Y-Dna Haplogroup I thread

[Ayetooey]

Since those neolithic G lozerz have one. This is a thread for us paternal descendants of Upper Paleolithic Europeans. Map of the percentages of total haplogroup I (I1/I2 combined) throughout Europe and West Asia.

https://i.imgur.com/5xCQUFc.gif

[Ayetooey]

Heatmap of my subclade I just found.

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/73/63/b6/7363b66377b48d368f85b10dfcf0874e.jpg

[Kyp]

Don't mind this random R1a carrier raiding here:

https://image.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/scythian-archer-historical-illustration-260nw-1261073665.jpg

[Ayetooey]

Don't mind this random R1a carrier raiding here:

https://image.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/scythian-archer-historical-illustration-260nw-1261073665.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cbQPJPfJCy4/ThIG7spzxOI/AAAAAAAABgM/VRQoVG_kn8k/s1600/Mark_Henry+6.jpg

[Kaspias]

We should invade this thread

[Jana]

I men are my past, present and future.
Would like to have a thread about PH908, it is very mysterious in term if origins as matter of fact.

[Kyp]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cbQPJPfJCy4/ThIG7spzxOI/AAAAAAAABgM/VRQoVG_kn8k/s1600/Mark_Henry+6.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/05/article-0-19DC50E000000578-778_634x639.jpg

[Ayetooey]

I men are my past, present and future.
Would like to have a thread about PH908, it is very mysterious in term if origins as matter of fact.

PH908 defo came from some specific tribe before slavicisation.

[Vojnik]

Homo Sapien Aborigines of Europe.

[Blondie]

Haplogroup I master race in Europe:

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup_I1.gif

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-I2b.gif

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup_I2a.gif

[Ayetooey]

Another ph908 map. This one was made by Ph2er I think. Hope he's alright with the repost.

https://i.imgur.com/cVQAk8F.png

[Ayetooey]

Haplogroup I1 frequency map.

https://i.imgur.com/JohZIEE.gif

[Vojnik]

Lets celebrate some influential I haplogroup people. We start with Martin Luther. I2a-Din-N.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Martin_Luther_by_Cranach-restoration.jpg

[Kyp]

Lets celebrate some influential I haplogroup people. We start with Martin Luther. I2a-Din-N.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Martin_Luther_by_Cranach-restoration.jpg

https://images02.military.com/sites/default/files/styles/full/public/media/veteran-jobs/content-images/2016/03/chucknorris.jpg?itok=_J3M4O-S
I2a2a-Z79

[Adamastor]

The true Europeans who fought against swarthy mena niggers (J, E etc.) and asiatic hordes (R).

[Vojnik]

We can't leave out this big fella:

https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13838424_f520.jpg

[Ayetooey]

We can't leave out this big fella:

https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13838424_f520.jpg

He was confirmed R1a-M458. The relative they originally tested was a false Tesla (his paternal ancestor took his wifes surname, who was a Tesla). Confirmed paternal relatives were tested R1a.

[Jana]

PH908 defo came from some specific tribe before slavicisation.

Highest diversity is in Ukraine, but many people lived in Ukraine in ancient times.

[Ayetooey]

Highest diversity is in Ukraine, but many people lived in Ukraine in ancient times.

According to one user on anthrogenica; the area of south-west Ukraine where ph908 has its highest diversity had almost no population until the 18th century, and was repopulated from all over the Russian empire so the ph908 there isn't "native". I've no clue how true this is or not since I know nothing about Ukraine's history during those years. But I think it's all meaningless until ancient dna samples are found, since we have 0 medieval ph908 samples.

[Blondie]

Miklós von Horthy (hungarian admiral and statesman) was I2a-Din, he looks very badass:

https://felvidek.ma/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Horthy-1.jpg

[Dick]

Another ph908 map. This one was made by Ph2er I think. Hope he's alright with the repost.

https://i.imgur.com/cVQAk8F.png

that other hotspot in czech?

[Ülev]

unban R1ethel!
he already created thread about 'I' people
:rolleyes:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?203864-Euroaboriginals-squarely-faced-cronegroaustraloids-C1-and-I-how-they-could-look

[Jana]

Miklós von Horthy (hungarian admiral and statesman) was I2a-Din, he looks very badass:

https://felvidek.ma/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Horthy-1.jpg

He looks Croatian. Even Stears sees it.

