Which European nation produces the finest athletes?

[The Journeyman]

I'm of the opinion that the eastern Europeans have an edge, but it may be more due to economic reasons or what seems to be less economic oppportunities = more choose careers in athletics.

The Germans generally rank high in the Olympic games and the World Cup (but lately there have been some foreigners in the mix).

The Finns have good long distance runners; South Slavs have good tennis and probably the best basketball players in Europe.

In MMA and boxing, the leaders tend to be Slavs, usually eastern European. But the Dutch also have great kickboxers.

[Ibericus]

Spain. World champions in basketball and football. Former Nº1 and now 2 in tennis Rafael Nadal.

[Rosenrot]

Slavs, I believe. I vote Russia.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Greece. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1896_Summer_Olympics#Medal_count)

[poiuytrewq0987]

Spain. World champions in basketball and football. Former Nº1 and now 2 in tennis Rafael Nadal.

Djokovic made Nadal his bitch so no, Spain is definitely not #1 and it will fall even farther when Serbia wins the Eurocup next year and the World cup in 2014. :D

[Mordid]

Dutch negro, I believe.

[The Journeyman]

Dutch negro, I believe.

Allistair Overeem is hopped up on roids. ;) But Bonjasky and Hoost were great fighters.

[Mordid]

Anyone who is European with minor Negro ancestry produces the finest athletes.

[Mordid]

Allistair Overeem is hopped up on roids. ;) But Bonjasky and Hoost were great fighters.

I'm talking about ethnic Dutchnegro. :)

[BiałaZemsta]

Slavs, I believe.
:thumb001:

[Mordid]

http://img.interia.pl/sport/nimg/9/b/Mariusz_Pudzianowski_Fot_3692154.jpg

[Lithium]

I vote for Bulgaria, of course. We have a lot ot athletic talents, but our economic politic is a crap and does not think about the sport. The athletes without capable sponsor doesn't have chance of big success anymore.

[The Journeyman]

I'm talking about ethnic Dutchnegro. :)

You probably have a point there. I think the mixe of extreme leptomorphic types of the Dutch with the more robust (generally) ecto/mesomorphic types of African descent produce a formidable body type. But same types can be produced all over Europe, i.e. the Klitschko brothers.

[The Journeyman]

http://img.interia.pl/sport/nimg/9/b/Mariusz_Pudzianowski_Fot_3692154.jpg

This guy is clearly on steroids, he does not qualify. ;)

[Mordid]

This guy is clearly on steroids, he does not qualify. ;)

Dont you facking liee....:D

[Ouistreham]

France, thanks to Christophe Lemaitre, the fastest white man in history!

http://q.liberation.fr/photo/id/197089/r/03/02/w/459/m/1293510767

http://charlie180.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/master1.jpg http://thesportreview.com/images/chriss.jpg

http://www.sport24.com/var/plain_site/storage/images/athletisme/actualites/des-sentiments-mitiges-457852/7808508-2-fre-FR/Des-sentiments-mitiges_actus.jpg

http://www.dna.fr/fr/images/d0aea168-9edc-4726-90a5-d87a70691c18/DNA_02/Deuxieme-en-9-96-derriere-le-Jamaiquain-Yohan-Blake-Christophe-Lemaitre-a-ameliore-hier-son-record-de-France-du-100m.-(Photo-AFP).jpg


The first European who is not of African descent to run 100 metres in less than 10 seconds.

When Christophe Lemaître ran 9.98sec at the French national championships this month, the headlines read:

First white man to break the 10-second barrier.

"By running 100 metres in 9.98sec Friday 19-year old French sprinter Christophe Lemaître not only set a national record, he became the first person genetically of European origin to officially cover the distance in less than 10 seconds"*

Lemaître's achievement is indeed remarkable:

'Before today, there had been 446 legal sub-10-second performances in the men’s 100m; all of them achieved by 69 different sprinters of African-Caribbean descent and one of Aborigine descent. Lemaître has become the 62nd fastest athlete of all time with his performance of 9.98 at the French Championships.'

