Oszkar 23andMe Results

[oszkar07]

https://i.imgur.com/Pwfdosv.jpg?2

[dududud]

Great. Is this correct at the kevel if his geanealogy?

[oszkar07]

https://i.imgur.com/sTv5idj.jpg?1

[RenaRyuguu]

NOPE do 24genetics

[oszkar07]

https://i.imgur.com/pkIrEY2.jpg?1

[oszkar07]

https://i.imgur.com/JqicnKj.jpg?1

[oszkar07]

Great. Is this correct at the kevel if his geanealogy?

It correctly picks up my Hungarian and British ancestry and gives me close to even distribution = 29%/30%, although I dont know about the 12.6%
German/French ... Im not aware of specific German or French ancestry but both could be interwoven into either my British or Hungarian side I guess.

[dududud]

https://i.imgur.com/JqicnKj.jpg?1

Good dude. Master race.

[Luke35]

Okay oszk, let's see what we've got here...

1) Is this your beta result? Go to your settings and select that you would like to participate in the beta program, then you will see your results with the latest algorithm.
2) A little surprised to see Spanish, perhaps this is connected to your British side? Or could it be old Balkan ancestry related to your Hungarian, but it's being read incorrectly?
3) Hmmm, a lot of French, German, and Broadly Northwest European - are you being mid-pointed here too???

[Ayetooey]

Okay oszk, let's see what we've got here...

1) Is this your beta result? Go to your settings and select that you would like to participate in the beta program, then you will see your results with the latest algorithm.
2) A little surprised to see Spanish, perhaps this is connected to your British side? Or could it be old Balkan ancestry related to your Hungarian, but it's being read incorrectly?
3) Hmmm, a lot of French, German, and Broadly Northwest European - are you being mid-pointed here too???

I also get a little bit of Spanish, 0.5%; from my maternal/brit side. I think it's the new algorithm.

[Luke35]

That French and German really could be from either side, and I have learned from my mother's results (AncestryDNA, Gedmatch, LukaszM, etc) that it can be a little tricky differentiating German's and Brits, especially Western shifted one's like my mom who have a little actual Brit admix too.

[Luke35]

Have you tried Gedmatch yet with the 23andMe data?

[oszkar07]

Beta Result

https://i.imgur.com/E6cOPSZ.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/eRIZfLG.jpg?1

The Beta changes things slightly ...puts my East Euro % just over my British % but then slightly increases my German/French and Spanish.
I think there is some midpointing in this result , at least I can say they get my Hungarian / British mix , the other stuff plus the trace elements Im not too sure about.

[oszkar07]

Okay oszk, let's see what we've got here...

1) Is this your beta result? Go to your settings and select that you would like to participate in the beta program, then you will see your results with the latest algorithm.
2) A little surprised to see Spanish, perhaps this is connected to your British side? Or could it be old Balkan ancestry related to your Hungarian, but it's being read incorrectly?
3) Hmmm, a lot of French, German, and Broadly Northwest European - are you being mid-pointed here too???



The 4.3 % "Broadly Southern European" result can include the Balkan peninsula according to 23's blurb.
I suspect for me it could be as I get around 5.odd % East Balkan in K36 and also shows up in DnaLand as 21% Balkan, I also wonder is some of the other stuff like the Spanish and Italian could also be patially from Balkan too.
I am pleased they pick up and pinpoint my Hungarian and British side ...which is my known ancestry, otherwise Im dissapointed that there is a lot of broadly or not specifically assigned ancestry components.

[Dick]

Nice result. Congratulations

[oszkar07]

Nice result. Congratulations

Thanks Bro

[oszkar07]

Have you tried Gedmatch yet with the 23andMe data?

Yeh.
Changes a few things a little bit but general theme is same as my ftdna data results.
Some gedmatch results i get on the 23rawdata seem a little more realistic.

