View Full Version : My Armenian Wife's Gedmatch Results
oszkar07
07-28-2019, 01:05 AM
She is originally from the Armenian diaspora of Iran , but i think her results look pretty standard Armenian.
K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 38.45
2 East_Med 35.73
3 West_Med 11.56
4 Red_Sea 4.59
5 Baltic 3.96
6 South_Asian 3.17
7 North_Atlantic 2.48
8 East_Asian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian 3.32
2 Georgian_Jewish 4.39
3 Assyrian 7.11
4 Kurdish 8.67
5 Azeri 10.08
6 Turkish 10.7
7 Kurdish_Jewish 11.03
8 Iranian 11.22
9 Iranian_Jewish 11.31
10 Lebanese_Muslim 15.53
11 Georgian 16.97
12 Syrian 17.67
13 Abhkasian 17.98
14 Cyprian 18.61
15 Kumyk 18.63
16 Lebanese_Druze 19.4
17 Adygei 20.09
18 Lebanese_Christian 20.3
19 Balkar 21.73
20 Samaritan 21.98
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.6% Assyrian + 28.4% Georgian @ 2.45
2 72.8% Assyrian + 27.2% Abhkasian @ 2.47
3 51.9% Abhkasian + 48.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.67
4 97% Armenian + 3% Erzya @ 2.74
5 65.1% Armenian + 34.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.77
6 96.9% Armenian + 3.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.78
7 97.3% Armenian + 2.7% Lithuanian @ 2.78
8 96.9% Armenian + 3.1% Southwest_Russian @ 2.78
9 97.2% Armenian + 2.8% Belorussian @ 2.81
10 97.2% Armenian + 2.8% Estonian_Polish @ 2.82
11 97.2% Armenian + 2.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.83
12 97.2% Armenian + 2.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.83
13 97.2% Armenian + 2.8% Chuvash @ 2.86
14 97.5% Armenian + 2.5% East_Finnish @ 2.86
15 97.5% Armenian + 2.5% Estonian @ 2.86
16 97.6% Armenian + 2.4% Finnish @ 2.9
17 97.2% Armenian + 2.8% Ukrainian @ 2.9
18 97.4% Armenian + 2.6% Polish @ 2.9
19 97.4% Armenian + 2.6% Mari @ 2.91
20 97.3% Armenian + 2.7% South_Polish @ 2.93
Eurogenes JTest
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 34.46
2 WEST_ASIAN 34.41
3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 7.61
4 WEST_MED 6.97
5 ASHKENAZI 6.56
6 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 4.03
7 SOUTH_ASIAN 2.78
8 ATLANTIC 1.69
9 SOUTH_BALTIC 1.48
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian 3.85
2 Assyrian 8.87
3 TR 9.24
4 Kurdish 9.99
5 IR 12.36
6 Mandean 12.66
7 GE 15.69
8 IQ 20.7
9 GR 22.28
10 Lezgin 22.86
11 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 24.25
12 Druze 24.68
13 Samaritan 27.04
14 Tuscan 33.58
15 AJ 33.99
16 Brahui 34.23
17 Balochi 35.02
18 RO 36.09
19 North_Italian 37.7
20 Serbian 37.9
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.9% Armenian + 14.1% GE @ 2.9
2 90.6% Armenian + 9.4% Lezgin @ 3.06
3 64.9% Assyrian + 35.1% GE @ 3.1
4 88.8% Armenian + 11.2% IR @ 3.55
5 87.1% Armenian + 12.9% Kurdish @ 3.6
6 61.5% GE + 38.5% Druze @ 3.63
7 97.7% Armenian + 2.3% Kalash @ 3.7
8 98.1% Armenian + 1.9% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.71
9 98.2% Armenian + 1.8% North_Swedish @ 3.72
10 98.2% Armenian + 1.8% NO @ 3.72
11 97.3% Armenian + 2.7% Balochi @ 3.73
12 97.2% Armenian + 2.8% Brahui @ 3.73
13 98.2% Armenian + 1.8% Scottish @ 3.73
14 98.4% Armenian + 1.6% EE @ 3.74
15 98.3% Armenian + 1.7% DK @ 3.74
16 98.3% Armenian + 1.7% Orcadian @ 3.74
17 98.3% Armenian + 1.7% IE @ 3.75
18 98.3% Armenian + 1.7% English @ 3.75
19 90.5% Armenian + 9.5% TR @ 3.75
20 98.5% Armenian + 1.5% South_Finnis
Dodecad K12b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 51.99
2 Gedrosia 16.34
3 Southwest_Asian 13.61
4 Atlantic_Med 10.11
5 North_European 6.22
6 South_Asian 1.38
7 Northwest_African 0.35
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 4.72
2 Armenian (Dodecad) 4.76
3 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 6.22
4 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 6.83
5 Assyrian (Dodecad) 7.34
6 Armenians (Behar) 8.02
7 Turks (Behar) 8.09
8 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 8.81
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 8.96
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 11.29
11 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 12.67
12 Druze (HGDP) 12.96
13 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 14.4
14 Cypriots (Behar) 14.65
15 Lebanese (Behar) 15.4
16 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.92
17 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.33
18 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 18.46
19 Syrians (Behar) 19.28
20 Iranians (Behar) 19.75
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.8% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 10.2% Romanians (Behar) @ 1.49
2 89.4% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 10.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 1.56
3 92.5% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 7.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.57
4 93.1% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 6.9% German (Dodecad) @ 1.62
5 94% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 1.63
6 94.1% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 5.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 1.65
7 89.7% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 10.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.66
8 93.5% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 6.5% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.77
9 94.7% Armenian (Dodecad) + 5.3% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.79
10 93.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 6.7% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.81
11 93.8% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 6.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 1.81
12 93.8% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 6.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.81
13 94.8% Armenian (Dodecad) + 5.2% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 1.82
14 94% Armenian (Dodecad) + 6% Russian (HGDP) @ 1.83
15 93.7% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 6.3% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.85
16 93.7% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 6.3% English (Dodecad) @ 1.85
17 93.9% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 6.1% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.85
18 93.7% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 6.3% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.86
19 93.8% Armenian (Dodecad) + 6.2% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.87
20 93.9% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 6.1% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.88
Luke35
07-28-2019, 01:15 AM
Great man, is she excited about her results? What was this, AncestryDNA?
I see the Dodecad K12b calculator can model her with a little Hungarian admix :)
oszkar07
07-28-2019, 01:38 AM
Great man, is she excited about her results? What was this, AncestryDNA?
I see the Dodecad K12b calculator can model her with a little Hungarian admix :)
Thanks Bro,
Yeh just got her Ancestry results back today.
She is excited and also happy that she gets mostly Armenian , Armenians have been in Iran for up to 500 years so based on her results she doesnt seem to admixed mostly Armenian ... is cool she gets some Hungarian on the Dodecad K12B
92.5% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 7.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.57
oszkar07
07-28-2019, 02:12 AM
MDLP K16
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 56.26
2 Neolithic 16.11
3 Steppe 12.61
4 Indian 7.37
5 NearEast 6.34
6 NorthAfrican 1.03
7 NorthEastEuropean 0.27
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) 4.56
2 Georgian (Laz) 4.57
3 Armenian (Armenia) 5.25
4 Armenian (Lebanon) 5.27
5 Armenian (Vanatur_Hrazdan) 5.41
6 Armenian (Erzrum) 5.49
7 Armenian (Yerevan) 5.77
8 Adjar (Adjaria) 6.41
9 Georgian (Georgia) 6.51
10 Armenian (Martuni) 6.52
11 Armenian (Dprabak) 6.53
12 Assyrian (Armenia) 6.57
13 Armenian (Chambarak) 6.64
14 Armenian (Armenia) 6.66
15 Armenian (Armenia) 6.69
16 Georgian (Kakheti) 6.89
17 Turk (Kayseri) 6.95
18 Armenian (Vardnis) 6.98
19 Armenian (Yegvard) 6.99
20 Armenian (Gavar) 7.57
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.9% Georgian (Laz) + 7.1% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 2.39
2 75.4% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 24.6% Cypriot (Cyprus) @ 2.74
3 94.4% Georgian (Laz) + 5.6% Basque (France) @ 2.76
4 91.1% Armenian (Armenia) + 8.9% Basque (France) @ 2.85
5 93.9% Georgian (Laz) + 6.1% French (SouthFrance) @ 2.89
6 92.8% Georgian (Laz) + 7.2% Spanish (Andalucia) @ 3.05
7 91.1% Georgian (Laz) + 8.9% Italian (Bergamo) @ 3.07
8 90.3% Armenian (Armenia) + 9.7% French (SouthFrance) @ 3.12
9 86.8% Georgian (Laz) + 13.2% Sicilian (Sicily) @ 3.13
10 85% Georgian (Laz) + 15% Greek (Athens) @ 3.16
11 90.8% Georgian (Laz) + 9.2% Corsican (Corsica) @ 3.18
12 56.5% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 43.5% Armenian (Lebanon) @ 3.26
13 92.8% Georgian (Laz) + 7.2% Spanish (Spain) @ 3.28
14 86.1% Georgian (Laz) + 13.9% Jew (Italian) @ 3.3
15 84.1% Georgian (Laz) + 15.9% Greek (Greece) @ 3.31
16 89.2% Armenian (Armenia) + 10.8% Spanish (Aragon) @ 3.34
17 87.7% Georgian (Laz) + 12.3% Maltese (Malta) @ 3.35
18 88.8% Georgian (Laz) + 11.2% Greek (Greece) @ 3.36
19 87% Georgian (Laz) + 13% Jew (Algeria) @ 3.37
20 89.9% Armenian (Armenia) + 10.1% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 3.38
Eurogenes K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 39.58
2 East_Med 33.84
3 West_Med 7.2
