East Prussian German kit (Eurogenes K13+K36 map)

[Matxe92]

Eurogenes K13

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 47.22
2 North_Atlantic 23.04
3 West_Med 11.9
4 West_Asian 11.41
5 Amerindian 2.53
6 South_Asian 1.5
7 Siberian 1.07
8 Red_Sea 0.81
9 Oceanian 0.45
10 East_Med 0.08

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Belgorod 7.2
2 Southwest_Russian 8.14
3 Russian_Smolensk 8.32
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.69
5 Ukrainian 8.75
6 Kargopol_Russian 9.07
7 Polish 9.32
8 Estonian_Polish 9.42
9 Erzya 9.62
10 Belorussian 10.81
11 South_Polish 10.92
12 Lithuanian 11.23
13 Estonian 13.14
14 Croatian 13.93
15 East_Finnish 15.13
16 Finnish 15.45
17 Moldavian 15.53
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.26
19 Hungarian 18.63
20 East_German 19.85

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.5% Lithuanian + 17.5% Kabardin @ 5.79
2 83.2% Lithuanian + 16.8% Balkar @ 5.81
3 84.2% Lithuanian + 15.8% Ossetian @ 5.86
4 83.7% Lithuanian + 16.3% North_Ossetian @ 5.96
5 83.6% Lithuanian + 16.4% Adygei @ 6.05
6 85.7% Lithuanian + 14.3% Georgian @ 6.12
7 86.2% Lithuanian + 13.8% Abhkasian @ 6.12
8 82.7% Lithuanian + 17.3% Chechen @ 6.28
9 83% Lithuanian + 17% Kumyk @ 6.37
10 90% Russian_Smolensk + 10% Kabardin @ 6.63
11 55.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 44.6% Erzya @ 6.64
12 90.8% Russian_Smolensk + 9.2% North_Ossetian @ 6.68
13 90.6% Russian_Smolensk + 9.4% Balkar @ 6.7
14 94.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 5.8% MA-1 @ 6.73
15 91.3% Russian_Smolensk + 8.7% Ossetian @ 6.75
16 97.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 2.2% Mayan @ 6.78
17 90.2% Russian_Smolensk + 9.8% Chechen @ 6.78
18 90.9% Russian_Smolensk + 9.1% Adygei @ 6.79
19 83% Lithuanian + 17% Tabassaran @ 6.79
20 97.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 2.1% Pima @ 6.81


https://i.imgur.com/96KonXd.jpg

[Ayetooey]

Dat baltic tho. Whats his Y dna?

[Matxe92]

Dat baltic tho. Whats his Y dna?

...

[Cumansky]

Baltic from Lithuanian side

[Matxe92]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C3eHAQIgyM&list=RD4C3eHAQIgyM&start_radio=1
Every east prussian german kit

[Slavic Italian]

Eurogenes K13

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 47.22
2 North_Atlantic 23.04
3 West_Med 11.9
4 West_Asian 11.41
5 Amerindian 2.53
6 South_Asian 1.5
7 Siberian 1.07
8 Red_Sea 0.81
9 Oceanian 0.45
10 East_Med 0.08

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Belgorod 7.2
2 Southwest_Russian 8.14
3 Russian_Smolensk 8.32
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.69
5 Ukrainian 8.75
6 Kargopol_Russian 9.07
7 Polish 9.32
8 Estonian_Polish 9.42
9 Erzya 9.62
10 Belorussian 10.81
11 South_Polish 10.92
12 Lithuanian 11.23
13 Estonian 13.14
14 Croatian 13.93
15 East_Finnish 15.13
16 Finnish 15.45
17 Moldavian 15.53
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.26
19 Hungarian 18.63
20 East_German 19.85

