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CommonSense
08-07-2019, 07:11 PM
The woman in question listed her ancestry as being from Plav (father's side) and Cetinje (mother's side), though anything more than that was not given. Seems to be in the standard, though noticeably western shifted, Serbian range, but sadly the test was done with the new FTDNA chip which gives a lot less SNPs than the one I tested with, so it's hard to draw any concrete conclusions.

EUROGENES K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 27.17
2 Baltic 25.94
3 East_Med 20.36
4 West_Med 19.07
5 West_Asian 5.13
6 Siberian 1.57
7 Red_Sea 0.39
8 Oceanian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 6.68
2 Romanian 6.84
3 Bulgarian 8.01
4 Moldavian 12.51
5 Hungarian 12.65
6 Greek_Thessaly 13.77
7 Croatian 13.97
8 North_Italian 14.7
9 Austrian 14.8
10 Tuscan 15.98
11 East_German 16.49
12 French 17.8
13 West_German 18
14 Portuguese 18.56
15 Spanish_Galicia 19.2
16 South_Dutch 19.35
17 Italian_Abruzzo 19.58
18 Spanish_Cataluna 19.61
19 West_Sicilian 20.01
20 Spanish_Extremadura 20.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.9% Tuscan + 37.1% Estonian_Polish @ 4.54
2 63.3% Tuscan + 36.7% Belorussian @ 4.56
3 61.1% Tuscan + 38.9% Southwest_Russian @ 4.66
4 67.1% Tuscan + 32.9% Lithuanian @ 4.72
5 57.4% Tuscan + 42.6% Ukrainian @ 4.8
6 63% Tuscan + 37% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.08
7 66.4% Tuscan + 33.6% Estonian @ 5.14
8 56.5% Tuscan + 43.5% South_Polish @ 5.17
9 89.7% Serbian + 10.3% Sardinian @ 5.19
10 60.8% West_Sicilian + 39.2% Estonian @ 5.21
11 62% Tuscan + 38% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.27
12 60.8% Tuscan + 39.2% Polish @ 5.37
13 53.9% Croatian + 46.1% Tuscan @ 5.39
14 50.4% West_Sicilian + 49.6% South_Polish @ 5.39
15 64.9% Tuscan + 35.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.41
16 57.7% West_Sicilian + 42.3% Belorussian @ 5.52
17 51.4% West_Sicilian + 48.6% Ukrainian @ 5.52
18 56.6% Tuscan + 43.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.56
19 80.2% Serbian + 19.8% Tuscan @ 5.57
20 67.3% Tuscan + 32.7% East_Finnish @ 5.58

EUROGENES K15


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 18.33
2 Atlantic 18.25
3 East_Med 17.34
4 North_Sea 17.2
5 West_Med 14.72
6 Eastern_Euro 9.03
7 West_Asian 3.78
8 Siberian 0.77
9 Red_Sea 0.51
10 Oceanian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 8.18
2 Romanian 8.24
3 Bulgarian 8.56
4 Austrian 12.05
5 Hungarian 12.23
6 Moldavian 12.36
7 Croatian 12.49
8 Greek_Thessaly 13.12
9 Greek 13.74
10 North_Italian 13.9
11 Tuscan 14.8
12 East_German 15.95
13 Spanish_Galicia 17.19
14 Portuguese 17.29
15 Spanish_Cataluna 17.37
16 French 17.43
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.01
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.02
19 Italian_Abruzzo 18.14
20 Spanish_Extremadura 18.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.1% Tuscan + 34.9% Lithuanian @ 5.25
2 62.1% Tuscan + 37.9% Belorussian @ 5.71
3 50.6% West_Sicilian + 49.4% Ukrainian @ 5.84
4 58.4% West_Sicilian + 41.6% Estonian @ 5.94
5 64.2% Tuscan + 35.8% Estonian @ 5.97
6 56.7% Tuscan + 43.3% Ukrainian @ 5.99
7 62.4% Tuscan + 37.6% Estonian_Polish @ 6
8 59.6% West_Sicilian + 40.4% Lithuanian @ 6.02
9 50% West_Sicilian + 50% South_Polish @ 6.07
10 53.7% Hungarian + 46.3% Greek @ 6.08
11 53.1% West_Sicilian + 46.9% Polish @ 6.09
12 50.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 49.5% West_Sicilian @ 6.14
13 59.3% Tuscan + 40.7% Polish @ 6.18
14 56.2% Tuscan + 43.8% South_Polish @ 6.23
15 60.2% Tuscan + 39.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 6.23
16 55.8% Tuscan + 44.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6.25
17 61.5% Tuscan + 38.5% Southwest_Russian @ 6.27
18 63.6% Greek + 36.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 6.29
19 56.3% West_Sicilian + 43.7% Belorussian @ 6.37
20 61.6% Croatian + 38.4% West_Sicilian @ 6.37