4 Red_Sea 4.89
5 Atlantic 4.86
6 South_Asian 3.18
7 Baltic 2.9
8 North_Sea 1.83
9 Eastern_Euro 1.73
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian 4.29
2 Georgian_Jewish 5.89
3 Kurdish 8.49
4 Assyrian 9.74
5 Azeri 10.84
6 Turkish 11.08
7 Iranian 11.41
8 Iranian_Jewish 14.38
9 Kurdish_Jewish 14.81
10 Lebanese_Muslim 17.02
11 Georgian 17.59
12 Kumyk 18.24
13 Syrian 19.4
14 Cyprian 20.08
15 Abhkasian 20.64
16 Adygei 20.65
17 Lebanese_Christian 21.97
18 Ossetian 22.45
19 Balkar 22.58
20 Turkmen 22.62
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.5% Abhkasian + 47.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.67
2 68.6% Assyrian + 31.4% Abhkasian @ 2.73
3 65.1% Assyrian + 34.9% Georgian @ 2.83
4 56.5% Georgian + 43.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.15
5 80.5% Georgian_Jewish + 19.5% Abhkasian @ 3.22
6 77.9% Georgian_Jewish + 22.1% Georgian @ 3.25
7 86.5% Armenian + 13.5% Georgian @ 3.34
8 88.3% Armenian + 11.7% Abhkasian @ 3.35
9 89.8% Armenian + 10.2% North_Ossetian @ 3.38
10 88.8% Armenian + 11.2% Adygei @ 3.43
11 51.6% Abhkasian + 48.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.51
12 55.3% Iranian_Jewish + 44.7% Georgian @ 3.51
13 54.5% Kurdish_Jewish + 45.5% Georgian @ 3.57
14 90.7% Armenian + 9.3% Kabardin @ 3.62
15 90.9% Armenian + 9.1% Balkar @ 3.66
16 90.9% Armenian + 9.1% Ossetian @ 3.68
17 59.4% Iranian_Jewish + 40.6% Abhkasian @ 3.72
18 83.7% Georgian_Jewish + 16.3% North_Ossetian @ 3.74
19 92.3% Armenian + 7.7% Chechen @ 3.75
20 55.7% Georgian + 44.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.76
Punt K13 Global
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 43.68
2 SW_Europe 27.46
3 SW_Asia 17.76
4 NE_Europe 6.86
5 South_Asia 3.06
6 East_Africa 0.37
7 Americas 0.31
8 SE_Asia 0.27
9 NE_Asia 0.24
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian 3.84
2 Assyrian 5.21
3 Azerbaijan_Azeri 6.68
4 Turkish_Trabzon 7.17
5 Kurdish 7.18
6 Abkhasian 8.21
7 Turkish_Kayseri 8.51
8 Lebanese_Druze 9.64
9 Lebanese_Muslim 10.02
10 Iranian 10.44
11 Turkish 10.67
12 Syrian 11
13 Lebanese_Christian 11.59
14 Ossetian 13.03
15 Dagestan_Azeri 13.16
16 Cypriot 13.46
17 Turkish_Aydin 15.06
18 Adygei 15.15
19 Balkar 15.94
20 Jordanian 16.36
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.4% Armenian + 11.6% Tadjik @ 1.27
2 89.1% Armenian + 10.9% Afghan_Pashtun @ 1.43
3 89.8% Armenian + 10.2% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 1.55
4 65% Armenian + 35% Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 1.59
5 91.8% Armenian + 8.2% Burusho @ 1.66
6 89.2% Armenian + 10.8% Romani @ 1.69
7 92.7% Armenian + 7.3% Kashmir_Pandit @ 1.74
8 90.1% Armenian + 9.9% Pathan @ 1.78
9 84.9% Armenian + 15.1% Kumyk @ 1.92
10 79.7% Armenian + 20.3% Dagestan_Azeri @ 1.93
11 90.4% Armenian + 9.6% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 1.95
12 92.9% Armenian + 7.1% Punjabi @ 1.96
13 68.1% Armenian + 31.9% Kurdish @ 2.09
14 94.5% Armenian + 5.5% Bengali @ 2.12
15 92% Armenian + 8% Sindhi @ 2.12
16 62.5% Assyrian + 37.5% Abkhasian @ 2.12
17 83.2% Armenian + 16.8% Balkar @ 2.13
18 94.3% Armenian + 5.7% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 2.15
19 90.5% Armenian + 9.5% Balochi @ 2.2
20 87% Armenian + 13% Chechen @ 2.22
FinalFlash
07-28-2019, 02:14 AM
MDLP K16
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 56.26
2 Neolithic 16.11
3 Steppe 12.61
4 Indian 7.37
5 NearEast 6.34
6 NorthAfrican 1.03
7 NorthEastEuropean 0.27
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) 4.56
2 Georgian (Laz) 4.57
3 Armenian (Armenia) 5.25
4 Armenian (Lebanon) 5.27
5 Armenian (Vanatur_Hrazdan) 5.41
6 Armenian (Erzrum) 5.49
7 Armenian (Yerevan) 5.77
8 Adjar (Adjaria) 6.41
9 Georgian (Georgia) 6.51
10 Armenian (Martuni) 6.52
11 Armenian (Dprabak) 6.53
12 Assyrian (Armenia) 6.57
13 Armenian (Chambarak) 6.64
14 Armenian (Armenia) 6.66
15 Armenian (Armenia) 6.69
16 Georgian (Kakheti) 6.89
17 Turk (Kayseri) 6.95
18 Armenian (Vardnis) 6.98
19 Armenian (Yegvard) 6.99
20 Armenian (Gavar) 7.57
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.9% Georgian (Laz) + 7.1% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 2.39
2 75.4% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 24.6% Cypriot (Cyprus) @ 2.74
3 94.4% Georgian (Laz) + 5.6% Basque (France) @ 2.76
4 91.1% Armenian (Armenia) + 8.9% Basque (France) @ 2.85
5 93.9% Georgian (Laz) + 6.1% French (SouthFrance) @ 2.89
6 92.8% Georgian (Laz) + 7.2% Spanish (Andalucia) @ 3.05
7 91.1% Georgian (Laz) + 8.9% Italian (Bergamo) @ 3.07
8 90.3% Armenian (Armenia) + 9.7% French (SouthFrance) @ 3.12
9 86.8% Georgian (Laz) + 13.2% Sicilian (Sicily) @ 3.13
10 85% Georgian (Laz) + 15% Greek (Athens) @ 3.16
11 90.8% Georgian (Laz) + 9.2% Corsican (Corsica) @ 3.18
12 56.5% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) + 43.5% Armenian (Lebanon) @ 3.26
13 92.8% Georgian (Laz) + 7.2% Spanish (Spain) @ 3.28
14 86.1% Georgian (Laz) + 13.9% Jew (Italian) @ 3.3
15 84.1% Georgian (Laz) + 15.9% Greek (Greece) @ 3.31
16 89.2% Armenian (Armenia) + 10.8% Spanish (Aragon) @ 3.34
17 87.7% Georgian (Laz) + 12.3% Maltese (Malta) @ 3.35
18 88.8% Georgian (Laz) + 11.2% Greek (Greece) @ 3.36
19 87% Georgian (Laz) + 13% Jew (Algeria) @ 3.37
20 89.9% Armenian (Armenia) + 10.1% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 3.38
Eurogenes K15
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 39.58
2 East_Med 33.84
3 West_Med 7.2
4 Red_Sea 4.89
5 Atlantic 4.86
6 South_Asian 3.18
7 Baltic 2.9
8 North_Sea 1.83
9 Eastern_Euro 1.73
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian 4.29
2 Georgian_Jewish 5.89
3 Kurdish 8.49
4 Assyrian 9.74
5 Azeri 10.84
6 Turkish 11.08
7 Iranian 11.41
8 Iranian_Jewish 14.38
9 Kurdish_Jewish 14.81
10 Lebanese_Muslim 17.02
11 Georgian 17.59
12 Kumyk 18.24
13 Syrian 19.4
14 Cyprian 20.08
15 Abhkasian 20.64
16 Adygei 20.65
17 Lebanese_Christian 21.97
18 Ossetian 22.45
19 Balkar 22.58
20 Turkmen 22.62
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.5% Abhkasian + 47.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.67
2 68.6% Assyrian + 31.4% Abhkasian @ 2.73
3 65.1% Assyrian + 34.9% Georgian @ 2.83
4 56.5% Georgian + 43.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.15
5 80.5% Georgian_Jewish + 19.5% Abhkasian @ 3.22
6 77.9% Georgian_Jewish + 22.1% Georgian @ 3.25
7 86.5% Armenian + 13.5% Georgian @ 3.34
8 88.3% Armenian + 11.7% Abhkasian @ 3.35
9 89.8% Armenian + 10.2% North_Ossetian @ 3.38
10 88.8% Armenian + 11.2% Adygei @ 3.43
11 51.6% Abhkasian + 48.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.51
12 55.3% Iranian_Jewish + 44.7% Georgian @ 3.51
13 54.5% Kurdish_Jewish + 45.5% Georgian @ 3.57
14 90.7% Armenian + 9.3% Kabardin @ 3.62
15 90.9% Armenian + 9.1% Balkar @ 3.66
16 90.9% Armenian + 9.1% Ossetian @ 3.68
17 59.4% Iranian_Jewish + 40.6% Abhkasian @ 3.72
18 83.7% Georgian_Jewish + 16.3% North_Ossetian @ 3.74
19 92.3% Armenian + 7.7% Chechen @ 3.75
20 55.7% Georgian + 44.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.76
Punt K13 Global
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 43.68
2 SW_Europe 27.46
3 SW_Asia 17.76
4 NE_Europe 6.86
5 South_Asia 3.06
6 East_Africa 0.37
7 Americas 0.31
8 SE_Asia 0.27
9 NE_Asia 0.24
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian 3.84
2 Assyrian 5.21
3 Azerbaijan_Azeri 6.68
4 Turkish_Trabzon 7.17
5 Kurdish 7.18
6 Abkhasian 8.21
7 Turkish_Kayseri 8.51
8 Lebanese_Druze 9.64
9 Lebanese_Muslim 10.02
10 Iranian 10.44
11 Turkish 10.67
12 Syrian 11
13 Lebanese_Christian 11.59
14 Ossetian 13.03
15 Dagestan_Azeri 13.16
16 Cypriot 13.46
17 Turkish_Aydin 15.06
18 Adygei 15.15
19 Balkar 15.94
20 Jordanian 16.36
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.4% Armenian + 11.6% Tadjik @ 1.27
2 89.1% Armenian + 10.9% Afghan_Pashtun @ 1.43
3 89.8% Armenian + 10.2% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 1.55
4 65% Armenian + 35% Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 1.59
5 91.8% Armenian + 8.2% Burusho @ 1.66
6 89.2% Armenian + 10.8% Romani @ 1.69
7 92.7% Armenian + 7.3% Kashmir_Pandit @ 1.74
8 90.1% Armenian + 9.9% Pathan @ 1.78
9 84.9% Armenian + 15.1% Kumyk @ 1.92
10 79.7% Armenian + 20.3% Dagestan_Azeri @ 1.93
11 90.4% Armenian + 9.6% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 1.95
12 92.9% Armenian + 7.1% Punjabi @ 1.96
13 68.1% Armenian + 31.9% Kurdish @ 2.09
14 94.5% Armenian + 5.5% Bengali @ 2.12
15 92% Armenian + 8% Sindhi @ 2.12
16 62.5% Assyrian + 37.5% Abkhasian @ 2.12
17 83.2% Armenian + 16.8% Balkar @ 2.13
18 94.3% Armenian + 5.7% Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin @ 2.15
19 90.5% Armenian + 9.5% Balochi @ 2.2
20 87% Armenian + 13% Chechen @ 2.22
I'll post her results on this updated K13 and K15 calc soon.
harutsafaryan07
07-28-2019, 04:50 AM
from which city of Iran her ancestors ?
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Cool. I think she has a little bit more Baltic than average. The average is less 1%.
FinalFlash
07-28-2019, 09:45 AM
Cool. I think she has a little bit more Baltic than average. The average is less 1%.
On K13? The average(real average) is 3% for Easterners. A cunt hair less for Westerners.
I'm talking about averages that I've personally compiled using more than a 100 kits.
On K13? The average(real average) is 3% for Easterners. A cunt hair less for Westerners.
I'm talking about averages that I've personally compiled using more than a 100 kits.
I only know the Davidski (Davidyan xD) average from 2013. Post your custom average please.
oszkar07
07-28-2019, 02:00 PM
from which city of Iran her ancestors ?
