http://bibliotecavirtualdefensa.es/BVMDefensa/i18n/consulta/registro.cmd?id=40873#dcId=1563891329002&p=5
http://www.mcu.es/fototeca_patrimonio/show_ficha.do?archivo=MORENO&record=00836_B#dcId=1563891329002&p=5
http://www.mcu.es/fototeca_patrimonio/show_ficha.do?archivo=RUIZ%20VERNACCI&record=VN-40750#dcId=1563891329002&p=5
http://ceres.mcu.es/pages/Viewer?accion=4&AMuseo=MAM&Museo=MAM&Ninv=00386
http://ceres.mcu.es/pages/Viewer?accion=4&AMuseo=MAM&Museo=MAM&Ninv=00377
http://ceres.mcu.es/pages/Viewer?accion=4&AMuseo=MAM&Museo=MAM&Ninv=00208
http://www.mcu.es/fototeca_patrimonio/ImageServlet?accion=41&cabecera=N&txt_id_imagen=1&txt_rotar=0&txt_contraste=0&txt_zoom=10&appOrigen=

in other museums:
https://www.kimweb.ch/sammlungen/objekt/90802950-3d56-4584-81fc-027c3778b21f



https://exploration.marinersmuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2013/11/Young-Cortes.jpg
https://okdiario.com/img/2017/06/18/hernan-cortes-1-655x368.jpg
https://www.repro-tableaux.com/kunst/italian_school/portrait_hernando_cortes_1485_hi.jpg
https://www.nationalgeographic.com.es/medio/2018/02/27/itinerario-de-hernan-cortes__800x800_2.JPG


"""CORTES""" as spread by nordtards:
https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_8:10%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cg_fa ces:center%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_620/MTE5NDg0MDU0OTMzMDQ2Nzk5/hernan-cortes-9258320-1-402.jpg
https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/sites/default/files/styles/tall_rectangle_custom_user_small_2x/public/images/contributor/cortes_360x450.jpg


But I guess you know better about that because you saw two pictures on the internet and we all should take your world into it, because... yes, why not?!

https://i.imgur.com/41udGPK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7p0Cd0t.png
https://i.imgur.com/pDnPVIe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FyPfCaa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6Rk6jd5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SYaLIr2.png
https://i.imgur.com/wltLAsG.jpg

Lazio
07-23-2019, 03:11 PM
...


Funny, you said typical Southern EURO, and then you post a chart about East Meds that are predominant in the Levantine area?!
Anyway, that doesn't offend/annoy me, I'm not even saying that Meds from other areas are totally different than Euro Meds (or that they don't exist at all in euro areas (because migration))... but no, OP doesn't look a typical EURO med.

Btw

https://i.imgur.com/6Rk6jd5.jpg

I don't see the guy on the right passing in any Southern European country as a native.
And the other image about the classical example of a med. doesn't look like OP, but maybe you can't see that.

Duffmannn
07-23-2019, 04:27 PM
https://i.imgur.com/41udGPK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7p0Cd0t.png
https://i.imgur.com/pDnPVIe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FyPfCaa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6Rk6jd5.jpg
]

Typical white americans. Jew-native american-black influence.

That's why north africans, middle eastern, central asianas and somalis-sudanese-mauritanian are consideared white in the USA.

Duffmannn
07-23-2019, 04:32 PM
No necesariamente, pero es cierto que tus ojos son atípicamente oscuros incluso para España.

Lo que sí es un rasgo amerindio es tener el cabello grueso, ni tener canas a cierta edad (no necesariamente de viejo), así como no tener barba (hay gente en Europa sin barba, pero muy muy poquitos). También carecer de pelo en el cuerpo (piernas, brazos...)

Pero sí hay gente, mucha, con el pelo negro. No tanto en el caso de de los ojos que tienden a ser como mucho marrón claro y una minoría marrón oscuro (pero se distingue el marrón con claridad).

itilvolga
07-23-2019, 04:40 PM
Well, it’s much more about the features instead of the pigmentation.

Lazio
07-23-2019, 05:04 PM
ni tener canas a cierta edad (no necesariamente de viejo)[...]
What does that phrase implies? That Native Americans go grey later than Euros?

Duffmannn
07-23-2019, 05:06 PM
What does that phrase implies? That Native Americans go gray later than Euros?

Native americans, pure ones, doesn't have grey/white hairs. Not even elders.

War Chef
07-23-2019, 05:10 PM
I have dark hair and eyes but 90% of my classification thread said i look European (balkan)..... I think facial morphology matters too

Aodhan
07-23-2019, 05:22 PM
you should care more about your eyebrows than you hair and eyes tho

JosephK
07-23-2019, 05:23 PM
Ummm... To clarify, dark hair and eyes is NORMAL throughout the entire world except for Northern Europe.

