*Help* Is He Have Tatar and Romani Ancestry?

[karakartal]

Hello there.

His similarity map;
90423

Also his MyHeritage results;
Europe 65.8:
-Balkan 49,5
-East Europe 3,8
-South Europe 9,8
-Scandinavia 1,6
-Finnish 1,1
&
-West Asia:30,6
-Middle East:3,6

Here is my father's gedmatch results.

Eurogenes K13
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.55
2 Baltic 21.55
3 West_Med 16.35
4 West_Asian 15.58
5 North_Atlantic 13.25
6 South_Asian 3.11
7 Siberian 2.17
8 Red_Sea 1.84
9 East_Asian 1.56
10 Amerindian 1.01

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 9.36
2 Bulgarian 9.58
3 Romanian 12.05
4 Central_Greek 13.25
5 East_Sicilian 14.66
6 Italian_Abruzzo 15.39
7 Ashkenazi 15.54
8 Serbian 16
9 West_Sicilian 17.07
10 South_Italian 17.5
11 Tuscan 18.71
12 Moldavian 19.1
13 North_Italian 21.92
14 Turkish 22.06
15 Algerian_Jewish 22.25
16 Sephardic_Jewish 22.59
17 Croatian 22.65
18 Italian_Jewish 22.76
19 Hungarian 23.54
20 Cyprian 24.86



Eurogenes K15
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.92
2 Baltic 15.74
3 North_Sea 14.85
4 West_Asian 14.01
5 West_Med 13.03
6 Eastern_Euro 7.82
7 Atlantic 3.86
8 South_Asian 3.08
9 Siberian 1.79
10 Red_Sea 1.76
11 Southeast_Asian 1.38
12 Amerindian 0.76

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 9.73
2 Bulgarian 12.18
3 Greek 12.97
4 Romanian 13.06
5 Ashkenazi 13.51
6 Central_Greek 14.41
7 East_Sicilian 15.6
8 Serbian 16.26
9 Italian_Abruzzo 16.45
10 South_Italian 17.59
11 Moldavian 17.87
12 Tuscan 18.63
13 West_Sicilian 18.68
14 Italian_Jewish 20.96
15 Hungarian 21.2
16 Croatian 21.27
17 Sephardic_Jewish 22.06
18 Turkish 22.09
19 North_Italian 22.21
20 Algerian_Jewish

MDLP K23b
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.87
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 22.26
3 European_Early_Farmers 13.15
4 Near_East 7.26
5 South_Central_Asian 6.03
6 South_Indian 3.22
7 North_African 2.44
8 Ancestral_Altaic 2.43
9 Amerindian 2.01
10 Melano_Polynesian 1.04
11 Austronesian 1
12 East_African 0.94
13 Tungus-Altaic 0.77
14 East_Siberian 0.57

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 6.34
2 Romanian ( ) 7.05
3 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 7.68
4 Gagauz ( ) 8.18
5 Turk_Aydin ( ) 8.27
6 Macedonian ( ) 8.38
7 Bulgarian ( ) 8.67
8 Croat_BH ( ) 9.34
9 Bosnian ( ) 9.67
10 Montenegrian ( ) 10.01
11 Serb_BH ( ) 10.04
12 Croat ( ) 10.29
13 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 11.3
14 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 11.34
15 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 11.54
16 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 11.64
17 Greek_Macedonia ( ) 11.75
18 Romanian_Jew ( ) 12
19 Serb_Serbia ( ) 12.18
20 Cretan ( ) 12.44

Dodecad K12b
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.56
2 North_European 27.24
3 Atlantic_Med 21.58
4 Southwest_Asian 8.02
5 Gedrosia 7.72
6 Siberian 2.23
7 Northwest_African 1.38
8 Southeast_Asian 1.34
9 South_Asian 1.29
10 East_Asian 0.63



# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.95
2 Romanians (Behar) 10.16
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.34
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 12.72
5 Greek (Dodecad) 12.94
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 16.33
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 17.69
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.76
9 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.06
10 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 18.26
11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.49
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.66
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.72
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.59
15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.64
16 Hungarians (Behar) 23.72
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.79
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.27
19 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 25.42
20 Turks (Behar) 26.49