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.5% Lithuanian + 17.5% Kabardin @ 5.79
2 83.2% Lithuanian + 16.8% Balkar @ 5.81
3 84.2% Lithuanian + 15.8% Ossetian @ 5.86
4 83.7% Lithuanian + 16.3% North_Ossetian @ 5.96
5 83.6% Lithuanian + 16.4% Adygei @ 6.05
6 85.7% Lithuanian + 14.3% Georgian @ 6.12
7 86.2% Lithuanian + 13.8% Abhkasian @ 6.12
8 82.7% Lithuanian + 17.3% Chechen @ 6.28
9 83% Lithuanian + 17% Kumyk @ 6.37
10 90% Russian_Smolensk + 10% Kabardin @ 6.63
11 55.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 44.6% Erzya @ 6.64
12 90.8% Russian_Smolensk + 9.2% North_Ossetian @ 6.68
13 90.6% Russian_Smolensk + 9.4% Balkar @ 6.7
14 94.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 5.8% MA-1 @ 6.73
15 91.3% Russian_Smolensk + 8.7% Ossetian @ 6.75
16 97.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 2.2% Mayan @ 6.78
17 90.2% Russian_Smolensk + 9.8% Chechen @ 6.78
18 90.9% Russian_Smolensk + 9.1% Adygei @ 6.79
19 83% Lithuanian + 17% Tabassaran @ 6.79
20 97.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 2.1% Pima @ 6.81


https://i.imgur.com/96KonXd.jpg

Kit number?

[Lucas]

Kit number?

this

[Scandal]

Looks like an east slavic result.

[Scandal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C3eHAQIgyM&list=RD4C3eHAQIgyM&start_radio=1
Every east prussian german kit

I wonder if east Prussians existed today, how would they be perceived by german nationalists? I remember Teutone and Lawspeaker didn't like Poles and East Slavs. Teutone also expressed dislike for East Germans who are much less slavic than this result.

[Blondie]

There are no germans in East Prussia which is russian territory today with 100% russian population. This genetic result is russian not german.

[Blondie]

Teutone also expressed dislike for East Germans who are much less slavic than this result.

This is bullshit, he didn't say any bad thing about east germans. You know nothing about Teutone...

[Not a Cop]

There are no germans in East Prussia which is russian territory today with 100% russian population. This genetic result is russian not german.

You do understand that there is still a lot of native East-Prussian alive?

[Slavic Italian]

This is bullshit, he didn't say any bad thing about east germans. You know nothing about Teutone...


He's a moron. That says a lot.

[Leto]

You do understand that there is still a lot of native East-Prussian alive?
They must be over 75 by now.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I wonder if east Prussians existed today, how would they be perceived by german nationalists? I remember Teutone and Lawspeaker didn't like Poles and East Slavs. Teutone also expressed dislike for East Germans who are much less slavic than this result.

Teutone was quater East Prussian mate.

[Slavic Italian]

You do understand that there is still a lot of native East-Prussian alive?

I certainly match with these people.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

There are no germans in East Prussia which is russian territory today with 100% russian population. This genetic result is russian not german.

no

[Not a Cop]

They must be over 75 by now.

Yeah, but that's not that much by nowdays standarts, plus there are a lot of their children of east-prussian heritage.

[Slavic Italian]

Teutone was quater East Prussian mate.

That's interesting. Did not know that.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I certainly match with these people.

Nah, you probably don't. East Prussian Germans have lot of Baltic blood and no Slavic. West Prussia in Poland is Slav mixed.

[Slavic Italian]

Yeah, but that's not that much by nowdays standarts, plus there are a lot of their children of east-prussian heritage.

And I am far from 75.

[Slavic Italian]

Nah, you probably don't. East Prussian Germans have lot of Baltic blood and no Slavic. West Prussia in Poland is Slav mixed.

East Prussians have some Slav. I am matching with some of the kits.

[Blondie]

They must be over 75 by now.

75, that's a big number :thumb001: Can they speak german?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

East Prussians have some Slav. I am matching with some of the kits.

No they don't. There are no pure East Prussian alive most probably, all these kits are mixed. OP has some German ancestry from Berlin, that is where Slav comes from.

Besides East Prussians have some Germanic blood also. But their east euro is Lithuanian not Polish or Russian lmao.

[Slavic Italian]

75, that's a big number :thumb001: Can they speak german?

Guten Morgen.

[Slavic Italian]

No they don't. There are no pure East Prussian alive moat probably, all thse kits are mixed. OP has some German ancestry from Berlin, that is where Slav comes from.

Besides East Prussians have some Germanic blood also. But their east euro is Lithuanian not Polish or Russian lmao.

Litvinski will straighten you out. East Prussia was in Northern Poland you do realize that? You say a lot of things on this forum that are incorrect.

[Blondie]

I've seen some russian guy from Königsberg who identifies themselves ancient non germanized native baltid prussians or german prussians but they can't speak german neither any baltic language.