Lazio
07-23-2019, 05:23 PM
Native americans, pure ones, doesn't have grey/white hairs. Not even elders.

I don't know where you got that from, but not true at all, I've seen with my own eyes and they were not mixed.

http://www.funai.gov.br/arquivos/conteudo/ascom/2019/CENA%202.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Raoni_Metuktire_in_April_2015.jpg
https://www.redebrasilatual.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/raoni_jose_cruz_abr_600.jpg
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51HAaXPZF8L.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fb/f7/43/fbf7438685d31da8e39217d9a2477c47.jpg
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/A29PHE/old-native-cree-lady-mistissini-reservation-next-to-james-bay-quebec-A29PHE.jpg
https://as2.ftcdn.net/jpg/02/28/71/35/500_F_228713534_6PgKq4kyGAu4kQGMlRv5WRjB9u4jRg3O.j pg

I think the only group, when in its pure form, don't go grey are the redheads.

Tenma de Pegasus
07-23-2019, 05:33 PM
You Iberian to me.

Say you are trolling pls

Tooting Carmen
07-23-2019, 05:40 PM
Ummm... To clarify, dark hair and eyes is NORMAL throughout the entire world except for Scandinavia.

Fixed. Most French and many Brits, Irish, Dutch, Belgians, Germans, Poles etc. have dark hair too.

jmls
07-23-2019, 05:45 PM
Yeah sure, these Northern Europeans must have Amerindid influences:picard2:
https://nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/594747464_132290297.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1
https://staticcdn.svenskfotboll.se/img/playerntnl/207557.jpg

renaissance12
07-25-2019, 07:53 AM
Lmao, you have some deep mental issues and a very very unhealthy obsession with white people.



I don't hate Blonde nordid ( you don't look nordid at all.. my idiot american teen ager you are mixed with all ethnic groups living in USA.. ).. why are you so nervous when someome claims that there are/were very few great blonde scientists or mathematicians ( please don't post pics of low level american scientist ) ? It is a fact..not an opinion..

Zroota
07-25-2019, 08:02 AM
Yeah sure, these Northern Europeans must have Amerindid influences:picard2:
https://nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/594747464_132290297.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1
Simon Cowell is half Jewish though.

The Blade
07-25-2019, 11:21 AM
Not at all. Lol. Plenty of Europeans have dark hair and eyes, especially in the south, and they have nothing to do with Amerindians.

PaleoEuropean
07-25-2019, 12:01 PM
I don't hate Blonde nordid ( you don't look nordid at all.. my idiot american teen ager you are mixed with all ethnic groups living in USA.. ).. why are you so nervous when someome claims that there are/were very few great blonde scientists or mathematicians ( please don't post pics of low level american scientist ) ? It is a fact..not an opinion..
stop trying to deflect you weirdo go take your medicatio, your short man syndrome is well known throughout the community, why the fucking would I post scientists in someones thread about their looks. Stop being such an obsessive incel and go get a hobby.

renaissance12
07-25-2019, 01:54 PM
stop trying to deflect you weirdo go take your medicatio, your short man syndrome is well known throughout the community, why the fucking would I post scientists in someones thread about their looks. Stop being such an obsessive incel and go get a hobby.


What strange avatar.. it seems your twin Brother.... my "dear" Young ( idiot ? ) keyboard warrior

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/image.php?u=24285&dateline=1563876888

Cristiano viejo
07-25-2019, 02:59 PM
You look typical Southern Euro to me. You don't look Mestizo at all.
TROLOLOLOL.
This just indicates how much expert you are in South Europeans, despite what you try to show :rolleyes:

PaleoEuropean
07-25-2019, 03:01 PM
TROLOLOLOL.
This just indicates how much expert you are in South Europeans, despite what you try to show :rolleyes:

Literally everyone southern European on here has dark skin, dark eyes and Dark hair except like 1 female

Duffmannn
07-25-2019, 03:23 PM
I don't know where you got that from, but not true at all, I've seen with my own eyes and they were not mixed.

.

It is known that amerindians (pure ones) don´t use to have white hair, it is a famous known fact even counted on films and popular knowledge (at least in Spain)

Maybe I hav exaggerated a bit and only their hair becomes white more elder.

Duffmannn
07-25-2019, 03:25 PM
TROLOLOLOL.
This just indicates how much expert you are in South Europeans, despite what you try to show :rolleyes:

He´s just a troll.

Anyways, USA will become a mexican (and black and asian) - european mixed nation. Most americans will be like the opener.

gıulıoımpa
07-25-2019, 03:26 PM
https://youtu.be/AI6mI2F0qcA

Cristiano viejo
07-25-2019, 03:55 PM
Literally everyone southern European on here has dark skin, dark eyes and Dark hair except like 1 female

Not my problem if you feel good barking lies and estupidities, Jew.