Dodecad K7b
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 44.21
2 West_Asian 25.27
3 Southern 24.56
4 Siberian 2.74
5 East_Asian 1.69
6 South_Asian 1.53

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.15
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.25
3 Tuscan (HGDP) 9.72
4 Greek (Dodecad) 10.12
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.22
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 10.9
7 Romanians (Behar) 10.97
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 11
9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.58
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.42
11 North_Italian (HGDP) 15.92
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.39
13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.09
14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.35
15 Baleares (1000Genomes) 21.92
16 Murcia (1000Genomes) 22.63
17 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 22.83
18 Canarias (1000Genomes) 22.96
19 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 22.97
20 Portuguese (Dodecad) 23.17

puntDNAL K12 Modern
# Population Percent
1 Anatolian_NF 33.02
2 Caucasus_HG 28.32
3 European_HG 23.32
4 Near_East 7.6
5 Amerindian 2.99
6 Beringian 1.57
7 Sub-Saharan 1.14
8 East_Asian 0.91
9 Siberian 0.83
10 South_Asian 0.3

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 8.19
2 Greek 8.58
3 Albanian 8.83
4 Tuscan 11.14
5 Ashkenazi_Jew 11.81
6 Turkish_Aydin 12.2
7 Sicilian_West 13.39
8 Sicilian_East 13.44
9 Croatian 14.32
10 Romanian 15.45
11 Italian_Bergamo 17.85
12 Turkish 17.97
13 Dutch_South 18.69
14 Belgian 18.93
15 Hungarian 19.57
16 Nogai 19.69
17 French 19.84
18 German_South 20.21
19 Utahn_European 20.58
20 Moroccan_Jew 20.64

*In G25; my father's best fit is Macedonian+Tatar_Siberia+Greek_Trabzon+Romani

Also many pca map, he more eastern than me.

[TheMaestro]

Ask him

[Bakha]

Might be Balkan Turk or Crimean Tatar like my father

[karakartal]

Might be Balkan Turk or Crimean Tatar like my father

He is Balkan Turk but their G25 and gedmatch results different other ones because his south asian high than othrr Balkan Turks

[Bakha]

He is Balkan Turk but their G25 and gedmatch results different other ones because his south asian high than othrr Balkan Turks

Do you have his Dodecadk12

[karakartal]

Do you have his Dodecadk12

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.56
2 North_European 27.24
3 Atlantic_Med 21.58
4 Southwest_Asian 8.02
5 Gedrosia 7.72
6 Siberian 2.23
7 Northwest_African 1.38
8 Southeast_Asian 1.34
9 South_Asian 1.29

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 9.647915
2 Romanians_Behar @ 10.961149
3 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 11.202838
4 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 13.565653
5 Greek_Dodecad @ 14.165511
6 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 17.585705
7 Tuscan_HGDP @ 18.985662
8 TSI30_Metspalu @ 19.361364
9 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 19.463619
10 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 19.959984
11 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 20.117027
12 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 20.295416
13 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 21.165401
14 North_Italian_HGDP @ 24.250557
15 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 25.746469
16 Hungarians_Behar @ 25.987488
17 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 26.393332
18 Turkish_Dodecad @ 27.335686
19 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 27.405882
20 Turks_Behar @ 29.118494

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarians_Behar +50% Turkish_Dodecad @ 4.580898


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarians_Behar +25% Sephardic_Jews_Behar +25% Turks_Behar @ 2.426815

Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Iranian_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP + Russian_B_Behar @ 2.003327
2 Armenian_Dodecad + FIN30_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.026066
3 C_Italian_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + Russian_HGDP + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.076136
4 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Iranian_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad + Russian_B_Behar @ 2.078427
5 Armenian_Dodecad + Finnish_Dodecad + Galicia_1000Genomes + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.084410
6 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Iranian_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP + Russian_B_Behar @ 2.091105
7 Armenian_Dodecad + Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Finnish_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.142223
8 Cypriots_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Russian_HGDP @ 2.148579
9 Armenian_Dodecad + Finnish_Dodecad + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.165402
10 Cypriots_Behar + French_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turks_Behar @ 2.174391
11 Cypriots_Behar + French_HGDP + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turks_Behar @ 2.186987
12 Greek_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + N_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.214504
13 North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes + Russian_HGDP + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.215423
14 Cypriots_Behar + Galicia_1000Genomes + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Russian_HGDP @ 2.219963
15 Armenian_Dodecad + Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + FIN30_1000Genomes + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.227041
16 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + N_Italian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 2.234773
17 Armenian_Dodecad + Finnish_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.242176
18 Balkars_Yunusbayev + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.247173
19 C_Italian_Dodecad + FIN30_1000Genomes + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 2.253649
20 Armenian_Dodecad + FIN30_1000Genomes + Portuguese_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.254493

[Bakha]

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.56
2 North_European 27.24
3 Atlantic_Med 21.58
4 Southwest_Asian 8.02
5 Gedrosia 7.72
6 Siberian 2.23
7 Northwest_African 1.38
8 Southeast_Asian 1.34
9 South_Asian 1.29

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 9.647915
2 Romanians_Behar @ 10.961149
3 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 11.202838
4 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 13.565653
5 Greek_Dodecad @ 14.165511
6 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 17.585705
7 Tuscan_HGDP @ 18.985662
8 TSI30_Metspalu @ 19.361364
9 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 19.463619
10 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 19.959984
11 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 20.117027
12 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 20.295416
13 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 21.165401
14 North_Italian_HGDP @ 24.250557
15 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 25.746469
16 Hungarians_Behar @ 25.987488
17 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 26.393332
18 Turkish_Dodecad @ 27.335686
19 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 27.405882
20 Turks_Behar @ 29.118494

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarians_Behar +50% Turkish_Dodecad @ 4.580898


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarians_Behar +25% Sephardic_Jews_Behar +25% Turks_Behar @ 2.426815

Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Iranian_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP + Russian_B_Behar @ 2.003327
2 Armenian_Dodecad + FIN30_1000Genomes + Galicia_1000Genomes + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.026066
3 C_Italian_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + Russian_HGDP + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.076136
4 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Iranian_Dodecad + N_Italian_Dodecad + Russian_B_Behar @ 2.078427
5 Armenian_Dodecad + Finnish_Dodecad + Galicia_1000Genomes + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.084410
6 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Iranian_Dodecad + North_Italian_HGDP + Russian_B_Behar @ 2.091105
7 Armenian_Dodecad + Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + Finnish_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.142223
8 Cypriots_Behar + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Russian_HGDP @ 2.148579
9 Armenian_Dodecad + Finnish_Dodecad + Murcia_1000Genomes + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.165402
10 Cypriots_Behar + French_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turks_Behar @ 2.174391
11 Cypriots_Behar + French_HGDP + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Turks_Behar @ 2.186987
12 Greek_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + N_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.214504
13 North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes + Russian_HGDP + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.215423
14 Cypriots_Behar + Galicia_1000Genomes + Kumyks_Yunusbayev + Russian_HGDP @ 2.219963
15 Armenian_Dodecad + Castilla_Y_Leon_1000Genomes + FIN30_1000Genomes + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.227041
16 Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + N_Italian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 2.234773
17 Armenian_Dodecad + Finnish_Dodecad + Portuguese_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.242176
18 Balkars_Yunusbayev + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Pais_Vasco_1000Genomes + Samaritians_Behar @ 2.247173
19 C_Italian_Dodecad + FIN30_1000Genomes + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 2.253649
20 Armenian_Dodecad + FIN30_1000Genomes + Portuguese_Dodecad + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.254493

As you can see, no south asian in oracles. Also south asian component is not that high, gedrosia is normal for someone with western asian ancestry.

[karakartal]

South asian not that high but high than any other Balkan Turks. In Mdlp K23b, my father have 3 south indian percentage. Other Balkan Turks don't have.