[Jana]

According to one user on anthrogenica; the area of south-west Ukraine where ph908 has its highest diversity had almost no population until the 18th century, and was repopulated from all over the Russian empire so the ph908 there isn't "native". I've no clue how true this is or not since I know nothing about Ukraine's history during those years. But I think it's all meaningless until ancient dna samples are found, since we have 0 medieval ph908 samples.

I dont know is SW Ukraine with highest divesity or Ukraine in general, recent paper from 2017 mentions it but I am not sure about regions.

Very interesting information.

[Blondie]

He looks Croatian. Even Stears sees it.

He can pass in Serbia too. He looks a little bit south slavic. By the way I've noticed that haplogroup I guys have very robust cro-magnoid face in many times. I think the mesolithic I europeans are mixed with neanderthals a lot. Very manly :)

[Ülev]

I in Ukraine because of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Serbia_(historical_province)

[Enr1989]

I am I-M438 but 23andMe didn't test any further, does anyone know a good dna test and not too expensive too get the subclade only?
I think I heard about one once but cannot remember the company name

[Ayetooey]

I dont know is SW Ukraine with highest divesity or Ukraine in general, recent paper from 2017 mentions it but I am not sure about regions.

Very interesting information.

Yes; he thinks that modern Czechia could be its homeland, possibly from the Prague-Korchak culture. Though it's just a theory since we have no samples from there yet.

[Ayetooey]

I in Ukraine because of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Serbia_(historical_province)

Lol that province is super ironic.


The founder of New Serbia was Jovan Horvat.

[Ayetooey]

I am I-M438 but 23andMe didn't test any further, does anyone know a good dna test and not too expensive too get the subclade only?
I think I heard about one once but cannot remember the company name

FTDNA. There's a sale on atm. Y-37. I think you can personally contact them and by y-12 which is a lot cheaper but I'd suggest 37 or 67.

https://www.familytreedna.com/products/y-dna

[Ülev]

...

[Bellbeaking]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/XSxjtANRiIWm4lYTuigwX1udQyO2tG8Gdzp7f6YUp7M/https/i.imgur.com/K3SxfBf.png?width=265&height=292

[Ayetooey]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/XSxjtANRiIWm4lYTuigwX1udQyO2tG8Gdzp7f6YUp7M/https/i.imgur.com/K3SxfBf.png?width=265&height=292

He's a traitor to all I men.

[MagnusDark]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cbQPJPfJCy4/ThIG7spzxOI/AAAAAAAABgM/VRQoVG_kn8k/s1600/Mark_Henry+6.jpg

Did you say steak?

[Blondie]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/XSxjtANRiIWm4lYTuigwX1udQyO2tG8Gdzp7f6YUp7M/https/i.imgur.com/K3SxfBf.png?width=265&height=292

Looks very Indo-European not haplogroup I master ;)

[Ülev]

Яussian maps

http://xn--c1acc6aafa1c.xn--p1ai/wp-content/uploads/2.21.jpg

http://xn--c1acc6aafa1c.xn--p1ai/wp-content/uploads/2.19.jpg

http://xn--c1acc6aafa1c.xn--p1ai/wp-content/uploads/2.20.jpg

http://генофонд.рф/?page_id=5629

[Ayetooey]

Famous Serb revolutionary Đorđe Petrović was I2a1b-Din North.

https://vanjastojiilkovicistorija.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/karac491orc491e_petrovic4872c_by_vladimir_boroviko vsky2c_1816.jpg?w=336&h=469

[Jana]

He can pass in Serbia too. He looks a little bit south slavic. By the way I've noticed that haplogroup I guys have very robust cro-magnoid face in many times. I think the mesolithic I europeans are mixed with neanderthals a lot. Very manly :)

Yes, this is generally true and I notice it too.
But Stears is I haplogroup too, and I was sure he will be R1a based off his looks (ironically that Romanian who look similar and another Russian who also look similar are both R1a).

[Ülev]

Since those neolithic G lozerz have one. This is a thread for us paternal descendants of Upper Paleolithic Europeans. Map of the percentages of total haplogroup I (I1/I2 combined) throughout Europe and West Asia.

https://i.imgur.com/5xCQUFc.gif

that east Turkish stain is what? I2c?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/PresleyPromo1954PhotoOnly.jpg
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I2_Y-DNA.shtml#famous_people

[Ayetooey]

that east Turkish stain is what? I2c?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/PresleyPromo1954PhotoOnly.jpg
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I2_Y-DNA.shtml#famous_people

The bit in East Turkey is from Kurds who are the west asian pop with the most I2. I've read its mainly I2a plus some I2c, not sure on subclades tho. I'm interested in it myself.