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Saveh
Alenka
07-28-2019, 02:05 PM
I see the Dodecad K12b calculator can model her with a little Hungarian admix :)
Trace amounts of oszkar07 in her saliva sample.
xD
oszkar07
07-28-2019, 02:05 PM
Eurogenes K36
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 6.42 Pct
Armenian 14.35 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 15.76 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 14.56 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 10.11 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 21.62 Pct
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 2.38 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 13.92 Pct
West_Med 0.84 Pct
oszkar07
07-28-2019, 02:13 PM
Harappa World
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 53.73
2 Baloch 16.55
3 SW-Asian 12.95
4 Mediterranean 9.1
5 NE-Euro 5.68
6 S-Indian 1.64
7 SE-Asian 0.23
8 Beringian 0.12
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 armenian (yunusbayev) 3.91
2 armenian (behar) 4.26
3 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 5.62
4 assyrian (harappa) 7.09
5 georgia-jew (behar) 7.11
6 armenian (harappa) 7.71
7 turk (behar) 8.7
8 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 9.39
9 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 9.54
10 azeri (harappa) 9.95
11 turkish (harappa) 10.41
12 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 10.74
13 iranian-jew (behar) 10.94
14 lebanese-druze (haber) 11.25
15 iraq-jew (behar) 11.97
16 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 12
17 kurd (yunusbayev) 12.2
18 georgian (harappa) 12.5
19 lebanese-muslim (haber) 12.93
20 lebanese-christian (haber) 13.24
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.9% armenian (yunusbayev) + 6.1% slovenian (xing) @ 1.35
2 91.8% armenian (yunusbayev) + 8.2% romanian-a (behar) @ 1.37
3 93.8% armenian (yunusbayev) + 6.2% hungarian (behar) @ 1.39
4 94.5% armenian (yunusbayev) + 5.5% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 1.42
5 91.6% armenian (yunusbayev) + 8.4% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 1.43
6 94.7% armenian (yunusbayev) + 5.3% n-european (xing) @ 1.45
7 94.9% armenian (yunusbayev) + 5.1% belorussian (behar) @ 1.46
8 94.8% armenian (yunusbayev) + 5.2% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 1.51
9 95.5% armenian (yunusbayev) + 4.5% lithuanian (behar) @ 1.53
10 94.9% armenian (yunusbayev) + 5.1% russian (behar) @ 1.54
11 94.7% armenian (yunusbayev) + 5.3% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 1.55
12 94.8% armenian (yunusbayev) + 5.2% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 1.56
13 95% armenian (yunusbayev) + 5% orcadian (hgdp) @ 1.57
14 94.9% armenian (yunusbayev) + 5.1% british (1000genomes) @ 1.58
15 81.2% armenian (behar) + 18.8% syrian (behar) @ 1.61
16 95.9% armenian (yunusbayev) + 4.1% finnish (1000genomes) @ 1.61
17 94.3% armenian (yunusbayev) + 5.7% french (hgdp) @ 1.68
18 81.4% armenian (behar) + 18.6% palestinian (harappa) @ 1.69
19 88.7% armenian (yunusbayev) + 11.3% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 1.7
20 81% armenian (behar) + 19% lebanese (behar) @ 1.77
oszkar07
07-28-2019, 02:43 PM
My Armenian Wife's MyTrueAncestry
Closest Ancient Populations
Ostrogoth + Hittite (17.95)
Hellenic Roman + Hittite (20.85)
Hittite (21.71)
Ostrogoth (22.01)
Hellenic Roman (22.57)
Ancient Samples
1. Iron Age Kurdistan (900 BC) (10.05) - F38 (Click for more info)
2. Medieval Iran (1450 AD) (11.68) - I1955 (Click for more info)
3. Copper Age Iran (3800 BC) (13.71) - I1665 (Click for more info)
4. Copper Age Iran (4500 BC) (16.31) - I1661 (Click for more info)
5. Copper Age Iran (3900 BC) (16.55) - I1674 (Click for more info)
6. Armenia Bronze Age (3200 BC) (16.81) - I658 (Click for more info)
7. Copper Age Armenia (4000 BC) (19.14) - I1631 (Click for more info)
8. Crusader Knight Mix / Lebanon (1250 AD) (19.46) - SI-45 (Click for more info)
9. Hittite Anatolia (1675 BC) (21.71) - MA2200 (Click for more info)
10. Ostrogoth Hellenic Crimea (300 AD) (22.01) - Ker1 (Click for more info)
11. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (22.57) - CL30 (Click for more info)
12. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) (23.56) - CL38 (Click for more info)
13. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) (23.88) - I0184 (Click for more info)
14. Bronze Age Armenia (1500 BC) (24.08) - Rise397 (Click for more info)
15. Alan (250 AD) (24.33) - DA162 (Click for more info)
16. Crusader Knight Armenian / Lebanon (1250 AD) (24.39) - SI-44 (Click for more info)
17. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) (25.31) - CL25 (Click for more info)
18. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (26.08) - QED-2 (Click for more info)
19. Armenia Bronze Age (1450 BC) (26.34) - I1656 (Click for more info)
20. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) (26.39) - MA2198 (Click for more info)
21. Samaritan (2000 AD) (26.63) - Unknown (Click for more info)
22. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (26.97) - QED-7 (Click for more info)
23. Canaanite (1600 BC) (27.85) - ERS1790730 (Click for more info)
24. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (29.16) - QED-9 (Click for more info)
25. Canaanite (1600 BC) (29.44) - ERS1790731 (Click for more info)
26. Ottoman (1500 AD) (30.13) - MA2196 (Click for more info)
27. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (30.39) - MA2206 (Click for more info)
28. Ahskelon Canaanite (1200 BC) (30.74) - ASH008_ASH_IA2 (Click for more info)
29. Alan (485 AD) (30.81) - DA243 (Click for more info)
30. Canaanite (1650 BC) (31.84) - ERS1790733 (Click for more info)
31. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (32.18) - MA2208 (Click for more info)
32. Ashkelon Canaanite (1600 BC) (32.28) - ASH034_ASH_LBA (Click for more info)
33. Neolothic Iran (8000 BC) (32.98) - I1290 (Click for more info)
34. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (33.54) - I9006 (Click for more info)
35. Canaanite (1600 BC) (34.41) - ERS1790729 (Click for more info)
36. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (34.73) - CL121 (Click for more info)
37. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (34.87) - SZ40 (Click for more info)
38. Egyptian Gladiator York (250 AD) (36.18) - 3DRIF-26 (Click for more info)
39. Canaanite (1600 BC) (36.37) - ERS1790732 (Click for more info)
40. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (36.48) - I9010 (Click for more info)
41. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) (37.32) - SI-41 (Click for more info)
42. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (37.34) - I9033 (Click for more info)
43. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (37.37) - I9041 (Click for more info)
44. Minoan (2000 BC) (38.35) - I0070 (Click for more info)
45. Minoan (2000 BC) (38.95) - I9129 (Click for more info)
46. Cimmerian Odessa (900 BC) (39.19) - cim358 (Click for more info)
47. Minoan (2000 BC) (39.2) - I9005 (Click for more info)
48. Roman Era Greco Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (39.23) - QED-12 (Click for more info)
49. Ahskelon Canaanite (1570 BC) (39.24) - ASH029_ASH_LBA (Click for more info)
50. Minoan (2000 BC) (39.24) - I0071 (Click for more info)
51. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) (39.4) - SI-53 (Click for more info)
52. Central Roman (590 AD) (39.49) - SZ32 (Click for more info)
53. Ashkelon Canaanite/Minoan (1700 BC) (39.61) - ASH033_ASH_LBA (Click for more info)
54. Minoan (2000 BC) (40.27) - I0074 (Click for more info)
55. Central Roman (590 AD) (40.39) - SZ43 (Click for more info)
56. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (40.49) - SZ19 (Click for more info)
57. Central Roman (590 AD) (40.73) - SZ36 (Click for more info)
58. Ashkelon Philistine (1150 BC) (40.74) - ASH2-3_ASH_IA1 (Click for more info)
59. Crusader Knight Georgian / Lebanon (1250 AD) (40.9) - SI-38 (Click for more info)
60. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) (41.23) - NS3b (Click for more info)
Modern Populations
1. Armenian (4.818)
2. Georgian_Jewish (6.639)
3. Kurdish (9.596)
4. Assyrian (11.26)
5. Azeri (12.25)
6. Turkish (12.58)
7. Iranian (12.81)
8. Iranian_Jewish (16.64)
Is she 100% Turkey and the Caucasus on Ancestry?
oszkar07
07-28-2019, 03:10 PM
Is she 100% Turkey and the Caucasus on Ancestry?
On Ancestry she is
74% Turkey and the Caucasus
18% Iran/Persia
8% MiddleEast
Luke35
07-28-2019, 03:14 PM
Trace amounts of oszkar07 in her saliva sample.
xD
Yeah, that's what I figured too :)
94.5% armenian (yunusbayev) + 5.5% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 1.42
Obviously she is a little bit more European-shifted.
K13
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 38.45
2 East_Med 35.73
3 West_Med 11.56
4 Red_Sea 4.59
5 Baltic 3.96
6 South_Asian 3.17
7 North_Atlantic 2.48
8 East_Asian 0.06
Armenian reference
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 38.87
2 East_Med 34.79
3 West_Med 13.02
4 Red_Sea 5.23
5 South_Asian 3.41
6 North_Atlantic 2.79
7 Baltic 0.85
8 Oceanian 0.44
9 East_Asian 0.43
10 Amerindian 0.05
11 Sub-Saharan 0.05
12 Northeast_African 0.04
13 Siberian 0.03
FinalFlash
11-15-2019, 08:19 AM
I only know the Davidski (Davidyan xD) average from 2013. Post your custom average please.
Armenian_East custom average. I've compiled around 60 kits for this one.
