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Bellbeaking
08-08-2019, 04:32 PM
As atypical.

Kieran Trippier
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/95810-1517913986.jpg
https://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/58/photos/557000/620x/Kieron-Trippier-England-712129.jpg
https://playerswiki.com/uploads/thumb/kieran-trippier-300-300.png

Barkley
https://i2-prod.football.london/incoming/article16660905.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200b/0_Ross-Barkley.jpg
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/Ross-barkley-514025.jpg
http://endz2endz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Ross-Barkley.jpg?w=640

Where do they pass?

Sp_loa
08-08-2019, 04:36 PM
First one yes but the nose is extremely atypical. There are some head heads in the Atlas but they never have such nose.

Second one looks European to me, but again the nose is extremely atypical.

Rico33
08-08-2019, 04:49 PM
I never seen such north Africans. Not even among those lighter ones.

Ayetooey
08-08-2019, 04:55 PM
Off topic but I wonder how many half black/white men/women end up mixing with full white people in the UK. I wonder if in the future London in particular will have a lot of people with more minor amounts of SSA like 1/8th or 1/16th; considering most blacks in London race mix and it seems like a lot of them race mix again. I've known a few 25% black 75% white mixes in school/work; one I know was already euro passing, but has now had a kid with a fully White girl and the kid looks 100% NW Euro, is even blonde and blue eyed.

Phenix
08-08-2019, 05:10 PM
As very atypical, I can only think about two regions here where such phenotypes are somewhat existing.

Bellbeaking
08-08-2019, 05:27 PM
As very atypical, I can only think about two regions here where such phenotypes are somewhat existing.

What regions?

Phenix
08-08-2019, 05:33 PM
What regions?

Central and Eastern high plateaus. Their population have once in awhile this reddish or blondish Quadroon-like phenotype but with less angular faces.

TheMaestro
08-08-2019, 05:37 PM
Nope, people saying yes would just lie.
The truth is, that I never even knew these two players were mixed, just found out recently.

Adamastor
08-08-2019, 05:39 PM
Off topic but I wonder how many half black/white men/women end up mixing with full white people in the UK. I wonder if in the future London in particular will have a lot of people with more minor amounts of SSA like 1/8th or 1/16th; considering most blacks in London race mix and it seems like a lot of them race mix again. I've known a few 25% black 75% white mixes in school/work; one I know was already euro passing, but has now had a kid with a fully White girl and the kid looks 100% NW Euro, is even blonde and blue eyed.

Some sections of English people (and also French) will end up like some white Cubans/Brazilians/Puerto Ricans. White looking but scoring some amount of SSA.

Racial mixture with blacks in these places exist among self-declared whites because some mulattoes and quadroons in the colonial times married full white persons and had white looking kids. Then these white looking kids married other white looking people with similar background and the admixture stabilized at around 5% in the case of White Cubans and White Brazilians (Puerto Ricans have more SSA + Amerindian on average). It's probably similar among White South Africans (all of them score some SSA).

Ayetooey
08-08-2019, 05:43 PM
Nope, people saying yes would just lie.
The truth is, that I never even knew these two players were mixed, just found out recently.

Same; I just thought they were both White Brits honestly.

Ayetooey
08-08-2019, 05:46 PM
Some sections of English people (and also French) will end up like some white Cubans/Brazilians/Puerto Ricans. White looking but scoring some amount of SSA.

Racial mixture with blacks in these places exist among self-declared whites because some mulattoes and quadroons in the colonial times married full white persons and had white looking kids. Then these white looking kids married other white looking people with similar background and the admixture stabilized at around 5% in the case of White Cubans and White Brazilians (Puerto Ricans have more SSA + Amerindian on average). It's probably similar among White South Africans (all of them score some SSA).

I agree; we already have as many White/Black Caribbean mixes declared in our census data than pure Black Caribbeans, and over 50% of Black Caribbean men in the UK race mix; with a good portion of the ones already mixed, mixing further with whites. We'll end up in the future in all likeliness with millions of White passing Brits with minor SSA admix.

Phenix
08-08-2019, 05:48 PM
Nope, people saying yes would just lie.
The truth is, that I never even knew these two players were mixed, just found out recently.

They obviously have some recent SSA ancestor, more like Octoroon than Quadroon.

Phenix
08-08-2019, 05:50 PM
I agree; we already have as many White/Black Caribbean mixes declared in our census data than pure Black Caribbeans, and over 50% of Black Caribbean men in the UK race mix; with a good portion of the ones already mixed, mixing further with whites. We'll end up in the future in all likeliness with millions of White passing Brits with minor SSA admix.

You'll become Nafris like Saint-Teutone predicted.