[happycow]

I have a Palestinian cousin who is haplogroup I-M227 but is 0% European on 23andme.

[Dick]

I have a Palestinian cousin who is haplogroup I-M227 but is 0% European on 23andme.

is this him near the bottom?

https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-M227/

[happycow]

is this him near the bottom?

https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-M227/

I'm not sure. It could be. 23andme just says he is I-M227 but isn't more specific.

[Ayetooey]

I have a Palestinian cousin who is haplogroup I-M227 but is 0% European on 23andme.

There's a Palestinian on the Y full tree for that clade of I1. It's probs something medieval from the crusades. After like 5 generations of a pure NW European man mixing with a local Palestinian, and his descendents mixing with other Palestinians, NW European admix would be down to 3.125 percent; another 5 generations, and you're looking at 0.09765625%; which is noise level and would likely not show up on a commercial test. Time from the crusades to now is a lot more than 10 generations; so you can see it's very easy to have a Y dna of European origin, whilst being 0% European autosomally.

[Dick]

There's a Palestinian on the Y full tree for that clade of I1. It's probs something medieval from the crusades. After like 5 generations of a pure NW European man mixing with a local Palestinian, and his descendents mixing with other Palestinians, NW European admix would be down to 3.125 percent; another 5 generations, and you're looking at 0.09765625%; which is noise level and would likely not show up on a commercial test. Time from the crusades to now is a lot more than 10 generations; so you can see it's very easy to have a Y dna of European origin, whilst being 0% European autosomally.

M227 seems to be a Baltic branch though not NW European

[happycow]

There's a Palestinian on the Y full tree for that clade of I1. It's probs something medieval from the crusades. After like 5 generations of a pure NW European man mixing with a local Palestinian, and his descendents mixing with other Palestinians, NW European admix would be down to 3.125 percent; another 5 generations, and you're looking at 0.09765625%; which is noise level and would likely not show up on a commercial test. Time from the crusades to now is a lot more than 10 generations; so you can see it's very easy to have a Y dna of European origin, whilst being 0% European autosomally.

Very true. Great post! :cool:

[Ayetooey]

M227 seems to be a Baltic branch though not NW European

Interesting; I got no clue then. He'd need to test and see his TMRCA with matches and try work it out that way.

[Dick]

Interesting; I got no clue then. He'd need to test and see his TMRCA with matches and try work it out that way.

Maybe Varangians, they traded furs with Levantines. The dude pumped and dumped.

[Rædwald]

https://i.postimg.cc/rwZJQgdx/L233.png

This is my subclade I2a1a2 map thanks to Ph2er I should probably look at a username change :lol:

[Ayetooey]

Maybe Varangians, they traded furs with Levantines. The dude pumped and dumped.

Medieval race mixing. Nice.

[Dick]

Medieval race mixing. Nice.
Boys will be boys.

[Ayetooey]

https://i.postimg.cc/rwZJQgdx/L233.png

This is my subclade I2a1a2 map thanks to Ph2er I should probably look at a username change :lol:

So I'm guessing your clade is paleolithic Brit? There's also I2a1b2a-L38 which is the "cheddarman" clade I believe and the one which the stonehenge builders had. I think its this one.

https://anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23711&d=1528294397

[MiloshN]

Fuk* E-V13

[Dick]

So I'm guessing your clade is paleolithic Brit? There's also I2a1b2a-L38 which is the "cheddarman" clade I believe and the one which the stonehenge builders had. I think its this one.

https://anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23711&d=1528294397

Loschbour man was I2a1b


had dark skin (with a likelihood of 97%), brown or black hair (99%), and likely blue eyes (53%). In contrast to 90% of modern Europeans, he was lactose-intolerant.

Loschbour man contributed ancestry to all Europeans but not to near-Easterners

:laugh2:


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ybd2SED6zx0/ULGPd6UfCgI/AAAAAAAAEx4/Y6z_pyF4oRs/s640/michael-ealy-blue-01.jpg

[Ayetooey]

Loschbour man was I2a1b



:laugh2:


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ybd2SED6zx0/ULGPd6UfCgI/AAAAAAAAEx4/Y6z_pyF4oRs/s640/michael-ealy-blue-01.jpg

Yeah he is our oldest I2a1b sample so far. Slightly older than the Swedish dude.