Rgvgjhvv
07-25-2019, 03:56 PM
I'm 60% Peruvian native so this makes sense

Celestia
07-25-2019, 04:44 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=89672&d=1564072944

I have dark hair and eyes as well but I would say I look Euro. I know some on here would disagree.

Lousianaboy
07-25-2019, 04:49 PM
No, the amerindian eyes resemble the siberian eyes, like the chineses

Lazio
07-25-2019, 08:59 PM
I have dark hair and eyes as well but I would say I look Euro. I know some on here would disagree.

You look black.

Lazio
07-25-2019, 09:01 PM
it is a famous known FALSE RUMOUR even counted on films and popular knowledge (at least in Spain)


Fixed.

KingOf
07-25-2019, 09:05 PM
God damn it i can't score 100% euro then

Scouseman
07-25-2019, 09:10 PM
Not my problem if you feel good barking lies and estupidities, Jew.

It‘s no lie, and you are among the swarthiest of the Southern European members. That explains why your inferiority complex is the greatest out of all.

Lazio
07-25-2019, 09:15 PM
It‘s no lie



Obese and Low-IQ

Scouseman
07-25-2019, 09:19 PM
Obese and Low-IQ

Stears‘ baby put that there. Not me.

Celestia
07-26-2019, 05:05 PM
You look black.

Damnit you caught me

Adamastor
07-26-2019, 05:12 PM
The great mystery of genetics is why Amerindians are uniformly dark-haired and dark-eyed if they carry light hair and eyes alleles.

sean
07-26-2019, 05:14 PM
Damnit you caught me

You look hot. :wink

Lazio
07-26-2019, 05:24 PM
The great mystery of genetics is why Amerindians are uniformly dark-haired and dark-eyed if they carry light hair and eyes alleles.

Don't know your sources or how frequent that is... but I bet that is quite simple:
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-204ca6904cd344be46492c51c3292594

Adamastor
07-26-2019, 07:21 PM
Don't know your sources or how frequent that is... but I bet that is quite simple:
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All of them carry these alleles because this mutation first arrived among Ancient North Eurasians who passed it in Europe to EHGs and later to Indo-Europeans via EHG. Amerindians are roughly 40% ANE.

Mopi Licinius Crassus
07-26-2019, 07:22 PM
eye colour is determined by multiple alleles ....not Mendelian inheritance as indicated in that diagram

sometimes blue eyed parents can have a brown eyed child for example

rajputprincess
07-26-2019, 07:36 PM
You look black.I can agree with middle East or castiza but black lol no

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rajputprincess
07-26-2019, 07:37 PM
You look hot. :winkShe didn't asked for it

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sean
07-26-2019, 07:41 PM
She didn't asked for it

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Ok pajeet.

Scouseman
07-26-2019, 08:02 PM
eye colour is determined by multiple alleles ....not Mendelian inheritance as indicated in that diagram

sometimes blue eyed parents can have a brown eyed child for example

Not only multiple alleles, but over multiple genes. GEY, OCA2, HERC2, SLC24A5, SLC45A2...

It’s polygenic and polygenic traits are typically continuous.

It’s no so discrete where all blue eyes are equally recessive.

Lazio
07-26-2019, 08:02 PM
I can agree with middle East or castiza but black lol no

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That's a reference about an autistic/troll user, he said that, I was just kidding.

Scouseman
07-26-2019, 08:20 PM
That's a reference about an autistic/troll user, he said that, I was just kidding.

I wasn’t trolling there. She looks like she has distant African ancestry which she does.

Lazio
07-26-2019, 08:45 PM
I wasn’t trolling there. She looks like she has distant African ancestry which she does.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/150/e5a73d10dbbf668234da460df2d1b2bf.jpg

Scouseman
07-26-2019, 08:46 PM
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/021/150/e5a73d10dbbf668234da460df2d1b2bf.jpg

Not that distant. Like she could have a West-African grandparent.

Lazio
07-26-2019, 08:49 PM
Not that distant. Like she could have a West-African grandparent.

No. We all have near SSA ancestors!

Scouseman
07-26-2019, 08:50 PM
No. We all have near SSA ancestors!

That guy doesn’t look like has any black ancestors in the last 100 or so years. She does.

Celestia
07-26-2019, 08:57 PM
That guy doesn’t look like has any black ancestors in the last 100 or so years. She does.

My African ancestor was from the 1700’s. I believe she was my 8th great grandmother.

I told my African American boyfriend your comment about me looking partly black and he laughed.
If they don’t claim me, then I can’t claim it lol

Cumansky
07-26-2019, 08:59 PM
My African ancestor was from the 1700’s. I believe she was my 8th great grandmother.