[Lábaru]

Spain. World champions in basketball and football. Former Nº1 and now 2 in tennis Rafael Nadal.

Not to mention our cyclists, our car drivers and many others. Considering our 40 million people, we are the leaders.

Anyway, everyone will vote for their country.

[The Journeyman]

France, thanks to Christophe Lemaitre, the fastest white man in history!

http://q.liberation.fr/photo/id/197089/r/03/02/w/459/m/1293510767

http://charlie180.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/master1.jpg http://thesportreview.com/images/chriss.jpg

http://www.sport24.com/var/plain_site/storage/images/athletisme/actualites/des-sentiments-mitiges-457852/7808508-2-fre-FR/Des-sentiments-mitiges_actus.jpg

http://www.dna.fr/fr/images/d0aea168-9edc-4726-90a5-d87a70691c18/DNA_02/Deuxieme-en-9-96-derriere-le-Jamaiquain-Yohan-Blake-Christophe-Lemaitre-a-ameliore-hier-son-record-de-France-du-100m.-(Photo-AFP).jpg

He'll probably continue to grow and improve athletically in his early to mid-20's, so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him move up in rank in the near future. It seems people of African descent tend to reach their prime earlier than the majority of Europeans.

[Treffie]

Slavs, I believe. I vote Russia.

Yep. Russia has always dominated in athletics, especially in Europe. Brutal training, but it works.


Spain. World champions in basketball and football. Former Nº1 and now 2 in tennis Rafael Nadal.

What made me think that you'd vote for Spain?

[Lábaru]

.......

[Lábaru]

Yep. Russia has always dominated in athletics, especially in Europe. Brutal training, but it works.



You mean brutal doping :p and of course brutal number of people.

[Falkata]

It depends what kind of "athletes" you mean. Also people like different sports depending on the country. For example nobody would vote for the Russians in Spain because the popular sports here are fooball, basketball, tennis, cyclism, motorbikes and F-1 . And russians are nothing in these sports.
Spain is very powerful in those sports but it´s weak in others like athletics, gymnastics...

[Mordid]

I think South Slav are very good at baskeball.

[Laubach]

historically, based on rankings of winter and summer Olympics Russia and Germany are the countries that stood out. Of course other countries in some sports are better than others, but I think more correct to define the basis for a historic Olympic moments and not just get isolated or recent

[Laubach]

It depends what kind of "athletes" you mean. Also people like different sports depending on the country. For example nobody would vote for the Russians in Spain because the popular sports here are fooball, basketball, tennis, cyclism, motorbikes and F-1 . And russians are nothing in these sports.
Spain is very powerful in those sports but it´s weak in others like athletics, gymnastics...

This is a recent view, because Russia has always been a traditional selection in football and also basketball .. If I remember correctly, the Russians won the last European championships in basketball.

[Treffie]

It depends what kind of "athletes" you mean. Also people like different sports depending on the country. For example nobody would vote for the Russians in Spain because the popular sports here are fooball, basketball, tennis, cyclism, motorbikes and F-1 . And russians are nothing in these sports.


No?

http://www.topnews.in/sports/files/Sharapova_0.jpg

[safinator]

I agree with Louback opinion about Russia and Germany

[Laubach]

Djokovic made Nadal his bitch so no, Spain is definitely not #1 and it will fall even farther when Serbia wins the Eurocup next year and the World cup in 2014. :D

The former Yugoslavia had a great selection of football and basketball, but when it ended, in football, could not be as efficient and basketball has seen better times. Therefore, even in dreams you're going to win the Eurocup and World Cup in 2014:p

[Laubach]

Russian tennis always produced good players, like Kafelnikov, Safin, Sharapova, Kuznetsova, Petrova, etc...

[Laubach]

Allistair Overeem is hopped up on roids. ;) But Bonjasky and Hoost were great fighters.

Fedor was better than all of them and Mirko "Crocop" was also better than Overeem and Bonjasky

[Falkata]

No?

http://www.topnews.in/sports/files/Sharapova_0.jpg

I cant remember any Top tenis russian player like Federer, Nadal, Agassi, Sampras, Becker, Borg...