[Dick]

Yeah he is our oldest I2a1b sample so far. Slightly older than the Swedish dude.

Pure European

[PaleoEuropean]

I1, Part 1 :


Wild Bill Hickok:

https://i.imgur.com/x9CM95t.jpg


Henry Fonda:

https://i.imgur.com/YttvpKP.jpg


Tim Robbins:

https://i.imgur.com/jPtLiaX.jpg


The Quaid brothers:

https://i.imgur.com/f2anbu4.jpg

Alan Jackson:

https://i.imgur.com/bmc1EHK.jpg


Bill Gates:

https://i.imgur.com/IlWb2YO.png


Geoffrey de Mandeville:

https://i.imgur.com/U6zXotV.jpg

[PaleoEuropean]

I1 Part 2:

House of Grimaldi

https://i.imgur.com/wKuGBIQ.jpg


Jimmy Carter:

https://i.imgur.com/lslDljH.jpg


Bill Clinton:

https://i.imgur.com/5KtArrn.png


John Wilkes-Booth

https://i.imgur.com/77O5l9H.png

Fulk FitzWarin

https://i.imgur.com/HVXXaRx.jpg


Sting:

https://i.imgur.com/eS3yTKY.png


Alberic Crescitelli


https://i.imgur.com/cO25LWC.png


Anthony Perkins:

https://i.imgur.com/EjomakW.jpg

[PaleoEuropean]

I1 part 3:

Robert E. Lee

https://i.imgur.com/HOiJF3b.jpg

Stonewall Jackson:

https://i.imgur.com/ayT6DQc.jpg

Siener van Rensburg

https://i.imgur.com/E1rYyhR.png

Theodoros Kolokotronis

https://i.imgur.com/u6nfvqx.jpg

[PaleoEuropean]

I2 Part 1:

Josh Corbett:

https://i.imgur.com/UivNPcB.jpg

Vince Vaughn:

https://i.imgur.com/AZnDghi.jpg

John Tyler:

https://i.imgur.com/ZzJIQ0B.jpg

The Yea Baronets:
https://i.imgur.com/2jFIgvs.png

Jack Nance:

https://i.imgur.com/4sDurke.jpg

[PaleoEuropean]

I2 part 2:

Enda Kenny:

https://i.imgur.com/TJ0Aqey.png

Muhammad Nasiruddin al-Albani:

https://i.imgur.com/whPwQqV.png

House of Hasan-Jalalyan:

https://i.imgur.com/Q7B5CO2.png

Stephen King:

https://i.imgur.com/R6ZNpmr.jpg

[Ülev]

when I-men revenge starts?

[PaleoEuropean]

I2: Part 3

Martin Luther:

https://i.imgur.com/EIf3EZA.jpg


Cristóbal de Torres:

https://i.imgur.com/Dcn6pUh.png

Muḥammad Ḥusayn Kāshif al-Ghiṭa:

https://i.imgur.com/nozd8NC.jpg

William Faulkner:

https://i.imgur.com/7Ceyn76.jpg

John Holmes, Messenger of the Plymouth Court

https://i.imgur.com/Rqm1nrH.jpg


George Armstrong Custer:

https://i.imgur.com/vwkzhzE.jpg

[PaleoEuropean]

I2 Part 4:


Bill Gates:

https://i.imgur.com/IlWb2YO.png


Henry Luce:

https://i.imgur.com/Lw4r5gI.jpg

The House Hauteville:

https://i.imgur.com/s5orW5H.png

Robert Lucas de Pearsall:

https://i.imgur.com/TzLxXAz.png

Karađorđević Dynasty:

https://i.imgur.com/Eck8lg3.jpg

Karađorđe

https://i.imgur.com/TYGwoVS.jpg

[PaleoEuropean]

I2: Part 5:

House of Tsitsishvili

https://i.imgur.com/NXHAViT.jpg

Elvis Presley

https://i.imgur.com/ytGbYdN.jpg


Chuck Norris:

https://i.imgur.com/Rk44kym.jpg


Loschbour Man

https://i.imgur.com/1fM1nyA.jpg


Cheddar Man:

https://i.imgur.com/BL6kc8s.jpg

House of Hohenzollern

https://i.imgur.com/6jHm6S3.jpg

[Vojnik]

How do i find out my subclade? Best way of doing it?

