Turk from Trabzon Gedmatch results

[Sora]

Kit number: Z918587

Dodecad k12b

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 50.86
2 Gedrosia 17.69
3 Atlantic_Med 12.14
4 Southwest_Asian 11.26
5 North_European 5.45
6 Siberian 1.71


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Armenian_Dodecad @ 6.782559
2 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 6.951256
3 Turks_Behar @ 7.377834
4 Turkish_Dodecad @ 8.297177
5 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 8.862677
6 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 9.392615
7 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 9.541426
8 Armenians_Behar @ 9.751282
9 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 10.634554
10 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 13.829999
11 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 15.262751
12 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 15.319570
13 Druze_HGDP @ 15.797042
14 Cypriots_Behar @ 16.165844
15 Kurd_Dodecad @ 16.707787
16 Iranian_Dodecad @ 17.120237
17 Lebanese_Behar @ 17.814396
18 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 19.166538
19 Iranians_Behar @ 21.051325
20 Adygei_HGDP @ 21.985796

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian_Dodecad +50% Turks_Behar @ 3.041369


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenians_Behar +25% Iranian_Dodecad +25% Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.779920

Harappaworld

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 51.83
2 Baloch 16.33
3 Mediterranean 11.77
4 SW-Asian 10.66
5 NE-Euro 6.60
6 Siberian 1.49
7 S-Indian 1.19


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 armenian_behar @ 6.845174
2 turk_behar @ 6.856508
3 turk-kayseri_hodoglugil @ 7.467936
4 armenian_yunusbayev @ 7.535145
5 armenian_harappa @ 8.209421
6 turk-istanbul_hodoglugil @ 8.919919
7 azerbaijan-jew_behar @ 9.326217
8 azeri_harappa @ 9.693513
9 turkish_harappa @ 9.818432
10 assyrian_harappa @ 10.338816
11 georgia-jew_behar @ 10.624217
12 uzbekistan-jew_behar @ 11.745575
13 lebanese-druze_haber @ 13.666326
14 kurd_yunusbayev @ 13.810350
15 cypriot_behar @ 13.838121
16 iranian-jew_behar @ 14.415268
17 lebanese-muslim_haber @ 14.693437
18 iraq-jew_behar @ 15.201147
19 iraqi-mandaean_harappa @ 15.271660
20 lebanese-christian_haber @ 15.689114

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% armenian_behar +50% turk-kayseri_hodoglugil @ 2.664547


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% armenian_yunusbayev +25% north-ossetian_yunusbayev +25% sephardic-jew_behar @ 2.199522

Eurogenes k13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 36.99
2 East_Med 35.56
3 West_Med 15.71
4 Baltic 3.53
5 Red_Sea 2.31
6 North_Atlantic 1.95
7 South_Asian 1.93
8 Siberian 1.11


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Armenian @ 5.607709
2 Georgian_Jewish @ 7.986118
3 Assyrian @ 9.522224
4 Turkish @ 12.090797
5 Kurdish @ 13.705001
6 Azeri @ 13.776379
7 Kurdish_Jewish @ 14.025444
8 Iranian_Jewish @ 14.784095
9 Iranian @ 16.494242
10 Lebanese_Muslim @ 17.454977
11 Cyprian @ 19.421200
12 Syrian @ 20.059727
13 Georgian @ 21.376785
14 Abhkasian @ 22.354969
15 Lebanese_Druze @ 22.627344
16 Lebanese_Christian @ 22.725599
17 Kumyk @ 22.840836
18 Samaritan @ 24.411684
19 Adygei @ 24.670652
20 Jordanian @ 24.821295

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Abhkasian +50% Cyprian @ 4.998079


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Abhkasian +25% Cyprian +25% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.884397

[SharpFork]

So little East Eurasian, Laz?

[Sora]

According o results, they're mostly assimilated Laz or Armenians...

But there are the ones who are outlier also.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JEezl8YoZjOoNqnMoha9sWdMsvIwYYmV5ccljTkhryQ/edit#gid=0

Trabzon samples are divided into 3 group at this project; Trabzon_A, Trabzon_B and Trabzon_C.

Trabzon_C samples are from Western provinces like Akçaabat, Şalpazarı, Beşikdüzü

*Source: https://twitter.com/turkdnaproject?lang=tr

[Sora]

So little East Eurasian, Laz?

