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chociprasa
07-29-2019, 09:56 AM
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HXYAC0/marat-izmailov-russia-lokomotiv-moscow-faro-loule-algarve-portugal-HXYAC0.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/Marat_Izmailov.jpg/300px-Marat_Izmailov.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qG6uIwNCCGA/SgoPhfbjmLI/AAAAAAAAAns/dqfDdiDfays/s400/marat-izmailov.jpg
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2010-fm-stories/22102d1261950807-sporting-cp-leoes-rise-greatness-marat_izmailov.jpg
http://ligamistru-2003-2004.xf.cz/obrazky/fotky/lokomotiv_moskva/400x600/marat_izmailov.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5347/7050263547_e0362bdc94_z.jpg

He’s ethnically a Volga Tatar, but I think many people see him as a stereotypical Russian man. Do you agree? I think that he looks very unmistakingly Russian, I’m not even sure if he could pass in Ukraine or Belarus.

Viridian1
07-29-2019, 09:59 AM
Yes he has that russian look but this is N1c or something. Connected with East Baltic and Ladogan phenotype and he would also pass in Finland.

chociprasa
07-29-2019, 10:05 AM
Yes he has that russian look but this is N1c or something. Connected with East Baltic and Ladogan phenotype and he would also pass in Finland.

In my opinion, he would be atypical for a Finn. The same goes with other alleged East Baltic Russians, like Vladimir Putin, who also would be a bit off looking in Finland. If anything, it’s a look that I associate with the Finno-Ugric tribes living in Karelia and eastwards, some kind of Ladogan type.

Viridian1
07-29-2019, 10:10 AM
In my opinion, he would be atypical for a Finn. The same goes with other alleged East Baltic Russians, like Vladimir Putin, who also would be a bit off looking in Finland. If anything, it’s a look that I associate with the Finno-Ugric tribes living in Karelia and eastwards, some kind of Ladogan type.

Not even as Saami?

Blondie
07-29-2019, 10:12 AM
Yes he's über russian :D

Cumansky
07-29-2019, 10:18 AM
Can pass in North Slavic, Baltic, Finland

Best pass Russian

Vojnik
07-29-2019, 10:19 AM
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HXYAC0/marat-izmailov-russia-lokomotiv-moscow-faro-loule-algarve-portugal-HXYAC0.jpg






He’s ethnically a Volga Tatar, but I think many people see him as a stereotypical Russian man. Do you agree? I think that he looks very unmistakingly Russian, I’m not even sure if he could pass in Ukraine or Belarus.

Yes. Like Arshavin:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FDllExjES-8/UPqz99xuCEI/AAAAAAAAB5w/LFF58QeD2sg/s1600/Andrey+Arshavin+7.jpg

chociprasa
07-29-2019, 10:19 AM
Not even as Saami?

Maybe as a Saami, but he would still be rather atypical. Saamis have different eyes, different noses etc, same with the Finns.

Komintasavalta
11-16-2020, 03:59 PM
Andrey Arshavin looks ultra-Finnic. He is from Saint Petersburg, so maybe he has Finnic or North Russian ancestry. Marat Izmailov looks like he is from the Volga-Ural region (but with intermediate Mongoloid admixture, so not Mordvin and not unmixed Bashkir). Neither looks very Russian.

https://i.imgur.com/7fe1gJv.jpg

Arshavin has a sharp midface profile with high protrusion of the nasal skeleton, like what was described as characteristic of Karelians in the Kylälahti paper (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/251692355_New_craniometric_evidence_on_the_origin_ of_the_Karelians_the_Kylalahti_Kalmistomaki_Burial _Ground):


Karelians display a rather unusual trait combination, characterized by mesobrachycrany and a relatively short, wide, robust and extremely high braincase. The face is medium high and medium wide (it is wide in northern Karelia). The upper horizontal facial profile is flattened by European standards, but the midfacial profile is sharp. The nose is sharply protruding and convex. This trait combination opposes the Karelians to all modern and recent groups of Eurasia including the closest linguistic relatives of Karelians, the Baltic Finns, specifically the Suomi Finns and Estonians (Khartanovich, 1986, 1990). Among the prehistoric series, the same trait combination is observed in the Meso-Neolithic sample from Zvejnieki, Latvia (Khartanovich, 1991b).

https://i.imgur.com/2KQOBYj.jpg

Bmack
11-16-2020, 05:58 PM
No he doesn't, it's hypocrisy to think all russians look baltid/neo danubian /ladogan. It's not even remotely true.

2garin
11-17-2020, 10:43 AM
No, he looks like a Finno-Permic Karelian or a Volga-Uralic Tatarian.
Alexander Kerzhakov looks more like a stereotypical Russian.
https://i.imgur.com/hCqP9WY.jpg

TheMaestro
11-17-2020, 11:42 AM
No, he looks like a Finno-Permic Karelian or a Volga-Uralic Tatarian.
Alexander Kerzhakov looks more like a stereotypical Russian.