I told my African American boyfriend your comment about me looking partly black and he laughed.
If they don’t claim me, then I can’t claim it lol

You probably just Spanish Jewish

Celestia
07-26-2019, 09:00 PM
You probably just Spanish Jewish

Lol no. I’m predominantly British, Breton/French even though I don’t look it. I’m only 4% Southern Euro.

Lazio
07-26-2019, 09:02 PM
That guy doesn’t look like has any black ancestors in the last 100 or so years. She does.

Are you kidding, Dawkins almost looks Somalian.
What do you think his surname stands for? Dawkings! (if you can read between the lines: Dawkangz!)

Cumansky
07-26-2019, 09:04 PM
Lol no. I’m predominantly British, Breton/French even though I don’t look it. I’m only 4% Southern Euro.

Hard to believe

Scouseman
07-26-2019, 09:05 PM
My African ancestor was from the 1700’s. I believe she was my 8th great grandmother.

I told my African American boyfriend your comment about me looking partly black and he laughed.
If they don’t claim me, then I can’t claim it lol

I knew a Mullato Scouser who vaguely resembled you. Just a chance thing.
You don’t really look all that Black.

Celestia
07-26-2019, 09:06 PM
Hard to believe

I know but it’s what every dna test gives me so it has to be accurate

Cumansky
07-26-2019, 09:07 PM
I know but it’s what every dna test gives me so it has to be accurate

DNA tests lie tho

Alenka
07-26-2019, 09:07 PM
Not necessarily, as there are plenty of Europeans with dark hair and eyes.

Joso
07-26-2019, 09:13 PM
Yes, It is, mostly. Even the Europeans with this trait are exactly the ones with high ANE( ancestral eurasian amerindan-like component).

HelloGuys
07-26-2019, 09:14 PM
No necesariamente, pero es cierto que tus ojos son atípicamente oscuros incluso para España.

Lo que sí es un rasgo amerindio es tener el cabello grueso, ni tener canas a cierta edad (no necesariamente de viejo), así como no tener barba (hay gente en Europa sin barba, pero muy muy poquitos). También carecer de pelo en el cuerpo (piernas, brazos...)

Pero sí hay gente, mucha, con el pelo negro. No tanto en el caso de de los ojos que tienden a ser como mucho marrón claro y una minoría marrón oscuro (pero se distingue el marrón con claridad).

Wow, interesante, es cierto, casi todos los españoles que he visto son bastante peludos en brazos y piernas, además de barbudos (Aunque tenían una barba de 3 días) y tenían un cabello algo castaño y ojos cafés claros

Pero tengo una duda, también son muy peludos en el pecho y abdomen? O casi no? Y cuál es la moda ahorita rn España con la barba? Es decir, si la llevan corta o larga...o algún estilo como barba candado?

HelloGuys
07-26-2019, 09:18 PM
I have dark hair and eyes but 90% of my classification thread said i look European (balkan)..... I think facial morphology matters too

Agree, Imo facial morphology is the most important

Celestia
07-26-2019, 09:18 PM
Yes, It is, mostly. Even the Europeans with this trait are exactly the ones with high ANE( ancestral eurasian amerindan-like component).

I don’t though

Actually what’s the best gedmatch to test this with? I’m curious what I get

HelloGuys
07-26-2019, 09:24 PM
I have dark hair and eyes as well but I would say I look Euro. I know some on here would disagree.

You look euro, yes; who told you otherwise???

Scouseman
07-26-2019, 09:25 PM
Yes, It is, mostly. Even the Europeans with this trait are exactly the ones with high ANE( ancestral eurasian amerindan-like component).

But ANE admixture is greatest in some of the most depigmented areas of Europe like Estonia.

Joso
07-26-2019, 09:42 PM
But ANE admixture is greatest in some of the most depigmented areas of Europe like Estonia.

That is because they lack the non-European admixture that is present in much of the darker Europeans.

Celestia
07-26-2019, 09:45 PM
You look euro, yes; who told you otherwise???

Carlito's Way thought I was lying about being European and I was a closeted Mexican lol.

HelloGuys
07-27-2019, 12:06 AM
Carlito's Way thought I was lying about being European and I was a closeted Mexican lol.

You can pass as mexican, but not as the "stereotype" mexican, I think you would be considerer barely like white mexican; but if I would see you in Europe I would think that you were Native European

In fact I though that you were cuban-white, you give me that vibe

Celestia
07-27-2019, 12:30 AM
You can pass as mexican, but not as the "stereotype" mexican, I think you would be considerer barely like white mexican; but if I would see you in Europe I would think that you were Native European

In fact I though that you were cuban-white, you give me that vibe

That’s funny you say that
My mother scores “white Cuban” pretty high on her k36 ancestral report

HelloGuys
07-27-2019, 12:51 AM
That’s funny you say that
My mother scores “white Cuban” pretty high on her k36 ancestral report

Really?? Jaja that's new lol what percentage scored your mom?