[Treffie]

You mean brutal doping :p and of course brutal number of people.

Even with the new anti-doping procedures in place, Russia still dominates. The Ukraine is also a powerful nation of athletes, as is Belarus and Romania. In fact, all the post Soviet nations seem to box above their weight.

[Falkata]

This is a recent view, because Russia has always been a traditional selection in football and also basketball .. If I remember correctly, the Russians won the last European championships in basketball.

You´re right about basketball although they were better in the past. About football Russia is nothing since the USSR split, just a medium team like Sweden, Serbia or many others

[Treffie]

I cant remember any Top tenis russian player like Federer, Nadal, Agassi, Sampras, Becker, Borg...

Marat Safin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marat_Safin#World_No._1_and_Grand_Slam_history)

[Laubach]

I cant remember any Top tenis russian player like Federer, Nadal, Agassi, Sampras, Becker, Borg...

Federer is a genius, but beyond that, which another player to Switzerland produced? Safin and Kafelnikov were number one in the world and also won grand slams. With all due respect, if not that slow clay of Roland Garros, Nadal would not have 10 grand slams. And I suspect a lot if it does not use doping

[Lábaru]

Even with the new anti-doping procedures in place, Russia still dominates. The Ukraine is also a powerful nation of athletes, as is Belarus and Romania. In fact, all the post Soviet nations seem to box above their weight.

Excellent doctors,ahead of preparing anti-doping tests, this is the great secret of these sports.

[Laubach]

You´re right about basketball although they were better in the past. About football Russia is nothing since the USSR split, just a medium team like Sweden, Serbia or many others

like spain before won euro and world cup

[safinator]

I cant remember any Top tenis russian player like Federer, Nadal, Agassi, Sampras, Becker, Borg...
Read my nick.

[Falkata]

like spain before won euro and world cup

Well Spain won 2 eurocups during its history. Russia as an independent country didnt

[Laubach]

Russia is an independent country since the 90's. only 20 years.

[Amapola]

With all due respect, if not that slow clay of Roland Garros, Nadal would not have 10 grand slams. And I suspect a lot if it does not use doping

Typical Federedian speech of not liking the person that took his crown off winning :D

[Falkata]

Anyway if you mention Sharapova, Spain had Sanchez Vicario

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arantxa_S%C3%A1nchez_Vicario

or Conchita Martinez

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conchita_Mart%C3%ADnez

If you mention Safin I can mention Ferrero

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Carlos_Ferrero

or even old ones like Santana
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Santana

But I was just mentioning Top man tennis players of the history and certainly Safin and Kafelnikov were very good but not the best ones

[safinator]

Anyway if you mention Sharapova, Spain had Sanchez Vicario

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arantxa_S%C3%A1nchez_Vicario

or Conchita Martinez

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conchita_Mart%C3%ADnez

If you mention Safin I can mention Ferrero

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Carlos_Ferrero

or even old ones like Santana
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Santana

But I was just mentioning Top man tennis players of the history and certainly Safin and Kafelnikov were very good but not the best ones
The best Safin beats the best Federer.
AO 2005 Semifinals.

[Falkata]

With all due respect, if not that slow clay of Roland Garros, Nadal would not have 10 grand slams. And I suspect a lot if it does not use doping

And what´s wrong with clay? It´s just a type of surface like grass or any other.
And why you suspect about Nadal us¡ng doping? Did you make a research by yourself or it´s just some strange Nadal-phobia? :confused: Very cheap argument by the way

[Laubach]

Typical Federedian speech of not liking the person that took his crown off winning :D

I saw all the players falkata quoted, so I can say that close to them, Nadal can not be considered among the best. You can only put Nadal in this regard in the number of grand slams. His game is physical, not aggressive, based on the counterattack. Perhaps, if you understand a little more tennis and was least in part, know I'm not defending Federer

[safinator]

Nadal is a moonballer.