Ayetooey
08-07-2019, 07:19 PM
Her baltic and west Asian are both on the low side; her north atlantic around Serb average, and west med is quite high. On k15 she's very west shifted; it's the extremely low west asian once again. Even mine is higher.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491704559228551192/608740210141822989/unknown.png

Dick
08-07-2019, 07:27 PM
Her baltic and west Asian are both on the low side; her north atlantic around Serb average, and west med is quite high. On k15 she's very west shifted; it's the extremely low west asian once again. Even mine is higher.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491704559228551192/608740210141822989/unknown.png

Nice result looks typical Balkan

Lucas
08-07-2019, 07:37 PM
The woman in question listed her ancestry as being from Plav (father's side) and Cetinje (mother's side), though anything more than that was not given. Seems to be in the standard, though noticeably western shifted, Serbian range, but sadly the test was done with the new FTDNA chip which gives a lot less SNPs than the one I tested with, so it's hard to draw any concrete conclusions.
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There aren't any Gedmatch calcs with Montenegrin average? I think MDLP K23b has it. What she has using it?

Dick
08-07-2019, 07:39 PM
There aren't any Gedmatch calcs with Montenegrin average? I think MDLP K23b has it. What she has using it?

mldp k16

CommonSense
08-07-2019, 07:47 PM
There aren't any Gedmatch calcs with Montenegrin average? I think MDLP K23b has it. What she has using it?

puntDNAL K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 44.56
2 Mediterranean 33.13
3 Caucasian 13.21
4 SW_Asian 6.75
5 Beringian 0.92
6 E_Asian 0.62
7 Oceanian 0.36
8 Wht_Nile_River 0.21
9 Siberian 0.12
10 S_African 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Macedonian 4.5
2 Romanian 4.82
3 Bulgarian 5.48
4 Bosnian 5.51
5 Serbian 5.51
6 Montenegrin 7.01
7 French 7.25
8 South_German 8.96
9 Italian 9.35
10 Utahn_White 9.7
11 Croatian 9.98
12 Spaniard 11.42
13 Hungarian 11.67
14 Austrian 12.23
15 Irish 12.49
16 English 12.7
17 Slovenian 12.89
18 Orcadian 13.12
19 Portuguese 13.7
20 Greek_Thessaly 14.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.4% Austrian + 45.6% Albanian @ 2.2
2 77.9% English + 22.1% Samaritian @ 2.24
3 64.4% Montenegrin + 35.6% Austrian @ 2.26
4 82.3% Utahn_White + 17.7% Samaritian @ 2.28
5 83.6% South_German + 16.4% Samaritian @ 2.35
6 75.5% Scottish + 24.5% Samaritian @ 2.37
7 59.7% Albanian + 40.3% Polish @ 2.41
8 74.2% Romanian + 25.8% Austrian @ 2.42
9 88% French + 12% Bedouin_A @ 2.42
10 76.4% Montenegrin + 23.6% Polish @ 2.44
11 82.5% Montenegrin + 17.5% Lithuanian @ 2.46
12 57.1% Italian + 42.9% Austrian @ 2.48
13 57.3% Austrian + 42.7% Tuscan @ 2.5
14 80.6% Montenegrin + 19.4% Belarusian @ 2.5
15 84.2% South_German + 15.8% Druze @ 2.51
16 71.1% Bulgarian + 28.9% Austrian @ 2.51
17 70.9% Montenegrin + 29.1% Norwegian @ 2.52
18 73.7% Montenegrin + 26.3% Swedish @ 2.53
19 83.8% Romanian + 16.2% Polish @ 2.54
20 79.5% Romanian + 20.5% Norwegian @ 2.54