[Slavic Italian]

I've seen some russian guy from Königsberg who identifies themselves ancient non germanized native baltid prussians or german prussians but they can't speak german neither any baltic language.

Maybe an ancestor of them...................

[Scandal]

This is bullshit, he didn't say any bad thing about east germans. You know nothing about Teutone...

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?247605-East-Germans-Germanic-Gopniks

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Litvinski will straighten you out. East Prussia was in Northern Poland you do realize that? You say a lot of things on this forum that are incorrect.

No, and original Prussians were Baltic speakers not Slavic. I already said largest part of Prussia (Poland and Germany) is Slavic admixed.

West Prussia =/= East Prussia

Northeast Polaks from Mazowia are heavily Baltic mixed, that region (bordering East Prussia) was Baltic before Slavization.

Balts occupied much larger area than modern Latvia and Lithuania do, including parts of Poland, Belarus and Russia. Slavs expanded and their territory shrinked but toponyms and genetics remained.

Teutone got 0 Slav on my Heritage and 1/8 Baltic. His old man could prolly be modeled like German + Lithuanian which would come out superficially Polish without having any Slav blood.

[Slavic Italian]

No, and Prussians were Baltic speakers not Slavic.
I already said largest part of Prussia (Poland and Germany) is Slavic admixed.

West Prussia =/= East Prussia

Northeast Polaks from Mazowia are heavily Baltic mixed, that region (bordering East Prussia) was Baltic before Slavization.

Balts occupied much larger area than modern Latvia and Lithuania do, including parts of Poland, Belarus and Russia. Slavs expanded and their territory shrinked but toponyms and genetics remained.

Teutone got 0 Slav on my Heritage and 1/8 Baltic.
His old man could prolly be modeled like German + Lithuanian which would come out superficially Polish without having any Slav blood.

Teutone is one example. There are other samples out there. Some have this. Some have that and so forth. Most have some German and a lot of Baltic. Many have a Slavic contribution as well. I have a lot of Baltic myself.

[Blondie]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?247605-East-Germans-Germanic-Gopniks

Yes and Teutone was muslim, ultra-liberal, viking pagan, cuckold etc he was trolling many times. The problem is you don't understand his posts and his sarcasm, you don't know what is his real ideology.

[Leto]

Teutone was a national socialist too :D

[Slavic Italian]

Here is my K13. I am quite mixed.

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 34.59
2 Baltic 25.13
3 West_Med 14.57
4 East_Med 12.19
5 West_Asian 7.57
6 Red_Sea 1.61
7 South_Asian 1.21
8 Amerindian 1.18
9 Northeast_African 1.14


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Austrian @ 6.942495
2 Hungarian @ 7.624191
3 Serbian @ 9.084677
4 East_German @ 9.764771
5 West_German @ 9.794897
6 South_Dutch @ 11.787029
7 French @ 12.680353
8 Romanian @ 12.745910
9 Croatian @ 13.558361
10 Moldavian @ 13.633217
11 North_German @ 15.711340
12 Bulgarian @ 16.188131
13 Southeast_English @ 17.926079
14 Danish @ 18.422274
15 North_Dutch @ 18.769777
16 Portuguese @ 18.772793
17 South_Polish @ 18.848547
18 Spanish_Galicia @ 19.028904
19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.095654
20 North_Italian @ 19.173985

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% West_German @ 1.866525


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarian +25% North_German +25% Tuscan @ 1.506524


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Estonian_Polish + South_Italian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.346698
2 Ashkenazi + Irish + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.356535
3 East_Sicilian + Polish + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.396887
4 Danish + East_Sicilian + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.397044
5 North_German + Ukrainian + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.403517
6 Southeast_English + Ukrainian_Belgorod + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.415856
7 Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.416141
8 Belorussian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.420268
9 Danish + Polish + South_Italian + West_German @ 1.445588
10 Croatian + Danish + Greek_Thessaly + West_German @ 1.446850
11 East_Sicilian + Russian_Smolensk + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.459479
12 East_Sicilian + North_Dutch + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.470756
13 Southeast_English + Southwest_Russian + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.491367
14 East_Sicilian + South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southwest_Russian @ 1.493043
15 Estonian_Polish + Orcadian + South_Italian + West_German @ 1.493080
16 Hungarian + Hungarian + North_German + Tuscan @ 1.506524
17 East_Sicilian + Southeast_English + Southwest_Russian + West_German @ 1.509553
18 Ashkenazi + Irish + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_German @ 1.518932
19 East_German + Hungarian + North_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.524266
20 East_Sicilian + Estonian_Polish + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.524837

[Blondie]

Teutone was a national socialist too :D

Yes and he was communist too.... Teutone maked many sarcastic posts to make joke about haters and groups which he don't like.