[Bakha]

South asian not that high but high than any other Balkan Turks. In Mdlp K23b, my father have 3 south indian percentage. Other Balkan Turks don't have.

Well i agree that his south asian on k12b and south indian on mdlpk23b is high for a balkan turk. Might indicate romani ancestry. But not that high to be concerned of. Keep in mind that even Romanians on mdlpk23b have south indian 6% - might be a lot of mixing of romanians with local gypsies (like hungarians mixed a lot with local jews). Its balkans afterwards.

[karakartal]

Well i agree that his south asian on k12b and south indian on mdlpk23b is high for a balkan turk. Might indicate romani ancestry. But not that high to be concerned of. Keep in mind that even Romanians on mdlpk23b have south indian 6% - might be a lot of mixing of romanians with local gypsies (like hungarians mixed a lot with local jews). Its balkans afterwards.

maybe. i look that my iranian effect in g25, they don't give any iranian ancestry. my father's indian thing just like romani ancestry. also my father have one copy edar gene(east asian gene)

[ph2ter]

maybe. i look that my iranian effect in g25, they don't give any iranian ancestry. my father's indian thing just like romani ancestry. also my father have one copy edar gene(east asian gene)

His mdlp k23b oracle-4?

(It looks that he has about 1/16 Romani-like ancestry - effectively his 1 great-great grandparent.)

[karakartal]

His mdlp k23b oracle-4?

(It looks that he has about 1/16 Romani-like ancestry - effectively his 1 great-great grandparent.)

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.87
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 22.26
3 European_Early_Farmers 13.15
4 Near_East 7.26
5 South_Central_Asian 6.03
6 South_Indian 3.22
7 North_African 2.44
8 Ancestral_Altaic 2.43
9 Amerindian 2.01
10 Melano_Polynesian 1.04

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romanian_ @ 7.624792
2 Gagauz_ @ 8.701653
3 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 8.972284
4 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 9.821819
5 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 10.232184
6 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 10.839145
7 Bulgarian_ @ 11.147513
8 Greek_ @ 11.529915
9 Central_Greek_ @ 11.580221
10 Azov_Greek_ @ 11.742142
11 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 11.808640
12 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 12.178102
13 Macedonian_ @ 12.200769
14 Greek_Northwest_ @ 12.314982
15 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ @ 12.556499
16 Greek_Athens_ @ 13.389503
17 Kosovar_ @ 13.635122
18 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 13.743646
19 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 14.063721
20 Ashkenazi_ @ 14.089099

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot_ +50% Moksha_ @ 4.305395


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Romanian_ +25% Serb_BH_ +25% Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 3.186965

1 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ + Lebanese_Druze_ + Moksha_ + Romanian_ @ 2.495163
2 Cypriot_ + Romanian_ + Russian_Meshtchyora_ + Turk_Istanbul_ @ 2.511043
3 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Finn_West_ + Lebanese_Druze_ + Romanian_ @ 2.517711
4 Cypriot_ + Romanian_ + Russian-Upper-Volga_ + Turk_Istanbul_ @ 2.551998
5 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ + Lebanese_Druze_ + Romanian_ + Russian_Meshtchyora_ @ 2.553385
6 Cypriot_ + Romanian_ + Russian-West_ + Turk_Istanbul_ @ 2.557313
7 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ + Lebanese_Christian_ + Moksha_ + Romanian_ @ 2.571030
8 Cypriot_ + Romanian_ + Russian_North_ + Turk_Istanbul_ @ 2.573678
9 Jew_Tat_ + Romanian_ + Romanian_Jew_ + Russian-Upper-Volga_ @ 2.581620
10 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Finn_West_ + Lebanese_Muslim_ + Romanian_ @ 2.587688
11 Jew_Tat_ + Romanian_ + Romanian_Jew_ + Russian-West_ @ 2.605851
12 Cypriot_ + Mordovian_ + Romanian_ + Turk_Balikesir_ @ 2.608373
13 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ + Lebanese_Muslim_ + Romanian_ + Ukrainian_West_ @ 2.611736
14 Azov_Greek_ + Druze_ + Finn_West_ + Romanian_ @ 2.613443
15 Cypriot_ + Romanian_ + Russian-West_ + Turk_Aydin_ @ 2.631822
16 Jew_Tat_ + Romanian_ + Romanian_Jew_ + Russian_Meshtchyora_ @ 2.646958
17 Cypriot_ + Romanian_ + Russian_Meshtchyora_ + Turk_Aydin_ @ 2.655375
18 Cypriot_ + Romanian_ + Russian-North-West_ + Turk_Istanbul_ @ 2.667486
19 Druze_ + Finn_West_ + Romanian_ + Turk_Istanbul_ @ 2.673154
20 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ + Lebanese_Christian_ + Romanian_ + Russian_Meshtchyora_ @ 2.673683