puntDNAL K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 38.91
2 NE_Europe 36.85
3 West_Asia 15.19
4 SW_Asia 5.93
5 Siberia 2
6 Oceania 0.73
7 South_Africa 0.22
8 West_Africa 0.14
9 NE_Asia 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.25
2 Macedonian 5.94
3 Montenegrin 6.18
4 Bulgarian 6.94
5 French 7.88
6 Bosnian 8.01
7 Italian_Bergamo 8.15
8 Romanian 8.19
9 Croatian 8.24
10 German_South 9.59
11 Spaniard 10.22
12 Kosovar 10.39
13 Belgian 10.49
14 Italian_Tuscan 10.52
15 Moldavian 10.74
16 Hungarian 10.75
17 Albanian 11.28
18 Slovene 11.81
19 Greek_Thessaly 12.14
20 English 12.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.8% French + 19.2% Balkar @ 1.92
2 77.5% Italian_Bergamo + 22.5% Mordovian @ 2.22
3 83% French + 17% Ossetian @ 2.23
4 83.7% French + 16.3% Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 2.41
5 80.5% French + 19.5% Turkish_Aydin @ 2.45
6 54.3% German_South + 45.7% Albanian @ 2.45
7 55.7% Italian_Tuscan + 44.3% Scottish @ 2.49
8 82.3% French + 17.7% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.5
9 52.5% German_South + 47.5% Italian_Tuscan @ 2.56
10 84.1% French + 15.9% Abkhasian @ 2.6
11 81% French + 19% Turkish @ 2.6
12 65.7% German_South + 34.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.6
13 56.8% Italian_Tuscan + 43.2% Orcadian @ 2.62
14 71.6% German_South + 28.4% Italian_Sicilian @ 2.63
15 85.3% French + 14.7% Turkish_Trabzon @ 2.63
16 57.7% Italian_Tuscan + 42.3% Irish @ 2.64
17 83.6% French + 16.4% Dagestan_Azeri @ 2.66
18 56.2% German_South + 43.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.66
19 54.1% Italian_Tuscan + 45.9% English @ 2.72
20 52.1% German_South + 47.9% Kosovar @ 2.76

MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 32.87
2 Caucasian 31.7
3 European_Early_Farmers 26.42
4 Near_East 3.99
5 Arctic 1.35
6 Melano_Polynesian 1.13
7 African_Pygmy 0.95
8 Ancestral_Altaic 0.87
9 South_Indian 0.54
10 Archaic_Human 0.1
11 East_Siberian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_North ( ) 8.29
2 Serb_Serbia ( ) 8.42
3 Italian_Tuscan ( ) 9.29
4 Montenegrian ( ) 9.51
5 Italian_Piedmont ( ) 9.7
6 Kosovar ( ) 10.04
7 Greek_Northwest ( ) 10.38
8 Italian_Abruzzo ( ) 10.64
9 Croat ( ) 10.98
10 Serb_BH ( ) 11.01
11 Bulgarian ( ) 11.28
12 Macedonian ( ) 11.3
13 Slovenian ( ) 11.39
14 Austrian ( ) 11.64
15 Hungarian ( ) 11.7
16 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 12
17 Bosnian ( ) 12.13
18 Sicilian_West ( ) 12.25
19 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 12.26
20 Croat_BH ( ) 13.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.7% Croat ( ) + 17.3% Sardinian ( ) @ 3.53
2 84.9% Montenegrian ( ) + 15.1% Sardinian ( ) @ 3.57
3 82.7% Serb_BH ( ) + 17.3% Sardinian ( ) @ 3.63
4 57.6% Croat ( ) + 42.4% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 3.75
5 79.9% Croat_BH ( ) + 20.1% Sardinian ( ) @ 3.84
6 57.6% Serb_BH ( ) + 42.4% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 3.88
7 71.9% Italian_Piedmont ( ) + 28.1% Pole ( ) @ 3.9
8 53.6% Italian_Piedmont ( ) + 46.4% Croat ( ) @ 3.93
9 52.8% Croat_BH ( ) + 47.2% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 3.97
10 74.5% Italian_Piedmont ( ) + 25.5% Belarusian_Russian ( ) @ 3.98
11 86.6% Macedonian ( ) + 13.4% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 3.98
12 74.6% Italian_Piedmont ( ) + 25.4% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) @ 3.98
13 67.5% Macedonian ( ) + 32.5% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) @ 4.04
14 61.8% Montenegrian ( ) + 38.2% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 4.05
15 69.5% Italian_Piedmont ( ) + 30.5% Ukrainian_Center ( ) @ 4.05
16 87% Macedonian ( ) + 13% Basque_French ( ) @ 4.05
17 53.7% Italian_Piedmont ( ) + 46.3% Serb_BH ( ) @ 4.06
18 70.1% Italian_Piedmont ( ) + 29.9% Ukrainian_East ( ) @ 4.07
19 73.5% Italian_Piedmont ( ) + 26.5% Belarusian ( ) @ 4.07
20 71.4% Italian_Piedmont ( ) + 28.6% Ukrainian ( ) @ 4.1

MDLP K16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 31.6
2 Caucasian 24.7
3 Steppe 20.29
4 NorthEastEuropean 19.45
5 NearEast 2.43
6 Siberian 0.83
7 NorthAfrican 0.7

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Provencal (Provence) 4.46
2 French (NorthwestFrance) 5.37
3 French (EastFrance) 5.48
4 German (Germany) 6.15
5 Swiss (Switzerland) 6.85
6 Spanish (Spain) 6.96
7 Italian (Friul) 7.04
8 Italian (Bergamo) 7.25
9 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 7.32
10 Romanian (Apuseni) 7.53
11 Spanish (Baleares) 7.56
12 Serbian (Serbia) 7.58
13 French (France) 7.71
14 Romanian (Gorj) 8.05
15 German (SouthGermany) 8.16
16 Macedonian (Macedonia) 8.24
17 Moldavian (Molodva) 8.35
18 Austrian (Austria) 8.52
19 Welsh (Wales) 8.53
20 Portuguese (Portugal) 8.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72% French (France) + 28% Greek (Athens) @ 1.9
2 78.3% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 21.7% Basque (France) @ 1.94
3 74.3% French (France) + 25.7% Greek (Greece) @ 1.95
4 75.6% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 24.4% Basque (France) @ 2.01
5 50.9% Italian (Tuscany) + 49.1% English (Kent) @ 2.07
6 72.7% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 27.3% French (SouthFrance) @ 2.08
7 73.7% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 26.3% Spanish (Pais_Vasco) @ 2.08
8 70.6% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 29.4% Spanish (Pais_Vasco) @ 2.14
9 64.3% French (France) + 35.7% Greek (Greece) @ 2.14
10 69.5% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 30.5% French (SouthFrance) @ 2.15
11 81.7% French (France) + 18.3% Cypriot (Cyprus) @ 2.2
12 64.1% French (France) + 35.9% Albanian (Albania) @ 2.24
13 58.5% French (France) + 41.5% Kosovar (Kosovo) @ 2.31
14 85.7% French (France) + 14.3% Turk (Trabzon) @ 2.32
15 80.6% Montenegrian (Montenegro) + 19.4% Basque (France) @ 2.34
16 50.3% Irish (Connacht) + 49.7% Italian (Tuscany) @ 2.35
17 52% Italian (Tuscany) + 48% English (Cornwall) @ 2.36
18 67.4% French (France) + 32.6% Italian (Abruzzo) @ 2.36
19 57.2% Italian (Tuscany) + 42.8% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 2.37
20 56.6% Italian (Tuscany) + 43.4% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 2.42

andre
08-07-2019, 07:50 PM
She’s genetically identical as me.

