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Ikol
07-27-2019, 12:33 AM
What do u guys think :confused:

https://imgur.com/PCBRauX

https://imgur.com/hgQx29M

Which Y-test should i do?

Dick
07-27-2019, 01:00 AM
Nice result congrats. Do 67 marker test

Ikol
07-27-2019, 01:08 AM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?260317-CommonSense-s-FTDNA-results-are-in!!

If we compare to commonsense results, whats the difference? My southeast europe is much higher than him, and his EE is higher than mine. My father thinks that we are serbs from montenegro from beginning who moved to bosnia long time ago,


whats 67 marker test? :)

Leto
07-27-2019, 08:00 AM
13% British makes no sense but that how FTDNA is.

dududud
07-27-2019, 08:30 AM
Go to gedmatch.

Ikol
07-27-2019, 09:24 AM
Look at my puntDNAL K13 Global Oracle results
# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 41.37
2 SW_Europe 34.07
3 West_Asia 12.64
4 SW_Asia 7.59
5 NE_Asia 1.26
6 East_Africa 1.21
7 Oceania 1.06
8 Americas 0.75
9 South_Africa 0.04
10 West_Africa 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4.07
2 Bosnian 4.12
3 Serbian 5.23
4 Moldavian 5.87
5 Hungarian 5.97
6 Slovene 6.34
7 German_South 7.21
8 French 7.56
9 Montenegrin 7.56
10 Belgian 7.65
11 Slovak 8.03
12 English 8.55
13 Romanian 8.89
14 Macedonian 9.43
15 Scottish 9.74
16 Orcadian 10.04
17 Bulgarian 10.2
18 Utahn_European 10.21
19 Irish 10.31
20 German_North 11.38

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.3% English + 13.7% Yemeni @ 2.1
2 83.8% Scottish + 16.2% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.13
3 83% Irish + 17% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.17
4 83.4% Orcadian + 16.6% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.21
5 81.2% Utahn_European + 18.8% Jordanian @ 2.22
6 80.8% Utahn_European + 19.2% Syrian @ 2.26
7 84.6% English + 15.4% Palestinian @ 2.27
8 84.3% Orcadian + 15.7% Yemeni @ 2.27
9 81.2% Utahn_European + 18.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.3
10 82.2% Orcadian + 17.8% Palestinian @ 2.33
11 81.9% Utahn_European + 18.1% Palestinian @ 2.34
12 81.2% Utahn_European + 18.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.34
13 81.8% Irish + 18.2% Palestinian @ 2.35
14 81.5% Utahn_European + 18.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.35
15 85.2% English + 14.8% Egyptian @ 2.36
16 85.7% English + 14.3% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.37
17 83.1% Utahn_European + 16.9% Samaritan_Jew @ 2.38
18 84% English + 16% Jordanian @ 2.39
19 82.9% Orcadian + 17.1% Egyptian @ 2.4
20 82.5% Irish + 17.5% Egyptian

Ikol
07-27-2019, 09:26 AM
Go to gedmatch.
Look at my puntDNAL K13 Global Oracle results
# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 41.37
2 SW_Europe 34.07
3 West_Asia 12.64
4 SW_Asia 7.59
5 NE_Asia 1.26
6 East_Africa 1.21
7 Oceania 1.06
8 Americas 0.75
9 South_Africa 0.04
10 West_Africa 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4.07
2 Bosnian 4.12
3 Serbian 5.23
4 Moldavian 5.87
5 Hungarian 5.97
6 Slovene 6.34
7 German_South 7.21
8 French 7.56
9 Montenegrin 7.56
10 Belgian 7.65
11 Slovak 8.03
12 English 8.55
13 Romanian 8.89
14 Macedonian 9.43
15 Scottish 9.74
16 Orcadian 10.04
17 Bulgarian 10.2
18 Utahn_European 10.21
19 Irish 10.31
20 German_North 11.38

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.3% English + 13.7% Yemeni @ 2.1
2 83.8% Scottish + 16.2% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.13
3 83% Irish + 17% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.17
4 83.4% Orcadian + 16.6% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.21
5 81.2% Utahn_European + 18.8% Jordanian @ 2.22
6 80.8% Utahn_European + 19.2% Syrian @ 2.26
7 84.6% English + 15.4% Palestinian @ 2.27
8 84.3% Orcadian + 15.7% Yemeni @ 2.27
9 81.2% Utahn_European + 18.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.3
10 82.2% Orcadian + 17.8% Palestinian @ 2.33
11 81.9% Utahn_European + 18.1% Palestinian @ 2.34
12 81.2% Utahn_European + 18.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.34
13 81.8% Irish + 18.2% Palestinian @ 2.35
14 81.5% Utahn_European + 18.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.35
15 85.2% English + 14.8% Egyptian @ 2.36
16 85.7% English + 14.3% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.37
17 83.1% Utahn_European + 16.9% Samaritan_Jew @ 2.38
18 84% English + 16% Jordanian @ 2.39
19 82.9% Orcadian + 17.1% Egyptian @ 2.4
20 82.5% Irish + 17.5% Egyptian