[Falkata]

I saw all the players falkata quoted, so I can say that close to them, Nadal can not be considered among the best. You can only put Nadal in this regard in the number of grand slams. His game is physical, not aggressive, based on the counterattack. Perhaps, if you understand a little more tennis and was least in part, know I'm not defending Federer

We judge who are the best players or which are the best teams based on their success winning Cups and not on personal opinions.
If not the team of my city would be better than F.c Barcelona

If Nadal´s style is effective and the reast can´t beat them it´s because Nadal is a better player. If it was so easy what Nadal does everybody would do the same because tennis players want to win and not to make a show like a circus

[Lábaru]

And why you suspect about Nadal us¡ng doping? Did you make a research by yourself or it´s just some strange Nadal-phobia? :confused: Very cheap argument by the way

xD xD xD

[Laubach]

And what´s wrong with clay? It´s just a type of surface like grass or any other.
And why you suspect about Nadal us¡ng doping? Did you make a research by yourself or it´s just some strange Nadal-phobia? :confused: Very cheap argument by the way

What I mean is that Nadal's game, compared to other players you mentioned do not be among the biggest. It can be considered in this ranking by winning 10 grand slams. But he did not have sneakers. It has a terrible volley, a bag weak, is a typical clay court player and defensive. As in recent years the floors are slower, it helps your game. Well, anyone who has played tennis knows that. If it was 10 years ago, Nadal would have never won a Wimbledon title. Took the match between Federer x Sampras, it was only serve and volley and the grass was very fast. Now, you see the grass changing balls.


And I did not say that he uses doping, I suspect, due to their physical and relentless at times he has claimed several injured. Honestly, I never saw anyone running in either a semi-final Australian Open, 5 hours and the next day over 5 hours playing as if nothing happened

[Laubach]

We judge who are the best players or which are the best teams based on their success winning Cups and not on personal opinions.
If not the team of my city would be better than F.c Barcelona

If Nadal´s style is effective and the reast can´t beat them it´s because Nadal is a better player. If it was so easy what Nadal does everybody would do the same because tennis players want to win and not to make a show like a circus

Who is thinking this way is you. I saw all the players you mentioned. If you do not remember any Russian who has been successful in tennis, for you gave Becker and Borg who came before Kafelnikov and Safin? Because you are based on titles

[Lábaru]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Indurain

Bah! sure he used doping....the reality is that yes, all the elite athletes use doping, always.

[Falkata]

What I mean is that Nadal's game, compared to other players you mentioned do not be among the biggest. It can be considered in this ranking by winning 10 grand slams. But he did not have sneakers. It has a terrible volley, a bag weak, is a typical clay court player and defensive. As in recent years the floors are slower, it helps your game. Well, anyone who has played tennis knows that. If it was 10 years ago, Nadal would have never won a Wimbledon title. Took the match between Federer x Sampras, it was only serve and volley and the grass was very fast. Now, you see the grass changing balls.


And I did not say that he uses doping, I suspect, due to their physical and relentless at times he has claimed several injured. Honestly, I never saw anyone running in either a semi-final Australian Open, 5 hours and the next day over 5 hours playing as if nothing happened

Maybe because Nadal trains more and has better genetics? Because Federer has a very shitty body for example. I mean looking at him without t-shirt makes me lol :D
Accusing somebody of doping without any proof is really absurd. Dont offence. For that matter I could say that looking at your photo you use Winstrol or Dianabol :confused:

Anyway as I´ve said before we´re judging who is better and not who offers a better show.
I like to watch the Netherlands playing football but hey they never won shit. However Italy won 4 world cups so even when I fell sleep when I watch them playing they´re better.
It´s not hard to understand I hope

[Laubach]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Indurain

Bah! sure he used doping....the reality is that yes, all the elite athletes use doping, always.

I do not doubt his assertion, however, in tennis the control of doping is not as strong as in other sports. But I have nothing against Nadal. I like tennis and I am describing the style of his game. Instead of going against me, and argue why they think it the best. Will if he was not Spanish you would think the same?

