How I2 came to Poland

[Dick]

Rascianie (od nazwy Raszka - wczesnośredniowiecznego państwa
serbskiego) czyli po staropolsku Serbowie, byli protoplastami polskiej
husarii i to oni zapoczątkowali dwustuletnią historię tej formacji.




https://youtu.be/11vvjQ9uUj0

[Cumansky]

Lol

Ima watch this video after to properly decode facts and lies about us but already typical Serbocentric propaganda in first minute, this world revolve only around Serbs DKM

[Bellbeaking]

One horny dick spread it everywhere

[Ayetooey]

Lol

Ima watch this video after to properly decode facts and lies about us but already typical Serbocentric propaganda in first minute, this world revolve only around Serbs DKM

I have a ethnic Pole from Belarus as a Y dna match; he say's his ancestor was documented as being a Serb from Kosovo who fled north. This guy has Serb Y dna matches only; he is ph908.

[PaleoEuropean]

Great Serbian Vikings

[Cumansky]

One horny dick spread it everywhere

Fuck outta here bellbeaker, don't even speak

[Dick]

Lol

Ima watch this video after to properly decode facts and lies about us but already typical Serbocentric propaganda in first minute, this world revolve only around Serbs DKM

You're welcome.

[Ayetooey]

One horny dick spread it everywhere

I2 men treated women with respect and seduced them; unlike R1 who resorted to brute force.

[Cumansky]

I have a ethnic Pole from Belarus as a Y dna match; he say's his ancestor was documented as being a Serb from Kosovo who fled north. This guy has Serb Y dna matches only; he is ph908.

Not many in Belarus are PH908, that is pre Yugoslavia marker to my knowledge

[Cumansky]

You're welcome.

You don't know Polish history stfu

[Ayetooey]

Not many in Belarus are PH908, that is pre Yugoslavia marker to my knowledge

It's probably Thracian.

[Dick]

I have a ethnic Pole from Belarus as a Y dna match; he say's his ancestor was documented as being a Serb from Kosovo who fled north. This guy has Serb Y dna matches only; he is ph908.

Nice. I have a Polish match from Silesia but he's I1. 23/25 marker match.

[Cumansky]

It's probably Thracian.

Vlachs are extension of Dacians (Thracian subrace north of Danube in modern Romania that resisted Roman Empire) PH908 have same origin us as but almost 2 millenias of separated history within Roman Empire.

Our genetic changed we incorporated Turkic tribes Jasz, Cumans, Huns, Pechenegs, etc in Romania. Your people incorporated some of the same tribes but much more Mediterraneans in Yugoslavia. That is why we are little bit different now.

[jingorex]

it looked like this!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxKIhFfB4rE

[Ayetooey]

Vlachs are extension of Dacians (Thracian subrace north of Danube in modern Romania that resisted Roman Empire) PH908 have same origin us as but almost 2 millenias of separated history within Roman Empire.

Our genetic changed we incorporated Turkic tribes Jasz, Cumans, Huns, Pechenegs, etc in Romania. Your people incorporated some of the same tribes but much more Mediterraneans in Yugoslavia. That is why we are little bit different now.

Ph908 in Serbs probably comes from the Thracian tribe known as the Triballi. Triballian" was synonym to "Serbian"in the early middle ages. We are all brothers with ancient roots
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triballi

[Cumansky]

Ph908 in Serbs probably comes from the Thracian tribe known as the Triballi. Triballian" was synonym to "Serbian"in the early middle ages. We are all brothers with ancient roots
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triballi

Yes ancient brat from time

[Dick]

it looked like this!


If you are listening to this in 2019 , we are friends.


https://youtu.be/0F0CAEoF4XM

[MagnusDark]

Ph908 in Serbs probably comes from the Thracian tribe known as the Triballi. Triballian" was synonym to "Serbian"in the early middle ages. We are all brothers with ancient roots
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triballi

That’s improbable. Almost all I2a1b-Din falls under Y3120 which descends from ONE man that lived around 200BC.

PH908 all descends from ONE man 200AD. There were no more Thracians at this point really. Almost entirely romanized.

One would have quite the task of contradiction and manipulation to explain how one man in 200BC could have possibly had all his sons sprouting from him be part of so many ancient cultures that proceeded even his self.

Regardless of what it was, the only surviving descendant was likely already Proto Slavic and his descendants boomed during the migration.

This is evident in all clades, paleo Balkan and otherwise that have Slavic clusters, uniform TMRCAs etc.