[Slavic Italian]

Yes and he was communist too.... Teutone maked many sarcastic posts to make joke about haters and groups which he don't like.

Well Teutone welcome back. I see you got a sex change.

[Scandal]

Teutone was quater East Prussian mate.

and? He didn't like Eastern Europeans. Have you seen his posts? I have interacted with western nationalists enough to conclude they're not fan of Eastern Euros.

[Blondie]

Well Teutone welcome back. I see you got a sex change.

I'm not Teutone :rotfl::rotfl:

[oszkar07]

Here is my K13. I am quite mixed.

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 34.59
2 Baltic 25.13
3 West_Med 14.57
4 East_Med 12.19
5 West_Asian 7.57
6 Red_Sea 1.61
7 South_Asian 1.21
8 Amerindian 1.18
9 Northeast_African 1.14


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Austrian @ 6.942495
2 Hungarian @ 7.624191
3 Serbian @ 9.084677
4 East_German @ 9.764771
5 West_German @ 9.794897
6 South_Dutch @ 11.787029
7 French @ 12.680353
8 Romanian @ 12.745910
9 Croatian @ 13.558361
10 Moldavian @ 13.633217
11 North_German @ 15.711340
12 Bulgarian @ 16.188131
13 Southeast_English @ 17.926079
14 Danish @ 18.422274
15 North_Dutch @ 18.769777
16 Portuguese @ 18.772793
17 South_Polish @ 18.848547
18 Spanish_Galicia @ 19.028904
19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.095654
20 North_Italian @ 19.173985

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% West_German @ 1.866525


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarian +25% North_German +25% Tuscan @ 1.506524


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Estonian_Polish + South_Italian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.346698
2 Ashkenazi + Irish + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.356535
3 East_Sicilian + Polish + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.396887
4 Danish + East_Sicilian + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.397044
5 North_German + Ukrainian + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.403517
6 Southeast_English + Ukrainian_Belgorod + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.415856
7 Russian_Smolensk + South_Italian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.416141
8 Belorussian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.420268
9 Danish + Polish + South_Italian + West_German @ 1.445588
10 Croatian + Danish + Greek_Thessaly + West_German @ 1.446850
11 East_Sicilian + Russian_Smolensk + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.459479
12 East_Sicilian + North_Dutch + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.470756
13 Southeast_English + Southwest_Russian + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.491367
14 East_Sicilian + South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southwest_Russian @ 1.493043
15 Estonian_Polish + Orcadian + South_Italian + West_German @ 1.493080
16 Hungarian + Hungarian + North_German + Tuscan @ 1.506524
17 East_Sicilian + Southeast_English + Southwest_Russian + West_German @ 1.509553
18 Ashkenazi + Irish + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_German @ 1.518932
19 East_German + Hungarian + North_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.524266
20 East_Sicilian + Estonian_Polish + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.524837

Why do you describe yourself as mostly Italian.
You dont cluster too strongly with Italian's in your Eurogenes oracle except for a bit in the 4 way mix.
What is your known ancestry.

[Blondie]

and? He didn't like Eastern Europeans. Have you seen his posts? I have interacted with western nationalists enough to conclude they're not fan of Eastern Euros.

Teutone belive in pangermanism and catholic christianity, so the unification of Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Netherland and every european german. Yes he had problem with eastern europeans but he didn't hate east germans or the german communities in East Europe.

[Slavic Italian]

Why do you describe yourself as mostly Italian.
You dont cluster too strongly with Italian's in your Eurogenes oracle except for a bit in the 4 way mix.
What is your known ancestry.

I don't feel I am mostly Italian. Looking at these results what do you consider me?

[Scandal]

Teutone belive in pangermanism and catholic christianity, so the unification of Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Netherland and every european german. Yes he had problem with eastern europeans but he didn't hate east germans or the german communities in East Europe.

Ok. I believe you.

