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karakartal
08-06-2019, 07:14 PM
Hello there. I try many population combinations in G25 but i still don't find my father's best close distance. Most close distance is 1.7 and still don't good for modern populations. My father's knownly ancestry is Balkan Turk.

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Burak_scaled,0.118376,0.110693,0.008674,-0.010982,0.005539,0,0.00235,0.004384,-0.001432,-0.000182,0.002273,-0.003747,0.001784,0.006055,-0.018322,0.008751,0.020601,-0.009502,-0.000503,0.003001,-0.009608,0.004204,0.001479,0.001205,0.000239

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Burak,0.0104,0.0109,0.0023,-0.0034,0.0018,0,0.001,0.0019,-0.0007,-0.0001,0.0014,-0.0025,0.0012,0.0044,-0.0135,0.0066,0.0158,-0.0075,-0.0004,0.0024,-0.0077,0.0034,0.0012,0.001,0.0002

I need your help about this.

Thanks

Ayetooey
08-06-2019, 07:26 PM
edit: nvm

karakartal
08-06-2019, 07:28 PM
Your coordinates aren't working for me.
try this

scaled;
Burak_scaled,0.118376,0.110693,0.008674,-0.010982,0.005539,0,0.00235,0.004384,-0.001432,-0.000182,0.002273,-0.003747,0.001784,0.006055,-0.018322,0.008751,0.020601,-0.009502,-0.000503,0.003001,-0.009608,0.004204,0.001479,0.001205,0.000239

unscaled;
Burak,0.0104,0.0109,0.0023,-0.0034,0.0018,0,0.001,0.0019,-0.0007,-0.0001,0.0014,-0.0025,0.0012,0.0044,-0.0135,0.0066,0.0158,-0.0075,-0.0004,0.0024,-0.0077,0.0034,0.0012,0.001,0.0002

Ayetooey
08-06-2019, 07:28 PM
try this

scaled;
Burak_scaled,0.118376,0.110693,0.008674,-0.010982,0.005539,0,0.00235,0.004384,-0.001432,-0.000182,0.002273,-0.003747,0.001784,0.006055,-0.018322,0.008751,0.020601,-0.009502,-0.000503,0.003001,-0.009608,0.004204,0.001479,0.001205,0.000239

unscaled;
Burak,0.0104,0.0109,0.0023,-0.0034,0.0018,0,0.001,0.0019,-0.0007,-0.0001,0.0014,-0.0025,0.0012,0.0044,-0.0135,0.0066,0.0158,-0.0075,-0.0004,0.0024,-0.0077,0.0034,0.0012,0.001,0.0002

I got it working now. I'll have a look. What pops did you use to get your best fit?

karakartal
08-06-2019, 07:29 PM
I got it working now. I'll have a look. What pops did you use to get your best fit?

Macedonian+Turkish_Istanbul=distance 1.7

Ayetooey
08-06-2019, 07:40 PM
Macedonian+Turkish_Istanbul=distance 1.7

I can't get anything closer atm but what's wrong with that fit it seems accurate enough for his ancestry and 1.7 is pretty close.

karakartal
08-06-2019, 07:44 PM
I don't know. Because i have Balkan Turk coordinates (Kaspias and Thracian) they have good fit against my father.

Kaspias
08-06-2019, 07:45 PM
I don't know. Because i have Balkan Turk coordinates (Kaspias and Thracian) they have good fit against my father.

Thracian has good fit, my fit is not very good just like your father. Seems something is lacking but i couldn't figure it out too

karakartal
08-06-2019, 07:48 PM
Thracian has good fit, my fit is not very good just like your father. Seems something is lacking but i couldn't figure it out too

You have Siberian ancestry maybe this thing you don't have fit not good.

Kaspias
08-06-2019, 07:54 PM
You have Siberian ancestry maybe this thing you don't have fit not good.

I don't have Siberian ancestry i have Turk ancestry lol, i model with both Turkmen and Nogai but it still doesn't work

Ayetooey
08-06-2019, 07:54 PM
I brought it down a bit.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491704559228551192/608387284370456597/unknown.png

karakartal
08-06-2019, 07:57 PM
I brought it down a bit.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491704559228551192/608387284370456597/unknown.png

yeah very good. i think we will finally find good fits.

Ayetooey
08-06-2019, 07:58 PM
yeah very good. i think we will finally find good fits.

And lower. This is on 0.0 not 0.1.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491704559228551192/608388237265993749/unknown.png

karakartal
08-06-2019, 08:02 PM
I try to unscaled one and macedonian+turkmen+greek central anatolia fit is 1.0

karakartal
08-07-2019, 07:11 AM
Davidski told me this:
His ancestry is mostly from the Balkans and from Anatolia, but he also probably has minor Roma and Tatar ancestry. The potentially interesting thing is that the best matches for his Anatolian ancestry are Greeks from Central Anatolia and Turks from Aydin, which is a former Greek province. So he probably has a lot of Anatolian Greek ancestry, like many Turks do.

[1] "distance%=2.3721"

Burak_scaled

Macedonian,46
Greek_Central_Anatolia,23
Anatolia_Ottoman,10.8
Bosnian,10.8
Roma,5.4
Cypriot,2
Tatar_Kazan,2

Kaspias
08-07-2019, 09:14 AM
Davidski told me this:
His ancestry is mostly from the Balkans and from Anatolia, but he also probably has minor Roma and Tatar ancestry. The potentially interesting thing is that the best matches for his Anatolian ancestry are Greeks from Central Anatolia and Turks from Aydin, which is a former Greek province. So he probably has a lot of Anatolian Greek ancestry, like many Turks do.

[1] "distance%=2.3721"

Burak_scaled

Macedonian,46
Greek_Central_Anatolia,23
Anatolia_Ottoman,10.8
Bosnian,10.8
Roma,5.4
Cypriot,2
Tatar_Kazan,2

Totally wrong

karakartal
08-07-2019, 09:25 AM
Totally wrong

What is your comment?

Kaspias
08-07-2019, 10:47 AM
What is your comment?

https://i.ibb.co/G3XXyLP/Ads-z.png
https://i.ibb.co/ZGHmktb/2.png

karakartal
08-07-2019, 11:04 AM
https://i.ibb.co/G3XXyLP/Ads-z.png
https://i.ibb.co/ZGHmktb/2.png

i use gedmatch, custom calculators, g25, yourdnaportal, k36 report etc.
we try to make balkan turk pca and genetic work. because jt's their calculators and pca maps very different for our ancestry.

in dodecad k12b; my 4 oracle is sorb+cyprian etc etc that's a bullshit. i'm not a sorb or cyprian or anything.

commercial test is more accurate for me any others.

karakartal
08-08-2019, 09:16 PM
i found my father's best fit
roma+tatar_siberian+macedonian+greek_trabzon
pen:0.001
distance:1.5