North Sea - 2.71
Atlantic - 4.19
Baltic - 2.07
E. Euro - 3.12
W. Med - 6.86
W. Asian - 38.46
E. Med - 33.67
Red Sea - 5.49
S. Asian - 2.99
Armenian_West. I used around 20 kits for this one
North Sea - 2.3
Atlantic - 4.06
Baltic - 1.98
E. Euro - 2.29
W. Med - 8.91
W. Asian - 36.25
E. Med - 35.69
Red Sea - 5.69
S. Asian - 2.39
Armenian_East custom oracle
[1,] "Armenian_East" "0"
[2,] "Armenian_West" "3.8043"
[3,] "Turk_East" "4.2229"
[4,] "Greek_Trabzon" "5.0788"
[5,] "Turkish_Trabzon" "7.1033"
[6,] "Kurd_Armenia" "8.3238"
[7,] "Kurd" "8.5509"
[8,] "Georgian_Jewish" "8.778"
[9,] "Georgian_Laz" "9.1589"
[10,] "Azerbaijani" "9.9119"
[11,] "Assyrian" "10.9748"
[12,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "10.9751"
[13,] "Iranian_Lur" "10.9865"
[14,] "Turk_Meskhetian" "11.0845"
[15,] "Iranian_Mazandarani" "13.2337"
[16,] "Turkish_Adana" "13.9202"
[17,] "Iranian_Persian" "14.4605"
[18,] "Azeri_Dagestan" "16.8931"
[19,] "Kurdish_Jew" "16.9748"
[20,] "Lebanese_Muslim" "18.5189"
Armenian_East mixedmode
[1,] "Armenian_East" "0"
[2,] "80.7% Turk_East + 19.3% Kurdish_Jew" "1.1681"
[3,] "73% Turk_East + 27% Assyrian" "1.2575"
[4,] "68.4% Turk_East + 31.6% Georgian_Jewish" "1.3112"
[5,] "53.1% Armenian_West + 46.9% Turk_East" "1.5958"
[6,] "86.9% Turk_East + 13.1% Iraqi_Jew" "1.6545"
[7,] "83.4% Turk_East + 16.6% Iranian_Jew" "1.6857"
[8,] "70.1% Turk_Meskhetian + 29.9% Druze" "1.7071"
[9,] "86.3% Armenian_West + 13.7% Georgian" "1.7911"
[10,] "12.1% Adygei + 87.9% Armenian_West" "1.8118"
[11,] "87.1% Turk_East + 12.9% Druze" "1.8136"
[12,] "76.6% Armenian_West + 23.4% Turk_Meskhetian" "1.8355"
[13,] "49.7% Turk_Meskhetian + 50.3% Assyrian" "1.8478"
[14,] "89.7% Armenian_West + 10.3% Chechen" "1.8538"
[15,] "11.7% Abhkasian + 88.3% Armenian_West" "1.8766"
[16,] "83.6% Armenian_West + 16.4% Azeri_Dagestan" "1.9199"
[17,] "48.9% Georgian_Laz + 51.1% Georgian_Jewish" "1.9206"
[18,] "44% Turk_Meskhetian + 56% Georgian_Jewish" "1.9319"
[19,] "89.1% Armenian_West + 10.9% Lezgin" "1.9494"
[20,] "89% Armenian_West + 11% Ossetian" "1.9575"
Armenian_West oracle
[1,] "Armenian_West" "0"
[2,] "Armenian_East" "3.8043"
[3,] "Greek_Trabzon" "3.8226"
[4,] "Georgian_Jewish" "6.5036"
[5,] "Turk_East" "7.3631"
[6,] "Assyrian" "8.0883"
[7,] "Turkish_Trabzon" "8.5406"
[8,] "Kurd_Armenia" "9.9347"
[9,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "10.5096"
[10,] "Kurd" "10.9183"
[11,] "Azerbaijani" "11.5051"
[12,] "Georgian_Laz" "11.6612"
[13,] "Iranian_Lur" "12.371"
[14,] "Turkish_Adana" "13.0802"
[15,] "Turk_Meskhetian" "14.2637"
[16,] "Kurdish_Jew" "14.3166"
[17,] "Iranian_Mazandarani" "15.4299"
[18,] "Lebanese_Muslim" "15.5837"
[19,] "Iranian_Persian" "16.162"
[20,] "Iranian_Jew" "17.1566"
Armenian_West mixedmode
[1,] "Armenian_West" "0"
[2,] "85.2% Armenian_East + 14.8% Greek_Cypriot" "1.0717"
[3,] "57.9% Turk_Meskhetian + 42.1% Lebanese_Christian" "1.2236"
[4,] "63.9% Greek_Trabzon + 36.1% Georgian_Jewish" "1.3079"
[5,] "85% Armenian_East + 15% Lebanese_Christian" "1.6212"
[6,] "40.6% Georgian_Laz + 59.4% Assyrian" "1.8246"
[7,] "70.2% Greek_Trabzon + 29.8% Assyrian" "1.8633"
[8,] "42.8% Turkish_Trabzon + 57.2% Georgian_Jewish" "1.8904"
[9,] "73.2% Turk_East + 26.8% Lebanese_Christian" "1.9082"
[10,] "88.4% Armenian_East + 11.6% Samaritan" "1.9768"
[11,] "52.5% Turk_East + 47.5% Assyrian" "1.9806"
[12,] "66.4% Georgian_Laz + 33.6% Druze" "2.034"
[13,] "57.4% Georgian_Laz + 42.6% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.0697"
[14,] "71.1% Armenian_East + 28.9% Assyrian" "2.1089"
[15,] "40.9% Abhkasian + 59.1% Lebanese_Christian" "2.1426"
[16,] "62.9% Georgian_Laz + 37.1% Lebanese_Christian" "2.1485"
[17,] "65.1% Turkish_Trabzon + 34.9% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.1598"
[18,] "87.9% Armenian_East + 12.1% Druze" "2.161"
[19,] "83.3% Armenian_East + 16.7% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.2144"
[20,] "48.5% Turkish_Trabzon + 51.5% Assyrian" "2
I have yet to update Greek_Central_Anatolia, East and West Georgia as well so the oracle might be noticeably different once I get my hands on some kits of the aformentioned groups. Based off of oszkar07's wife's results, it's obvious that she is Eastern Armenian. Shah Abbas of Persia relocated hundreds of thousands of Armenians from the modern day republic of Armenia to Persia in the 1600s so her results come as no surprise to me personally.
I will post her Eurogenes K15 custom calculator and oracle soon.
Kamal900
11-15-2019, 08:31 AM
My Armenian Wife's MyTrueAncestry
Closest Ancient Populations
Ostrogoth + Hittite (17.95)
Hellenic Roman + Hittite (20.85)
Hittite (21.71)
Ostrogoth (22.01)
Hellenic Roman (22.57)
Ancient Samples
1. Iron Age Kurdistan (900 BC) (10.05) - F38 (Click for more info)
2. Medieval Iran (1450 AD) (11.68) - I1955 (Click for more info)
3. Copper Age Iran (3800 BC) (13.71) - I1665 (Click for more info)
4. Copper Age Iran (4500 BC) (16.31) - I1661 (Click for more info)
5. Copper Age Iran (3900 BC) (16.55) - I1674 (Click for more info)
6. Armenia Bronze Age (3200 BC) (16.81) - I658 (Click for more info)
7. Copper Age Armenia (4000 BC) (19.14) - I1631 (Click for more info)
8. Crusader Knight Mix / Lebanon (1250 AD) (19.46) - SI-45 (Click for more info)
9. Hittite Anatolia (1675 BC) (21.71) - MA2200 (Click for more info)
10. Ostrogoth Hellenic Crimea (300 AD) (22.01) - Ker1 (Click for more info)
11. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (670 AD) (22.57) - CL30 (Click for more info)
12. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (670 AD) (23.56) - CL38 (Click for more info)
13. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) (23.88) - I0184 (Click for more info)
14. Bronze Age Armenia (1500 BC) (24.08) - Rise397 (Click for more info)
15. Alan (250 AD) (24.33) - DA162 (Click for more info)
16. Crusader Knight Armenian / Lebanon (1250 AD) (24.39) - SI-44 (Click for more info)
17. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (670 AD) (25.31) - CL25 (Click for more info)
18. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (26.08) - QED-2 (Click for more info)
19. Armenia Bronze Age (1450 BC) (26.34) - I1656 (Click for more info)
20. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) (26.39) - MA2198 (Click for more info)
21. Samaritan (2000 AD) (26.63) - Unknown (Click for more info)
22. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (26.97) - QED-7 (Click for more info)
23. Canaanite (1600 BC) (27.85) - ERS1790730 (Click for more info)
24. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (29.16) - QED-9 (Click for more info)
25. Canaanite (1600 BC) (29.44) - ERS1790731 (Click for more info)
26. Ottoman (1500 AD) (30.13) - MA2196 (Click for more info)
27. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (30.39) - MA2206 (Click for more info)
28. Ahskelon Canaanite (1200 BC) (30.74) - ASH008_ASH_IA2 (Click for more info)
29. Alan (485 AD) (30.81) - DA243 (Click for more info)
30. Canaanite (1650 BC) (31.84) - ERS1790733 (Click for more info)
31. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) (32.18) - MA2208 (Click for more info)
32. Ashkelon Canaanite (1600 BC) (32.28) - ASH034_ASH_LBA (Click for more info)
33. Neolothic Iran (8000 BC) (32.98) - I1290 (Click for more info)
34. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (33.54) - I9006 (Click for more info)
35. Canaanite (1600 BC) (34.41) - ERS1790729 (Click for more info)
36. Hellenic Roman (670 AD) (34.73) - CL121 (Click for more info)
37. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) (34.87) - SZ40 (Click for more info)
38. Egyptian Gladiator York (250 AD) (36.18) - 3DRIF-26 (Click for more info)
39. Canaanite (1600 BC) (36.37) - ERS1790732 (Click for more info)
40. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (36.48) - I9010 (Click for more info)
41. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) (37.32) - SI-41 (Click for more info)
42. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (37.34) - I9033 (Click for more info)
43. Mycenaean (1350 BC) (37.37) - I9041 (Click for more info)
44. Minoan (2000 BC) (38.35) - I0070 (Click for more info)
45. Minoan (2000 BC) (38.95) - I9129 (Click for more info)
46. Cimmerian Odessa (900 BC) (39.19) - cim358 (Click for more info)
47. Minoan (2000 BC) (39.2) - I9005 (Click for more info)
48. Roman Era Greco Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) (39.23) - QED-12 (Click for more info)
49. Ahskelon Canaanite (1570 BC) (39.24) - ASH029_ASH_LBA (Click for more info)
50. Minoan (2000 BC) (39.24) - I0071 (Click for more info)
51. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) (39.4) - SI-53 (Click for more info)
52. Central Roman (590 AD) (39.49) - SZ32 (Click for more info)
53. Ashkelon Canaanite/Minoan (1700 BC) (39.61) - ASH033_ASH_LBA (Click for more info)
54. Minoan (2000 BC) (40.27) - I0074 (Click for more info)
55. Central Roman (590 AD) (40.39) - SZ43 (Click for more info)
56. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) (40.49) - SZ19 (Click for more info)
57. Central Roman (590 AD) (40.73) - SZ36 (Click for more info)
58. Ashkelon Philistine (1150 BC) (40.74) - ASH2-3_ASH_IA1 (Click for more info)
59. Crusader Knight Georgian / Lebanon (1250 AD) (40.9) - SI-38 (Click for more info)
60. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) (41.23) - NS3b (Click for more info)
Modern Populations
1. Armenian (4.818)
2. Georgian_Jewish (6.639)
3. Kurdish (9.596)
4. Assyrian (11.26)
5. Azeri (12.25)
6. Turkish (12.58)
7. Iranian (12.81)
8. Iranian_Jewish (16.64)
Nothing surprising really. I mean, Armenians do have genetic affinity to the Levant due to the migrations of ancient Levantines to Armenia in the early bronze age period still they stop mixing with other west Asians in 1200 BCE according to the article here:
To study the Armenians' genetic relationship to worldwide populations, we computed principal components using 78 populations (Supplementary Table 1) and projected the Armenians onto the plot in a procedure called ‘PCA projection'14 (Figure 2a), which ensures that the PCA patterns are not affected by the large number of Armenians used in the analysis. We observe that Armenians form a distinctive cluster bounded by Europeans, Near Easterners, and the Caucasus populations. More specifically, Armenians are close to (1) Spaniards, Italians, and Romanians from Europe; (2) Lebanese, Jews, Druze, and Cypriots from the Near East; and (3) Georgians and Abkhazians from the Caucasus (Figure 2b). The position of the Armenians within the global genetic diversity appears to mirror the geographical location of Turkey. Previous genetic studies have generally used Turks as representatives of ancient populations from Turkey. Our results show that Turks are genetically shifted towards Central Asians, a pattern consistent with a history of mixture with populations from this region.
