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Voskos
08-10-2019, 08:23 AM
https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41598-018-33714-2/MediaObjects/41598_2018_33714_Fig2_HTML.png
Ülev
08-10-2019, 08:26 AM
yeah
R1a, RATHA YATRA IN KIEV, UKRAINE


R1a strong bond!


The chariot festival of Ratha Yatra was held along the main street of Kiev on May 26, just on the day of the city. The holiday lasted for about 4 hours. More than 600 devotees of Krishna took part in the beautiful procession. Also, many passers-by stopped, watching the procession and at the same time receiving darshan of Lord Jagannatha, Baladeva and Subhadra. Listening to the holy names of the Lord and receiving the divine apples as a gift which were previously offered to the Lord. There were also amazing dances. Everyone was happy.
montage: Yamuna Jivana das


https://youtu.be/gS0PqUehMlQ
Artek
08-13-2019, 07:21 PM
R1a is nowhere that frequent in India unless we test specific groups.
Dick
08-13-2019, 07:22 PM
No I1?
Artek
08-13-2019, 07:33 PM
No I1?
Anglos weren't really productive there ;).

But what surprises me - no R2, no C. R2 should make up ~15%. C is reported to be ~3-5%. These graphs don't even show Brahmin Y-DNA variety. Where is the data from?
Ayetooey
08-13-2019, 07:34 PM
How is there I2a in south and east india?
Dick
08-13-2019, 07:35 PM
Anglos weren't really productive there ;).

But what surprises me - no R2, no C. R2 should make up ~15%. C is reported to be ~3-5%. These graphs don't even show Brahmin Y-DNA variety. Where is the data from?

It was a serious question :) how come they have e-v13 etc?
Ayetooey
08-13-2019, 07:36 PM
It was a serious question :) how come they have e-v13 etc?

E-v13 comes from Alexander the greats incursions, there was some study about it ages ago.

Curious what clade this I2a is, and why its in the south and the east but not the north or west.
Artek
08-13-2019, 07:47 PM
How is there I2a in south and east india?
I2-M223 is found among individuals in India and Pakistan but I doubt that it reaches 1% anywhere.
MagnusDark
08-14-2019, 12:36 PM
How is there I2a in south and east india?

Probably different from I2a1b. May be a Caucasus type variety.
Thambi
08-14-2019, 12:48 PM
I think these are brahmin averages from each region. R1a cant be more than 1/3 for any given region in india if we take all castes into account.
Jana
08-14-2019, 01:22 PM
High frequency of J2b2 in India is very telling. It is for sure bronze age marker that came with Indo-Europeans.
MagnusDark
08-14-2019, 06:14 PM
High frequency of J2b2 in India is very telling. It is for sure bronze age marker that came with Indo-Europeans.

Possibly Paleo-Balkan left overs with Alexanders army, or earlier Indo-European split that went with the Indo-Aryan waves of R1a further east, whilst the remainder went predominantly South-East. I guess that depends when their clades split from Paleo-Balkan J2b2.
Ayetooey
08-14-2019, 06:20 PM
Original study.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-33714-2#Fig2
Jana
08-14-2019, 06:37 PM
Possibly Paleo-Balkan left overs with Alexanders army, or earlier Indo-European split that went with the Indo-Aryan waves of R1a further east, whilst the remainder went predominantly South-East. I guess that depends when their clades split from Paleo-Balkan J2b2.

My guess is they are different clades from IE invaders.
MagnusDark
08-14-2019, 09:25 PM
My guess is they are different clades from IE invaders.

If that is the case, then J2b2 would have also been present with Indo-Aryans. Other than with Indo-Aryan R1a-Z93 I don’t see when it would come up again unless with Alexander’s army. .
Leto
08-14-2019, 09:53 PM
J2 might be easily Iranian.