[Falkata]

Because you are based on titles

Indeed. Because titles are a better way of measuring who is better rather than personal opinions. There´s not a right style of playing football or tennis. You can be deffensive or wathever you want if that makes you win and you follow the rules. Sport is about that

[Treffie]

At the summer Olympics, it seems that Finland beats everyone hands down per capita (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/spo_sum_oly_med_all_tim_percap-medals-all-time-per-capita).

[Laubach]

Maybe because Nadal trains more and has better genetics? Because Federer has a very shitty body for example. I mean looking at him without t-shirt makes me lol :D
Accusing somebody of doping without any proof is really absurd. Dont offence. For that matter I could say that looking at your photo you use Winstrol or Dianabol :confused:

Anyway as I´ve said before we´re judging who is better and not who offers a better show.
I like to watch the Netherlands playing football but hey they never won shit. However Italy won 4 world cups so even when I fell sleep when I watch them playing they´re better.
It´s not hard to understand I hope

Nadal train and have better genetics than others? The guy looks like a running machine, is never tired. This is not normal. Anyone who practiced a sport knows this, but the body has a limit and once in a while he gets injured and has already begun falling income.

Now you're accusing me of taking steroids? Have begun to leave for personal attacks?

Explain to me why you think Nadal good. you did not say why yet

[Laubach]

Indeed. Because titles are a better way of measuring who is better rather than personal opinions. There´s not a right style of playing football or tennis. You can be deffensive or wathever you want if that makes you win and you follow the rules. Sport is about that

But it was you who accused me of thinkingas well, right? Then, based on securities Federer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Nadal

[Falkata]

Nadal train and have better genetics than others? The guy looks like a running machine, is never tired. This is not normal. Anyone who practiced a sport knows this, but the body has a limit and once in a while he gets injured and has already begun falling income.

Now you're accusing me of taking steroids? Have begun to leave for personal attacks?

I was trying to show how absurd is to make attacks about somebody that you dont know based on nothing. "Nadal runs a lot , oh it must be dopping" is not a very convicent argument. I dont think they would take you serioulsly in a court




Explain to me why you think Nadal good. you did not say why yet

Because he´s a 25 years old guy who won 10 grand Slams, 3 Davis Cup a gold medal in Beijing..
Can you tell me how many tennis players during history won all that when they were 25? Tic tac tic tac....

[Lábaru]

I do not doubt his assertion, however, in tennis the control of doping is not as strong as in other sports. But I have nothing against Nadal. I like tennis and I am describing the style of his game. Instead of going against me, and argue why they think it the best. Will if he was not Spanish you would think the same?

Really you think Federer not use doping?

[Laubach]

I was trying to show how absurd is to make attacks about somebody that you dont know based on nothing. "Nadal runs a lot , oh it must be dopping" is not a very convicent argument. I dont think they would take you serioulsly in a court




Because he´s a 25 years old guy who won 10 grand Slams, 3 Davis Cup a gold medal in Beijing..
Can you tell me how many tennis players during history won all that when they were 25? Tic tac tic tac....

Borg, Federer, Samprar.. BOrg retired when he was 26

[Laubach]

Really you think Federer not use doping?

i don´t doubt anything,But he is much more talented than Nadal and his game is less physical. That is fact. I like Nadal, you need not do all this uproar

[Falkata]

Borg, Federer, Samprar.. BOrg retired when he was 26

You just mentioned other top players of the history. And that´s why Nadal is in that club and not Safin for example.

Anyway what do you want me to say? That Federer is technically better than Nadal? Because I think so but it doesn´t make you´re better. As I´ve said before I think the Netherlands football team was better technically than Italy but who is the winner and who is the looser?

[Lábaru]

i don´t doubt anything,But he is much more talented than Nadal and his game is less physical. That is fact. I like Nadal, you need not do all this uproar

But Nadal gets best results, nadal wins, and after all that's the reason of the game.

[askra]

it's easy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_table

1. Russia and former Soviet Union = 473 gold medals
2. Germany= 336 gold medals
3. Italy= 227
4. France= 218
5. Great Britain= 216
....

[Logan]

Deutschland.