No, s/he's Turkish but probably assimilated centuries ago

[Bunalim]

So little East Eurasian, Laz?

They definitely have some kind of Turkic influence in their admixture.

[SharpFork]

They definitely have some kind of Turkic influence in their admixture.
Seems less than 10% Central Asian influence, which is pretty little.

[Nomad]

Some Armenian groups went to safe areas(Arab attacks on East Anatolia)and joined local Georgian/Laz and Greek communities.

[Ayetooey]

They definitely have some kind of Turkic influence in their admixture.

1% Siberian is less than most Slavs score; Siberian component is part caucasoid also it has ANE. Unless it’s coupled with some noticeable East Asian it’s probs just ancient.

[Marmara]

So little East Eurasian, Laz?

Pontian.

[Leto]

1% Siberian is less than most Slavs score; Siberian component is part caucasoid also it has ANE. Unless it’s coupled with some noticeable East Asian it’s probs just ancient.
No, it is not part Caucasoid. It is based on Yakut and Evenk people of Eastern Siberia.

This person is mostly local in terms of ancestry, very little Turkic.

[Ayetooey]

No, it is not part Caucasoid. It is based on Yakut and Evenk people of Eastern Siberia.

This person is mostly local in terms of ancestry, very little Turkic.
Both of whom are part Caucasoid; as are all Siberian (and Amerindian) people.

My point stands; Serbs often score 1-2% Siberian; I've seen Czechs score 1.5%, and Russians score even more.

[Leto]

Both of whom are part Caucasoid; as are all Siberian (and Amerindian) people.

Yakuts are around 90% East Eurasian, some possibly even more. Evens and Evenks (Tungusic peoples) are virtually 100% EE.


My point stands; Serbs often score 1-2% Siberian; I've seen Czechs score 1.5%, and Russians score even more.
Yes, this is true. In Russians up to 10% is normal.

[Zoro]

According o results, they're mostly assimilated Laz or Armenians...

But there are the ones who are outlier also.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JEezl8YoZjOoNqnMoha9sWdMsvIwYYmV5ccljTkhryQ/edit#gid=0


Trabzon samples are divided into 3 group at this project; Trabzon_A, Trabzon_B and Trabzon_C.

Trabzon_C samples are from Western provinces like Akçaabat, Şalpazarı, Beşikdüzü

*Source: https://twitter.com/turkdnaproject?lang=tr

There’s 1 Iraqi Kurd kit with even lower Siberian on Dodecad k12 but that one has 1.75% E/SE Asian instead and 2.6% S. Asian which this doesn’t. So Trabazon people may be Orginally Armenians with a little Turkic since Turkic has Siberian

It’s interesting that they are missing the E. Asian and S.Asian that Kurds, Azeris and other people from the area have. Somehow they were isolated from the E. Asian admixture that affected their neighbors. I wouldn’t take those calculators percentages as the absolute truth though.

[Dorian]

There’s 1 Iraqi Kurd kit with even lower Siberian on Dodecad k12 but that one has 1.75% E/SE Asian instead and 2.6% S. Asian which this doesn’t. So Trabazon people may be Orginally Armenians with a little Turkic since Turkic has Siberian

It’s interesting that they are missing the E. Asian and S.Asian that Kurds, Azeris and other people from the area have. Somehow they were isolated from the E. Asian admixture that affected their neighbors. I wouldn’t take those calculators percentages as the absolute truth though.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/9ViB6pTUWXRYwVDrJx/giphy.gif

[Leto]

They definitely have some kind of Turkic influence in their admixture.
Basically as much as you do. Hopefully you got it over with completely and don't identify as a Turk any longer. You are literally ZERO Turkic.

[Nomad]

Basically as much as you do. Hopefully you got it over with completely and don't identify as a Turk any longer. You are literally ZERO Turkic.

Me too?:1127:

[Leto]

Me too?:1127:
Who are you? And what are you? I don't fucking know you.

[Sora]

Me too?

Which district of Trabzon are you from?

[Leto]

I must admit this person does seem to have a bit of 'Turkic' in him.