We obtained a tree that recapitulates the known relationships among population groups. Furthermore, the tree shows that the Iceman shared drift with Sardinians, as previously reported.21 We then ran TreeMix allowing it to infer only one migration event, and revealed gene flow from the Iceman to Armenians, accounting for about 29% of their ancestry. The graph structure appeared robust in 100 bootstrap replicates with the first migration (highest weight and lowest P-value), always leading from the Iceman to Armenians (Figure 4).
The expected value of f3(Yoruba; Iceman, X) in the absence of admixture with Yoruba will be a function of the shared genetic history of the Iceman and X (non-African populations). Most shared ancestry of the Iceman is with Sardinians and other Europeans (Supplementary Figure S3). This is followed by shared ancestry with some Near Eastern populations: Cypriots, Sephardic Jews, Armenians, and Lebanese Christians. Other Near Easterners such as Turks, Syrians, and Palestinians show less shared ancestry with the Iceman.
To investigate if the affinity of the Near East genetic isolates to Europeans preceded the arrival of the early farmers to Europe (represented by the Iceman), we repeated the outgroup f3 statistics and replaced the Iceman with a 7000-year-old European hunter-gatherer from Spain (La Braña).24 West European hunter-gatherers have previously been shown to have contributed ancestry to all Europeans but not to Near Easterners.6 Consistent with this, we found reduced affinity and no noticeable structure in the Near Easterners in their relation to La Braña (Supplementary Figure S4; compared with the Iceman).
We investigated Armenians further by inferring their admixture history. The Armenians show signatures of an origin from a mixture of diverse populations occurring from 3000 to 2000 bce. This period spans the Bronze Age, characterized by extensive use of metals in farming tools, chariots, and weapons, accompanied by development of the earliest writing systems and the establishment of trade routes and commerce. Many civilizations such as in ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia, and the Indus valley grew to prominence. Major population expansions followed, triggered by advances in transportation technology and the pursuit of resources. Our admixture tests show that Armenian genomes carry signals of an extensive population mixture during this period. We note that these mixture dates also coincide with the legendary establishment of Armenia in 2492 bce. Admixture signals decrease to insignificant levels after 1200 bce, a time when Bronze Age civilizations in the Eastern Mediterranean world suddenly collapsed, with major cities being destroyed or abandoned and most trade routes disrupted. This appears to have caused Armenians' isolation from their surroundings, subsequently sustained by the cultural/linguistic/religious distinctiveness that persists until today. The genetic landscape in most of the Middle East appears to have been continuously changing since then. For example, we detect East Asian ancestry in Turks from admixture occurring 800 (±170) years ago coinciding with the arrival of the Seljuk Turks to Anatolia from their homelands near the Aral sea. We also detect sub-Saharan African gene flow 850 (±85) years ago in Syrians, Palestinians, and Jordanians consistent with previous reports of recent gene flow from Africans to Levantine populations after the Arab expansions.5, 30
The admixture pattern in Armenians appears similar to patterns we have observed in some other genetic isolates in the region, such as Sephardic Jews and Lebanese Christians, who show limited admixture with culturally different neighbouring populations in the last two millennia.5 Our tests suggest that Armenians had no significant mixture with other populations in their recent history and have thus been genetically isolated since the end of the Bronze Age, 3000 years ago. In recent times, we detect genetic structure within the Armenian population that developed ~500 years ago. The date coincides with the start of the Ottoman–Persian wars and the split of Armenia into West and East between the Ottoman Empire in Turkey and the Safavid Empire in Iran.
We find in Armenians and other genetic isolates in the Near East high shared ancestry with ancient European farmers, with ancestry proportions being similar to present-day Europeans but not to present-day Near Easterners. These results suggest that genetic isolates in the Near East – Cypriots (an island population), Near Eastern Jews and Christians (religious isolates), and Armenians (Ethno-linguistic isolate) – probably retain the features of an ancient genetic landscape in the Near East that had more affinity to Europe than the present populations do. Our tests show that most of the Near East genetic isolates' ancestry that is shared with Europeans can be attributed to expansion after the Neolithic period.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4820045/
Kamal900
11-15-2019, 08:32 AM
Armenian_East custom average. I've compiled around 60 kits for this one.
North Sea - 2.71
Atlantic - 4.19
Baltic - 2.07
E. Euro - 3.12
W. Med - 6.86
W. Asian - 38.46
E. Med - 33.67
Red Sea - 5.49
S. Asian - 2.99
Armenian_West. I used around 20 kits for this one
North Sea - 2.3
Atlantic - 4.06
Baltic - 1.98
E. Euro - 2.29
W. Med - 8.91
W. Asian - 36.25
E. Med - 35.69
Red Sea - 5.69
S. Asian - 2.39
Armenian_East custom oracle
[1,] "Armenian_East" "0"
[2,] "Armenian_West" "3.8043"
[3,] "Turk_East" "4.2229"
[4,] "Greek_Trabzon" "5.0788"
[5,] "Turkish_Trabzon" "7.1033"
[6,] "Kurd_Armenia" "8.3238"
[7,] "Kurd" "8.5509"
[8,] "Georgian_Jewish" "8.778"
[9,] "Georgian_Laz" "9.1589"
[10,] "Azerbaijani" "9.9119"
[11,] "Assyrian" "10.9748"
[12,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "10.9751"
[13,] "Iranian_Lur" "10.9865"
[14,] "Turk_Meskhetian" "11.0845"
[15,] "Iranian_Mazandarani" "13.2337"
[16,] "Turkish_Adana" "13.9202"
[17,] "Iranian_Persian" "14.4605"
[18,] "Azeri_Dagestan" "16.8931"
[19,] "Kurdish_Jew" "16.9748"
[20,] "Lebanese_Muslim" "18.5189"
Armenian_East mixedmode
[1,] "Armenian_East" "0"
[2,] "80.7% Turk_East + 19.3% Kurdish_Jew" "1.1681"
[3,] "73% Turk_East + 27% Assyrian" "1.2575"
[4,] "68.4% Turk_East + 31.6% Georgian_Jewish" "1.3112"
[5,] "53.1% Armenian_West + 46.9% Turk_East" "1.5958"
[6,] "86.9% Turk_East + 13.1% Iraqi_Jew" "1.6545"
[7,] "83.4% Turk_East + 16.6% Iranian_Jew" "1.6857"
[8,] "70.1% Turk_Meskhetian + 29.9% Druze" "1.7071"
[9,] "86.3% Armenian_West + 13.7% Georgian" "1.7911"
[10,] "12.1% Adygei + 87.9% Armenian_West" "1.8118"
[11,] "87.1% Turk_East + 12.9% Druze" "1.8136"
[12,] "76.6% Armenian_West + 23.4% Turk_Meskhetian" "1.8355"
[13,] "49.7% Turk_Meskhetian + 50.3% Assyrian" "1.8478"
[14,] "89.7% Armenian_West + 10.3% Chechen" "1.8538"
[15,] "11.7% Abhkasian + 88.3% Armenian_West" "1.8766"
[16,] "83.6% Armenian_West + 16.4% Azeri_Dagestan" "1.9199"
[17,] "48.9% Georgian_Laz + 51.1% Georgian_Jewish" "1.9206"
[18,] "44% Turk_Meskhetian + 56% Georgian_Jewish" "1.9319"
[19,] "89.1% Armenian_West + 10.9% Lezgin" "1.9494"
[20,] "89% Armenian_West + 11% Ossetian" "1.9575"
Armenian_West oracle
[1,] "Armenian_West" "0"
[2,] "Armenian_East" "3.8043"
[3,] "Greek_Trabzon" "3.8226"
[4,] "Georgian_Jewish" "6.5036"
[5,] "Turk_East" "7.3631"
[6,] "Assyrian" "8.0883"
[7,] "Turkish_Trabzon" "8.5406"
[8,] "Kurd_Armenia" "9.9347"
[9,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "10.5096"
[10,] "Kurd" "10.9183"
[11,] "Azerbaijani" "11.5051"
[12,] "Georgian_Laz" "11.6612"
[13,] "Iranian_Lur" "12.371"
[14,] "Turkish_Adana" "13.0802"
[15,] "Turk_Meskhetian" "14.2637"
[16,] "Kurdish_Jew" "14.3166"
[17,] "Iranian_Mazandarani" "15.4299"
[18,] "Lebanese_Muslim" "15.5837"
[19,] "Iranian_Persian" "16.162"
[20,] "Iranian_Jew" "17.1566"
Armenian_West mixedmode
[1,] "Armenian_West" "0"
[2,] "85.2% Armenian_East + 14.8% Greek_Cypriot" "1.0717"
[3,] "57.9% Turk_Meskhetian + 42.1% Lebanese_Christian" "1.2236"
[4,] "63.9% Greek_Trabzon + 36.1% Georgian_Jewish" "1.3079"
[5,] "85% Armenian_East + 15% Lebanese_Christian" "1.6212"
[6,] "40.6% Georgian_Laz + 59.4% Assyrian" "1.8246"
[7,] "70.2% Greek_Trabzon + 29.8% Assyrian" "1.8633"
[8,] "42.8% Turkish_Trabzon + 57.2% Georgian_Jewish" "1.8904"
[9,] "73.2% Turk_East + 26.8% Lebanese_Christian" "1.9082"
[10,] "88.4% Armenian_East + 11.6% Samaritan" "1.9768"
[11,] "52.5% Turk_East + 47.5% Assyrian" "1.9806"
[12,] "66.4% Georgian_Laz + 33.6% Druze" "2.034"
[13,] "57.4% Georgian_Laz + 42.6% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.0697"
[14,] "71.1% Armenian_East + 28.9% Assyrian" "2.1089"
[15,] "40.9% Abhkasian + 59.1% Lebanese_Christian" "2.1426"
[16,] "62.9% Georgian_Laz + 37.1% Lebanese_Christian" "2.1485"
[17,] "65.1% Turkish_Trabzon + 34.9% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.1598"
[18,] "87.9% Armenian_East + 12.1% Druze" "2.161"
[19,] "83.3% Armenian_East + 16.7% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.2144"
[20,] "48.5% Turkish_Trabzon + 51.5% Assyrian" "2
I have yet to update Greek_Central_Anatolia, East and West Georgia as well so the oracle might be noticeably different once I get my hands on some kits of the aformentioned groups. Based off of oszkar07's wife's results, it's obvious that she is Eastern Armenian. Shah Abbas of Persia relocated hundreds of thousands of Armenians from the modern day republic of Armenia to Persia in the 1600s so her results come as no surprise to me personally.
I will post her Eurogenes K15 custom calculator and oracle soon.
Can you do for Palestinians and Syrians, please? I'm curious to see their results.