[Laubach]

You just mentioned other top players of the history. And that´s why Nadal is in that club and not Safin for example.

Anyway what do you want me to say? That Federer is technically better than Nadal? Because I think so but it doesn´t make you´re better. As I´ve said before I think the Netherlands football team was better technically than Italy but who is the winner and who is the looser?

the point is that Federer is better than Nadal on the technique and number of titles. But he is 30 and its peak is over, but the discussion has been distorted. What we were addressing was the fact that countries are able to produce many talents in various sports. And his argument was based on very moment, while I get an entire historical cycle.

[Lábaru]

One thing is true, I voted for the present time, in the last years Spain seems to have many champions. Historically is a different perspective.

[Ibericus]

Alberto Contador, winner of 6 grand tours, including last Tour of France :

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Contador


Spain dominates in basketball, football, tennis, handball, cycling, F1, Moto GP, etc.

[Joe McCarthy]

It may be incorrect info but I've read that Nazi Germany is the only country ever to beat the US in the medal table at the Summer Olympics.

http://vhec.org/1936_olympics/images/the_nazi_state/front.jpg

[Volkodav]

Why is not Romania on that list ? You have countries that never produce any sportsmen like Bosnia and Netherlands or Sweden and Norway.

Bute Comăneci Hagi Năstase Doroftei etc put Romania on the list and delete ten random countries.
Anja Anderser is the reason why from the nordic region only Denmark should be on that list.

[Lars]

Russia.

Spain on top? MWahahahahahahahaha.

[Lábaru]

Spain on top? MWahahahahahahahaha.





Spain dominates in basketball, football, tennis, handball, cycling, F1, Moto GP, etc.


Is a fact.

[OneWolf]

I would have to say the Russians.It would be nice if the Russians could find another sprinter like Valeri Borzov.This man was fast-

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[Murphy]

England.

































































LMAO! No.

[The Journeyman]

I would have to say that the eastern Slavs are probably the best fighters in Europe, if not the world. Most of my favorite fighters in K1 or MMA tend to be Slavs. It might come from their tradition in Sambo fighting or Russian fisticuffs. The Germans during WW2 even admitted that when it came to hand to hand fighting in Stalingrad, the Russians were better fighters. I read that from one source though.

One of my favorite fighters, Igor Vovchanchyn nasty little guy from Ukraine

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[Curtis24]

Germans, because of the high ratio of Faelids/mesomorphs in the population.

[Laubach]

My favorite fighters

Mirko

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His "Mawashi"( left hich-kick) was awesome. The combination of speed, technique, explosion and force were perfect.

Mirko x vovychanchin shows this

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Mirko x Fedor "the figth of the century"

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[GeistFaust]

Germans, because of the high ratio of Faelids/mesomorphs in the population.

I agree with this not only that but they are rough and determined when playing sports so their physical structure and mentality is prime for sports. I think alot of Irish have good types for playing rough sports as well like rugby and what not. A few of the Slavic countries also have some good athletic types I usually think of Russia for example.

[Laubach]

Alexander Ovechkin, for me, the best player in the World

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[Laubach]

Federer x sampras. An incredible match

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When federer surpasse Sampras record of grand slams

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[Laubach]

Rugby: France x New Zealand, another incredible match

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[Laubach]

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for those who said that the Netherlands produces nothing. Cruyff

[GeistFaust]

Alexander Ovechkin, for me, the best player in the World

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I like Sidney Crosby and Malkin much better.

[Laubach]

memorable matches

Germany x Argentina World cup final 1990

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France x italian eurocup final 2000

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France x Italian World Cup final 2006

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[Laubach]

I like Sidney Crosby and Malkin much better.

You are Penguins fun:p

[GeistFaust]

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for those who said that the Netherlands produces nothing. Cruyff

You can not forget Marco Van Basten, Ruud Van Nisterlooy, or Robin Van Persie.