MDLP K23b Oracle results:

Kit Z918587

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 59.33
2 South_Central_Asian 14.19
3 European_Early_Farmers 9.36
4 Near_East 5.55
5 North_African 2.98
6 European_Hunters_Gatherers 2.48
7 Tungus-Altaic 1.4
8 Australoid 1.19
9 Paleo_Siberian 1.13
10 Ancestral_Altaic 0.69
11 South_Indian 0.6
12 Amerindian 0.5
13 Archaic_Human 0.34
14 South_East_Asian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turk_Trabzon ( ) 3.77
2 Kakheti ( ) 11.29
3 Georgian ( ) 11.65
4 Adjara ( ) 12.14
5 Georgian_Megrelia ( ) 12.64
6 Abkhasian ( ) 12.69
7 Georgian_Svan ( ) 13.88
8 Armenian ( ) 14.28
9 Georgian_Tbilisi ( ) 14.7
10 Georgian_Imereti ( ) 14.91
11 Armenian_Yerevan ( ) 15.04
12 Georgian_Laz ( ) 15.64
13 Circassian ( ) 16.58
14 Ossetian ( ) 16.79
15 Assyrian_Arzni ( ) 16.79
16 Balkar ( ) 17.49
17 North_Ossetian ( ) 17.92
18 Adygei ( ) 18.28
19 Druze ( ) 21.38
20 Kabardin ( ) 21.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.9% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 25.1% Sicilian_West ( ) @ 2.38
2 74.5% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 25.5% Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) @ 2.45
3 75.1% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 24.9% Sicilian_Trapani ( ) @ 2.48
4 73% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 27% French_Jew ( ) @ 2.59
5 84.4% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 15.6% Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) @ 2.63
6 83.2% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 16.8% Portugese ( ) @ 2.64
7 75.1% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 24.9% Maltese ( ) @ 2.66
8 72.3% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 27.7% Sicilian_East ( ) @ 2.67
9 68.9% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 31.1% Cretan ( ) @ 2.71
10 67.4% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 32.6% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.76
11 84.3% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 15.7% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) @ 2.76
12 84% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 16% Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) @ 2.76
13 73.4% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 26.6% Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) @ 2.79
14 84.1% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 15.9% Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) @ 2.8
15 84.2% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 15.8% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) @ 2.82
16 73.3% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 26.7% Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) @ 2.82
17 73.6% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 26.4% Sephardic_Jew ( ) @ 2.84
18 75.7% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 24.3% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) @ 2.89
19 83.6% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 16.4% Spaniard ( ) @ 2.96
20 71.7% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 28.3% Ashkenazi ( ) @ 2.96


Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 36.99
2 East_Med 35.56
3 West_Med 15.71
4 Baltic 3.53
5 Red_Sea 2.31
6 North_Atlantic 1.95
7 South_Asian 1.93
8 Siberian 1.11
9 East_Asian 0.79
10 Northeast_African 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian 5.1
2 Georgian_Jewish 7.39
3 Assyrian 8.55
4 Turkish 10.67
5 Kurdish 12.22
6 Azeri 12.29
7 Kurdish_Jewish 12.59
8 Iranian_Jewish 13.21
9 Iranian 14.84
10 Lebanese_Muslim 15.47
11 Cyprian 16.91
12 Syrian 17.97
13 Georgian 18.42
14 Abhkasian 19.27
15 Lebanese_Druze 19.67
16 Kumyk 19.9
17 Lebanese_Christian 19.91
18 Adygei 21.36
19 Samaritan 21.49
20 Balkar 22.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.4% Cyprian + 46.6% Abhkasian @ 4.28
2 95.2% Armenian + 4.8% Sardinian @ 4.43
3 92.6% Armenian + 7.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.51
4 93.7% Armenian + 6.3% Bulgarian @ 4.52
5 91.1% Armenian + 8.9% Central_Greek @ 4.52
6 87.6% Armenian + 12.4% Cyprian @ 4.56
7 92.1% Armenian + 7.9% Ashkenazi @ 4.57
8 91.4% Armenian + 8.6% South_Italian @ 4.59
9 92% Armenian + 8% East_Sicilian @ 4.61
10 94.6% Armenian + 5.4% Romanian @ 4.62
11 92.4% Armenian + 7.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.65
12 95.6% Armenian + 4.4% Moldavian @ 4.66
13 96.7% Armenian + 3.3% Erzya @ 4.67
14 96.5% Armenian + 3.5% Ukrainian @ 4.67
15 96% Armenian + 4% Croatian @ 4.69
16 93.6% Armenian + 6.4% West_Sicilian @ 4.69
17 95.4% Armenian + 4.6% Serbian @ 4.69
18 96.6% Armenian + 3.4% Southwest_Russian @ 4.7
19 96.8% Armenian + 3.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.7
20 96.9% Armenian + 3.1% Estonian_Polish @ 4.72