FinalFlash
11-15-2019, 08:37 AM
Nothing surprising really. I mean, Armenians do have genetic affinity to the Levant due to the migrations of ancient Levantines to Armenia in the early bronze age period still they stop mixing with other west Asians in 1200 BCE according to the article here:
There has never been any period in history where Levantines have migrated to Armenia or surrounding areas. On the contrary, all evidence points to Armenians, and various other northern west asian populations migrating to the Levant and contributing to modern Levantines from a genetic standpoint. Ancient people of the Levant were far closer to modern-day Bedouins and Arabians than their contemporary counterparts.
FinalFlash
11-15-2019, 08:37 AM
Can you do for Palestinians and Syrians, please? I'm curious to see their results.
Sure. Gimme a sec.
Kamal900
11-15-2019, 08:40 AM
There has never been any period in history where Levantines have migrated to Armenia or surrounding areas. On the contrary, all evidence points to Armenians, and various other northern west asian populations migrating to the Levant and contributing to modern Levantines from a genetic standpoint. Ancient people of the Levant were far closer to modern-day Bedouins and Arabians than their contemporary counterparts.
Oh, and I knew the part of other west asians migrating to the Levant and making them more closer to west asia than to Bedouins and so on, but I always thought that the Levantines after that migrated to Armenia or something in the middle Bronze age period. My bad, bro. :)
FinalFlash
11-15-2019, 08:45 AM
Oh, and I knew the part of other west asians migrating to the Levant and making them more closer to west asia than to Bedouins and so on, but I always thought that the Levantines after that migrated to Armenia or something in the middle Bronze age period. My bad, bro. :)
Yeah, Idk where you heard that from but it never happened bro lol. Northern West Asia is surprisingly quite homogenous, and has been for at least 3 millenia, if not more. The Levant has and still sees foreign genetic contribution in recent history(relatively speaking).
Kamal900
11-15-2019, 08:49 AM
Yeah, Idk where you heard that from but it never happened bro lol. Northern West Asia is surprisingly quite homogenous, and has been for at least 3 millenia, if not more. The Levant has and still sees foreign genetic contribution in recent history(relatively speaking).
True. Can't see my people's results :)
FinalFlash
11-15-2019, 08:49 AM
Can you do for Palestinians and Syrians, please? I'm curious to see their results.
Palestinian custom oracle
[1,] "Palestinian" "0"
[2,] "Samaritan" "3.4519"
[3,] "Jordanian" "4.938"
[4,] "Lebanese_Christian" "7.3433"
[5,] "Lebanese_Muslim" "8.6011"
[6,] "Syrian" "8.7515"
[7,] "Bedouin" "9.683"
[8,] "Druze" "9.8505"
[9,] "Egyptian" "11.9169"
[10,] "Turk_Cypriot" "12.8073"
[11,] "Tunisian_Jewish" "13.0495"
[12,] "Kurdish_Jew" "13.6075"
[13,] "Libyan_Jewish" "13.9664"
[14,] "Greek_Cypriot" "14.0301"
[15,] "Iranian_Jew" "16.2206"
[16,] "Assyrian" "16.2316"
[17,] "Sephardic_Jewish" "17.0495"
[18,] "Georgian_Jewish" "18.427"
[19,] "Iraqi_Jew" "18.4904"
[20,] "Algerian_Jewish" "18.5034"
Palestinian mixedmode
[1,] "Palestinian" "0"
[2,] "73.9% Samaritan + 26.1% Syrian" "1.6342"
[3,] "38.3% Jordanian + 61.7% Samaritan" "2.0205"
[4,] "94.9% Samaritan + 5.1% Tabassaran" "2.1657"
[5,] "94.8% Samaritan + 5.2% Tadjik" "2.2028"
[6,] "5.2% Lezgin + 94.8% Samaritan" "2.2329"
[7,] "91.9% Samaritan + 8.1% Iranian_Persian" "2.2549"
[8,] "4.8% Chechen + 95.2% Samaritan" "2.2693"
[9,] "5.3% Afghan_Tadjik + 94.7% Samaritan" "2.2708"
[10,] "93.3% Samaritan + 6.7% Turkmen" "2.2756"
[11,] "5.4% Afghan_Uzbeki + 94.6% Samaritan" "2.2772"
[12,] "4.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 95.3% Samaritan" "2.282"
[13,] "88.9% Samaritan + 11.1% Turkish_Adana" "2.2863"
[14,] "5.1% Kumyk + 94.9% Samaritan" "2.3037"
[15,] "8.5% Azerbaijani + 91.5% Samaritan" "2.3381"
[16,] "93.9% Samaritan + 6.1% Azeri_Dagestan" "2.3408"
[17,] "5.1% Nogay + 94.9% Samaritan" "2.3621"
[18,] "94% Samaritan + 6% Iranian_Bandari" "2.3866"
[19,] "23.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 76.9% Samaritan" "2.4061"
[20,] "4.9% Kabardin + 95.1% Samaritan" "2.4113"
Syrian custom oracle
[1,] "Syrian" "0"
[2,] "Lebanese_Muslim" "4.9346"
[3,] "Jordanian" "6.4973"
[4,] "Palestinian" "8.7515"
[5,] "Turk_Cypriot" "9.5602"
[6,] "Bedouin" "10.8635"
[7,] "Lebanese_Christian" "11.0836"
[8,] "Samaritan" "11.6381"
[9,] "Assyrian" "12.48"
[10,] "Kurdish_Jew" "12.6809"
[11,] "Turkish_Adana" "12.7944"
[12,] "Tunisian_Jewish" "13.1096"
[13,] "Georgian_Jewish" "13.5707"
[14,] "Druze" "13.6722"
[15,] "Libyan_Jewish" "14.0006"
[16,] "Egyptian" "14.5839"
[17,] "Sephardic_Jewish" "15.0786"
[18,] "Greek_Cypriot" "15.4994"
[19,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "16.0402"
[20,] "Iranian_Jew" "16.3933"
Syrian mixedmode
[1,] "Syrian" "0"
[2,] "13.1% Ethiopian_Amhara + 86.9% Lebanese_Muslim" "1.7732"
[3,] "13.5% Ethiopian_Tigray + 86.5% Lebanese_Muslim" "1.8398"
[4,] "87.1% Jordanian + 12.9% Ossetian" "1.8925"
[5,] "86.7% Jordanian + 13.3% Kabardin" "2.0062"
[6,] "86.7% Jordanian + 13.3% Kabardin" "2.007"
[7,] "13.2% Balkar + 86.8% Jordanian" "2.0126"
[8,] "12.5% Chechen + 87.5% Jordanian" "2.0155"
[9,] "87.6% Jordanian + 12.4% North_Ossetian" "2.0236"
[10,] "13.4% Adygei + 86.6% Jordanian" "2.029"
[11,] "67.3% Jordanian + 32.7% Turkish_Adana" "2.146"
[12,] "89.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 10.6% Somali" "2.164"
[13,] "86.6% Jordanian + 13.4% Kumyk" "2.2257"
[14,] "41.5% Armenian_East + 58.5% Egyptian" "2.2283"
[15,] "11.7% Ethiopian_Oromo + 88.3% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.2854"
[16,] "10.9% Ethiopian_Wolayta + 89.1% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.4505"
[17,] "87% Jordanian + 13% Lezgin" "2.4736"
[18,] "38.1% Turk_East + 61.9% Egyptian" "2.5257"
[19,] "87.5% Jordanian + 12.5% Tabassaran" "2.5532"
[20,] "83.9% Jordanian + 16.1% Azeri_Dagestan" "2.5641"
Kamal900
11-15-2019, 08:51 AM
Palestinian custom oracle
[1,] "Palestinian" "0"
[2,] "Samaritan" "3.4519"
[3,] "Jordanian" "4.938"
[4,] "Lebanese_Christian" "7.3433"
[5,] "Lebanese_Muslim" "8.6011"
[6,] "Syrian" "8.7515"
[7,] "Bedouin" "9.683"
[8,] "Druze" "9.8505"
[9,] "Egyptian" "11.9169"
[10,] "Turk_Cypriot" "12.8073"
[11,] "Tunisian_Jewish" "13.0495"
[12,] "Kurdish_Jew" "13.6075"
[13,] "Libyan_Jewish" "13.9664"
[14,] "Greek_Cypriot" "14.0301"
[15,] "Iranian_Jew" "16.2206"
[16,] "Assyrian" "16.2316"
[17,] "Sephardic_Jewish" "17.0495"
[18,] "Georgian_Jewish" "18.427"
[19,] "Iraqi_Jew" "18.4904"
[20,] "Algerian_Jewish" "18.5034"
Palestinian mixedmode
[1,] "Palestinian" "0"
[2,] "73.9% Samaritan + 26.1% Syrian" "1.6342"
[3,] "38.3% Jordanian + 61.7% Samaritan" "2.0205"
[4,] "94.9% Samaritan + 5.1% Tabassaran" "2.1657"
[5,] "94.8% Samaritan + 5.2% Tadjik" "2.2028"
[6,] "5.2% Lezgin + 94.8% Samaritan" "2.2329"
[7,] "91.9% Samaritan + 8.1% Iranian_Persian" "2.2549"
[8,] "4.8% Chechen + 95.2% Samaritan" "2.2693"
[9,] "5.3% Afghan_Tadjik + 94.7% Samaritan" "2.2708"
[10,] "93.3% Samaritan + 6.7% Turkmen" "2.2756"
[11,] "5.4% Afghan_Uzbeki + 94.6% Samaritan" "2.2772"
[12,] "4.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 95.3% Samaritan" "2.282"
[13,] "88.9% Samaritan + 11.1% Turkish_Adana" "2.2863"
[14,] "5.1% Kumyk + 94.9% Samaritan" "2.3037"
[15,] "8.5% Azerbaijani + 91.5% Samaritan" "2.3381"
[16,] "93.9% Samaritan + 6.1% Azeri_Dagestan" "2.3408"
[17,] "5.1% Nogay + 94.9% Samaritan" "2.3621"
[18,] "94% Samaritan + 6% Iranian_Bandari" "2.3866"
[19,] "23.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 76.9% Samaritan" "2.4061"
[20,] "4.9% Kabardin + 95.1% Samaritan" "2.4113"
Syrian custom oracle
[1,] "Syrian" "0"
[2,] "Lebanese_Muslim" "4.9346"
[3,] "Jordanian" "6.4973"
[4,] "Palestinian" "8.7515"
[5,] "Turk_Cypriot" "9.5602"
[6,] "Bedouin" "10.8635"
[7,] "Lebanese_Christian" "11.0836"
[8,] "Samaritan" "11.6381"
[9,] "Assyrian" "12.48"
[10,] "Kurdish_Jew" "12.6809"
[11,] "Turkish_Adana" "12.7944"
[12,] "Tunisian_Jewish" "13.1096"
[13,] "Georgian_Jewish" "13.5707"
[14,] "Druze" "13.6722"
[15,] "Libyan_Jewish" "14.0006"
[16,] "Egyptian" "14.5839"
[17,] "Sephardic_Jewish" "15.0786"
[18,] "Greek_Cypriot" "15.4994"
[19,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "16.0402"
[20,] "Iranian_Jew" "16.3933"
Syrian mixedmode
[1,] "Syrian" "0"
[2,] "13.1% Ethiopian_Amhara + 86.9% Lebanese_Muslim" "1.7732"
[3,] "13.5% Ethiopian_Tigray + 86.5% Lebanese_Muslim" "1.8398"
[4,] "87.1% Jordanian + 12.9% Ossetian" "1.8925"
[5,] "86.7% Jordanian + 13.3% Kabardin" "2.0062"
[6,] "86.7% Jordanian + 13.3% Kabardin" "2.007"
[7,] "13.2% Balkar + 86.8% Jordanian" "2.0126"
[8,] "12.5% Chechen + 87.5% Jordanian" "2.0155"
[9,] "87.6% Jordanian + 12.4% North_Ossetian" "2.0236"
[10,] "13.4% Adygei + 86.6% Jordanian" "2.029"
[11,] "67.3% Jordanian + 32.7% Turkish_Adana" "2.146"
[12,] "89.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 10.6% Somali" "2.164"
[13,] "86.6% Jordanian + 13.4% Kumyk" "2.2257"
[14,] "41.5% Armenian_East + 58.5% Egyptian" "2.2283"
[15,] "11.7% Ethiopian_Oromo + 88.3% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.2854"
[16,] "10.9% Ethiopian_Wolayta + 89.1% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.4505"
[17,] "87% Jordanian + 13% Lezgin" "2.4736"
[18,] "38.1% Turk_East + 61.9% Egyptian" "2.5257"
[19,] "87.5% Jordanian + 12.5% Tabassaran" "2.5532"
[20,] "83.9% Jordanian + 16.1% Azeri_Dagestan" "2.5641"
Looks very accurate. Thanks dude :)
Are they Muslims btw?