Lazio
07-27-2019, 12:56 AM
Carlito's Way thought I was lying about being European and I was a closeted Mexican lol.

Don't forget about Mortimer saying that he thought you were a closeted Gypsy trolling the forum.

Lafaur
07-27-2019, 01:24 AM
IDK but my hair's blacker than Chief Keef's crotch and my Pocahontas background ain't even that high

https://i.imgur.com/noyX20p.jpg

Celestia
07-27-2019, 04:12 AM
Don't forget about Mortimer saying that he thought you were a closeted Gypsy trolling the forum.

lmao yes I forgot. Hey I do have 0.3% Broadly South Asian on 23andme haha

Lazio
07-27-2019, 04:25 AM
IDK but my hair's blacker [...]

Many Native Americans have brown hair. So black hair doesn't prove anything, since some Euros also have it.

Duffmannn
07-27-2019, 06:48 AM
Wow, interesante, es cierto, casi todos los españoles que he visto son bastante peludos en brazos y piernas, además de barbudos (Aunque tenían una barba de 3 días) y tenían un cabello algo castaño y ojos cafés claros

Pero tengo una duda, también son muy peludos en el pecho y abdomen? O casi no? Y cuál es la moda ahorita rn España con la barba? Es decir, si la llevan corta o larga...o algún estilo como barba candado?

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Duffmannn
07-27-2019, 06:52 AM
Wow, interesante, es cierto, casi todos los españoles que he visto son bastante peludos en brazos y piernas, además de barbudos (Aunque tenían una barba de 3 días) y tenían un cabello algo castaño y ojos cafés claros

Pero tengo una duda, también son muy peludos en el pecho y abdomen? O casi no? Y cuál es la moda ahorita rn España con la barba? Es decir, si la llevan corta o larga...o algún estilo como barba candado?

Ahora están de moda las barbas en España, cerradas siempre sí. Más bien cortas, aunque hay bastante gente que le queda bien larga.

En mi pueblo, que es pequeño, hay un chaval que ha hecho algún curso para retocar barbas y está ganando dinero. Así que imagínate.

Yo me dejo la barba corta, si me la dejo larga parezco yihadista, más ahora con el moreno del verano.

Respecto al pelo en el resto del cuerpo sí, hay gente que puede llegar a parecer osos, y no son pocos. Pero fuera del pelo en brazos, piernas y barba, estos se desarrollan cuando uno ya es plenamente adulto. A mí estos últimos años me está saliendo pelo en el área que va del ombligo a la entrepierna, siempre he tenido pelo en el pecho. Pero es común que haya gente con pelos en la espalda o en el culo, lo cual no es muy estético la verdad.

PD: Otro rasgo corporal muy español, también europeo, es la calvicie. No hay amerindios calvos.

Grace O'Malley
07-27-2019, 07:18 AM
Yes, It is, mostly. Even the Europeans with this trait are exactly the ones with high ANE( ancestral eurasian amerindan-like component).

I have a high Steppe component as far as Euros go but it gives me a reasonable Scando result.


[1] "distance%=2.8762"

_scaled

Steppe,54
Anatolian_Farmer,31
Atlantic_HG,13
Baltic_HG,2


v2


[1] "distance%=2.9467"

_scaled

Steppe,53.8
Atlantic,42
Baltic,4.2

"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Irish Norwegian Shetlandic Dutch
2.383275 2.842534 3.334666 5.447935
English French_Brittany Swedish German
5.871967 6.235383 7.282857 12.396774

"distance%=1.6068"


Irish,64.4
Norwegian,34.4
Udmurt,0.8
Finnish,0.2
Finnish_East,0.2

pen=0

"distance%=1.5844"


Irish,65
Norwegian,33.2
Udmurt,1.8

High ANE/Steppe is higher in Northern Europe.

Grace O'Malley
07-27-2019, 07:24 AM
Lol no. I’m predominantly British, Breton/French even though I don’t look it. I’m only 4% Southern Euro.

You should get your Global 25 coordinates off Davidski. You can then use nMonte to break down your dna even further with all different models. Ask your buddy Dick about it. :) It's a great tool for anyone and really worth the small cost.

Celestia
07-27-2019, 03:20 PM
You should get your Global 25 coordinates off Davidski. You can then use nMonte to break down your dna even further with all different models. Ask your buddy Dick about it. :) It's a great tool for anyone and really worth the small cost.