[ph2ter]

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.87
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 22.26
3 European_Early_Farmers 13.15
4 Near_East 7.26
5 South_Central_Asian 6.03
6 South_Indian 3.22
7 North_African 2.44
8 Ancestral_Altaic 2.43
9 Amerindian 2.01
10 Melano_Polynesian 1.04

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romanian_ @ 7.624792
2 Gagauz_ @ 8.701653
3 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 8.972284
4 Greek_Macedonia_ @ 9.821819
5 Greek_Thessaloniki_ @ 10.232184
6 Greek_Peloponnesos_ @ 10.839145
7 Bulgarian_ @ 11.147513
8 Greek_ @ 11.529915
9 Central_Greek_ @ 11.580221
10 Azov_Greek_ @ 11.742142
11 Greek_Thessaly_ @ 11.808640
12 Albanian_Tirana_ @ 12.178102
13 Macedonian_ @ 12.200769
14 Greek_Northwest_ @ 12.314982
15 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ @ 12.556499
16 Greek_Athens_ @ 13.389503
17 Kosovar_ @ 13.635122
18 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 13.743646
19 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 14.063721
20 Ashkenazi_ @ 14.089099

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot_ +50% Moksha_ @ 4.305395


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Romanian_ +25% Serb_BH_ +25% Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 3.186965

1 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ + Lebanese_Druze_ + Moksha_ + Romanian_ @ 2.495163
2 Cypriot_ + Romanian_ + Russian_Meshtchyora_ + Turk_Istanbul_ @ 2.511043
3 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Finn_West_ + Lebanese_Druze_ + Romanian_ @ 2.517711
4 Cypriot_ + Romanian_ + Russian-Upper-Volga_ + Turk_Istanbul_ @ 2.551998
5 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ + Lebanese_Druze_ + Romanian_ + Russian_Meshtchyora_ @ 2.553385
6 Cypriot_ + Romanian_ + Russian-West_ + Turk_Istanbul_ @ 2.557313
7 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ + Lebanese_Christian_ + Moksha_ + Romanian_ @ 2.571030
8 Cypriot_ + Romanian_ + Russian_North_ + Turk_Istanbul_ @ 2.573678
9 Jew_Tat_ + Romanian_ + Romanian_Jew_ + Russian-Upper-Volga_ @ 2.581620
10 Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ + Finn_West_ + Lebanese_Muslim_ + Romanian_ @ 2.587688
11 Jew_Tat_ + Romanian_ + Romanian_Jew_ + Russian-West_ @ 2.605851
12 Cypriot_ + Mordovian_ + Romanian_ + Turk_Balikesir_ @ 2.608373
13 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ + Lebanese_Muslim_ + Romanian_ + Ukrainian_West_ @ 2.611736
14 Azov_Greek_ + Druze_ + Finn_West_ + Romanian_ @ 2.613443
15 Cypriot_ + Romanian_ + Russian-West_ + Turk_Aydin_ @ 2.631822
16 Jew_Tat_ + Romanian_ + Romanian_Jew_ + Russian_Meshtchyora_ @ 2.646958
17 Cypriot_ + Romanian_ + Russian_Meshtchyora_ + Turk_Aydin_ @ 2.655375
18 Cypriot_ + Romanian_ + Russian-North-West_ + Turk_Istanbul_ @ 2.667486
19 Druze_ + Finn_West_ + Romanian_ + Turk_Istanbul_ @ 2.673154
20 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ + Lebanese_Christian_ + Romanian_ + Russian_Meshtchyora_ @ 2.673683

Romani doesn't appear because 1/16 is too small to appear in oracle-4 pops.