[Rocinante]

R1b is the master haplogroup.

[Ford]

How do i find out my subclade? Best way of doing it?

If you only want to know your subclade then YSEQ is the fastest and cheapest option. Or maybe not that fast for you since you're in Australia.

[PaleoEuropean]

Bill Gates is I2, I put him in I1 as a mistake

[PaleoEuropean]

R1b is the master haplogroup.

I and J were the Indo-European ruling class, R1b are peasant sheep shaggers, R1a are the only R chads.

[TheMaestro]

Bill Gates is I2, I put him in I1 as a mistake

All good, we forgive you, hopefully it never happens again, or you will see consequences.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5d42w4ZcY4

[TheMaestro]

I feel very PlEbish scrolling this mighty thread.

[PaleoEuropean]

How do i find out my subclade? Best way of doing it?

For free: https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

Paid, I hear FTDNA is the best in that regard, surprising considering how garbage their ADNA service is.

[Rocinante]

I and J were the Indo-European ruling class, R1b are peasant sheep shaggers, R1a are the only R chads.

R1a are the bastard son of R, our nigger brother would be R2 and R1b is the master haplogroup.

[PaleoEuropean]

I feel very PlEbish scrolling this mighty thread.

It's okay, you blacc too dawg

[PaleoEuropean]

R1a are the bastard son of R, our nigger brother would be R2 and R1b is the master haplogroup.

r1b are triracial mexicans dawgs

[PaleoEuropean]

Keep clam man, don't be like them

Celts iz weak dawg.

[Senpai]

Never did Y DNA testing, but my paper trail (Which unfortunately could be a little off) leads me to a paternal ancestor who's descendants score I1.

[Rocinante]

r1b are triracial mexicans dawgs

Hahahaha, good mexicans are all R1b. I1 chinks not.


Keep clam man, don't be like them

I'm just playing with him, don't worry.

[Vojnik]

For free: https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

Paid, I hear FTDNA is the best in that regard, surprising considering how garbage their ADNA service is.

This is my most likely subclade according to that site.

I2a1bI2-CTS11030
(I2-CTS1293,
I2-CTS176)


Whatever that all means.

[Senpai]

This is my most likely subclade according to that site.

I2a1bI2-CTS11030
(I2-CTS1293,
I2-CTS176)


Whatever that all means.

Who did you raw dna?

[Vojnik]

Who did you raw dna?


I've got raw DNA from both FTDNA and 23andme. That particular one that i ran through Morley was 23andme raw data.

[Senpai]

I've got raw DNA from both FTDNA and 23andme. That particular one that i ran through Morley was 23andme raw data.

I only have FTDNA, Morley doesn't run it do they?

[PaleoEuropean]

I1: Part 4:

Olaf II of Denmark & Norway (1370-1387)

Haakon VI of Sweden & Norway (1340-1380)


Valdemar I of Sweden (1239–1302)


Magnus III of Sweden


Birger I of Sweden (1280-1321)


Valdemar, Duke of Finland


Magnus IV of Sweden (1316-1374)


Eric XII of Sweden (1339-1359)


Haakon VI of Sweden & Norway (1340-1380)


The House of Bruce/Clan Bruce:


https://i.imgur.com/ZBtmT0k.jpg



Nas:


http://i.imgur.com/dplz9fs.jpg (https://imgur.com/dplz9fs)


Aubrey Beardsley:


https://i.imgur.com/w5nny7B.jpg


Richard Buckminster-Fuller:

https://i.imgur.com/yeNBIRw.jpg

Šimon the Varangian

https://i.imgur.com/pN4psBI.jpg


Emmanuel Swedenborg

https://i.imgur.com/zjj6q1B.jpg

[PaleoEuropean]

I only have FTDNA, Morley doesn't run it do they?

I am not sure, but there are converters out there, Idk if any work anymore though.

[Vojnik]

I only have FTDNA, Morley doesn't run it do they?

That should work i believe.

Run it through. It only takes a couple of seconds to generate.

https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

[Senpai]

I am not sure, but there are converters out there, Idk if any work anymore though.

Yeah, ive yet to find an estimator that works with FTDNA for free.