[Cumansky]

That’s improbable. Almost all I2a1b-Din falls under Y3120 which descends from ONE man that lived around 200BC.

PH908 all descends from ONE man 200AD. There were no more Thracians at this point really. Almost entirely romanized.

One would have quite the task of contradiction and manipulation to explain how one man in 200BC could have possibly had all his sons sprouting from him be part of so many ancient cultures that proceeded even his self.

Regardless of what it was, the only surviving descendant was likely already Proto Slavic and his descendants boomed during the migration.

This is evident in all clades, paleo Balkan and otherwise that have Slavic clusters, uniform TMRCAs etc.

Very interesting, Ok I give you a chance, in one sentence sum up your statement.

All I heard "blahblahblah, half truth, 150 words Albanian fear tactics"

[MagnusDark]

Very interesting, Ok I give you a chance, in one sentence sum up your statement.

All I heard "blahblahblah, half truth, 150 words Albanian fear tactics"

Albanian fear tactics? Lol ok there ya door knob.

All I2a1b men alive came from one man. Nearly 100 percent of his descendants are Slavic. It’s a Slavic line. One man. Not a group of men. But one man. Same for R1a clades associated with expansion including other haplos.

You also don’t know anything about genetics so don’t comment. I’m only amateur in this discipline, and this is the consensus amongst far more learned men.

[Cumansky]

Albanian fear tactics? Lol ok there ya door knob.

All I2a1b men alive came from one man. Nearly 100 percent of his descendants are Slavic. It’s a Slavic line. One man. Not a group of men. But one man. Same for R1a clades associated with expansion including other haplos.

You also don’t know anything about genetics so don’t comment. I’m only amateur in this discipline, and this is the consensus amongst far more learned men.

You waste my nigga you been on these websites for years still didn't learn nothing, bounce from here this Polish and I2 thread

[MagnusDark]

You waste my nigga you been on these websites for years still didn't learn nothing, bounce from here this Polish and I2 thread

Ok there keyboard warrior. You’re the one who needs to learn genetics. You’re clearly not qualified to run your mouth. Tell me how I2 are Atlantians or some such nonsense instead of accepting reality.

[Cumansky]

Ok there keyboard warrior. You’re the one who needs to learn genetics. You’re clearly not qualified to run your mouth. Tell me how I2 are Atlantians or some such nonsense instead of accepting reality.

Lol keyboard Thracian, and what is the reality?

[Dick]

Dear thread participants,

Formal reminder that this thread is being watched so keep it civil or 5 minute ban for both of you.

High five,
Dick

[Cumansky]

Dick out here trying be the puppetmaster not on Vlach watch

[MagnusDark]

Lol keyboard Thracian, and what is the reality?

The reality is that your earliest surviving ancestor was Proto-Slavic(assuming you are Y3120), as was mine(L1029*). Don't like it, shouldn't have got a DNA test.

[Ülev]

Does Bosniensis confirm that?

[Ülev]

fun fact from south-east R1a neighbor
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?295993-R1a-RATHA-YATRA-IN-KIEV-UKRAINE

[Lucas]

Rascianie (od nazwy Raszka - wczesnośredniowiecznego państwa
serbskiego) czyli po staropolsku Serbowie, byli protoplastami polskiej
husarii i to oni zapoczątkowali dwustuletnią historię tej formacji.




https://youtu.be/11vvjQ9uUj0

Approved

[Cumansky]

The reality is that your earliest surviving ancestor was Proto-Slavic(assuming you are Y3120), as was mine(L1029*). Don't like it, shouldn't have got a DNA test.

We keep records of this, what you think we are Albanians or something? Don't make me laugh

What is my Y-DNA have to do with yours? Your marker is important for history of Steppe migrations than mine, no doubt. You are Slavic complexed person I tell you this many times, still I wouldn't call your marker Slavic too many Germans carrying that, give it some time and more testers before you accurately define yourself.

[Cumansky]

Approved

This has nothing to do with I2 Dinaric North.

Maybe has more with R1A, or maybe we take their womans, it wouldn't be first time for me.

[Dick]

Approved
Dziekuje. Moj awatar wygląda jak typowy polski szlachcic z początku XVII wieku.

[MagnusDark]

We keep records of this, what you think we are Albanians or something? Don't make me laugh

What is my Y-DNA have to do with yours? Your marker is important for history of Steppe migrations than mine, no doubt. You are Slavic complexed person I tell you this many times, still I wouldn't call your marker Slavic too many Germans carrying that, give it some time and more testers before you accurately define yourself.