CommonSense
08-07-2019, 07:56 PM
She’s genetically identical as me.

Not really. You have noticeably less North Atlantic than her, for example, and more Baltic. Your results are more standard for a South Slav or a northern-shifted Romanian.

Dick
08-07-2019, 08:09 PM
MDLP K16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Neolithic 31.6
2 Caucasian 24.7
3 Steppe 20.29
4 NorthEastEuropean 19.45
5 NearEast 2.43
6 Siberian 0.83
7 NorthAfrican 0.7

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Provencal (Provence) 4.46
2 French (NorthwestFrance) 5.37
3 French (EastFrance) 5.48
4 German (Germany) 6.15
5 Swiss (Switzerland) 6.85
6 Spanish (Spain) 6.96
7 Italian (Friul) 7.04
8 Italian (Bergamo) 7.25
9 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 7.32
10 Romanian (Apuseni) 7.53
11 Spanish (Baleares) 7.56
12 Serbian (Serbia) 7.58
13 French (France) 7.71
14 Romanian (Gorj) 8.05
15 German (SouthGermany) 8.16
16 Macedonian (Macedonia) 8.24
17 Moldavian (Molodva) 8.35
18 Austrian (Austria) 8.52
19 Welsh (Wales) 8.53
20 Portuguese (Portugal) 8.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72% French (France) + 28% Greek (Athens) @ 1.9
2 78.3% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 21.7% Basque (France) @ 1.94
3 74.3% French (France) + 25.7% Greek (Greece) @ 1.95
4 75.6% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 24.4% Basque (France) @ 2.01
5 50.9% Italian (Tuscany) + 49.1% English (Kent) @ 2.07
6 72.7% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 27.3% French (SouthFrance) @ 2.08
7 73.7% Macedonian (Macedonia) + 26.3% Spanish (Pais_Vasco) @ 2.08
8 70.6% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 29.4% Spanish (Pais_Vasco) @ 2.14
9 64.3% French (France) + 35.7% Greek (Greece) @ 2.14
10 69.5% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 30.5% French (SouthFrance) @ 2.15
11 81.7% French (France) + 18.3% Cypriot (Cyprus) @ 2.2
12 64.1% French (France) + 35.9% Albanian (Albania) @ 2.24
13 58.5% French (France) + 41.5% Kosovar (Kosovo) @ 2.31
14 85.7% French (France) + 14.3% Turk (Trabzon) @ 2.32
15 80.6% Montenegrian (Montenegro) + 19.4% Basque (France) @ 2.34
16 50.3% Irish (Connacht) + 49.7% Italian (Tuscany) @ 2.35
17 52% Italian (Tuscany) + 48% English (Cornwall) @ 2.36
18 67.4% French (France) + 32.6% Italian (Abruzzo) @ 2.36
19 57.2% Italian (Tuscany) + 42.8% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 2.37
20 56.6% Italian (Tuscany) + 43.4% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 2.42

She has Norman ancestry. Probably Drobnjak clan. Typical Balkan

Dick
08-07-2019, 08:16 PM
She’s genetically identical as me.

Bruh you cannot into Drobnjak clan. You also need to be I1 but you’re close

Cumansky
08-07-2019, 08:44 PM
Close Montenegrin match from Podgorica:

K13: 90160

MDLP K16: 90161

MDLP K23b: 90162

CommonSense
08-07-2019, 08:53 PM
Close Montenegrin match from Podgorica:

K13: 90160

MDLP K16: 90161

MDLP K23b: 90162

Could be the results of a Serb from any region, in all honesty. A lot of diversity in Montenegro, considering how small it is. Especially compared to a place like Dalmatia where the Serbs are all homogenous.

andre
08-07-2019, 09:07 PM
Bruh you cannot into Drobnjak clan. You also need to be I1 but you’re close

Ahhahaha that’s true! are there Serbian clans with haplogroup I2a2?

