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andre
08-21-2019, 03:13 PM
1) the Scythian samples from Moldova, Hungary and Ukraine are true Scythians or they have thracian admix?

2)Why in the Iron age calculators are there no “slavs” ? They are a Kind of balto-scythians mixture?

My iron age ancestry (thanks ph2ter)

old IA:
[1] "distance%=3.8383"

Andrei_scaled

PANNONIAN,43.2
MACEDONIAN-THRACIAN,21.6
BALTIC,6.4
PANNONIAN-PONTIC,6
GREEK,4.8
ILLYRIAN,4.6
PONTIC-BALTIC,4.2
LEVANTINE,3.4
CELTIC-SOUTHEAST,3
ANATOLIAN,1.8
ALANIC,0.8
NORTHWESTERN-IRANIAN,0.2

experimental IA unscaled:
[1] "distance%=1.3021"

Andrei_unscaled

HUN_BA,36.2
Scythian_MDA,13.6
Scythian_HUN,10.6
RUS_Ingria_IA,8.4
Baltic_LVA_BA,7.6
Baltic_EST_BA,6.2
Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2,5.4
Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1,4.8
Baltic_LTU_BA,2
Scythian_UKR,2
Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA,1.6
Anatolia_IA_low_res,1
HRV_Early_IA,0.4
Baltic_EST_IA,0.2

Thracian
08-21-2019, 03:19 PM
Scythians from Moldova have significant amount of native Balkan blood. It comes most likely from Getae. Not sure about Scythians from Hungary and Ukraine.

andre
08-21-2019, 03:21 PM
Scythians from Moldova have significant amount of native Balkan blood. It comes most likely from Getae. Not sure about Scythians from Hungary and Ukraine.

so being genetically related to them is due to that amount of Balkan genes, so I don't really have Scythian ancestors?

Thracian
08-21-2019, 03:29 PM
so being genetically related to them is due to that amount of Balkan genes, so I don't really have Scythian ancestors?

It could be. On the other hand, you can be related with both of them. I don't know how can we separate it. Scythian_MDA have also Asian genes. You can try to model them using program ''R'' or you can use nMonte runner.

Vid Flumina
08-21-2019, 04:06 PM
scy300, scy305, scy192 and scy197 (see Moldova_IA cluster below) have a rather distinct and consistent genetic profile, mixed or not these could be the best proxy for actual Dacian ancestry:

https://i.imgur.com/60rTPEW.png