I am not Slavic complexed. Many users here would actually claim I am the opposite. Facts are facts though. Of course knowledge evolves, but I don't see the changes being monumental enough to deny these lineages connection to Prot-Slavic tribes.

Actually, west euro test more than east and south. It makes sense we have more samples from these regions given the over abundance of testers. Of course Central europe is pretty well tested too. All the medieval samples of yours and my line(albeit post migration) carry significant Slavic or Polish like admixture.

If actual evidence proves the official narrative wrong I will amend my position. However, currently its the only one supported with any evidence. This doesn't make us Slavic though. For instance I form an Albanian line under L1029, with the ancestor living 1200ypb. So my ancestor was participating in Albanian ethnogenesis. His ancestor was likely Proto-Slavic(or whatever they labeled themselves). Some label the Neuri as Proto-Slavic, and they shared cultural elements with Dacians but were not kin. Sure enough Proto-Slavs occupied the northern border of Dacian territory. Even the Sporoi were believed to be the ancestors of the Slavic tribes. These could be Proto-Slavs. All indo europeans share alot of cultural aspects.

[PaleoEuropean]

If you are listening to this in 2019 , we are friends.


https://youtu.be/0F0CAEoF4XM

Meanwhile I am out here with no chill lighten these niggaz up like a blunt


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuapp9SORA

[PaleoEuropean]

Dear thread participants,

Formal reminder that this thread is being watched so keep it civil or 5 minute ban for both of you.

High five,
Dick

Dear Dick

Sorry for the pain an harm I have caused to girly men

I see the errors of my ways and seek to make amends

Sincerely, your friend who is most sincere and friendly in friendship, your pal who is most sincere and sendeth this messageth in sincerity and friendly,

Tom From Myspace

https://i.imgur.com/fHAvMtd.png

[Lucas]

Dziekuje. Moj awatar wygląda jak typowy polski szlachcic z początku XVII wieku.

I was affraid to ask if it is true. Thanks for that. You are a legend.

[Peterski]

I'm not sure about I2, but my subclade of R1b came with the Romans or with Romanized Gauls?:

http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html

https://i.imgur.com/7p1jozC.png

^^^ Roman legions or Celtic refugees?: http://archaeologyinbulgaria.com/2018/05/10/first-ever-traces-of-roman-military-presence-in-poland-discovered-by-archaeologists-in-kujawy-region/

[Lucas]

Dear thread participants,

Formal reminder that this thread is being watched so keep it civil or 5 minute ban for both of you.

High five,
Dick

http://blog.surgepolonia.pl/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/421576_476405779073213_545188317_n1.jpg

[Dick]

I'm not sure about I2, but my subclade of R1b came with the Romans or with Romanized Gauls?:

http://scaledinnovation.com/gg/snpTracker.html

https://i.imgur.com/7p1jozC.png

^^^ Roman legions or Celtic refugees?: http://archaeologyinbulgaria.com/2018/05/10/first-ever-traces-of-roman-military-presence-in-poland-discovered-by-archaeologists-in-kujawy-region/

It's not as complex as you think. The reason why it ends up in Poland is because you're the Yfull sample connected to that subclade. The tool uses samples from Yfull and it's also going by TMRCA(in your case Roma era) which means nothing until you get a closer match on Yfull. So in other words, it dosnt mean it's from some Roman legionnaire or a Celt but possibly some other recent ethnicity that's not Polish

[Peterski]

The reason why it ends up in Poland is because you're the Yfull sample connected to that subclade.

Of course, because outside of Poland nobody has it (or at least nobody among people who have tested their DNA).


So in other words, it dosnt mean it's from some Roman legionnaire or a Celt but possibly some other recent ethnicity that's not Polish

Then I would probably have some close matches among Non-Polish testees, and I don't have such close matches.

[Dick]

Of course, because outside of Poland nobody has it (or at least nobody among people who have tested their DNA).



Then I would probably have some close matches among Non-Polish testees, and I don't have such close matches.

Neither do I and a lot of people as well plus not everyone does deep testing or submits their sample to Yfull so it's just speculation for now.

[PaleoEuropean]

This is how I2 came to Poland


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP8KjbXuP8Y

[Dick]

This is how I2 came to Poland


Love hurts broski



https://youtu.be/My2FRPA3Gf8