Sp_loa
07-27-2019, 10:24 AM
Look at my puntDNAL K13 Global Oracle results
# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 41.37
2 SW_Europe 34.07
3 West_Asia 12.64
4 SW_Asia 7.59
5 NE_Asia 1.26
6 East_Africa 1.21
7 Oceania 1.06
8 Americas 0.75
9 South_Africa 0.04
10 West_Africa 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4.07
2 Bosnian 4.12
3 Serbian 5.23
4 Moldavian 5.87
5 Hungarian 5.97
6 Slovene 6.34
7 German_South 7.21
8 French 7.56
9 Montenegrin 7.56
10 Belgian 7.65
11 Slovak 8.03
12 English 8.55
13 Romanian 8.89
14 Macedonian 9.43
15 Scottish 9.74
16 Orcadian 10.04
17 Bulgarian 10.2
18 Utahn_European 10.21
19 Irish 10.31
20 German_North 11.38

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.3% English + 13.7% Yemeni @ 2.1
2 83.8% Scottish + 16.2% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.13
3 83% Irish + 17% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.17
4 83.4% Orcadian + 16.6% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.21
5 81.2% Utahn_European + 18.8% Jordanian @ 2.22
6 80.8% Utahn_European + 19.2% Syrian @ 2.26
7 84.6% English + 15.4% Palestinian @ 2.27
8 84.3% Orcadian + 15.7% Yemeni @ 2.27
9 81.2% Utahn_European + 18.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.3
10 82.2% Orcadian + 17.8% Palestinian @ 2.33
11 81.9% Utahn_European + 18.1% Palestinian @ 2.34
12 81.2% Utahn_European + 18.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.34
13 81.8% Irish + 18.2% Palestinian @ 2.35
14 81.5% Utahn_European + 18.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.35
15 85.2% English + 14.8% Egyptian @ 2.36
16 85.7% English + 14.3% Egyptian_Copts @ 2.37
17 83.1% Utahn_European + 16.9% Samaritan_Jew @ 2.38
18 84% English + 16% Jordanian @ 2.39
19 82.9% Orcadian + 17.1% Egyptian @ 2.4
20 82.5% Irish + 17.5% Egyptian

Not every calculator is reliable.
Start with Eurogenes k15 and k13

Ikol
07-27-2019, 11:22 AM
..f

Ikol
07-27-2019, 11:25 AM
Not every calculator is reliable.
Start with Eurogenes k15 and k13


Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.39
2 North_Atlantic 27.26
3 West_Med 19.07
4 East_Med 13.43
5 West_Asian 7.34
6 Red_Sea 1.92
7 Amerindian 1.05
8 East_Asian 0.68
9 Oceanian 0.49
10 Northeast_African 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.3
2 Romanian 7.08
3 Moldavian 7.44
4 Hungarian 8.45
5 Croatian 8.75
6 Bulgarian 9.35
7 Austrian 10.72
8 East_German 12.04
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.33
10 South_Polish 15.83
11 West_German 15.9
12 Ukrainian 16.49
13 French 16.86
14 Greek_Thessaly 17.06
15 North_Italian 17.15
16 South_Dutch 17.21
17 Polish 19.25
18 Portuguese 19.39
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.44
20 Tuscan 19.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.6% Croatian + 33.4% North_Italian @ 1.91
2 69.6% Croatian + 30.4% Tuscan @ 2.14
3 54.3% Ukrainian + 45.7% Tuscan @ 2.19
4 55% North_Italian + 45% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.47
5 56.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.8% Tuscan @ 2.54
6 70.8% Moldavian + 29.2% North_Italian @ 2.56
7 54.5% North_Italian + 45.5% Southwest_Russian @ 2.56
8 75.6% Moldavian + 24.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.76
9 52.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 47.1% North_Italian @ 2.77
10 50.4% Polish + 49.6% Tuscan @ 2.77
11 51% Ukrainian + 49% North_Italian @ 2.8
12 76.7% Moldavian + 23.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.89
13 75.9% Moldavian + 24.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.91
14 75.1% Moldavian + 24.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.92
15 73.7% Moldavian + 26.3% Portuguese @ 2.92
16 58.4% Tuscan + 41.6% Lithuanian @ 2.97
17 76.9% Moldavian + 23.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.06
18 75.4% Moldavian + 24.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.07
19 52.8% Tuscan + 47.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.09
20 79% Moldavian + 21% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.19