FinalFlash
11-15-2019, 08:55 AM
Looks very accurate. Thanks dude :)
Are they Muslims btw?
Not sure tbh. The only recognizable differences that I see are that Lebanese Muslims are actually closer to Syrians than they are to their Christian counterparts. Leb Christians and Samaritans seem to be the purest of all Levantines from a genetic standpoint. Basically they have the least non-Levantine admixture from all Levantine groups. Palestinians seems to be almost equidistant to Bedouins and northern Levantines. You are indeed an outlier for Palestinians based off of your admixture results and even phenotype
Kamal900
11-15-2019, 09:28 AM
Not sure tbh. The only recognizable differences that I see are that Lebanese Muslims are actually closer to Syrians than they are to their Christian counterparts. Leb Christians and Samaritans seem to be the purest of all Levantines from a genetic standpoint. Basically they have the least non-Levantine admixture from all Levantine groups. Palestinians seems to be almost equidistant to Bedouins and northern Levantines. You are indeed an outlier for Palestinians based off of your admixture results and even phenotype
Which is why using G25 for us Palestinians and other Levantines is better:
https://i.ibb.co/z6SJBcs/2019-10-31-10-47-41-vahaduo-github-io-9c3c08eef9b5.jpg
You also need to remember that BedouinA group is different from BedouinB who are Arabians genetically like the Saudis and Yemenite Arabs.
Armenian_East custom average. I've compiled around 60 kits for this one.
Great job. The Eastern one is almost identical to that of Eurogenes.
Nice Oszkar! She seems very pure Armenian despite being from disapora in Iran for centuries. Amazing :D
I really wonder where would your kids plot, since you are basically East German like on gedmatch.
FinalFlash
11-15-2019, 10:00 PM
Great job. The Eastern one is almost identical to that of Eurogenes.
Can you show me the average on Eurogenes?
Can you show me the average on Eurogenes?
Armenian
North_Sea 4.05
Atlantic 2.34
Baltic 1.06
Eastern_Euro 2.01
West_Med 8.80
West_Asian 37.25
East_Med 35.14
Red_Sea 5.12
South_Asian 3.39
This is K15 which you used.
FinalFlash
11-15-2019, 10:10 PM
Armenian
North_Sea 4.05
Atlantic 2.34
Baltic 1.06
Eastern_Euro 2.01
West_Med 8.80
West_Asian 37.25
East_Med 35.14
Red_Sea 5.12
South_Asian 3.39
This is K15 which you used.
Similar to mine with some subtle differences.
Similar to mine with some subtle differences.
They might have merged Eastern and Western Armenians for this one.
FinalFlash
11-15-2019, 10:16 PM
They might have merged Eastern and Western Armenians for this one.
Yes, that's the likeliest scenario. Even the oracles and mixedmode are noticeably different.
Armenian_East custom oracle
[1,] "Armenian_East" "0"
[2,] "Armenian_West" "3.8043"
[3,] "Turk_East" "4.2229"
[4,] "Greek_Trabzon" "5.0788"
[5,] "Turkish_Trabzon" "7.1033"
[6,] "Kurd_Armenia" "8.3238"
[7,] "Kurd" "8.5509"
[8,] "Georgian_Jewish" "8.778"
[9,] "Georgian_Laz" "9.1589"
[10,] "Azerbaijani" "9.9119"
[11,] "Assyrian" "10.9748"
[12,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "10.9751"
[13,] "Iranian_Lur" "10.9865"
[14,] "Turk_Meskhetian" "11.0845"
[15,] "Iranian_Mazandarani" "13.2337"
[16,] "Turkish_Adana" "13.9202"
[17,] "Iranian_Persian" "14.4605"
[18,] "Azeri_Dagestan" "16.8931"
[19,] "Kurdish_Jew" "16.9748"
[20,] "Lebanese_Muslim" "18.5189"
Armenian_East mixedmode
[1,] "Armenian_East" "0"
[2,] "80.7% Turk_East + 19.3% Kurdish_Jew" "1.1681"
[3,] "73% Turk_East + 27% Assyrian" "1.2575"
[4,] "68.4% Turk_East + 31.6% Georgian_Jewish" "1.3112"
[5,] "53.1% Armenian_West + 46.9% Turk_East" "1.5958"
[6,] "86.9% Turk_East + 13.1% Iraqi_Jew" "1.6545"
[7,] "83.4% Turk_East + 16.6% Iranian_Jew" "1.6857"
[8,] "70.1% Turk_Meskhetian + 29.9% Druze" "1.7071"
[9,] "86.3% Armenian_West + 13.7% Georgian" "1.7911"
[10,] "12.1% Adygei + 87.9% Armenian_West" "1.8118"
[11,] "87.1% Turk_East + 12.9% Druze" "1.8136"
[12,] "76.6% Armenian_West + 23.4% Turk_Meskhetian" "1.8355"
[13,] "49.7% Turk_Meskhetian + 50.3% Assyrian" "1.8478"
[14,] "89.7% Armenian_West + 10.3% Chechen" "1.8538"
[15,] "11.7% Abhkasian + 88.3% Armenian_West" "1.8766"
[16,] "83.6% Armenian_West + 16.4% Azeri_Dagestan" "1.9199"
[17,] "48.9% Georgian_Laz + 51.1% Georgian_Jewish" "1.9206"
[18,] "44% Turk_Meskhetian + 56% Georgian_Jewish" "1.9319"
[19,] "89.1% Armenian_West + 10.9% Lezgin" "1.9494"
[20,] "89% Armenian_West + 11% Ossetian" "1.9575"
Armenian_West oracle
[1,] "Armenian_West" "0"
[2,] "Armenian_East" "3.8043"
[3,] "Greek_Trabzon" "3.8226"
[4,] "Georgian_Jewish" "6.5036"
[5,] "Turk_East" "7.3631"
[6,] "Assyrian" "8.0883"
[7,] "Turkish_Trabzon" "8.5406"
[8,] "Kurd_Armenia" "9.9347"
[9,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "10.5096"
[10,] "Kurd" "10.9183"
[11,] "Azerbaijani" "11.5051"
[12,] "Georgian_Laz" "11.6612"
[13,] "Iranian_Lur" "12.371"
[14,] "Turkish_Adana" "13.0802"
[15,] "Turk_Meskhetian" "14.2637"
[16,] "Kurdish_Jew" "14.3166"
[17,] "Iranian_Mazandarani" "15.4299"
[18,] "Lebanese_Muslim" "15.5837"
[19,] "Iranian_Persian" "16.162"
[20,] "Iranian_Jew" "17.1566"
Armenian_West mixedmode
[1,] "Armenian_West" "0"
[2,] "85.2% Armenian_East + 14.8% Greek_Cypriot" "1.0717"
[3,] "57.9% Turk_Meskhetian + 42.1% Lebanese_Christian" "1.2236"
[4,] "63.9% Greek_Trabzon + 36.1% Georgian_Jewish" "1.3079"
[5,] "85% Armenian_East + 15% Lebanese_Christian" "1.6212"
[6,] "40.6% Georgian_Laz + 59.4% Assyrian" "1.8246"
[7,] "70.2% Greek_Trabzon + 29.8% Assyrian" "1.8633"
[8,] "42.8% Turkish_Trabzon + 57.2% Georgian_Jewish" "1.8904"
[9,] "73.2% Turk_East + 26.8% Lebanese_Christian" "1.9082"
[10,] "88.4% Armenian_East + 11.6% Samaritan" "1.9768"
[11,] "52.5% Turk_East + 47.5% Assyrian" "1.9806"
[12,] "66.4% Georgian_Laz + 33.6% Druze" "2.034"
[13,] "57.4% Georgian_Laz + 42.6% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.0697"
[14,] "71.1% Armenian_East + 28.9% Assyrian" "2.1089"
[15,] "40.9% Abhkasian + 59.1% Lebanese_Christian" "2.1426"
[16,] "62.9% Georgian_Laz + 37.1% Lebanese_Christian" "2.1485"
[17,] "65.1% Turkish_Trabzon + 34.9% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.1598"
[18,] "87.9% Armenian_East + 12.1% Druze" "2.161"
[19,] "83.3% Armenian_East + 16.7% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.2144"
[20,] "48.5% Turkish_Trabzon + 51.5% Assyrian" "2
This makes sense
"86.3% Armenian_West + 13.7% Georgian" "1.7911"
What was the highest West Asian score in the Eastern set?
FinalFlash
11-15-2019, 10:26 PM
This makes sense
"86.3% Armenian_West + 13.7% Georgian" "1.7911"
What was the highest West Asian score in the Eastern set?
The highest that I remember was 43-44%. Maybe even 45%.
The lowest was no less than 35%. Most generally range between 37-40%. West Med was surprisingly not too high and many individuals scored East Med in the low 30s and even below that. The non-med total Euro score surprisingly ranged from anywhere between 9-15%, and sometimes a bit higher than that but they average 12% usually.
I made a compilation of those caspianoid email kits on G25, the "armenia86" and what not and converted them to K15 and they scored only 8% non Med Euro, 4% West Med, and 42% East Med. Considerably different to real people.
Also, I still have to update West and East Georgian if I can ever get my hands on some kits so the mixedmode and oracle can change.
The highest that I remember was 43-44%. Maybe even 45%.
The lowest was no less than 35%. Most generally range between 37-40%. West Med was surprisingly not too high and many individuals scored East Med in the low 30s and even below that. The non-med total Euro score surprisingly ranged from anywhere between 9-15%, and sometimes a bit higher than that but they average 12% usually.