Leto
08-07-2019, 09:59 PM
@CommonSense, welcome back. I thought you were banned for good.

Can you post Dodecad K12b?

CommonSense
08-07-2019, 10:19 PM
@CommonSense, welcome back. I thought you were banned for good.

Can you post Dodecad K12b?

Thanks, I knew you wouldn't miss this thread :)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 36.04
2 Atlantic_Med 31.64
3 Caucasus 19.65
4 Southwest_Asian 7.14
5 Gedrosia 4.21
6 Siberian 0.86
7 Northwest_African 0.27
8 East_Asian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 10.4
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.98
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.98
4 Hungarians (Behar) 13.12
5 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.84
6 German (Dodecad) 15.41
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.53
8 French (Dodecad) 16.41
9 French (HGDP) 16.54
10 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 17.6
11 North_Italian (HGDP) 17.61
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.55
13 Dutch (Dodecad) 19.1
14 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.5
15 Kent (1000Genomes) 20.53
16 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 20.89
17 C_Italian (Dodecad) 20.95
18 English (Dodecad) 21.02
19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 21.38
20 Baleares (1000Genomes) 21.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.4% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 29.6% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 1.99
2 54.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 45.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.1
3 69.6% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 30.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.15
4 65.1% German (Dodecad) + 34.9% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.44
5 54.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 45.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.5
6 52.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 47.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.75
7 58.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 41.1% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 2.77
8 58.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 41.9% French (Dodecad) @ 2.78
9 65.2% German (Dodecad) + 34.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.79
10 52.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 47.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.83
11 61.8% Romanians (Behar) + 38.2% French (Dodecad) @ 2.83
12 66.1% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 33.9% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.85
13 69.5% Tuscan (HGDP) + 30.5% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.87
14 52.3% Swedish (Dodecad) + 47.7% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.9
15 58.9% German (Dodecad) + 41.1% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.91
16 68.6% Tuscan (HGDP) + 31.4% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.92
17 58.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 41.6% French (HGDP) @ 2.94
18 62% Romanians (Behar) + 38% French (HGDP) @ 2.95
19 51.3% Swedish (Dodecad) + 48.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.99
20 69.8% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 30.2% Russian (Dodecad) @ 3.04

Leto
08-07-2019, 10:24 PM
Thanks, I knew you wouldn't miss this thread :)

Haha, actually I don't have much to say, usually I'm clueless about smaller differences among Balkan people (I do have a general idea). She seems to be more on the Southern side as expected.

CommonSense
08-07-2019, 10:32 PM
Haha, actually I don't have much to say, usually I'm clueless about smaller differences among Balkan people (I do have a general idea). She seems to be more on the Southern side as expected.

Not really. Her North Atlantic + Baltic is similar in total to Decius and myself (the component ratio being the difference) and she's to the west of the Serbian dot on the PCA. If we took that sample from ancient Dalmatia as an Illyrian refference, she can be modelled as 2/3 Illyrian, 1/3 Slavic

Dick
08-08-2019, 12:26 AM
Not really. Her North Atlantic + Baltic is similar in total to Decius and myself (the component ratio being the difference) and she's to the west of the Serbian dot on the PCA. If we took that sample from ancient Dalmatia as an Illyrian refference, she can be modelled as 2/3 Illyrian, 1/3 Slavic

CAn you post her gedrosia Eurasia k6?