[PaleoEuropean]

Never did Y DNA testing, but my paper trail (Which unfortunately could be a little off) leads me to a paternal ancestor who's descendants score I1.

If I had to guess based off looks I would guess I, you look cromagnoid as hell.

[PaleoEuropean]

Yeah, ive yet to find an estimator that works with FTDNA for free.

You might be able to upload to my heritage for free and then download their raw data. I wouldn't pay to try it because if it doesn't work it won't be worth it.

[Vojnik]

If I had to guess based off looks I would guess I, you look cromagnoid as hell.

https://media.sciencephoto.com/image/c0208160/800wm

[Ion Basescul]

How do i find out my subclade? Best way of doing it?

https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=11788&osCsid=3938ae6cd354b706a7ed4d3c5e0510ec

[Ion Basescul]

Nas:


http://i.imgur.com/dplz9fs.jpg (https://imgur.com/dplz9fs)



No wonder his music clicks with me.

[Rocinante]

[QUOTE=PaleoEuropean;6651019]The House of Bruce/Clan Bruce:


https://i.imgur.com/ZBtmT0k.jpg

I thought that the Clan Bruce was R1b-L21, R1b-DF19 or R1b-U106.

[PaleoEuropean]

[QUOTE=PaleoEuropean;6651019]The House of Bruce/Clan Bruce:


https://i.imgur.com/ZBtmT0k.jpg

I thought that the Clan Bruce was R1b-L21, R1b-DF19 or R1b-U106.

He is I1

[PaleoEuropean]

No wonder his music clicks with me.

Yea he has a lot more skill than most rappers even in his day.

[Senpai]

https://media.sciencephoto.com/image/c0208160/800wm

it me

[Senpai]

If I had to guess based off looks I would guess I, you look cromagnoid as hell.

CM ganggang

I imagine most my ancestors are R1b though, would make sense geographically.

[PaleoEuropean]

I2 Part 6:


The Dukes of Hamilton/Clan Hamilton:

https://i.imgur.com/FK6362O.png
https://i.imgur.com/GmxYzV1.jpg

Oliver Winchester:

https://i.imgur.com/Ji3ckL7.jpg


Miles Standish

https://i.imgur.com/ge6r03x.jpg


Calvin Coolidge:

https://i.imgur.com/9QNVsUA.jpg

Paul Reynaud
https://i.imgur.com/5jz7nG0.jpg




Sir Henry Clinton:

https://i.imgur.com/8nM89In.jpg

Napoleon III

https://i.imgur.com/QQkB8cf.jpg

Miklós Horthy

https://i.imgur.com/6vEUyW3.jpg

[Brutus]

I1 falling short in front of I2.
Any famous Z63??

[zebruh]

One of my family lines is I2 on my dads side. Its not my direct line tho.

[PaleoEuropean]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb6j2iPcUDI

[Ion Basescul]

An "I" approved video that "R"ajasthanis hate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTCDs9f0T28

[PaleoEuropean]

All Neolithic culture could have been a product of Britain and the Dogger survivors.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvOcK4wfIHo

[FountainOfSalmacis]

R-Z19 here. Apparently it’s a subclade of R1b which I share with King Louis XVI according to 23andme.

[Illyrius]

Don't mind this random R1a carrier raiding here:

https://image.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/scythian-archer-historical-illustration-260nw-1261073665.jpg
Don't mind the random R1b Roman citizen who's a pacifist that happens to walk by

[Illyrius]

Haplogroup I master race in Europe:

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup_I1.gif

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-I2b.gif

https://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup_I2a.gif

The true White Haplogroup
R is a turkic marker

[Rethel]

The true White Haplogroup
R is a turkic marker

What did you smoke?

[Illyrius]

What did you smoke?

Common sense i guess.

[Rethel]

Common sense i guess.

Rather common nonsense.
This what you claimed contradicts everything what is known from
history, archeology, lingustics, anthropology and especially... from
genetics and yet more especially from arechogenetics.

[Lemminkäinen]

Fennoscandinavian proto-Europeans (I1) protected Finnish N1c in R1a wars.

https://images.cdn.tiede.fi/_v51YN4EKR3_OoITPXGR7agYV8k=/890x0/smart/filters:no_upscale()/tiede.fi/s3fs-public/discussion_comment_image/map_haplogroups_0.jpg?itok=GcqCW2lS