Turkish Gedmatch results with 8% SSA. Is it just a Gedmatch error? :/

[Sora]

Kit number: Z421520

Dodecad k12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.69
2 Atlantic_Med 13.42
3 North_European 12.00
4 Gedrosia 10.82
5 Southwest_Asian 9.45
6 East_Asian 8.48
7 Siberian 5.72
8 East_African 4.65
9 Sub_Saharan 4.12
10 South_Asian 3.92


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 20.777987
2 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 21.420818
3 Turkish_Dodecad @ 22.046694
4 Turks_Behar @ 22.474571
5 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 22.589531
6 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 23.234543
7 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 23.586063
8 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 24.089191
9 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 24.149836
10 Greek_Dodecad @ 24.617689
11 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 24.695820
12 Lebanese_Behar @ 25.113621
13 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 26.067572
14 Syrians_Behar @ 26.310793
15 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 26.674192
16 Iranian_Dodecad @ 27.013035
17 Uzbeks_Behar @ 27.044065
18 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 27.152248
19 Kurd_Dodecad @ 27.228001
20 Jordanians_Behar @ 27.259737

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Sephardic_Jews_Behar +50% Uzbeks_Behar @ 8.012313


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Nogais_Yunusbayev +25% Portuguese_Dodecad +25% Yemenese_Behar @ 7.406820

Harappaworld

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 27.25
2 Mediterranean 13.55
3 NE-Euro 12.93
4 Baloch 11.57
5 SW-Asian 8.98
6 NE-Asian 6.74
7 Siberian 5.64
8 E-African 3.50
9 Pygmy 2.85
10 S-Indian 2.55
11 American 1.39
12 Papuan 1.38


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 turk-aydin_hodoglugil @ 12.329358
2 ashkenazy-jew_behar @ 17.796728
3 ashkenazi_harappa @ 18.470808
4 turkmen_yunusbayev @ 18.502148
5 nogai_yunusbayev @ 18.963034
6 turk-istanbul_hodoglugil @ 19.830574
7 turk-kayseri_hodoglugil @ 20.612953
8 turkish_harappa @ 20.711786
9 sephardic-jew_behar @ 21.168489
10 romanian-b_behar @ 21.784945
11 turk_behar @ 21.795630
12 morocco-jew_behar @ 22.106579
13 azeri_harappa @ 23.193895
14 iraqi-arab_harappa @ 23.323565
15 north-ossetian_harappa @ 23.482592
16 lebanese_behar @ 24.306597
17 kurd_harappa @ 24.564238
18 stalskoe_xing @ 24.619265
19 tuscan_1000genomes @ 24.767469
20 iranian_harappa @ 24.891117

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% sephardic-jew_behar +50% uzbek_behar @ 6.798913


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% nogai_yunusbayev +25% north-ossetian_harappa +25% saharawi_henn2012 @ 5.246054

Eurogenes k13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 18.92
2 West_Asian 18.26
3 Siberian 9.50
4 West_Med 9.20
5 East_Asian 8.83
6 North_Atlantic 7.59
7 South_Asian 7.21
8 Baltic 6.72
9 Red_Sea 4.48
10 Northeast_African 4.33
11 Oceanian 2.26
12 Amerindian 1.80


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkmen @ 17.554729
2 Turkish @ 19.528738
3 Nogay @ 19.692741
4 Afghan_Turkmen @ 21.987328
5 Azeri @ 22.062847
6 Uzbeki @ 23.069399
7 Aghan_Hazara @ 23.836103
8 Afghan_Tadjik @ 23.875416
9 East_Sicilian @ 24.432249
10 Central_Greek @ 24.468231
11 Italian_Abruzzo @ 25.655661
12 Greek_Thessaly @ 25.687189
13 Ashkenazi @ 25.703007
14 South_Italian @ 25.945971
15 Tadjik @ 26.011999
16 Uygur @ 26.314766
17 Syrian @ 26.590130
18 Kumyk @ 26.596506
19 West_Sicilian @ 27.066952
20 Lebanese_Muslim @ 27.451435

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Aghan_Hazara +50% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.657837


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Aghan_Hazara +25% Central_Greek +25% Egyptian @ 3.827733

[Pansarkamrat]

I dont know but lonewolf got it and he is a Turkish cypriot.

[Rgvgjhvv]

What's the point in highlighting the mongoloid percentage in this instance?

[Scandal]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Turks

[Sora]

What's the point in highlighting the mongoloid percentage in this instance?

I do this at all Turkish and Turkic results. Also the interesting thing over here is s/he's 14% Mongoloid and 8% SSA

[Kaspias]

SNP coverage is fine, that's not an error. Clearly have another admixture, not only Turkish

West_Asian 18.26 Pct
East_Med 18.92 Pct

[Adamastor]

There are SSA admixed Turks because there was black slavery in Turkey. But generally average Turkish or Anatolian person score less SSA than Southern Europeans even.

[Kaspias]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Turks

Afro-Turks are Turkish speaker Africans and have nothing to do with the Turkish genetic pool.

[Nomad]

What is his haplogroup?

[Dorian]

:/ https://i.pinimg.com/474x/ab/22/ac/ab22acb9e128b74a10ec37090f65330f--beautiful-children-beautiful-men.jpg

[Leto]

He may have North African ancestry. After all, there must be some Muslims from other countries in Turkey - from Indonesia all the way to Morocco.