[karakartal]

Romani doesn't appear because 1/16 is too small to appear in oracle-4 pops.

if you explain my father's ethnicity, what do you say?

[ph2ter]

[1] "distance%=1.2688"


father_scaled


Macedonian,44.8
Greek,16.6
Greek_Trabzon,12.8
Roma,7.8
Abazin,5.8
Tatar_Siberian,5.4
Georgian_Jew,3.2
Moldavian,2.6
Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye,1

Macedonian 48% + Greek (Aegean and Turkish) 30% + Tatar 6.25% + Romani 6.25% + Abazin (Caucasian) 6.25% + Jew 3.1%

[karakartal]

[1] "distance%=1.2688"


father_scaled


Macedonian,44.8
Greek,16.6
Greek_Trabzon,12.8
Roma,7.8
Abazin,5.8
Tatar_Siberian,5.4
Georgian_Jew,3.2
Moldavian,2.6
Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye,1

Macedonian 48% + Greek (Aegean and Turkish) 30% + Tatar 6.25% + Romani 6.25% + Abazin (Caucasian) 6.25% + Jew 3.1%

i like it

[karakartal]

[1] "distance%=1.2688"


father_scaled


Macedonian,44.8
Greek,16.6
Greek_Trabzon,12.8
Roma,7.8
Abazin,5.8
Tatar_Siberian,5.4
Georgian_Jew,3.2
Moldavian,2.6
Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye,1

Macedonian 48% + Greek (Aegean and Turkish) 30% + Tatar 6.25% + Romani 6.25% + Abazin (Caucasian) 6.25% + Jew 3.1%

bro could you please make this for me? i want to know my maternal effect.

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TG_scaled,0.117238,0.108662,0.003017,-0.016473,0.004308,-0.011713,0.004935,0.002308,-0.008181,0.00492,-0.000487,0.002997,0.004311,0.000413,-0.009365,0.013657,0.02021,0,-0.001383,0.003877,-0.010606,0.000742,0.001602,-0.001446,0.001676

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
TG,0.0103,0.0107,0.0008,-0.0051,0.0014,-0.0042,0.0021,0.001,-0.004,0.0027,-0.0003,0.002,0.0029,0.0003,-0.0069,0.0103,0.0155,0,-0.0011,0.0031,-0.0085,0.0006,0.0013,-0.0012,0.0014

thanks

[ph2ter]

bro could you please make this for me? i want to know my maternal effect.

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
TG_scaled,0.117238,0.108662,0.003017,-0.016473,0.004308,-0.011713,0.004935,0.002308,-0.008181,0.00492,-0.000487,0.002997,0.004311,0.000413,-0.009365,0.013657,0.02021,0,-0.001383,0.003877,-0.010606,0.000742,0.001602,-0.001446,0.001676

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
TG,0.0103,0.0107,0.0008,-0.0051,0.0014,-0.0042,0.0021,0.001,-0.004,0.0027,-0.0003,0.002,0.0029,0.0003,-0.0069,0.0103,0.0155,0,-0.0011,0.0031,-0.0085,0.0006,0.0013,-0.0012,0.0014

thanks

In scaled model you get:
Turkish 40%
Italian 16%
Greek 17%
Bulgarian (Balkan) 20%
Caucasus 7%

[1] "distance%=1.7556"

TG_scaled

Turkish_Istanbul,18.8
Greek,16.6
Italian_Abruzzo,12.8
Turkish_Aydin,9.4
Macedonian,7.8
Moldavian,6.4
Turkish_Balikesir,5.2
Bulgarian,5
Turkish_Adana,4.8
Italian_Tuscan,3
Abazin,2.6
Azeri,2.4
Adygei,1.6
Turkish_Kayseri,1.6
Italian_Jew,0.8
Romanian,0.6
Greek_Crete,0.4
Greek_Central_Anatolia,0.2

