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Bellbeaking
08-12-2019, 11:08 PM
Weird channel from SE to NW. So low in Scandinavia and Spain. High In Ireland. Interesting.

https://i.imgur.com/A0ZRvu5.png Eupedia (they labelled this west asian, but it peaks in Caucasus and looks like the Caucasus maps below)

http://k36.physical-anthropology.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/north-caucasian-eurogenes-k36.jpg Notice Ireland and Wales. This is from LukasZM's components map

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/caucase2.png From here: https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K36expe3.htm Pakistan is really high, as Dorian pointed out, not sure why.

If anyone knows what causes this weird pattern please chime in.

Tenma de Pegasus
08-12-2019, 11:12 PM
Interesting how Southeast Europe is the first by far, but after it, in second its Northwest Europe!!! Its a diagonal influence lol

In the last we have Southwest and Northeast Europe.

Bellbeaking
08-12-2019, 11:16 PM
Interesting how Southeast Europe is the first by far, but after it, in second its Northwest Europe!!! Its a diagonal influence lol

In the last we have Southwest and Northeast Europe.

This component has the weirdest distribution of any I have seen in Europe.

Tenma de Pegasus
08-12-2019, 11:19 PM
This component has the weirdest distribution of any I have seen in Europe.

Also Egypt and Libia have a lot of it. Its seems caucasians also migrated there too, but not to Russia? Wtf

Ayetooey
08-12-2019, 11:19 PM
Guessing NW Europe have it through a higher affinity to steppe people, where as balkans has it through more recent ancestry? SW Europe diluted their steppe acquired admix through the fucking of neolithic natives, and NE Euros have a lot more paleolithic blood than the rest of Europe.

loschbour_man
08-13-2019, 06:59 AM
it's indo-european. yamnaya were 50% caucasian, that's why it's higher in celto-germanic areas and lower in Sardinia, Basques, Spain.
in Anatolia, Greece, Balkans, Italy , it's not recent, it came with haplogroup J2a carriers, Hittites, Minoans, Mycenaeans, maybe Etruscans, they were obviously even more Cuacasian than Yamnaya

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J2_Y-DNA.shtml

michal3141
08-13-2019, 11:29 AM
https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/caucase2.png From here: https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K36expe3.htm Pakistan is really high, as Dorian pointed out, not sure why.

If anyone knows what causes this weird pattern please chime in.

Do you know if there are more maps of this type? For remaining K36 components. It's very informative with all these numbers. K36 is a fantastic calculator.

Bellbeaking
08-13-2019, 12:04 PM
it's indo-european. yamnaya were 50% caucasian, that's why it's higher in celto-germanic areas and lower in Sardinia, Basques, Spain.
in Anatolia, Greece, Balkans, Italy , it's not recent, it came with haplogroup J2a carriers, Hittites, Minoans, Mycenaeans, maybe Etruscans, they were obviously even more Cuacasian than Yamnaya

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J2_Y-DNA.shtml

Yes it probably came to SE Europe in the chacolithic from anatolia. It it still suprisingly low in Scandinavia, but they have a lot of mesolithic stuff as Aye said to dilute it.



Do you know if there are more maps of this type? For remaining K36 components. It's very informative with all these numbers. K36 is a fantastic calculator.

Click the link https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K36expe3.htm and scroll down to the middle of the page between the two big maps a few are there.

Lucas
08-13-2019, 12:09 PM
Do you know if there are more maps of this type? For remaining K36 components. It's very informative with all these numbers. K36 is a fantastic calculator.
It isn't map of North Caucasian admixture but map of component Caucasus & Zagros from Tolan calculator based on K36 but as all his tools somewhat different:)

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K36expe3.htm

There are few more maps on this site.

michal3141
08-13-2019, 01:31 PM
It isn't map of North Caucasian admixture but map of component Caucasus & Zagros from Tolan calculator based on K36 but as all his tools somewhat different:)

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K36expe3.htm

There are few more maps on this site.

Łukasz, It's been ages (probably over 1 year) since I've ordered the report from you. Have there been any upgrades regarding Polish or Balto-Slavic populations recently? I have to admit that your reports are the most detailed and best out there ;)

Lucas
08-13-2019, 01:48 PM
Łukasz, It's been ages (probably over 1 year) since I've ordered the report from you. Have there been any upgrades regarding Polish or Balto-Slavic populations recently? I have to admit that your reports are the most detailed and best out there ;)

Yes, I upgraded Ukraine. Regions number is reduced but more consistent on PCA or CA plot. Next thing is to update Finnic nations and most of Russian references (there is some very recent paper with them).
I can do it for your new report.

michal3141
08-13-2019, 02:48 PM
Yes, I upgraded Ukraine. Regions number is reduced but more consistent on PCA or CA plot. Next thing is to update Finnic nations and most of Russian references (there is some very recent paper with them).
I can do it for your new report.

Great! I will consider buying a new report then (or is there a discount for an upgrade ? :D )

loschbour_man
08-13-2019, 02:49 PM
Yes it probably came to SE Europe in the chacolithic from anatolia. It it still suprisingly low in Scandinavia, but they have a lot of mesolithic stuff as Aye said to dilute it.




Click the link https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/K36expe3.htm and scroll down to the middle of the page between the two big maps a few are there.

i just wonder how it's so low, ~1% in Lithuania and Latvia. bronze and iron age samples from there don't seem to have it either.

Leto
08-13-2019, 02:54 PM
Do they mean Caucasoid?


Next thing is to update Finnic nations and most of Russian references (there is some very recent paper with them).
A new study on Russia? Can you give me a link?

loschbour_man
08-13-2019, 04:39 PM
i just wonder how it's so low, ~1% in Lithuania and Latvia. bronze and iron age samples from there don't seem to have it either.

german corded ware has 12% north caucasian on eurogenes k36 and polish and estonian corded ware have 0. interesting