[Laubach]

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I will post a video of Van Basten

[GeistFaust]

memorable matches

Germany x Argentina World cup final 1990

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France x italian eurocup final 2000

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France x Italian World Cup final 2006

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I think its funny how they portray Italy to be flopping all the time in the World Cup they have even showed them in practice practicing how to flop for the game.

[GeistFaust]

Rugby: France x New Zealand, another incredible match

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Alot of the best Rugby players are Cro Magnons in my honest opinion like Irish Brunns for example.

[Laubach]

Alot of the best Rugby players are Cro Magnons in my honest opinion like Irish Brunns for example.

Many French rugby players are the southeast and southwest of France, but I agree, most are CM

[lI]

it's easy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_table

1. Russia and former Soviet Union = 473 gold medals
2. Germany= 336 gold medals
3. Italy= 227
4. France= 218
5. Great Britain= 216
....Attributing all Soviet Union medals to Russia is just plain WRONG since there were many people of different ethnicities competing under the Soviet flag.

[GeistFaust]

Attributing all Soviet Union medals to Russia is just plain WRONG since there were many people of different ethnicities competing under the Soviet flag.

The Russians always like to cheat I am telling you don't trust any communist they are all Jews by mindset.

[Laubach]

Sweden x Finland men´s gold medal final at winter olympics of 2006

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[The Journeyman]

My favorite fighters

Mirko

His "Mawashi"( left hich-kick) was awesome. The combination of speed, technique, explosion and force were perfect.

Mirko x vovychanchin shows this

Yeah, Mirko was also one of my top favorites. But Igor has a more impressive fight record.

[Logan]

I believe Russia is being misunderstood for the old U.S.S.R.

[Comte Arnau]

In terms of number of fine athletes/population, there is no doubt: the Catalan lands. No jingoism, just simple stats.

[Davy Jones's Locker]

it's easy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_table

1. Russia and former Soviet Union = 473 gold medals
2. Germany= 336 gold medals
3. Italy= 227
4. France= 218
5. Great Britain= 216
....

I found this per capita rankings (http://www.medalspercapita.com/).

[Turkophagos]

Can you tell me how many tennis players during history won all that when they were 25? Tic tac tic tac....

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41404000/jpg/_41404958_borg_action_416x300.jpg


The guy in the middle...

[Joe McCarthy]

The Russians always like to cheat I am telling you don't trust any communist they are all Jews by mindset.

The East German Communists were notorious cheaters in sports as well.

[rhiannon]

I don't watch a lot of sports....but we do watch the Olympics and the World's Strongman/woman competitions if we catch em'

Based on the events I tend to watch:

Gymnastics: Eastern Europe....usually Romania, Russia, or somewhere out of that vicinity

Figure Skating: Eastern Europe, again

ALL Skiing: Scandinavian nations.....especially Norway and Sweden

Diving: The USA:) China's getting pretty good at this sport also....but they don't count as European:biggrin:

As for any Strongman or Strongwoman competition:
Scandinavians and Eastern Europeans....with the occasional American or Brit tossed in for the hell of it.

Sprinting: No one in Europe!:p I believe this would be Kenya.

Long distance running: Scandinavia or the USA

Anything requiring great jumping ability: No one in Europe! Africa for sure:thumb001:

[Aviane]

I'm of the opinion that the eastern Europeans have an edge, but it may be more due to economic reasons or what seems to be less economic oppportunities = more choose careers in athletics.

The Germans generally rank high in the Olympic games and the World Cup (but lately there have been some foreigners in the mix).

The Finns have good long distance runners; South Slavs have good tennis and probably the best basketball players in Europe.

In MMA and boxing, the leaders tend to be Slavs, usually eastern European. But the Dutch also have great kickboxers.

This seem to me to be true in alot of cases because when watching sports on TV these always the ones to dominate the sports and as a British of French origins I would agree.


Slavs, I believe. I vote Russia.

Generally Slavs are of the most top sportsmen.


Djokovic made Nadal his bitch so no, Spain is definitely not #1 and it will fall even farther when Serbia wins the Eurocup next year and the World cup in 2014. :D

Totally agree with all that.