I actually bought my coordinates and the nMonte wouldn’t work on my computer. Maybe Dick would run it for me

Dick
07-27-2019, 03:27 PM
I actually bought my coordinates and the nMonte wouldn’t work on my computer. Maybe Dick would run it for me

I can do it on Monday I don’t have my laptop all weekend PM me your coordinates

Carlito's Way
07-28-2019, 01:00 AM
All of them carry these alleles because this mutation first arrived among Ancient North Eurasians who passed it in Europe to EHGs and later to Indo-Europeans via EHG. Amerindians are roughly 40% ANE.

ANE is Mongoloid!!!

Celestia
07-29-2019, 10:57 PM
You should get your Global 25 coordinates off Davidski. You can then use nMonte to break down your dna even further with all different models. Ask your buddy Dick about it. :) It's a great tool for anyone and really worth the small cost.

Dick did my G25 Coordinates

CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
English French_Brittany
0.1452712 0.1509772
English_Cornwall Orcadian
0.1555091 0.1592570
Icelandic Irish
0.1595868 0.1631813
England_Roman Welsh
0.1639238 0.1647778
Scottish Belgian
0.1652239 0.1672908
Dutch ITA_Collegno_MA
0.1685633 0.1723094
Scotland_LBA England_MBA
0.1744332 0.1775575
England_IA Norwegian
0.1808661 0.1868216
Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale England_Saxon
0.1868758 0.1890339
Bell_Beaker_POL Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
0.1899268 0.1918136
Wales_CA_EBA Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
0.1925876 0.1933863
England_CA_EBA Levant_LBN_MA_Euro
0.1936458 0.1947353
Bell_Beaker_CZE French
0.1947736 0.1963369
DEU_MA HUN_MA_Szolad
0.1971032 0.1976722
German IRL_BA
0.1977754 0.2025870
Swedish Shetlandic
0.2040735 0.2138778
Scotland_MBA CZE_Unetice_EBA
0.2145657 0.2147982
French_East Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.2163278 0.2203202
Bell_Beaker_Scotland Bell_Beaker_England
0.2214548 0.2237778
DEU_Unetice_EBA Swiss_German
0.2240212 0.2243664
Scotland_CA_EBA Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.2252550 0.2304374
CZE_EBA SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
0.2343395 0.2435467
Bell_Beaker_NLD DEU_Alberstedt_LN
0.2436477 0.2436678
DEU_Halberstadt_LBA DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN
0.2466556 0.2526138
SVK_Poprad_MA England_LBA
0.2540492 0.2548411
Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1 Bell_Beaker_FRA
0.2555346 0.2568310
Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES Nordic_MN_B
0.2601293 0.2603843
England_EMBA Swiss_French
0.2615167 0.2617590
NLD_BA POL_Unetice_EBA
0.2710724 0.2721475
Scythian_MDA_o2 HUN_MA_Szolad_o2
0.2761757 0.2780540
Iberia_Central_CA_Stp Austrian
0.2799853 0.2824887
Spanish_Barcelones DEU_MA_ACD
0.2854447 0.2868668
Spanish_Penedes Nordic_BA
0.2886884 0.2892046
Spanish_Catalunya_Central Spanish_Lleida
0.2892870 0.2909781
Spanish_Mallorca Nordic_LN
0.2915829 0.2926045
Spanish_Peri-Barcelona SWE_IA
0.2929697 0.2935098
Spanish_Cataluna POL_Chopice_Wesele_Culture
0.2954344 0.2958416
SWE_Battle-Axe Spanish_Alacant
0.2960604 0.2967269
Spanish_Girona Bell_Beaker_England_EBA
0.2987031 0.2987223
Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.3001379 0.3019354
Spanish_Eivissa Spanish_Castello
0.3029015 0.3064167
Spanish_Cantabria Bell_Beaker_CHE
0.3082733 0.3092871
Spanish_Valencia FIN_Levanluhta_IA_o
0.3102346 0.3118060
German_East Spanish_Aragon
0.3129585 0.3163644
Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.3177043 0.3188230
Spanish_Pirineu French_South
0.3211292 0.3226582
Portuguese Spanish_Baleares
0.3233228 0.3257517
Corded_Ware_POL Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.3262345 0.3272378
Spanish_Extremadura Iberia_North_IA
0.3282219 0.3283299
Spanish_Galicia Spanish_Andalucia
0.3333368 0.3344064

Universe
07-30-2019, 05:02 AM
ANE is Mongoloid!!!

Nope.

Carlito's Way
07-30-2019, 05:41 AM
Nope.

yes it is, it is found the highest in Amerindians/Mongoloid people
and in europeans, it is found the highest in those with ancient mongoloid roots.....