CommonSense
08-08-2019, 12:32 PM
CAn you post her gedrosia Eurasia k6?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Natufian 41.36
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 36.28
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 20.74
4 East_Asian 1.34
5 Sub_Saharan 0.28

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 2.48
2 Romanian 2.93
3 Croatian 5.88
4 Albanian 6.56
5 Greek 7.47
6 Hungarian 8.6
7 Spanish 9.37
8 French 9.37
9 Sicilian 10.71
10 Czech 10.82
11 English 11.15
12 Ukrainian 11.48
13 Italian_South 11.97
14 Scottish 12.09
15 Norwegian 12.39
16 Jew_Ashkenazi 12.86
17 Icelandic 14.55
18 Europe_LNBA 15.25
19 Basque 15.74
20 Armenia_ChL 16.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.7% Lithuanian + 45.3% Cypriot @ 0.61
2 64.4% Norwegian + 35.6% Cypriot @ 0.79
3 59.4% Europe_LNBA + 40.6% Cypriot @ 0.96
4 66.1% Ukrainian + 33.9% Cypriot @ 0.96
5 60.1% Basque + 39.9% Lezgin @ 1.09
6 60.6% Icelandic + 39.4% Cypriot @ 1.15
7 72.6% Albanian + 27.4% Steppe_MLBA @ 1.19
8 70.6% Czech + 29.4% Druze @ 1.21
9 56.1% Estonian + 43.9% Cypriot @ 1.27
10 73.2% English + 26.8% Jew_iraqi @ 1.28
11 73.8% Czech + 26.2% Jew_iraqi @ 1.32
12 83.1% Croatian + 16.9% Georgian @ 1.32
13 67.5% Czech + 32.5% Cypriot @ 1.34
14 90.1% Romanian + 9.9% Lezgin @ 1.36
15 78% Hungarian + 22% Jew_iraqi @ 1.36
16 75.3% French + 24.7% Georgian @ 1.4
17 70.1% French + 29.9% Adygei @ 1.41
18 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% AG2 @ 1.41
19 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% AG3 @ 1.41
20 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% MA1 @ 1.41

21993
08-08-2019, 12:57 PM
Mixed Mode Population Sharing option sometimes give pretty interesting results as in the original post

Ikol
09-07-2019, 06:02 PM
Close Montenegrin match from Podgorica:

K13: 90160

MDLP K16: 90161

MDLP K23b: 90162


1 Baltic 28.39
2 North_Atlantic 27.26
3 West_Med 19.07
4 East_Med 13.43
5 West_Asian 7.34
6 Red_Sea 1.92
7 Amerindian 1.05
8 East_Asian 0.68
9 Oceanian 0.49
10 Northeast_African 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.3
2 Romanian 7.08
3 Moldavian 7.44
4 Hungarian 8.45
5 Croatian 8.75
6 Bulgarian 9.35
7 Austrian 10.72
8 East_German 12.04
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.33
10 South_Polish 15.83
11 West_German 15.9
12 Ukrainian 16.49
13 French 16.86
14 Greek_Thessaly 17.06
15 North_Italian 17.15
16 South_Dutch 17.21
17 Polish 19.25
18 Portuguese 19.39
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.44
20 Tuscan 19.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.6% Croatian + 33.4% North_Italian @ 1.91
2 69.6% Croatian + 30.4% Tuscan @ 2.14
3 54.3% Ukrainian + 45.7% Tuscan @ 2.19
4 55% North_Italian + 45% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.47
5 56.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.8% Tuscan @ 2.54
6 70.8% Moldavian + 29.2% North_Italian @ 2.56
7 54.5% North_Italian + 45.5% Southwest_Russian @ 2.56
8 75.6% Moldavian + 24.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.76
9 52.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 47.1% North_Italian @ 2.77
10 50.4% Polish + 49.6% Tuscan @ 2.77
11 51% Ukrainian + 49% North_Italian @ 2.8
12 76.7% Moldavian + 23.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.89
13 75.9% Moldavian + 24.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.91
14 75.1% Moldavian + 24.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.92
15 73.7% Moldavian + 26.3% Portuguese @ 2.92
16 58.4% Tuscan + 41.6% Lithuanian @ 2.97
17 76.9% Moldavian + 23.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.06
18 75.4% Moldavian + 24.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.07
19 52.8% Tuscan + 47.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.09
20 79% Moldavian + 21% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.19


https://imgur.com/JHgk7FL

If u compare mine and to her, what do u think?