[Jana]

Congrats Oskar
I think your German/French is from both sides, because Brits and Hungarians score it as a rule. 23amdme doesnt really do midpointing so I will say it is real

[Cumansky]

Feichy stfu you not no expert in calculators

[Leto]

Yeh.
Changes a few things a little bit but general theme is same as my ftdna data results.
Some gedmatch results i get on the 23rawdata seem a little more realistic.
I'd like to compare your new K13 with the old one

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 38.91
2 Baltic 31.04
3 West_Med 12.32
4 East_Med 8.99
5 West_Asian 4.7
6 Siberian 2.29
7 Red_Sea 1.68
8 Oceanian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 4.22
2 East_German 4.51
3 Hungarian 6.5
4 West_German 9.29
5 North_German 9.67
6 South_Dutch 10.06
7 North_Swedish 10.71
8 Swedish 11.21
9 Croatian 11.88
10 Danish 11.94
11 North_Dutch 12.25
12 South_Polish 12.64
13 Norwegian 12.91
14 Southeast_English 13.09
15 Serbian 13.32
16 Orcadian 13.64
17 Moldavian 13.9
18 Southwest_Finnish 14.27
19 French 14.29
20 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.5

18 68.6% Hungarian + 31.4% Norwegian @ 3.05
19 67.5% Hungarian + 32.5% North_Dutch @ 3.11

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% Swedish @ 3.826166


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_Finnish +25% Tuscan +25% West_Scottish @ 2.323866

[oszkar07]

I'd like to compare your new K13 with the old one

K13 with 23andMe

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 3.38
2 East_German 3.67
3 Hungarian 6.13
4 West_German 9.5
5 North_German 9.93
6 South_Dutch 10.22
7 North_Swedish 11.09
8 Croatian 11.11
9 Swedish 11.49
10 South_Polish 12.23
11 Danish 12.39
12 North_Dutch 12.56
13 Serbian 12.91
14 Moldavian 13.17
15 Norwegian 13.28
16 Southeast_English 13.53
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.76
18 Orcadian 14.02
19 French 14.24
20 Southwest_Finnish 14.49


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% South_Dutch +50% South_Polish @ 3.214728


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Austrian +25% Finnish +25% French @ 2.164923


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Estonian_Polish + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Tuscan @ 1.851108
2 North_Swedish + Norwegian + Russian_Smolensk + Tuscan @ 1.859344
3 Belorussian + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Tuscan @ 1.869463
4 Belorussian + North_Dutch + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 1.885383
5 North_Swedish + Polish + Swedish + Tuscan @ 1.917831

[Leto]

K13 with 23andMe

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 3.38
2 East_German 3.67
3 Hungarian 6.13
4 West_German 9.5
5 North_German 9.93
6 South_Dutch 10.22
7 North_Swedish 11.09
8 Croatian 11.11
9 Swedish 11.49
10 South_Polish 12.23
11 Danish 12.39
12 North_Dutch 12.56
13 Serbian 12.91
14 Moldavian 13.17
15 Norwegian 13.28
16 Southeast_English 13.53
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.76
18 Orcadian 14.02
19 French 14.24
20 Southwest_Finnish 14.49


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% South_Dutch +50% South_Polish @ 3.214728


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Austrian +25% Finnish +25% French @ 2.164923


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Estonian_Polish + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Tuscan @ 1.851108
2 North_Swedish + Norwegian + Russian_Smolensk + Tuscan @ 1.859344
3 Belorussian + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Tuscan @ 1.869463
4 Belorussian + North_Dutch + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 1.885383
5 North_Swedish + Polish + Swedish + Tuscan @ 1.917831
I was specifically interested in the admixture, sorry.

[oszkar07]

I was specifically interested in the admixture, sorry.