Is it you laag? XD

2garin
11-17-2020, 12:07 PM
Is it you laag? XD

No.

Bmack
11-17-2020, 01:09 PM
No, he looks like a Finno-Permic Karelian or a Volga-Uralic Tatarian.
Alexander Kerzhakov looks more like a stereotypical Russian.
https://i.imgur.com/hCqP9WY.jpg

this. People are delusional. Marat, ismail isn't even russian name, sounds muslim or turkic.

Victor
08-09-2022, 11:46 AM
Marat Izmailov is an ethnic Tatar

Atlantic Reptilian
08-09-2022, 11:54 AM
No, but he wouldn't look out of place. Russia is a very diverse country, so you can find many different looks.

Immanenz
08-09-2022, 12:13 PM
Uralische EHG boy

Atlantic Reptilian
08-09-2022, 12:25 PM
this. People are delusional. Marat, ismail isn't even russian name, sounds muslim or turkic.
Well there is quite a large muslim minority in Russia and is considered a part of the country (not immigrants).

Norb
08-09-2022, 02:52 PM
No, he looks like a Finno-Permic Karelian or a Volga-Uralic Tatarian.
Alexander Kerzhakov looks more like a stereotypical Russian.
https://i.imgur.com/hCqP9WY.jpg

"this guy looks straight up Aryan" - aherne

Atlantic Reptilian
08-09-2022, 03:16 PM
"this guy looks straight up Aryan" - aherne
He looks rather pontid

Immanenz
08-09-2022, 03:22 PM
"this guy looks straight up Aryan" - aherne

Kerzhakov looks more Pan- European than typical Russian- he can pass in many countries really- you ll find Irish, Spaniards, Balkanites and South Germans who look like him

Victor
08-09-2022, 03:41 PM
Kerzhakov looks like lots of Russians from central and southern Russia, Ukrainians too. I think his hair color is the most widespreaded in Russian ethnic majority regions except for Russian North.

Atlantic Reptilian
08-09-2022, 03:57 PM
Kerzhakov looks like lots of Russians from central and southern Russia, Ukrainians too. I think his hair color is the most widespreaded in Russian ethnic majority regions except for Russian North.
Would you say that those russians are mixed or rather unmixed?

Guti
08-09-2022, 03:59 PM
stereotypical Russian because he doesn’t really fit anywhere outside Mother Russia.

Victor
08-09-2022, 04:07 PM
stereotypical Russian because he doesn’t really fit anywhere outside Mother Russia.

Here we would say he looks Tatar. And even Russians looking this way wanna be joked at since childhood that they're "Tatars". Also we have an expression "Tatar beard" for those people who can't grow a beard or have a weak one.

Victor
08-09-2022, 04:08 PM
Would you say that those russians are mixed or rather unmixed?

They're Russians, of typical ones for sure. We have 8+ major anthro types.

Guti
08-09-2022, 04:13 PM
Here we would say he looks Tatar. And even Russians looking this way wanna be joked at since childhood that they're "Tatars". Also we have an expression "Tatar beard" for those people who can't grow a beard or have a weak one.Yeah, he is clearly an ethnic Tatar. But Russian Tatars pass most perfectly only in Mother Russia. That is why he is very stereotypical to his place of birth and that is to the republic of Tatarstan that is part of Volga Federal District in Russia.

Atlantic Reptilian
08-09-2022, 04:16 PM
They're Russians, of typical ones for sure. We have 8+ major anthro types.
Interesting. I think my entire family would be able to pass as Russian then. I have always thought my mom reminded ḿe of Vladimir Putin... She has that serious, Slavic stare. :lol:

Alenka
08-09-2022, 04:20 PM
Not really. His phenotype is much more common among Volga Tatars, who he happens to be.

rothaer
08-09-2022, 06:24 PM
(...)

To me (the ethnic Russian) general and politician Alexander Lebed (+) was a hard core stereotype Russian. In an exaggerated way even, so it doesn't mean that I consider him average.

https://i.imgur.com/n9vd2dC.jpg

And the guy in question is close to this, so I'd say yes.

rothaer
08-09-2022, 06:35 PM
Kerzhakov looks more Pan- European than typical Russian- he can pass in many countries really- you ll find Irish, Spaniards, Balkanites and South Germans who look like him

I agree.

Victor
08-09-2022, 06:44 PM
To me (the ethnic Russian) general and politician Alexander Lebed (+) was a hard core stereotype Russian. In an exaggerated way even, so it doesn't mean that I consider him average.

https://i.imgur.com/n9vd2dC.jpg

And the guy in question is close to this, so I'd say yes.

He used to be a boxer in youth and his nose got heavily deformed aswell.