[SharpFork]

Yes, this is true. In Russians up to 10% is normal.
Even excluding North/Artic Russians?

[Nomad]

Which district of Trabzon are you from?

Surmene and Of from maternal side

[Leto]

Even excluding North/Artic Russians?
Including Northern and Ural Russians (those with Tatar, Chuvash and recent Finno-Ugric ancestry may have more of course). Russians as a whole would be around 5% EE.

My mother (western and central parts of Kirov oblast)

Population
South_Asian 0.86 Pct
West_Asian 14.32 Pct
Siberian 8.47 Pct
African -
Southern 5.89 Pct
Atlantic_Baltic 69.71 Pct
East_Asian 0.75 Pct

[Sora]

Surmene and Of from maternal side

Then your Mongoloid percentage may be quite low.

Well, which district are you from by paternal side?

[Leto]

Then your Mongoloid percentage may be quite low.

Well, which district are you from by paternal side?
I don't know much but the Black Sea region seems quite diverse. Giresun is one of the most mongoloid in the whole of Turkey, I believe. Why is that? Other parts are straight up assimilated natives like Bunalim's paternal side (zero Mongoloid).

[Marmara]

I don't know much but the Black Sea region seems quite diverse. Giresun is one of the most mongoloid in the whole of Turkey, I believe. Why is that? Other parts are straight up assimilated natives like Bunalim's paternal side (zero Mongoloid).

Pontic Greek converts + Laz, but only Eastern Black Sea region, Giresun has one of highest EE admixture and rest of Black Sea region is the same as Central Anatolia.

[Sora]

I don't know much but the Black Sea region seems quite diverse. Giresun is one of the most mongoloid in the whole of Turkey, I believe. Why is that? Other parts are straight up assimilated natives like Bunalim's paternal side (zero Mongoloid).

It's probably because many of Chepni(an Oghuz clan) Turks were settled in Central Blacksea("northern" Giresun, Ordu, "western" Trabzon) coasts more...

[Sora]

I don't know much but the Black Sea region seems quite diverse. Giresun is one of the most mongoloid in the whole of Turkey, I believe. Why is that? Other parts are straight up assimilated natives like Bunalim's paternal side (zero Mongoloid).

And Chepnis are Turks who have the most Mongoloid genes(at least 13%)

*Source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JEezl8YoZjOoNqnMoha9sWdMsvIwYYmV5ccljTkhryQ/edit#gid=0

(it's irrelevant but) Also according to this chart, my hometown(Tokat) has 4%-12% Mongoloid genes. Whereas I was waiting lower...

[Nomad]

And Chepnis are Turks who have the most Mongoloid genes(at least 13%)

*Source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JEezl8YoZjOoNqnMoha9sWdMsvIwYYmV5ccljTkhryQ/edit#gid=0

(it's irrelevant but) Also according to this chart, my hometown(Tokat) has 4%-12% Mongoloid genes. Whereas I was waiting lower...

No :D My ancestral village is Karakoç,that settlement established by Sheikh Karakoç(Turkic dervishes) and i have Laz/Georgian,Turkish,Romani and Turkmen roots both from paternal and maternal side.

Thats why i have Caucasian skin,Turkish face and Tatar hairs+eyes :1127:

[Sora]

No My ancestral village is Karakoç,that settlement established by Sheikh Karakoç(Turkic dervishes) and i have Laz/Georgian,Turkish,Romani and Turkmen roots both from paternal and maternal side.

Thats why i have Caucasian skin,Turkish face and Tatar hairs+eyes

Well, where is the Karakoç village?

[Nomad]

in the Erzurum-Bayburt border,i began to search my ancestry two years ago when someone asked me