23andMe K13 single oracle

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.1% French + 42.9% Belorussian @ 2.36
2 82% Austrian + 18% North_Swedish @ 2.4
3 86.1% Austrian + 13.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.47
4 65% South_Dutch + 35% Southwest_Russian @ 2.49
5 65.3% South_Dutch + 34.7% Belorussian @ 2.54
6 65.5% South_Dutch + 34.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.56
7 67.1% West_German + 32.9% Belorussian @ 2.6
8 67.3% West_German + 32.7% Estonian_Polish @ 2.63
9 90% Austrian + 10% Finnish @ 2.63
10 64.9% South_Dutch + 35.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.65
11 91.5% Austrian + 8.5% East_Finnish @ 2.71
12 91.7% Austrian + 8.3% La_Brana-1 @ 2.73
13 54.8% South_Dutch + 45.2% South_Polish @ 2.76
14 66.8% West_German + 33.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.78
15 62.2% French + 37.8% Lithuanian @ 2.79
16 57.8% South_Dutch + 42.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.82
17 56.7% French + 43.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.85
18 65.7% South_Dutch + 34.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.87
19 91.9% Austrian + 8.1% Estonian @ 2.88
20 59% French + 41% Estonian @ 2.88

[Luke35]

The 4.3 % "Broadly Southern European" result can include the Balkan peninsula according to 23's blurb.
I suspect for me it could be as I get around 5.odd % East Balkan in K36 and also shows up in DnaLand as 21% Balkan, I also wonder is some of the other stuff like the Spanish and Italian could also be patially from Balkan too.
I am pleased they pick up and pinpoint my Hungarian and British side ...which is my known ancestry, otherwise Im dissapointed that there is a lot of broadly or not specifically assigned ancestry components.

Imo the majority of your southern European result is Hungarian related. My first cousin on my mom's (my uncle's kid), who's ancestry is half Scottish, half German, scores no South European, almost no East European, and almost no broadly European. As far as I'm concerned, your Hungarian is represented here by 25% East Euro, 8% South Euro, 8% Broadly European, 4.5% French and German, 4.5% NW European.

[Luke35]

My observation is that on 23andMe, full NW Euros generally don't score (very minimal) southern, eastern, or broadly European. They do score a lot of Broadly NW European. I wonder if you really do have distant German ancestry? Any clues in the family tree? How are the British region assignments for you, accurate?

[oszkar07]

Imo the majority of your southern European result is Hungarian related. My first cousin on my mom's (my uncle's kid), who's ancestry is half Scottish, half German, scores no South European, almost no East European, and almost no broadly European. As far as I'm concerned, your Hungarian is represented here by 25% East Euro, 8% South Euro, 8% Broadly European, 4.5% French and German, 4.5% NW European.

Yes I think that is a reasonable estimation.
I have not heard about any French or German or Southern European ancestors.
I would guess that the British side and Hungarian side present more than 25%/24% each ...I think as you say other components are also connected to these in the broader sense. Im definitly more than 1 quarter British and 1 quarter Hungarian.... this is also demonstrated in Gedmatch and other calculator results too.

[oszkar07]

My observation is that on 23andMe, full NW Euros generally don't score (very minimal) southern, eastern, or broadly European. They do score a lot of Broadly NW European. I wonder if you really do have distant German ancestry? Any clues in the family tree? How are the British region assignments for you, accurate?

Most probably do have distant German for sure ... the question is just how distant ...but I am not aware of any specific German ancestors. But many Brits and many Hungarians do have distant Germanic.
British regions ...I know my maternal Grandparents came from outer London Middlesex and think was some ancestors around Kent . Also that there were some ancestors from Dublin by way of maternal Grandmother ...not aware of the other regions they mentioned.

How do they assign specific regions in countries ... is it based on matches ?

[calxpal]

Intriguing results, thanks for sharing :).

[Luke35]

Most probably do have distant German for sure ... the question is just how distant ...but I am not aware of any specific German ancestors. But many Brits and many Hungarians do have distant Germanic.
British regions ...I know my maternal Grandparents came from outer London Middlesex and think was some ancestors around Kent . Also that there were some ancestors from Dublin by way of maternal Grandmother ...not aware of the other regions they mentioned.

How do they assign specific regions in countries ... is it based on matches ?

I have never been very clear on just how they assign the regions. I remember 23andMe has something on their site about the process. Perhaps someone here knows and can describe in layman's terms exactly what 23andMe does to achieve these assignments. They did great with mine, German and Hungarian. And like you I get Poland as well. Do all Hungarians score Poland?

[Lucas]

Congrats:)