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 18.47
2 Baltic 17.78
3 Atlantic 16.88
4 West_Med 15.25
5 Eastern_Euro 11.83
6 East_Med 10.45
7 West_Asian 6.32
8 Red_Sea 1.85
9 Amerindian 0.74
10 Oceanian 0.26
11 Northeast_African 0.16
12 Southeast_Asian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.79
2 Romanian 6.77
3 Moldavian 7.29
4 Croatian 7.87
5 Hungarian 8
6 Austrian 8.72
7 Bulgarian 8.84
8 East_German 11.43
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.9
10 South_Polish 14.35
11 Ukrainian 14.62
12 North_Italian 15.02
13 Greek_Thessaly 15.13
14 French 15.38
15 South_Dutch 15.99
16 Spanish_Galicia 16.25
17 Greek 16.42
18 West_German 16.52
19 Polish 16.79
20 Portuguese 16.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.8% Ukrainian + 46.2% Tuscan @ 2.13
2 68.2% Moldavian + 31.8% North_Italian @ 2.31
3 50.7% Ukrainian + 49.3% North_Italian @ 2.69
4 52% Ukrainian_Lviv + 48% North_Italian @ 2.75
5 55.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 44.9% Tuscan @ 2.82
6 74.5% Moldavian + 25.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.86
7 73.4% Moldavian + 26.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.87
8 66.8% Croatian + 33.2% North_Italian @ 2.89
9 72.8% Moldavian + 27.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.9
10 71.4% Moldavian + 28.6% Portuguese @ 2.91
11 69.6% Croatian + 30.4% Tuscan @ 2.97
12 74.4% Moldavian + 25.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.99
13 54.3% South_Polish + 45.7% Tuscan @ 3.06
14 72.8% Moldavian + 27.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.12
15 72% Moldavian + 28% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.13
16 70.8% Moldavian + 29.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.19
17 75.8% Moldavian + 24.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.22
18 55.4% North_Italian + 44.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.22
19 77% Moldavian + 23% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.24
20 83.3% Hungarian + 16.7% Sardinian @ 3.3

https://imgur.com/JHgk7FL

Ikol
07-29-2019, 07:09 AM
Bump

21993
07-29-2019, 07:15 AM
Try Gedmatch Oracle-4 because it gives more accurate results when calculating admixture.

Ikol
07-29-2019, 09:28 AM
Try Gedmatch Oracle-4 because it gives more accurate results when calculating admixture.

Which calc?

21993
07-29-2019, 01:30 PM
Which calc?

Eurogenes K13 seems to work well in my opinion.

Ikol
07-29-2019, 03:14 PM
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.39
2 North_Atlantic 27.26
3 West_Med 19.07
4 East_Med 13.43
5 West_Asian 7.34
6 Red_Sea 1.92
7 Amerindian 1.05


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Serbian @ 4.762399
2 Romanian @ 8.116928
3 Moldavian @ 8.381025
4 Hungarian @ 9.512589
5 Croatian @ 9.885800
6 Bulgarian @ 10.798119
7 Austrian @ 12.277550
8 East_German @ 13.817236
9 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 17.361147
10 South_Polish @ 17.870964
11 West_German @ 18.251204
12 Ukrainian @ 18.649956
13 French @ 19.304262
14 North_Italian @ 19.385113
15 Greek_Thessaly @ 19.598703
16 South_Dutch @ 19.782139
17 Polish @ 21.828951
18 Portuguese @ 21.957283
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 21.998713
20 Tuscan @ 22.236944

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Tuscan +50% Ukrainian @ 2.920062


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Estonian_Polish +25% Southwest_French @ 1.779321


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + Southwest_French @ 1.779321
2 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Russian_Smolensk + Southwest_French @ 1.892705
3 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.945063
4 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.969288
5 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.994690
6 Central_Greek + Lithuanian + Moldavian + Southwest_French @ 2.000721
7 South_Italian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.009535
8 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Southwest_French + Southwest_Russian @ 2.022824
9 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Estonian_Polish + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.032911
10 South_Italian + Southwest_French + Southwest_Russian + Ukrainian @ 2.044116
11 Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + Southwest_French @ 2.047614
12 Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian + Southwest_French + Southwest_Russian @ 2.048924
13 Central_Greek + Estonian_Polish + Spanish_Andalucia + Ukrainian @ 2.056952
14 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Southwest_French @ 2.066051
15 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.082481
16 Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.088494
17 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Southwest_French @ 2.088866
18 East_Sicilian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.109274
19 Greek_Thessaly + Lithuanian + Moldavian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.111406
20 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.112700