[oszkar07]

I don't feel I am mostly Italian. Looking at these results what do you consider me?

I would guess you are mixed ...possibly 3 ways.

You seem to have some Central European and Slavic, some NW European/Germanic and possibly Balkan /Southern Euro-Italian.
I imagine you possibly have 3 Grandparents from different regions of Europe.

[Slavic Italian]

I would guess you are mixed ...possibly 3 ways.

You seem to have some Central European and Slavic, some NW European/Germanic and possibly Balkan /Southern Euro-Italian.
I imagine you possibly have 3 Grandparents from different regions of Europe.

Nothing is known past my grandparents. I knew two of them well and the other set not so well. They never spoke of these things which is why I became interested in this stuff. Thanks for your insight you are usually pretty good.

[Slavic Italian]

Looking at this thread what "Hitler" supposedly said has really messed up peoples' minds. There has always been mixing. There were Jews and Slavs in the SS. For some reason young Euros believe in boundaries that never existed...........ever.

[Matxe92]

Think people gotta realise that germans from the former eastern parts of the country was mixed in various degrees. This kit also has 1 confirmed grandparent who appereantly identified as lithuanian, but otherwise it should be prussian german.

[oszkar07]

Nothing is known past my grandparents. I knew two of them well and the other set not so well. They never spoke of these things which is why I became interested in this stuff. Thanks for your insight you are usually pretty good.

in k13 your North Atlantic at 34 is not too high , so doesnt seem that your too much North West Euro ...eg not to much British or West French ... probably more central German in terms of West Euro, but also possibly your admixed central and southern European/Balkan ancestry pulls down your North Atlantic. You seem to have an interesting admixture ...have you done 23andme ...if so what regions did they give you.

[Slavic Italian]

in k13 your North Atlantic at 34 is not too high , so doesnt seem that your too much North West Euro ...eg not to much British or West French ... probably more central German in terms of West Euro, but also possibly your admixed central and southern European/Balkan ancestry pulls down your North Atlantic. You seem to have an interesting admixture ...have you done 23andme ...if so what regions did they give you.

My Ancestry DNA.


England, Wales & Northwestern Europe24%


Italy 21%

Eastern Europe & Russia 15%

Germanic Europe 14%

France 11%

Ireland & Scotland 6%

Sweden 4%

Baltic States 2%

Greece & the Balkans 1%

Turkey & the Caucasus 1%

Finland 1%

[Blondie]

Think people gotta realise that germans from the former eastern parts of the country was mixed in various degrees. This kit also has 1 confirmed grandparent who appereantly identified as lithuanian, but otherwise it should be prussian german.

How do you know that this result came from a german person?

[Matxe92]

How do you know that this result came from a german person?

I know the kit owner.

[Blondie]

I know the kit owner.

Me too and he's not german, that's why i asking.

[Matxe92]

Me too and he's not german, that's why i asking.

Blondie, just no. Are you mentally ok?

[Slavic Italian]

Blondie, just no. Are you mentally ok?

It's Teutone and you are destroying his ridiculous beliefs.

[Blondie]

Blondie, just no. Are you mentally ok?

This guy and his result is a purest russian what i've ever seen, look his 2-3% amerindian admixture which obviously came from siberians, you picked this russian guy and posted it as "german" to prove east germans are slavs, that's happened.

[Blondie]

It's Teutone and you are destroying his ridiculous beliefs.

I'm not Teutone you mentally retarded.

[Matxe92]

This guy and his result is a purest russian what i've ever seen, look his 2-3% amerindian admixture which obviously came from siberians, you picked this russian guy and posted it as "german" to prove east germans are slavs, that's happened.

Your not mentally quite right. I think you just confirmed that.

[Slavic Italian]

Your not mentally quite right. I think you just confirmed that.

Having a sex change will do that to a man.

[Blondie]

Having a sex change will do that to a man.

What sex change you idiot? I'm not Teutone, what an autist :D

[nittionia]

Cool I wonder if my dad matches with him (:

[Matxe92]

Cool I wonder if my dad matches with him (:

He doesn't.

[Lemgrant]

pca, from one point of view: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?177271-Tutorial-for-autosomal-calculators&p=6169153&viewfull=1#post6169153
https://i.imgur.com/TtxG6rj.png

[nittionia]

He doesn't.

how do you know!