Dick
07-30-2019, 05:46 AM
Dick did my G25 Coordinates

CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
English French_Brittany
0.1452712 0.1509772
English_Cornwall Orcadian
0.1555091 0.1592570
Icelandic Irish
0.1595868 0.1631813
England_Roman Welsh
0.1639238 0.1647778
Scottish Belgian
0.1652239 0.1672908
Dutch ITA_Collegno_MA
0.1685633 0.1723094
Scotland_LBA England_MBA
0.1744332 0.1775575
England_IA Norwegian
0.1808661 0.1868216
Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale England_Saxon
0.1868758 0.1890339
Bell_Beaker_POL Bell_Beaker_Bavaria
0.1899268 0.1918136
Wales_CA_EBA Bell_Beaker_FRA_C
0.1925876 0.1933863
England_CA_EBA Levant_LBN_MA_Euro
0.1936458 0.1947353
Bell_Beaker_CZE French
0.1947736 0.1963369
DEU_MA HUN_MA_Szolad
0.1971032 0.1976722
German IRL_BA
0.1977754 0.2025870
Swedish Shetlandic
0.2040735 0.2138778
Scotland_MBA CZE_Unetice_EBA
0.2145657 0.2147982
French_East Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL
0.2163278 0.2203202
Bell_Beaker_Scotland Bell_Beaker_England
0.2214548 0.2237778
DEU_Unetice_EBA Swiss_German
0.2240212 0.2243664
Scotland_CA_EBA Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.2252550 0.2304374
CZE_EBA SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
0.2343395 0.2435467
Bell_Beaker_NLD DEU_Alberstedt_LN
0.2436477 0.2436678
DEU_Halberstadt_LBA DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN
0.2466556 0.2526138
SVK_Poprad_MA England_LBA
0.2540492 0.2548411
Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1 Bell_Beaker_FRA
0.2555346 0.2568310
Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES Nordic_MN_B
0.2601293 0.2603843
England_EMBA Swiss_French
0.2615167 0.2617590
NLD_BA POL_Unetice_EBA
0.2710724 0.2721475
Scythian_MDA_o2 HUN_MA_Szolad_o2
0.2761757 0.2780540
Iberia_Central_CA_Stp Austrian
0.2799853 0.2824887
Spanish_Barcelones DEU_MA_ACD
0.2854447 0.2868668
Spanish_Penedes Nordic_BA
0.2886884 0.2892046
Spanish_Catalunya_Central Spanish_Lleida
0.2892870 0.2909781
Spanish_Mallorca Nordic_LN
0.2915829 0.2926045
Spanish_Peri-Barcelona SWE_IA
0.2929697 0.2935098
Spanish_Cataluna POL_Chopice_Wesele_Culture
0.2954344 0.2958416
SWE_Battle-Axe Spanish_Alacant
0.2960604 0.2967269
Spanish_Girona Bell_Beaker_England_EBA
0.2987031 0.2987223
Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.3001379 0.3019354
Spanish_Eivissa Spanish_Castello
0.3029015 0.3064167
Spanish_Cantabria Bell_Beaker_CHE
0.3082733 0.3092871
Spanish_Valencia FIN_Levanluhta_IA_o
0.3102346 0.3118060
German_East Spanish_Aragon
0.3129585 0.3163644
Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.3177043 0.3188230
Spanish_Pirineu French_South
0.3211292 0.3226582
Portuguese Spanish_Baleares
0.3233228 0.3257517
Corded_Ware_POL Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.3262345 0.3272378
Spanish_Extremadura Iberia_North_IA
0.3282219 0.3283299
Spanish_Galicia Spanish_Andalucia
0.3333368 0.3344064

Sexy Anglo-Baguette

Universe
07-30-2019, 09:56 AM
yes it is, it is found the highest in Amerindians/Mongoloid people

Wrong.
Mongoloids have very little if any ANE, they have the least ANE on the Eurasian continent. Japan 2%, Italy 8%. Vietnam 0%, Iran 20%. Read: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JVGdg2UsN3jYWgaoxAZu-QsAmuCaq3kT7FvqSXwUsAA/pubhtml

Siberians have high ANE, but so do many other Eurasian groups such as South Asians, Iranians, Caucasians etc. Siberians plot in between Europeans and East Asians, they're not pure mongoloid anyway...
Even Assyrians (stereotypical middle eastern looking) have more ANE than any Mongoloid (East or Southeast asian) group...
So nope, ANE isn't mongoloid. ANE is the reason Amerindians don't look like East Asians.

Rocinante
07-30-2019, 12:05 PM
Not black hair, but that very dark eyes could mean american native or sub-saharan ancestry. Where i live, it would be atypical.