I made a compilation of those caspianoid email kits on G25, the "armenia86" and what not and converted them to K15 and they scored only 8% non Med Euro, 4% West Med, and 42% East Med. Considerably different to real people.
Also, I still have to update West and East Georgian if I can ever get my hands on some kits so the mixedmode and oracle can change.
I see. Armenians are largely homogenous, more so than Turks or Central Asians.
I would recommend you to calculate averages from Dodecad K12b as well. I'm interested in the North European and Atlanto Med range.
FinalFlash
11-15-2019, 10:36 PM
I see. Armenians are largely homogenous, more so than Turks or Central Asians.
I would recommend you to calculate averages from Dodecad K12b as well. I'm interested in the North European and Atlanto Med range.
I'm currently trying to compile averages for Eurogenes k12b as I find that to be a good calculator as well. It originally does not come with an oracle but one of our users here says that he can create one with that R program so it would be interesting to see.
Negah
11-15-2019, 10:50 PM
interesting how on some of these calculators have Armenians closer genetically to Assyrian, various Jewish s groups, and Kurds than Georgians.
FinalFlash
11-15-2019, 10:59 PM
interesting how on some of these calculators it has Armenians closer genetically to Assyrian, various Jews groups, and Kurds than Georgians.
Flawed sample sizes and references, missing various populations. Also, a clear lack of multiple Georgian and Turkish references highlighting their genetic diversity which is why you see what you see. Btw, Eastern Georgians score similarly to Georgian_Laz and Meskhetian Turks.
Armenian_East custom oracle
[1,] "Armenian_East" "0"
[2,] "Armenian_West" "3.8043"
[3,] "Turk_East" "4.2229"4,]
[4,] "Greek_Trabzon" "5.0788"
[5,] "Turkish_Trabzon" "7.1033"
[6,] "Kurd_Armenia" "8.3238"
[7,] "Kurd" "8.5509"
[8,] "Georgian_Jewish" "8.778"
[9,] "Georgian_Laz" "9.1589"
[10,] "Azerbaijani" "9.9119"
[11,] "Assyrian" "10.9748"
[12,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "10.9751"
[13,] "Iranian_Lur" "10.9865"
[14,] "Turk_Meskhetian" "11.0845"
[15,] "Iranian_Mazandarani" "13.2337"
[16,] "Turkish_Adana" "13.9202"
[17,] "Iranian_Persian" "14.4605"
[18,] "Azeri_Dagestan" "16.8931"
[19,] "Kurdish_Jew" "16.9748"
[20,] "Lebanese_Muslim" "18.5189"
Armenian_East mixedmode
[1,] "Armenian_East" "0"
[2,] "80.7% Turk_East + 19.3% Kurdish_Jew" "1.1681"
[3,] "73% Turk_East + 27% Assyrian" "1.2575"
[4,] "68.4% Turk_East + 31.6% Georgian_Jewish" "1.3112"
[5,] "53.1% Armenian_West + 46.9% Turk_East" "1.5958"
[6,] "86.9% Turk_East + 13.1% Iraqi_Jew" "1.6545"
[7,] "83.4% Turk_East + 16.6% Iranian_Jew" "1.6857"
[8,] "70.1% Turk_Meskhetian + 29.9% Druze" "1.7071"
[9,] "86.3% Armenian_West + 13.7% Georgian" "1.7911"
[10,] "12.1% Adygei + 87.9% Armenian_West" "1.8118"
[11,] "87.1% Turk_East + 12.9% Druze" "1.8136"
[12,] "76.6% Armenian_West + 23.4% Turk_Meskhetian" "1.8355"
[13,] "49.7% Turk_Meskhetian + 50.3% Assyrian" "1.8478"
[14,] "89.7% Armenian_West + 10.3% Chechen" "1.8538"
[15,] "11.7% Abhkasian + 88.3% Armenian_West" "1.8766"
[16,] "83.6% Armenian_West + 16.4% Azeri_Dagestan" "1.9199"
[17,] "48.9% Georgian_Laz + 51.1% Georgian_Jewish" "1.9206"
[18,] "44% Turk_Meskhetian + 56% Georgian_Jewish" "1.9319"
[19,] "89.1% Armenian_West + 10.9% Lezgin" "1.9494"
[20,] "89% Armenian_West + 11% Ossetian" "1.9575"
Armenian_West oracle
[1,] "Armenian_West" "0"
[2,] "Armenian_East" "3.8043"
[3,] "Greek_Trabzon" "3.8226"
[4,] "Georgian_Jewish" "6.5036"
[5,] "Turk_East" "7.3631"
[6,] "Assyrian" "8.0883"
[7,] "Turkish_Trabzon" "8.5406"
[8,] "Kurd_Armenia" "9.9347"
[9,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "10.5096"
[10,] "Kurd" "10.9183"
[11,] "Azerbaijani" "11.5051"
[12,] "Georgian_Laz" "11.6612"
[13,] "Iranian_Lur" "12.371"
[14,] "Turkish_Adana" "13.0802"
[15,] "Turk_Meskhetian" "14.2637"
[16,] "Kurdish_Jew" "14.3166"
[17,] "Iranian_Mazandarani" "15.4299"
[18,] "Lebanese_Muslim" "15.5837"
[19,] "Iranian_Persian" "16.162"
[20,] "Iranian_Jew" "17.1566"
Armenian_West mixedmode
[1,] "Armenian_West" "0"
[2,] "85.2% Armenian_East + 14.8% Greek_Cypriot" "1.0717"
[3,] "57.9% Turk_Meskhetian + 42.1% Lebanese_Christian" "1.2236"
[4,] "63.9% Greek_Trabzon + 36.1% Georgian_Jewish" "1.3079"
[5,] "85% Armenian_East + 15% Lebanese_Christian" "1.6212"
[6,] "40.6% Georgian_Laz + 59.4% Assyrian" "1.8246"
[7,] "70.2% Greek_Trabzon + 29.8% Assyrian" "1.8633"
[8,] "42.8% Turkish_Trabzon + 57.2% Georgian_Jewish" "1.8904"
[9,] "73.2% Turk_East + 26.8% Lebanese_Christian" "1.9082"
[10,] "88.4% Armenian_East + 11.6% Samaritan" "1.9768"
[11,] "52.5% Turk_East + 47.5% Assyrian" "1.9806"
[12,] "66.4% Georgian_Laz + 33.6% Druze" "2.034"
[13,] "57.4% Georgian_Laz + 42.6% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.0697"
[14,] "71.1% Armenian_East + 28.9% Assyrian" "2.1089"
[15,] "40.9% Abhkasian + 59.1% Lebanese_Christian" "2.1426"
[16,] "62.9% Georgian_Laz + 37.1% Lebanese_Christian" "2.1485"
[17,] "65.1% Turkish_Trabzon + 34.9% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.1598"
[18,] "87.9% Armenian_East + 12.1% Druze" "2.161"
[19,] "83.3% Armenian_East + 16.7% Lebanese_Muslim" "2.2144"
[20,] "48.5% Turkish_Trabzon + 51.5% Assyrian" "2
Babak
11-15-2019, 11:07 PM
Standard armenian result. A bit more baltic, but it isnt much to make any difference. Iranian armenians have their own community and rarely ever marry outside of their ethnic group.
FinalFlash
11-15-2019, 11:23 PM
Standard armenian result. A bit more baltic, but it isnt much to make any difference. Iranian armenians have their own community and rarely ever marry outside of their ethnic group.
Her results are identical to my Armenian_East average which makes sense since Iranian Armenians are largely transplants from Eastern Armenia.
FinalFlash
11-19-2019, 09:25 AM
I see. Armenians are largely homogenous, more so than Turks or Central Asians.
I would recommend you to calculate averages from Dodecad K12b as well. I'm interested in the North European and Atlanto Med range.
Thanks Bro,
Yeh just got her Ancestry results back today.
She is excited and also happy that she gets mostly Armenian , Armenians have been in Iran for up to 500 years so based on her results she doesnt seem to admixed mostly Armenian ... is cool she gets some Hungarian on the Dodecad K12B
92.5% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 7.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.57
oszkar07 wife oracle
[1,] "Armenian_East" "2.3844"
[2,] "Turk_East" "3.8736"
[3,] "Armenian_West" "4.557"
[4,] "Greek_Trabzon" "5.0801"
[5,] "Turkish_Trabzon" "5.6817"
[6,] "Georgian_Laz" "8.0674"
[7,] "Kurd_Armenia" "9.6812"
[8,] "Kurd" "9.9094"
[9,] "Georgian_Jewish" "10.086"
[10,] "Turk_Meskhetian" "10.6289"
[11,] "Azerbaijani" "11.3105"
[12,] "Assyrian" "12.0161"
[13,] "Iranian_Lur" "12.1845"
[14,] "Turkish_Kayseri" "12.2762"
[15,] "Iranian_Mazandarani" "14.2834"
[16,] "Turkish_Adana" "15.3353"
[17,] "Iranian_Persian" "15.8318"
[18,] "Azeri_Dagestan" "17.6365"
[19,] "Kurdish_Jew" "18.0175"
[20,] "Lebanese_Muslim" "19.4901"
wife mixedmode
[1,] "76.4% Armenian_East + 23.6% Turkish_Trabzon" "1.6925"
[2,] "88.6% Turk_East + 11.4% Iraqi_Jew" "1.9029"
[3,] "85.4% Armenian_East + 14.6% Georgian_Laz" "1.9744"
[4,] "44.7% Armenian_West + 55.3% Turk_East" "2.0441"
[5,] "86% Turk_East + 14% Iranian_Jew" "2.0923"
[6,] "14.3% Abhkasian + 85.7% Armenian_West" "2.1282"
[7,] "76.1% Armenian_East + 23.9% Turk_East" "2.1609"
[8,] "3.2% Abhkasian + 96.8% Armenian_East" "2.2457"
[9,] "83.9% Armenian_West + 16.1% Georgian" "2.2574"
[10,] "79% Turk_East + 21% Assyrian" "2.2751"
[11,] "93.7% Armenian_East + 6.3% Turk_Meskhetian" "2.2785"
[12,] "96.8% Armenian_East + 3.2% Georgian" "2.2851"
[13,] "85.1% Turk_East + 14.9% Kurdish_Jew" "2.2933"
[14,] "66.3% Armenian_West + 33.7% Georgian_Laz" "2.3061"
[15,] "89% Armenian_East + 11% Greek_Trabzon" "2.3181"
[16,] "98.5% Armenian_East + 1.5% North_Ossetian" "2.3467"
[17,] "72.7% Armenian_West + 27.3% Turk_Meskhetian" "2.3578"
[18,] "56% Georgian_Laz + 44% Georgian_Jewish" "2.3599"
[19,] "0.8% Adygei + 99.2% Armenian_East" "2.3768"
[20,] "99.3% Armenian_East + 0.7% Ossetian" "2.3771"
Pretty much on par with Eastern Armenians
Pater Patota
11-19-2019, 10:25 AM
His wife is the closest to me on the K36 pca map.She's fully Armenian I think, I'm just quarter Armenian.
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