Population
Amerindian 0.96 Pct
East_Asian 6.38 Pct
African 7.61 Pct
Atlantic_Baltic 21.88 Pct
Australasian 1.28 Pct
Siberian 6.95 Pct
Caucasus_Gedrosia 26.42 Pct
Southern 24.79 Pct
South_Asian 3.74 Pct

[Sora]

SNP coverage is fine, that's not an error. Clearly have another admixture, not only Turkish

West_Asian 18.26 Pct
East_Med 18.92 Pct

Makes sense. Maybe one of his/her grandparents were most probably an Arab or Afro-Turk(as Universe and Adamastor said)

Also Afro-Turks are most probably mixed with Turks. Becuase they have something Turkish in their faces

https://media-cdn.t24.com.tr/media/stories/2016/07/raw_afro-turkler-egzotik-meyve-muamelesi-goruyoruz-osmanlida-kolelik-oldugu-kabul-edilsin-yuzlesin_476282571.jpg

https://imgrosetta.mynet.com.tr/file/1180218/728xauto.jpg

https://taygaiyigida.com/sites/default/files/2011danabayrami_01_0.jpg

https://image.yenisafak.com/resim/imagecrop/2017/10/26/03/03/resized_106c4-6e1ccc39afrika.jpg

[Sora]

What is his haplogroup?

I don't know :confused:

[Scandal]

Afro-Turks are Turkish speaker Africans and have nothing to do with the Turkish genetic pool.


Some of the descendants of the African settlers remain, mixed with the rest of the population in these areas, and many migrated to larger cities.[2] These factors make it difficult to guess the number of Afro-Turks.[7]

[Pansarkamrat]

:/ https://i.pinimg.com/474x/ab/22/ac/ab22acb9e128b74a10ec37090f65330f--beautiful-children-beautiful-men.jpg

Turanid

[Kaspias]

There is no way a Black and a Turk mix, unlike the situation in Europe, just sayin'

[Thracian]

Greek convert, according to Bosniensis. :D

[Sora]

There is no way a Black and a Turk mix, unlike the situation in Europe, just sayin'

Idk if it's happened or not at the past but it's frequently happening today. Ahtough it's not as much as Asian & Turk mixes

[itilvolga]

There is no way a Black and a Turk mix, unlike the situation in Europe, just sayin'

Even if it’s quite rare, some Turkish villagers in Aegean Region mix with their Afro-Turk neighbors. S/he might have an Afro-Turk great grandparent in this case, in my opinion.

[Sora]

Even if it’s quite rare, some Turkish villagers in Aegean Region mix with their Afro-Turk neighbors. S/he might have an Afro-Turk great grandparent in this case, in my opinion.

I thought so too :)

Also many today's Afro-Turks have Turkish admixture

[Dorian]

There is no way a Black and a Turk mix, unlike the situation in Europe, just sayin'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WCOTDpIj0c

[Pansarkamrat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WCOTDpIj0c

We wuz greeks n shiet

[Dorian]

We wuz greeks n shiet

Not only that ,they are muslims in an area with turkish minority,speak,sing turkish etc They are probably a mix of african,turkish,greek&roma

Turanid detected
https://i.postimg.cc/pd7cQbsf/Screenshot-4.jpg

[Leto]

There is no way a Black and a Turk mix, unlike the situation in Europe, just sayin'
Nowadays black foreigners (workers, students, refugees) exist from Japan all the way to Ireland. But that's irrelevant to the discussion. Obviously that sample is not a recent mulatto.

[Pansarkamrat]

Not only that ,they are muslims in an area with turkish minority,speak,sing turkish etc They are probably a mix of african,turkish,greek&roma

Turanid detected
https://i.postimg.cc/pd7cQbsf/Screenshot-4.jpg

Maybe they come from turks setteling in greece during ottoman empire. These are ancient turks. We wuz turks and shiet.

[Cumansky]

You niggas don't know how to read? What the oracle said

[archangel]

probably has Greek ancestors, as you know Greeks are originally Africans

[Cumansky]

His oracle reads everytime "Sephardic Jew"

[Voskos]

Turkey is just over the levant. Stop blaming greeks for your problems.

[Cumansky]

Not only that ,they are muslims in an area with turkish minority,speak,sing turkish etc They are probably a mix of african,turkish,greek&roma

Turanid detected
https://i.postimg.cc/pd7cQbsf/Screenshot-4.jpg

He came from Montego Bay Jamaica with his 8%

[Lucas]

There is no way a Black and a Turk mix, unlike the situation in Europe, just sayin'

Is it some sort of prejudice in Turkey against them?

[Pater Patota]

You've made mistake, this is the correction:

We wuz turan and shiet!

[Pater Patota]

Is it some sort of prejudice in Turkey against them?

Yes, especially against blacks and Arabs but if a black person is a football or basketball player, there is no problem.

[dududud]

Is it some sort of prejudice in Turkey against them?

Very good thing IMO.

[Snapdragon]

SNP coverage is fine, that's not an error.

How many SNPs is enough?

[Kaspias]

How many SNPs is enough?

More than 140k preferably

[Bosniensis]

What's the point in highlighting the mongoloid percentage in this instance?

Turan power must be highlighted ALWAYS.

[Kaspias]

Turan power must be highlighted ALWAYS.

Well said.

[Reis-i Cumhur]

Arab-turco mix

[Kyp]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Turkey

[Voskos]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1382413857/bashibozuk_400x400.jpg

[reboun]

That might be from Turks of African roots.