In a model made for your father you get
[1] "distance%=1.8879"

TG_scaled

Greek,19
Turkish_Istanbul,15.4
Greek_Crete,9.8
Macedonian,9.8
Gagauz,9.4
Moldavian,5.6
Turkish_Adana,4.6
Turkish_Aydin,4.6
Bulgarian,3.2
Turkish_Balikesir,3.2
Karakalpak,1.4
Georgian_Jew,1.2
Ashkenazi_Jew,1
Karachay,1
Tatar_Kazan,1
Turkish_Kayseri,1
Roma,0.8
Adygei,0.6
Albanian,0.6
Armenian,0.6
Armenian_Hemsheni,0.6
Azeri,0.6
Romaniote_Jew,0.6
Tatar_Mishar,0.6
Turkmen,0.6
Abazin,0.4
Azeri_Dagestan,0.4
Greek_Trabzon,0.4
Romanian,0.4
Sephardic_Jew,0.4
Turkish_Trabzon,0.4
Cossack_Kuban,0.2
Georgian_Imer,0.2
Greek_Central_Anatolia,0.2
Kalmyk,0.2

[karakartal]

In scaled model you get:
Turkish 40%
Italian 16%
Greek 17%
Bulgarian (Balkan) 20%
Caucasus 7%

[1] "distance%=1.7556"

TG_scaled

Turkish_Istanbul,18.8
Greek,16.6
Italian_Abruzzo,12.8
Turkish_Aydin,9.4
Macedonian,7.8
Moldavian,6.4
Turkish_Balikesir,5.2
Bulgarian,5
Turkish_Adana,4.8
Italian_Tuscan,3
Abazin,2.6
Azeri,2.4
Adygei,1.6
Turkish_Kayseri,1.6
Italian_Jew,0.8
Romanian,0.6
Greek_Crete,0.4
Greek_Central_Anatolia,0.2

In a model made for your father you get
[1] "distance%=1.8879"

TG_scaled

Greek,19
Turkish_Istanbul,15.4
Greek_Crete,9.8
Macedonian,9.8
Gagauz,9.4
Moldavian,5.6
Turkish_Adana,4.6
Turkish_Aydin,4.6
Bulgarian,3.2
Turkish_Balikesir,3.2
Karakalpak,1.4
Georgian_Jew,1.2
Ashkenazi_Jew,1
Karachay,1
Tatar_Kazan,1
Turkish_Kayseri,1
Roma,0.8
Adygei,0.6
Albanian,0.6
Armenian,0.6
Armenian_Hemsheni,0.6
Azeri,0.6
Romaniote_Jew,0.6
Tatar_Mishar,0.6
Turkmen,0.6
Abazin,0.4
Azeri_Dagestan,0.4
Greek_Trabzon,0.4
Romanian,0.4
Sephardic_Jew,0.4
Turkish_Trabzon,0.4
Cossack_Kuban,0.2
Georgian_Imer,0.2
Greek_Central_Anatolia,0.2
Kalmyk,0.2

Thank you mate. I think my mostly anatolian side is coming from my maternal side.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Well i agree that his south asian on k12b and south indian on mdlpk23b is high for a balkan turk. Might indicate romani ancestry. But not that high to be concerned of. Keep in mind that even Romanians on mdlpk23b have south indian 6% - might be a lot of mixing of romanians with local gypsies (like hungarians mixed a lot with local jews). Its balkans afterwards.

Huh, didn't know. I've checked the Spreadsheet and you're right. Neither me nor my gf score any though, only South-Central Asian under the average.

EDIT: Kinda hard to really say if you do have Romani or not. Romanians can be identified if they have it by showing MENA + South Asian on their direct results. Unfortunately I haven't seen their GED Match results to see if indeed they also scored visible South Asian and Red Sea.