It's funny when someone makes a thread and normally states honest facts suddenly somebody else (like a Spaniard) has to always assert themselves to be better so they can be excepted as equals just because someone innocently says his genuine facts.

Funny eh. :rolleyes:

[CelticViking]

GB, France, Italy, Russia and Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Summer_Olympics_medal_table

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_table

[Szegedist]

I am surprised nobody has mentioned Hungary.

Hungary has participated in 25 Olympic games, and out of those only 6 times we were not in the top 10.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary_at_the_Olympics#Medal_tables_by_Games

Back in 1936 for example, we were third, only behind America and Nazi Germany, which is a good place to be I think.
In the 2012 Olympics, we came 9th, which was a surprise to us since there were many funding cuts due to the economy.

All the Olympics combined, Hungary is 8th. The countries above us are Germany, Italy,China, France, Great Britain, Soviet Union, USA. Now compare the population, sports funding, etc differences :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_count

We are a country of 10 million, from which about a 700k to million are gypsies, who unlike blacks arent even good at any sports :(

[Geminus]

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewiger_Medaillenspiegel_der_Olympischen_Spiele

From the Olympic games metal table you can see that USA, Russia and Germany are leading by far.
USA have won a combined total of 2652, Russia of 1836 and Germany 1663. Great Britain, the next nation only has 801.
Germany also is leader in the Olympic Winter Games, 2nd is Russia and 3d is surprisingly Norway.

[Harkonnen]

Well Finland happens to have the most olympic medals per capita..

[Harkonnen]

http://www.topendsports.com/events/summer/medal-tally/all-time-comparison-pop.htm

Finland 1

Norway tops the winter games by a mile on another note I must note..

[Austo]

I think Russia, but it might have something to do with it, that they are the most people.

[Illancha]

I think Russia, but it might have something to do with it, that they are the most people.
Half of their atheletes are Caucasians.

[Austo]

Half of their atheletes are Caucasians.

I wasnt talking about race, i meant the number of people.

[Szegedist]

Well Finland happens to have the most olympic medals per capita..

And Hungary second , meh not bad, we will give that one to you ;)


http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewiger_Medaillenspiegel_der_Olympischen_Spiele

From the Olympic games metal table you can see that USA, Russia and Germany are leading by far.
USA have won a combined total of 2652, Russia of 1836 and Germany 1663. Great Britain, the next nation only has 801.
Germany also is leader in the Olympic Winter Games, 2nd is Russia and 3d is surprisingly Norway.

And how many American gold medalists were black? How many Russian or USSR gold medalists were non Russian?


That is the advantage of states like Russia, China, USA, Germany, huge population, lots of choice, lots of funding for propaganda reasons.

[Geminus]

And how many American gold medalists were black? How many Russian or USSR gold medalists were non Russian?

That is the advantage of states like Russia, China, USA, Germany, huge population, lots of choice, lots of funding for propaganda reasons.

That's right, so the number of medals per capita could be an indicator of which nation has the best athletes per average.
But other factors would also have to be considered: So for example some countries spend much more money than other countries in sports. The countries of the former Eastern Bloc made a huge effort to gain medals, too (Also in Germany: Eastern Germany gained a lot more medals than Western Germany and the Soviet Union also won a lot of medals)

[Žołnir]

Considering our size Slovenes ofc. And prime example of our master race is Leon Štukelj. Altho he was in his best form during Kingdom of Yuga he is Slovene first of all and could do pull ups even when 100 years old. I wouldn't believe it if wouldn't see it. xD


Check out his medal list. He could easly beat victories of entire nations! :P http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_%C5%A0tukelj


http://www.ukom.gov.si/uploads/pics/stukelj1.jpg

http://www.delo.si/assets/media/picture/20120802/Kult__djvu_85869_jurak_-nov_hires.jpeg3.jpeg?rev=1

[Anglosphere]

Depends which sport

[SKYNET]

in that case I will vote for slavs, especially the russians ;p

[Lobotomist]

Norway and Sweden are listed, but not Denmark?

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/26349752.jpg

[Dominika]

Germany and Poland :D