Celestia
07-31-2019, 12:09 AM
Sexy Anglo-Baguette

Anglo Baguette?
Sounds better than a griddle cake

TheWolf97
07-31-2019, 01:55 AM
Not black hair, but that very dark eyes could mean american native or sub-saharan ancestry. Where i live, it would be atypical.It is ironic that my parents have clear eyes and my sister and I have not found it inherited.it's probably because of my Amerindian mix because I don't have SSA.




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HelloGuys
07-31-2019, 01:59 AM
Ahora están de moda las barbas en España, cerradas siempre sí. Más bien cortas, aunque hay bastante gente que le queda bien larga.

En mi pueblo, que es pequeño, hay un chaval que ha hecho algún curso para retocar barbas y está ganando dinero. Así que imagínate.

Yo me dejo la barba corta, si me la dejo larga parezco yihadista, más ahora con el moreno del verano.

Respecto al pelo en el resto del cuerpo sí, hay gente que puede llegar a parecer osos, y no son pocos. Pero fuera del pelo en brazos, piernas y barba, estos se desarrollan cuando uno ya es plenamente adulto. A mí estos últimos años me está saliendo pelo en el área que va del ombligo a la entrepierna, siempre he tenido pelo en el pecho. Pero es común que haya gente con pelos en la espalda o en el culo, lo cual no es muy estético la verdad.

PD: Otro rasgo corporal muy español, también europeo, es la calvicie. No hay amerindios calvos.

Perdon por no contestarte, a veces no me llegan las notificaciones :/

Genial, me voy a mudar allá y hacer mi propio negocio de barbería también jajja que bueno que esté la moda de la barba, así no nos destrozamos la cara todos los días jaja

Y te entiendo con la barba larga, a mi no me sale muy completa que digamos, pero al menos se me cierra apenas el candado (Bigote con barba) y me la puedo dejar sin que se vea fea ni descuidada, pero cuando me la dejo larga y como tengo el cabello medio-largo parezo Jesús jajaja de hecho tuve que rebajarmela para no tener problemas al entrar a USA (Ya que un amigo se dejó la barba algo larga y lo revisaron bastante en el aeropuerto)

Pelo en la espalda, trasero y orejas no es para anda estético, concuerdo, se ve asqueroso, una depilación hace falta xdd yo no tengo casi en el pecho ni estómago, pero ya me está saliendo más que antes, de todos modos apenas soy un adulto joven, así que todavía me falta años para desarrollarme y me salga más pelos (Para bien o para mal lol) ya que mi familia es algo peluda y barbuda, y también tienen calvicie (Unos parcial y otros casi completo) unos tíos más pelones que otros, pero lo tienen (Desde unas entradas algo masivas hasta calvos sin pelo en la coronilla ni nada)...espero que mis genes amerindios me permitan retener el mayor cabello posible para siempre jaja

PD: Con barba corta te refieres a barba de pocos días de crecimiento? (Tipo 3, 5, 10 días) o con un mes de crecimiento?

Rocinante
07-31-2019, 05:56 AM
It is ironic that my parents have clear eyes and my sister and I have not found it inherited.it's probably because of my Amerindian mix because I don't have SSA.




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Have you done a DNA test?

Lazio
07-31-2019, 06:01 AM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/images/smilies/butterfly1.gif

It took you sometime to come back huh?!

PaleoEuropean
07-31-2019, 06:20 AM
It is ironic that my parents have clear eyes and my sister and I have not found it inherited.it's probably because of my Amerindian mix because I don't have SSA.




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It has nothing to due with race at all, it has to do with melanin and genetic expression, there are dark brown eyes like yours in small numbers in every country.

Rocinante
07-31-2019, 06:23 AM
It took you sometime to come back huh?!

Was busy mate

Duffmannn
07-31-2019, 10:32 AM
PD: Con barba corta te refieres a barba de pocos días de crecimiento? (Tipo 3, 5, 10 días) o con un mes de crecimiento?

Unos dos dedos de largo como máximo.

Paradójicamente los mismos genes que producen el tener cuerpo por todo el cuerpo, son los mismos que producen la calvicie (eso leí).

TheWolf97
08-01-2019, 02:59 AM
Have you done a DNA test?if I have done it besides that in my phenotype I don't have negroid features

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TheWolf97
08-01-2019, 03:09 AM
Unos dos dedos de largo como máximo.

Paradójicamente los mismos genes que producen el tener cuerpo por todo el cuerpo, son los mismos que producen la calvicie (eso leí).Jajaja es un poco irónico? Tengo un primo que es muy peludo, y al rasurarse ya se le puede ver la sombra de la barba pero lo curioso es que nunca se le ha caido el cabello.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190801/b75e7ec355c9144187ad9ce6da2de6b5.jpg

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Chocolate_Hound
06-02-2021, 09:43 PM
Dark hair and eyes are also a MENA influence... nothing specific to Amerindians lmao, with them it's more about eye shape and cheekbones.